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Sony: PlayStation VR Pre-Orders Sold “Very Fast”

The Director of PSVR acknowledges the speed of sales

ShadowKnight2889d ago (Edited 2889d ago )

Just like the PS4

donthate2889d ago

To put in perspective, the Kinect was never sold out and became the fastest selling device.

PS VR didn't immediately sell out like console pre-orders, but eventually marked as sold out after a long time. My guess, it is to drive up demand, and people are snapping it up expecting a profit. I'm expecting these to flood the market come the holiday.

Goldby2889d ago

So 2 minutes with the first batch of amazon isnt immediate, or are you talking about the 2nd batch that sold out in less than a minute?

SavingPvt_Highon2889d ago

Sony already announced that if you didn't preorder the PSVR day 1 you're not guaranteed a headset at launch. There's phase 1 and phase 2 for preorders. There is going to be a huge shortage during the holiday in 2016, and if you wern't apart of day 1 phase 1, you might have trouble getting one.

donthate2889d ago

Goldby:

There were plenty other retailers that have plenty stock of PS VR for weeks afterwards. Amazon is the only one that sold out, and the only one that tried to generate interest by claiming out of stock, then re-stock, mind you.

Also, out of stock means no more pre-orders..... Kinect took pre-orders the entire time as a point of reference. So the stock might be limited, but that just means lowered sale. Oculus Rift have been selling out at Best Buy within minutes too online. People are also lining up outside stores.

Germany72889d ago

Look at this troll again, he is really concerned about everything on PS, lol.

We are really excited to play amazing exclusives made by Sony Studios on PSVR, if you are so satisfied with your facebook device, stick with the articles for it then.
You should be concerned about Xbox lack of exclusives.

rainslacker2889d ago

Is that why all OR is also selling out or unable to fill pre-orders?

NotoriousWhiz2889d ago

They could pull an Nintendo and only provide a handful to each store at a time, like they did with the Wii

donthate2888d ago (Edited 2888d ago )

Rain:

Rift/Vive actually has production issues as they are ramping up. Sony delayed PS VR to increase production..... but yeah, making it look like it isn't available certainly helps to sell it more. Something that appears scarce tend to get people excited. Research in marketing has shown that people fear more of loosing something they don't have, as opposed to something they already have.

Unspoken2888d ago

They made a limited quantity to build up hype. Of course there wouldn't be enough to go around on such a product. Now we will see then eBay for triple the price just like Oculus.

That's worrisome for VR as Sony tries to spin this into high demand. Their marketing can be so shady.

G20WLY2888d ago

^@Unspoken, do you have any proof for the drivel you just spouted? Or are we to rely on your immaculate (lmfao!) track record here on N4G? Perhaps provide a link to a credible source? Just a suggestion! ;^|

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Rookie_Monster2889d ago

Yup...Lucky I was smart enough to get mine when it was available for Pre order. http://i1376.photobucket.co...

Now I will get it Day One!

MrSugarholic2889d ago

lol, trying so hard to convince ppl.

Rookie_Monster2889d ago

Trying with $400 for PSVR added to my $400 PS4 to convince Prople of what exactly? :o

Please explain.

GrubsterBeater2889d ago

@Sugarholic

Did you see what he did there in his first and then second comment. So sly, but transparent, Rookie...

Germany72889d ago

He doesn't have any friends, lol.

Aquietguy2889d ago

Lucky you. I'm hoping there's a black Friday deal. I was between this and the NX for a Christmas present for my kids. Nintendo answered that.

GrubsterBeater2889d ago (Edited 2889d ago )

Sure you are, Rookie.

We allll believe you./s

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kenwonobi2889d ago

This isn't surprising. It's the most affordable entry into top of the line modern virtual reality. Without any sacrifice to offset the price.

donthate2889d ago

lower resolution? lower frame rate? reprojection?

reduced graphical detail?

That is what I call sacrifice to offset the price on PS VR....

jb2272889d ago

Those are hardware restrictions on the console end, not necessarily device restrictions. From what I understand PSVR has far & away the best and most ergonomic comfortable build and a great set of lenses. Not sure on the resolution of the headset itself, I seem to recall it being a bit lesser than Oculus but only slightly so.

In terms of the unit itself, there aren't many sacrifices made. Sacrifices come down to the power of the PS4 vs. the power of the PC, which has always been the case for consoles across the board since the beginning of gaming, which makes it kind of a given.

dp2774072889d ago

Must be why every one who uses it hates it /s

Aenea2889d ago

Since when does a lower resolution and lower framerate matter to you Xbox fans? :p

Seriously though, the difference between 1200p and 1080p isn't all that big. Frame rate isn't actually because of the PSVR headset, neither is reprojection. Also PSVR can display 120 fps, the Rift can only do 90. PSVR supports reprojection so even games with 45-60 fps can look and feel good...

dennigo2889d ago

@dp277407
lol almost no one hates it, in fact it's very much loved.

I myself tried both the oculus cv1 and the psvr, and the difference was minimal.
screen on psvr was better, yes resolution is lower but the screen door is way more obvious on oculus. also good luck trying to fit your glasses in oculus, mine were a problem, another fun fact, i playd a 7 minute demo on ps vr and only 4 minutes on oculus. when i got out of the oculus my face was sweaty and the lenses got damp cuz there is no air circulation whatsoever, not so with ps vr.

I cannot speak for VIVE cuz i haven't really tried it yet at least not the consumer version

donthate2889d ago

jb227:

Kenwonobi suggested that there was no sacrifice to offset the price, but we already know at a minimum the headset itself has a lower resolution screen which IS the hardware on the headset not to mention the lenses as well. Those are the most expensive parts of the headset, and is where the sacrifices are going to be made. There also other sacrifices on the console side, but those are immediate sacrifices to the headset to hit a price.

I'm not here to discuss if it is good or not, because the report have been positive, but expectations have also been wisely lowered.

Aenea:

That's just a fanboy argument to point at one group versus another. Reality is that on VR the resolution matter a lot due to the screen door effect and is why Oculus/HTC both went with a higher quality and resolution screen. They don't up the price for no reason.

Reprojection cannot do translational movement, and it is not a solution, but a patch to mitigate (not fix) a deficiency. In fact, it introduces artifacts into the image. A higher frame rate in this case is actually not a benefit, as no games will have 120fps of significance. It's just a number that some fanboys can latch onto and use as an argument with no basis in quality.

dp2774072889d ago

I cant wait to get mine, I had to get the 599 version but I don't mind.

Aenea2888d ago

"That's just a fanboy argument to point at one group versus another."

LOL, indeed, donthate, indeed :p

The thing is though, since the PSVR uses an RGB screen the pixels are less noticeable and the screen door effect is less...

But keep on believing it's way, way worse!

donthate2888d ago

Aenea:

Keep drinking that cool aid. There is a reason why two out of three companies major VR companies went with higher resolution display at a lower refresh rate, at a higher cost.

Whereas the one company telling you theirs is better cost less to manufacture, and sells for a lower price. Does that add up to a sane and sensible person?

If you are not sane, sensible, and a fanatic, you might believe otherwise. I recommend you try them before drinking the cool aid.

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Aenea2889d ago

At least the current PS4 is capable of using a VR headset..........

Rookie_Monster2889d ago (Edited 2889d ago )

@Aenea
"At least the current PS4 is capable of using a VR headset.........."

So is my steam app and all my steam games able to run on my i5 ultrabook laptop. Doesn't mean it is any good.

But I'll will give it a test with my PS4 and Neo and will post my findings of its performances on both Sony platform later on this year.

Aenea2888d ago

@Rookie
Wow, on the same page you went from PlayStation positive to defending Xbox, nicely done Rookie! A record am sure!

dp2774072887d ago

@rookie sure I haven't tried it but people who have seem to be impressed and very positive. I think we're good.

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Wallstreet372889d ago

I also preordered the bundle as soon as it was available for preorder in amazon, then 10 min later it was gone.

lawgone2889d ago

Hope all these people are planning on getting the Neo since it sounds like the VR will be unpleasant without it.

Zer0Flinch2889d ago

Omg stfu. 1) Neo not even confirmed 2) the quote you're likely pulling from specifically stated "was" hard to play meaning it's a non issue.
People hating because they're either too broke to get one or too lazy to get a pre-order. You're as bad as IGN with their constant rumors and shitty speculation.

lawgone2833d ago

You kids are hilarious. I made a very benign statement and you're getting your panties in a bunch b/c you lub your console so much. Calm down.

Perjoss2889d ago

I really doubt they would put up preorders for the psvr if it didn't run well on the current ps4.

DashArrivals2889d ago

Where in the hell did you hear that? It's completely false and just a flat out LIE.

Wallstreet372889d ago

Actually tons of previews from professionaks, devs, gamers from gaf all said psvr worked great on vanilla ps4. To the point they thought the box on psvr was adding power and had a cpu lol

Stop spreading lies, nonsense, etc since ppl have already had gaming time with psvr unlike u know other vr solutions :)

donthate2889d ago

Clearly only the idiots though the box added power. If you are a professional developer, you know that isn't possible due to a lot of practicality. Wouldn't take those comments seriously.

That said, yeah people have reported good results with PS VR assuming you have lowered expectations. For instance, even Rift/Vive has screendoor effect. It has been minimized, but it is there. PS VR is worse, but passable and expected due to the lower resolution screen.

stuna12889d ago

To certain people 1 small developers opinion can nagate the opinion of many big, medium and small developers! Only on N4G.

Wallstreet372889d ago

Donthate...

Psvr actually handles screen door effect better, in that scenario it has an advantage over rift/vive due to his true rgb set up.

Wallstreet372889d ago (Edited 2889d ago )

Actually psvr handles screen door effect better than vive/rift due to its true rgb screen set up, so in this instance its an advantage.

As for ppl having positive previews due to going in with low expectaruons that is actually half true. Ppl went in expecting psvr to not be as good as it ended up being with previewers actually in awe of how good it held up to pc and saying that some games were even better than what they saw on the pc vr side. Rigs being one of them and one of the hottest vr games coming out if e3 last year.

The comparison can be compared to how ps3 was way weaker than a mid to high end rig yet consoles pumped out some if the best games last gen and graphical show pieces such as killzone 2, uncharted series, gt, gow3, tlou etc..... Comparing psvr and saying ppl need to go in with low expectations is bs. Yes it will have disadvantages because its fixed hardware but itll also have advantages tht make up for it such as psvr sony ips that will shine. Rigs is already a gd sign of things to come.

Aenea2889d ago

@donthate
What I've heard though from people who used it is that the PSVR is the headset with the least screen door effect. And again, the screen isn't that much lower in resolution...

amiga-man2889d ago (Edited 2889d ago )

donthate stop talking about stuff you have no idea about, Sony have years of experience in display technology, their diplay is actually much better for VR and their lenses have advantages too.

http://wccftech.com/sony-de...

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto1d 9h ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 3h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb198114h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein13h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 7h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle18h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188115h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio15h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7710h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga17h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218316h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga15h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan11h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit4h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7210h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10120h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac19h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10118h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic16h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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An Update on This Year’s BlizzCon and Blizzard’s 2024 Live Events

Blizzard writes: "After careful consideration over the last year, we at Blizzard have made the decision not to hold BlizzCon in 2024. This decision was not made lightly as BlizzCon remains a very special event for all of us, and we know many of you look forward to it. While we’re approaching this year differently and as we have explored different event formats in the past, rest assured that we are just as excited as ever to bring BlizzCon back in future years."

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PRIMORDUS1d 4h ago

How about you not hold Blizzcon anymore period. You fucking POS company. I really hope Blizzard would just die.