October saw Xbox One at the top of console sales

IGN has reported that Xbox One has won NPD for October

According to a statement from Microsoft, the Xbox One saw 81 percent growth compared to October 2014. Staying on message, it said "the strength of the greatest games lineup in Xbox history," including October's top-selling game Halo 5: Guardians, helped drive "record Xbox Live" usage for the month, as well as put the console above its competitors.

[Gazondaily]

Don't ever underestimate the power of Halo.

Wasn't much competition in October to be fair.

The holiday season's games are strongly in favour of the Xbox One, although Sony's third party deals will let em secure victory in November and December.

Hey didn't the PS4 have a price drop?

[Foehammer]

That's what's called a SYSTEM SELLER

Even a price drop from the competition couldn't stop Halo 5

[Gazondaily]

Indeed. Proper system seller. Due to Halo, Xbox Won.

[sammarshall102]

Yes, it shows that Halo is still a huge franchise unlike what some people were trying to claim

Good job Microsoft and 343

Back to some Halo 5 warzone :)

[Letthewookiewin]

Really? Halo sold 305k X1s and all of a sudden it's dominating. Congrats MS. You barely won on a Halo month. The tides sure are turning. I truly thought MS's console sales were going to explode. This is a win but.. Dam.

[ger2396]

It shouldn't come at no surprise, it's Microsoft's flagship title after all. The question is, what other franchise can help xbox move as many consoles? Gears possibly?

[TKCMuzzer]

er, system seller in the US maybe but it failed to outsell it's rival system in the other important region, the rest of the world.

[skratchy]

You guys are looking at Uncharted's SECOND week. First week, it was number one. 540,000 units or something.

[Rookie_Monster]

@skratchy
"You guys are looking at Uncharted's SECOND week. First week, it was number one. 540,000 units or something."

Not sure if serious. The NPD is for the entire accumulated total for an entire month. The fact that uncharted has 2 weeks to sell in October and came up selling less than Yoshi's Woolly World, a Wii U exclusive that came out on the same day as Uncharted HD, is not looking too good on Sony's part IMO.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Congrats to MS.

@Chance There's no need to troll like that and show immaturity by bringin PS4 into this like that, just sayin its pretty immature.

But again Congrats to MS, X1 and Halo 5.

[nix]

Well.. We all learnt one thing. Not to trust Amazon ranking seriously.

[NewMonday]

according to NeoGAF retail insiders the "win" is as small as 25k

just one week of PS4 sales in Japan alone are enough to wipe that out.

also Halo didn't manage 1 million, this much lower than even ODST, this is a massive %70 drop in franchise sales

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[UltraNova]

Some of you guys remind me of small time football teams that lose 11 matches out 12 each season but act like they've won the fricking championship with that ONE win...I mean really?.

Is it that hard to just be happy without resorting in fanboyish/trolling behavior, huh Dothnate and Lechance?

If it was a world wide win it could mean something but its NA only, common guys lets raise the level a bit higher here.

Anw congrats to MS, lets hope they bring the heat to Sony.

[Unspoken]

Wow, XB beat PS4?!?! With all the nay sayers?!? That is AMAZING! And with Halo to top it off. Even with a price drop of the PS4.

[TripleCs]

@UltraNova

Well said.

[Kribwalker]

@ newmonday

Not counted in those "numbers" is the digital sales of the game that me and everyone else that I know and more bought the game purchased, as well, all of the bundles with digital halo in them, and yet it still finished as the number one game of the month in 4 days. Keep downplaying all you want, Halo is alive and well

[Crimzon]

I hope this inspires Sony to actually release games during the holiday season from now on. It sucks to have nothing to play at this time of year because Sony only wants to give us games in Spring. It's stupid and Microsoft have proven that hey, actually putting out some big exclusive games during the holiday season works and a lot of people buy them.

Stop holding back the games Sony. I think all of us who bought your console and supported you deserve to have some actual games to play. The whole reason I switched from 360 to PS3 last gen was because PS3 actually got games while the 360 relied on multiplats, and it's sad to see the roles reversed this time.

[Gazondaily]

@New

"according to NeoGAF retail insiders the "win" is as small as 25k

just one week of PS4 sales in Japan alone are enough to wipe that out. "

Lol wtf kinda logic is that? We're talking US sales and you're bringing in Japan??

Yes the margin is small but the PS4 sold less you know that right? And with a price drop that people on here thought would decimate the competition. I'm looking at older threads now and the comments are absolutely hilarious but I'll be classy and avoid posting links for now ;)

Anyway, I'm just glad there's at least some competition in one territory. It's good for the industry as the US is a key battleground (even though its not all great as MS are struggling to get a win in what was their own home territory at one point).

But yes, I don't expect Xbox to win any of the other months. But dat Halo affect...

[kickerz]

I think a lot of you guys are forgetting that halo 5 only came out 27th October , that's 3 days 0_o and it had such a great effect. Look forward to seeing November results. Not that sales makes much difference to how awesome Halo is

[NewMonday]

@Kribwalker

digital is nothing new, mostly 20%of sales, even with that franchise decline is over 50%

@Septic
for Sony and MS the fight is for market share, October didn't move the needle, the PS4 price drop is what made the sales margin for X1 so small and negligible. North America is supposed to be the market where MS make up the sales gap and it's clear now that is not happening, it's over and settled now.

and remember this comment you made? "Also, take it from me, as an actual Halo fan, people will jump on this bandwagon", 70% fall in franchise sales in the XB home market proves you wrong.

[Tobsesan]

@NewMonday

"Some dude on NEOGAF told me its like blablabla"

So Halo 5 Sold 1 Million and made 400 MILLION revenue? Wow that has to be one hell of a price for a game.

Also to compare that with the "real life":

13 People in my Friends List got COD BO3
12 People got Fallout 4
42 People got Halo 5

[JMyers]

@Tobsesan

You do know that the $400 million in revenue included bundles, merch and micro transactions yes? That it is not individual game sales at retail? The bundle alone was $400.

[Gazondaily]

@NewMonday

Regurgitate NeoGaf rhetoric all you want but the fact is, Halo 5 allowed the Xbox One to beat the PS4 despite the latter console's price cut which many proclaimed would cause Sony to dominate in sales.

Yes Halo's sales as a whole have declined after over a decade of phenomenal sales and increased competition but all those who so utterly and desperately tried and continue to downplay its importance or quality should be quiet and recognise its continued importance and the impact it made. For some semblance of humility.

At the end of the day, its only one month and Sony will be back to dominating the charts again after this but credit should be given where its due; not mindlessly following a rhetoric to fulfill a tired agenda.

[NewMonday]

@Septic

"NeoGaf rhetoric"? lol

dude they are numbers, it's math

last year X1 outsold PS4 in NA by about 1 million in the holidays, MS need to repeat that every year, they clearly loaded their bases for this big season and stayed without exclusives the rest of the year hoping to bank it now, but it's not working out. all Sony need to do is keep the margin as small as possible and their plan is working perfectly.

MS needs that big margin but it's not getting it, this will have big ramifications on the XBox division.

"Yes Halo's sales as a whole have declined after over a decade"

nop! Halo sales decline after Bungie left and the bulk of Halo fans don't have faith in 343, over protective fans proved detrimental to the franchise, repeatedly excusing the shortcomings, congrats! the 70% fall in Halo gamers is partly their responsibility.

CoD sales declined but it was just 5-10% over 2 years, not a big massive 70% like Halo, and CoD did manage to rise again in sales this year, truth is gamers find things seriously wrong with the Halo franchise.

[andibandit]

@NewMonday

I dont know where you got 20% from, one might fear you've taken it from this article from 2009:
http://www.statista.com/sta...

But this more up to date article, altho it combines numbers, gives us an idea that in todays world it is higher
http://www.playstationlifes...

Your 70% number dosn't give much insight without knowing the installbase, at the time of the other Halo releases.

Also regarding CoD, please look at these number:
http://www.statisticbrain.c...

Please tell me where you're seeing a 5-10% decrease.

[Gazondaily]

@NewMonday

"nop! Halo sales decline after Bungie left and the bulk of Halo fans don't have faith in 343,"

Yet, Halo 4 surpassed Halo 3's sales and became the top selling MS game of all time for them?

"over protective fans proved detrimental to the franchise, repeatedly excusing the shortcomings"

No, its REAL fans who proposed changes. Who made 343 change their approach to the MP after Halo 4?

You for instance, are so fascinated by Halo 5's shortcomings in the SP area (and imo are completely disingenuous- not for one moment do I take your stance on it seriously, sorry) but its us die-hard fans who are the biggest critics of the game.

Halo 5 is a love letter to many Halo fans but with a campaign that falls short.

But Halo 5 is heralded by MANY as the best MP component since Halo 2 or even ever. That's a massive feat which a proper objective fan would recognise.

" truth is gamers find things seriously wrong with the Halo franchise."

Gamers find something so wrong with it that they single handedly helped propel the Xbox to victory over the price-dropped PS4?

The truth is, Halo FANS know Halo and whilst it may not be as relevant as it was back in the day thanks to the likes of Call of Duty, it still represents one of the best exclusive FPS' out there that remains largely untouched, after two gaming generations.

Halo will ALWAYS be a bittern thorn on the side of haters and that's understandable- this NPD is proof and an example of one way it does that. Heck, the comment section here is a microcosm of that.

[WelkinCole]

@Septic.

Why are you guys trying so hard to make a big deal out of Halo 5 sales?.

When MGS4 came out it pushed the PS3 to at least 500,000 sales if I remember correctly.

For MS biggest franchise these are not a very good results.

[bouzebbal]

Good to see xbox fanboys having a national victory day once a year.
Top comment is just.... smh
The desperate happiness and will to troll in the post is over the roof. fanboy reaction i guess.

@New

"according to NeoGAF retail insiders the "win" is as small as 25k

just one week of PS4 sales in Japan alone are enough to wipe that out. "

Lol wtf kinda logic is that? We're talking US sales and you're bringing in Japan??

maybe because you love numbers? so if we follow you we should have sales difference by shop? cause a shop sold more PS4s than x1?
xbox topped also october npd last year if i remember correct which is a good thing, but you fanboys make it much worse by reacting like 3 year olds.

[NewMonday]

@andibandit

dude read your links before posting, missing 2012, 2014, try again and come back to me.

oh! and did you read your other link about digital sales
"the data takes into account mobile games" (facepalm.gif)

[Gazondaily]

@abzdine

"The desperate happiness and will to troll in the post is over the roof. fanboy reaction i guess. "

If it weren't for the word happiness, I thought you were talking about yourself?

"maybe because you love numbers? so if we follow you we should have sales difference by shop?"

I love numbers? Do you even understand the point I was making? We are repeatedly told that NPD= the world. But now Japanese performance comes into it?

Why are you and your ilk ignoring Sony's performance in the very same month lmao

"but you fanboys make it much worse by reacting like 3 year olds."

You really are blind to your own behaviour. Its staggering.

@Welkin

"Why are you guys trying so hard to make a big deal out of Halo 5 sales?. "

Its not that big a deal but it helped propel the Xbox to victory, albeit a minor one and this is surprising because Sony's price drop of the PS4 led many to believe and declare them the victors.

Its not that big a deal but obviously some haters are hurting tis all.

[Kribwalker]

Newmonday downplaying the digital age again and once again reporting "numbers" from a "source". How many of these copies are in the bundles? Because the $400 million made by MS in the week of halo launch, if it was only console bundles that they sold and nothing else would be 888,000. Now, think about that. Let's get a more realistic number and say 150,000 consoles. That would be $67.5 million. Which would leave about 4.75 million copies of the game @ $70 each. Which we know didn't happen.
Now count in req packs, that most of them can be bought by in game currency so say 2 million req packs were bought at like $10 each (which would be a very generous number) that would only drop the game sales total by 285,000 and leave us at 4.5million copies sold.
And still, we know it did not sell 4.5 million copies plus 150,000 custom consoles. So if they sold 2 million copies of the game digital and physical, and $20million in req packs(which is very generous) they would have sold 577,000 custom consoles, leaving an unaccounted 577,000 copies of the game plus the regular digital copies of the game that are also unaccounted for.
No matter what, unless people spent $100 million on req packs in the first week and bought 300,000 consoles, that would leave a measily 2.357 million copies of the game physical and digital.
No matter how you slice it New Monday, these "numbers" you keep reporting do not add up. $400 million in halo consoles req packs and copies of the game push it well over a million units so stop posting that crap from a unverified source

[Tobsesan]

@NewMonday

Just do the Math...

They sold 303k Consoles in October
Even if EVERY console would have been the Limited one it would look like this:

303kx400$= 121,2 million So what happend to the rest? Oh ye lemme guess all is merchandise right?

Just assume the half of what is left is game sales:
400m-121,2m/2 = 139,4m/60$= 2,32 Million Games sold in the first week. The other 139,4 million cash goes to limited edition controller and games (which is way too high).

[Major_Glitch]

Lol.
"Sales don't matter."
"Sales don't matter."
"Sales don't matter."
NPD shows Xbox won a month in North America.
"Sales MATTER!"

So...I've noticed the Xbox crowd is raising heck. What happened? *reads article* Oh...they took October with the "Halo Effect". Nice one guys. Good win. I wonder how many consoles it moved... * reads http://n4g.com/news/1821747... * Oh. Is that all? Shouldn't that number be higher?

[NewMonday]

@Kribwalker & @Tobsesan

or MS could just give out the numbers

retail sources say less than 1 million Halo5 sold including bundles, you trying hard with magic math to pump it up over 2 million proves it's a shockingly very low number and that the Halo franchise is severely damaged.

@Septic

"I love numbers? Do you even understand the point I was making? We are repeatedly told that NPD= the world. But now Japanese performance comes into it?"

first thing first those who only care about NPD only are the Xbox guys, everybody knows that, kind of audacious that you try to spin that around.

second NPD is regional market report, it is insignificant without factoring in total worldwide market share, market share is the biggest foundation for console platform successes.

so it is actually more informative to talk about how NPD relates to the worldwide console market shape than randomly posting a "yay! win" that totally misses the point of NPD reports.

those who pay for NPD data are not looking for "win" or top 10 placement, they are looking for sales trends and unit volume.

[reaperofsouls]

Winning by a small margin for One month, in one country, with it's biggest and most anticipated franchise being released, let's not get carried away foehammer

[TheCommentator]

Halo 5 put XB1 on top with just a few days of sales in October. Let's see what XB1/Halo 5 does for November...

[Zepherite]

I would be really interested to know why so many people are disagreeing with you.

Unless someone can explain otherwise you seem to have drawn a logical conclusion.

[GamingIVfun]

I didn't see any thing that said that PS4 sales were down year over year in the article. Consoles sales were up by 3%, last gen was down by 66% but were offset by next gen sales which were up 12%.

[XanderZane]

I thought gamers were saying that Halo 5 didn't sell that well. It was only out in October for 5 days though. The PS4 price cut started before that. I wonder how many Halo 5 bundles were sold? I wonder how many will be sold in Nov? Didn't Amazon have the PS4 ahead of the XBox One for most of October? I wonder how well those Tomb Raider bundles will sell in November. In any case, well done Microsoft. Will they two peat next month? We'll see.

[HaydenJameSmith]

Congrats to MS and 343i on a great launch for Halo...

I expect both MS and Sony to do very well during Black Friday with crazy deals (Tomb Raider and Halo 5 should continue to help Xbox One through November).

[BitbyDeath]

Yikes, Xbox only sold 304K and PS4 even lower, everyone holding out for Black Friday over there?

[Gazondaily]

I think so. Expect a massive surge due to Black Friday bundurus.

[Masterchief_thegoat]

this black friday, will break last year

[Double_O_Revan]

Both consoles will be $300 on black friday. Everyone's holding out.

[Chevalier]

Destiny move 550,000+ PS4's in September last year in the U.S. alone and over 1 million worldwide, so is moving 300,000 for such a big franchise that great really? Still good numbers overall, but, I think that Black Friday and November with all the new bundles will certainly be interesting.

[gangsta_red]

"Wasn't much competition in October to be fair."

To be fair it wasn't needed. It is interesting to see this especially with the supposed speculations from a lot of people that the game flopped.

Congratulations to MS and 343i, let's hope they take the criticisms and apply it to the next iteration.

[HaydenJameSmith]

Yeah, everyone was saying MS were deceiving us by only showing revenue from Halo 5 launch but now we've learned it was the best selling game of the month with only 4 days to garner that lead. Pretty Impressive. Again congrats to MS and 343i.

[gangsta_red]

@Clarence
So Halo is still the top selling title for that month, exactly what would the numbers prove?

And if M$ releases the numbers...then what?

[HaydenJameSmith]

@Clarence
Oh ya, your right they must be hiding something...

It's not like they made $400 million at the launch of Halo 5. Right ? Oh wait...

And seeing as your saying it didn't sell as much as previous Halo's...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

"Halo 4 grossed US$220 million on its launch day and $300 million in its opening week. The gross was a new record for the franchise,[173] surpassing Halo: Reach‍ '​s $200 million first-day gross."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"This afternoon Microsoft said Halo 5 was the fastest-selling Xbox One exclusive game to-date, with more than $400m in global sales of Halo 5 games and hardware a week after launch."

So it made a $100m than both Reach and Halo 4 (both of which had much bigger install bases) in there opening week. So either way it's bringing in a lot of income for MS.

[yarbie1000]

'Wasn't much competition'

Lot of people seemed to think Uncharted was competition

And I heard Halo was dead.

[Gazondaily]

Yeah but that was clearly a load of bull.

Even the PS4 price drop, which people were proclaiming was gonna cause total utter domination didn't work. Heck, I thought it would have given Sony the lead this month but hey, Halo is something else.

[Masterchief_thegoat]

I thought the collection was going be at least top 5. but it got beat by yoshi

[BlackTar187]

I read the sales was a difference of 5k between the systems

[Majin-vegeta]

Halo may not be dead.But the silence on how much it sold.Tells something it looks like it didn't do as good as it was warranted.

[Ravenor]

It's a remaster of the Uncharted games without any Multiplayer. I happily picked up The Last of US remaster, but passed on the Uncharted collection without a second thought. For me personally (You may feel different and that's totally cool) one trek through each Uncharted was enough for me.

[generic-user-name]

Maybe those people were thinking in global terms rather than in just MS's home turf.

[FriedGoat]

No multiplayer was a dealbreaker for me on the Uncharted Collection, Shot themselves in the foot selling some incomplete nonsense.

[DarXyde]

I don't think anyone is surprised about Xbox One taking October in North America.

...but I'm also not surprised to see Microsoft having something to say when they've taken a month.

Business as usual. Just keep the games coming all around.

[DarXyde]

User1049,

Your comprehension of my statement leaves a bit to be desired.

At what point do I "complain"? I completely expected Microsoft to sell the most units for October. I'm not upset about that at all. Microsoft is known for doing well in North America during this time of year. I also mentioned Microsoft having something to say because, the vast majority of the time since this generation started, Microsoft has been very quiet. That's not complaining. It's making an honest observation and I'm sorry you don't get that. If you want me to play this game, then fine... They even mentioned sales are up 81% over last year. They're talking sales subtly. Didn't they mention less than a month ago that they would no longer be focusing on sales and will be looking at Xbox live memberships?

It's a very pronounced shift in talking points in recent months. Simple as that.

[DarXyde]

My point was that, going into the holiday season, they are certainly more vocal than they are any other time of the year which is also when Xbox One actually bests the competition in North America.

When I said I'm just making an observation, I meant particularly that: I'm making an observation.

No, I'm not surprised to see Microsoft come out ahead and no, I'm not surprised Microsoft releasing a statement regarding sales, however subtle it might come across. Regardless, all it means is Sony can still improve their footing in the US and Microsoft will want to maintain their newly found momentum. It's only going to propagate and create incentive for the platform holders to get serious. Once more, business as usual.

Now about this...

"Where do you see them doing anything other than the above mentioned things, in their statement?"

It's pretty obvious that Microsoft's statement placed greater emphasis on the fact that they're up 81% YOY and it's thanks to 'the greatest lineup in Xbox history'. The part of their statement regarding Xbox Live engagement very obviously took a backseat to the fact that they're up since last year.

How would I know this? They gave specific numbers for sales and limited their online engagement to the statement "record Xbox Live [usage]". You tell me which one they obviously want to emphasize: (a) "Xbox One saw 81 percent growth compared to October 2014" OR (b) Halo 5: Guardians, helped drive "record Xbox Live" usage for the month, as well as put the console above its competitors"

One is a quantitative statistic. The other is a fairly ambiguous statement that doesn't address the magnitude of improvement.

It's pretty obvious what they're treating as the primary metric. Again though, it really doesn't matter' I'm just trying to make sure I'm clear here. It's an observation and we can leave it at that.

[Death]

@DarX,

I was under the impression Sony and Microsoft release a statement every month when the numbers are released. Maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention, but I thought that was a standard business practice.

This is August of last year, http://www.craveonline.com/...
"As usual, Sony and Microsoft responded with statements about hardware."

[DarXyde]

Death,

That's the general and expected trend, but overall, they've been pretty quiet since, say, this year began. As the sales gap grew globally, Microsoft hasn't been very forthcoming. They did phenomenally last winter and we heard a lot from them. Following that when sales returned to the more expected trends, we don't really hear much at all from them regarding sales. We often hear from them when they have strong sales or something to spin. For example, they mentioned that, although PS4 outsold Xbox One in June, Xbox One was the most bought console during the E3 period. In the article you linked, they're talking about sales doubling (a plus for Microsoft), but in a very truncated window so it's highly conditional there where they were looking at the last week of the month following Madden's launch.

You're right in that, usually, we get the statements regarding sales at the end of the months. In Microsoft's case, it's a bit finicky and selective. Not saying they're lying, but it's a bit of an unusual way to portray relative success. We don't really hear from them regarding sales much anymore unless there's some significant occurrence. In this case, Halo 5 launched and they beat last year's record, made more significant by the fact that they have a great offering this holiday. This is a great time to talk about sales, but it's also their primary metric here when they mentioned, going forward, it wouldn't be--that the primary focus would be on Xbox Live membership. It was treated as more of a passing breath here.

Microsoft will definitely talk up sales when they can. This is one such occasion where I believe it's not bad to do so. It's when it involves distorting things that I find a little underhanded, particularly toward investors.

Again though, I can't say I'm surprised they took the opportunity to do so. I don't even blame them. I just think they changed their tone.

[christocolus]

Nice. Halo 5 is AMAZING......:)

Congrats MS/343i. That Halo5 mp is so much fun. well done

[HaydenJameSmith]

Can't wait for Big Team next week ;]

Halo 5 MP is the bomb...

[-Foxtrot]

Now let's wait and see if MS go against their word and talk about sales

[vikingland1]

I agree, it's an interesting thought. I would think even though it's just one month that they would say something.

[showtimefolks]

Congrats to ms but only outsold ps4 by 3000. Ps4 won september and even than it outsold Xbox one by few thousand

Are people just waiting for black Friday?

My prediction for black Friday

Ps4 will sell 1.4 million
Xbox one 1.2 million

Congrats to Sony for winning world wide. Won every month world wide since launch

[FoxyGotGame]

Congrats to MS for barely scraping through even with Halo 5 launch....

So now SALES MATTER to the Xbox One fans? ...The hypocrisy in the comments is super embarrassing. Flip Flopping 180's LMAO.. /

[lastking95]

Lol you people are something else xD why just why? Is it that serious to you? Sales aren't a big deal, just refreshing to see halo alive and well and ms has my congrats just like sony, if that's flip flopping than guilty as charged

If you guys haven't picked up a ps4 or Xbox one this holiday is the time to do it.

[GamingIVfun]

My post above yours was marked as trolling when I said basically the same thing you said and other bellow has said.

Would like to know what part was trolling.

I agree with every one who has pointed out the small win that Microsoft had in October and have given their thoughts on it.

As for Halo 5 I bought and gave my opinion. That's not trolling.

Seems more like censorship.

[nowitzki2004]

Congrats to MS.

Funny to see people bragging now, but when PS4 wins 10 or 11 months of the year then those months dont matter smh.

[Malice-Flare]

some details, if true...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[PS4] 275k
[XB1] 303k
[WiU] 65k

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Halo 5: Guardians sold 935k physical units including bundles...

[Spid3r6]

NeoGaff is your God so we do have problems with that!

[UKmilitia]

thought MS wasnt counting sales?

but it only outsold by about 30k for what many would say is MS biggest game???

on another front one of those sales is mine as i bought one end of last month.

[strike101]

How many units did Xbox and PS4 sold last month ?

[FernDiggidy]

Why is this website so anti Xbox...any shred of good news from the xbox just yields hate? How come? Both consoles are great in their own right.

Congrats 343i!!!

[ARESWARLORD]

a good comment because it's insanely true

[thricetold]

Where were you last gen when it was the exact opposite? Not only that ms fans were even worse. This is the bed they made and it's only going to get worse as sony starts releasing their heavy hitters and ms starts to run out of steam like the last two gens have proven they do. Just wait for it.

[saywat247]

lmfao the fact these xbone fanboys ruled my original comment as trolling shows they don't want to accept their losses and move on

[ARESWARLORD]

How old are you man

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed at TKC- More PS4's still sold world wide.

Kept telling people that Halo 5 likely wasn't going to be enough to stop PS4 sales. As....no Halo has ever won MS any gen...ever.

yet "system seller"? lol, sure. It moved 300k, the worst Halo to release in terms of sales in history. Can't spin facts buds, its depressing to see many try to.

Dark times for XONE fans I guess, Halo series just showing its age and COD is taking it over as it has been for the last couple years.

[Eonjay]

Congrats to Microsoft on the October win!

[MasterCornholio]

Yep same thing here.

Congrats Microsoft.

[PudgeyBurrito]

In North America

[killer_goat]

I'm really not sure on why people are disagreeing with you.

[PudgeyBurrito]

It's because it doesn't fit in to there narrative or they don't know that NPD statistics are only North American which they can google quick to find out.

They want to believe that it outsold world wide but those numbers are not out yet. But if you read any article on this site right now they will skip the North American part to make you believe they outsold PS4 world wide. Facts don't bod well here unfortunately.

[Ult iMate]

According to GAF it's
ps4 - 297
xbone - 168
worldwide in october.

[bf000777966]

although they should give up all hope to out-sell the PS4 globally but wining the NA along in October is very impressive.

[killer_goat]

But ms didn't outsell Sony in total in America. Just for one month. There is still quite a gap in sale's there. Honestly not surprised with halo. Didn't really enjoy it myself. The rest of the year will be interesting. But I reckon Sony will take it. What else has ms got? Honest question.

[joeorc]

@bf000777966 + 7h ago
although they should give up all hope to out-sell the PS4 globally but wining the NA along in October is very impressive.

While, the Xbox one halo 5 boost was pretty good for such a short time, again congratulations to Microsoft's win in the US for NPD, there are key indexing points that are showing retail sales in the US are not as strong today as they were last year in the US and retail, running door buster's special sales are being done over more along the entire Holliday season instead of just the few concentrated days.

The news this morning was even black Friday sales are not going to be as important as is the entire fall season due to consumer spending being spread out, so as retail shops are having more cost cutting % sales throughout the holidays.

And with black Friday both Xbox one and ps4 both being @$300.00 many may be waiting to hold off or purchase later in holiday buying instead of all front loading sales.

Nov & Dec and even Jan will be more along the signs of sales spread out over than just relying only on just a few days of each month.

[dreadz74]

81% more than last year wow Halo really is a system seller ! Nice win and with all the deals going on in Nov with free games galore Xbox should win again.

[Minato-Namikaze]

The xbox sold really bad last year in October. Partly because MS cut its legs from under it to push sales into November.

[DanzoSAMA]

"the Xbox One saw 81 percent growth compared to October 2014" wow

thanks to HALO 5

Congrats to Microsoft and 343.

[Dario_DC]

Good sales all around! MS proves that Halo still sells systems and Sony proves that Playstation still rules the world! Good time to be a gamer, unless you're a Nintendo only guy... /JK :)

[bleedsoe9mm]

and thats with a ps4 price drop , its really very impressive .

[Scatpants]

everyone already has a PS4. Might as well get an xbox to play Halo and Tomb Raider.

[Software_Lover]

Same thing I say every month......

And?

sidenote: good for Microsoft

[TripleCs]

I know that if I say what I want to say I'll unfairly be marked for trolling so I'll just keep it short. I really respect the fact that you're not being a hypocrite.

Anyways, congrats to Microsoft. I'm glad both console are doing well. Competition is good for the industry.

[Spectre_StatusN7]

MS took October as expected but Nov and Dec will more than likely return to Sony.

[Black0ut]

Time will tell I guess, not that I really watch figures. Honestly though, I hope everyone is having a good time from now through christmas no matter the platform that you're playing on.

We're all gamers after all and lets not forget that. There are far more important issues and bad practices from big developers and publishers in the gaming industry that we all should unite against. Happy gaming all =D

[dreadz74]

XB1 beat Ps4 even with their price drop. Halo came out 26 of Oct so it only charted for few days and still won the month in top game sales over all multi-plats that's lots of units. the momentum surely carried over to Nov as people continue to pick up Halo and bundled consoles with 2 extra games . Tomb raider and Halo along with BC will entice xbox 360 owners and bring new owners to XB1.

The exclusive deal with star wars and Blk ops 3 will not be enough as those games can be found on XB1 too along with BC and Halo 5,The graphical Tomb raider, Forza 6, Gears of war remake.Sony has the good but short Until dawn and Uncharted collection ya not a fair comparison . Hopefully this will wake sony up as this is the 3rd year with crappy holiday exclusives on Ps4 .

[MRMagoo123]

In NA only don't forget. World wide ps4 still won and will do so this entire gen.

[Ravenor]

The Gears remake did nothing but highlight how antiquated that game is. Could people stop touting it like it's worth replaying? It's not. Now a Gears 3 remake? That might have been worth peoples time.

Unless you really dug the Gears 1 multiplayer, that remake was a waste. Rare Replay though, that's a game.

[JMyers]

It's not only a "few days" for Halo or the bundle. Preorders were available since August for both, so sales for Oct are included in these pre-orders.

Similarly the preorders for the Sony Nov bundles will only count towards Nov. That's how NPD works. Sony will no doubt take Nov and possibly Dec. It is expected that MS wins with a NEW Halo Game and bundle. The gap is apparently 28K this month (according to GAF), which is very small considering the games MS had out so far. This why those points don't really ring true.

Also, why only holiday exclusives? MS hasd nothing for 8 months exclusive wise, but have multiple games in the same month? Does only the holiday matter?

[Sunny_D]

As opposed to Microsoft's usual crappy rest of year exclusives? Why do you seem to forget xbox was starving for games for the whole year and finally when it arrives during the holidays, MS fans forget about the rest of the year? And in North America only might I add.

[SoulWarrior]

As expected MS would win in the US this month due to Halo, not that surprising really.

"In a statement to IGN, Sony said it's "truly humbled by the success of the PlayStation 4," and took the opportunity to thank the PlayStation community "for making PlayStation 4 the top selling console globally."

And the PS4 has again sold more worldwide than X1, also not surprising.

Maybe the price drop would have had a bigger impact the PS4 wasn't already sell like hotcakes to begin with.

[kneon]

I have seen very little advertising about the price drop, I expect most potential buyers didn't even know.
But they will soon what with peak console buying season starting.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Did Halo just release in the USA? If it did release in other countries,how did the Xbox1 do?

[MRMagoo123]

Ps4 won world wide just not the US.

[DillyDilly]

The XBOX One will rule November, December

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

Please tell us how many XB1s were sold... -_-"

[dreadz74]

go to neogaf 81% increase from last year equals 304k http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[ocelot07]

I will be honest am a little surprised by this. But then again it was only in the US. I would imagin Sony has won November with the release of the COD BLO3 LE console and the Star Wars Battlefront LE Console.

[Lucreto]

“We are truly humbled by the success of the PlayStation 4 and look forward to celebrating with our fans at PlayStation Experience in December,” a Sony spokesperson said. “Thank you to our community for making PlayStation 4 the top selling console globally.”

Congratulations to Halo.

[pyroxxx]

*US
*1month
*Halo,..

Would be shocking if they lost npd in October,..
Would be interesting to see the difference ..it is still almost a million gap in US though ,.. but congrats to MS

[kstuffs]

You've to realize though Halo was launched on October 27, 2015, giving it just 5 days in the month for new buyers.

[Christopher]

Yeah, but that's going the biggest numbers for the game overall. It will never eclipse day 1 due to pre-orders. This is standard for all AAA games like this, Day 1 are the biggest selling days.

[kenwonobi]

That's what Halo does. It was known Xbox might eek out a victory in the some of the holiday months in only the USA. Congrats. I'd be more worried if they didn't.

[thisgamer503]

I'm a pretty avid xbox fan, but I honestly thought the PS4 price drop would decimate MS for the foreseeable future. Happy to see MS get a win...even though my next console will be ps4. Already own a x1

[SuicideKing]

I thought with ps4 price drop it would win even with halo. I can't believe halo won the month. I would love to know the attach rate for it, must be crazy.

[KojjiRonin]

Don't get it twisted MS made money off of Halo 5 and the Elite controller which you still can't find anywhere.Good for them and great that the competition between both companies is starting to get interesting.I will say this I'm loving backward compatibility so far,it definitely made my console a whole lot more fun plus the 2 extra games every month don't hurt either.Great time to own an XboX One.

[Vasto]

Gratz to MS.

Even a $50 price drop and Uncharted Collection was not enough.

[BIGBOSS08]

enough for what? PS4 is 15m ahead in sales and yeh its still in the lead in the US aswell and its clearly going to stay like that if xbox one can only cut 50k off the lead with its biggest damn exclusive game. what a joke! microsoft are a joke. with all the money they have and still they fail.

[Ko_Uraki]

Good results for Microsoft. Competition is good. Nevertheless I think that PS4 will easily win November.Hope for better numbers because the market seems declining.

[welly300]

If people brought a one for halo they will be disappointed, campaign was crap not tried the online yet.

[AutoCad]

who said halo was dead?

[BIGBOSS08]

not dead but its defo not as popular as it once was and its because of the xbox ones position. the games will suffer too.

[fulnattybrah]

Yoshi Wooly World outsold Uncharted... wow

[BIGBOSS08]

woooooooooooo!! yoshi outsold a bunch of re released games that have been on the market for years and millions have already played them. is that how bad things are for the wii u and nintendo fans? damn!

[Butters360]

Good to see UNCHARTED sold really well this month. This report doesn't factor in digital sales, which was in second place on October's chart. Also, doesn't include bundles, which was the major bundle for October.

Halo doing as usual so that's good for MicroSoft. I like the new UI a LOT better than the old one.

November should swing to Sony with all the Third Parties bundles they have secured and the PlayStation Experience in December.

[kduplessis07]

Everyone calm down about halo not selling as well at retail it's called digital sales. Two thirds of the people I know bought digital to play at midnight. People just want to completely gloss over this I'm willing to bet at minimum a million people bought digital.

[Flashback001]

Gratz to MS and 343...

I love Halo :) it's still my all-time favorite...

[Azzanation]

I expected nothing less from Halo. Its the system saviour

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Well this put a sock in my mouth, I thought Sony had this one for sure. Oh well.

[Artemidorus]

Sorry but this is common sense, the updates the games, Xbox will win the battles and more so with Christmas but Sony will dominate the war.

[acemonkey]

3 months out of 2 yrs

good job kinda surprised halo was a system seller

[frankdrebin72]

Congratulations.
Let's face it,...PS4 are doing very well,..but all Microsoft have to do is focus on their targets, keep delivering quality over quantity, innovate and keep pushing Sony.
It's a win win situation for gamers.
As for the " sales war warriors" relax guys, yes PS4 are in well in front, but everything loses momentum come time, others build momentum over time.
Competition is GOOD!
And it benefits the gamer, the parent, the son, the daughter.

[Destiny1080]

when a halo game got released it was like 300,000 for sony and like 560,000 for ms, a difference of 260,000 and a lot of people are saying there was a 5000 difference this time around, which basically means all of ms marketing money and the biggest game they got only managed to sell an extra 5000, if that's the case this is a victory for sony, sony have literally nothing coming out and only manages a 5000 loss and of course still wins globally

maybe its only catching the first few days of ms success but a 5000 victory so far is nothing

[JMyers]

The Gap is apparently 28K (according to GAF). Small condsidering the Halo, Forza and GeOW bundles. MS were expected to win given that this is their BIGGEST game. If they didn't then that would have been goodbye to the US market.

I believe the PS4 will take Nov and December easily, unless MS does another "temporary" price drop and fire sales like last holidays.

[Neonridr]

Congrats MS, Halo definitely helps move consoles. I will be interested to see numbers over Black Friday and the Holidays.

[CBaoth]

why? It'll be just like the last two Xmas. MS will outsell Sony by 400k October, November, and December then watch Sony outsell them 650k the following 9 months. Like I've always said these two will relatively split the market with Nintendo being the real loser in NA. To go from 42 million to hopefully 10 million by this generation's end, what MS really lost was the insulation Ninty provided against a Sony device.

[Neonridr]

why? Because I like to read numbers.

At the end of the day I do not care who sells more. I personally own a PS4. May break down and get an Xbox One eventually (Quantum Break could be my tipping point next April).

I am just happy to see that MS was able to have a good month. Competition is good for the industry, I don't want the PS4 to have some global stranglehold.. may cause them to become lazy.

Competition spurs Creativity as the old adage goes.

[cd1]

Unsurprisingly MS having a good month hasn't diminished the amount of fun I've had playing on my PS4. Why fanboys care so much is beyond me?

[alabtrosMyster]

Another US = the world "analysis"?

Don't these people know they are on Internet?

[sovkhan]

A win is a win, so Kudos to Ms !!!

Now we will have a full picture by the end of december.

But we can already say that Ms won't overtake the ps4 in NA.

The 28k victory is not enough to fullfill that.

Nov and Dec will be very fierce battle, but all in all, i don't see Ms selling 900k more than the ps4.

WW, the game is over, and it's been awhile.

[stormswrath]

It's not a win though. You can't ignore the world just because they won a region. The U.S. mens soccer team wins the concacaf region in the world cup qualifying and in most concacaf tournaments but then they lose in the world cup. So what good does being the best in a region for one month do, or even for a few months out of the year. Smh

[sovkhan]

NPD is NA only!!! and it's a NPD thread.

In this regard, we have to congratulate Ms for the win.

WW, it's a total different story, and as I already said, there's no doubt about the winner here ;)

[dadano]

Who would have thought that!

[DivineAssault]

Good job M$.. I only want rare replay and tomb raider but i wont buy the console for it.. I congratulate them for staying competitive.. I dont care for halo but theres obviously a crowd for it..

[Realms]

Why are people surprised? I would be very worried if I were MS and they didn't win with a flagship game like Halo 5. November and December will paint a better picture of the impact that MS changes have had. BO3 and Battlefront will do huge numbers sales wise and that could be the difference that decides who wins those months.

[Ethereal]

Something we already know. Games sell consoles...

[BIGBOSS08]

so about a 50k win for xbox one in the US for the whole month. on its biggest game release. its officially over in the US now. i think PS4 has the US on lock down.

[Zcarnut]

Didn't halo come out Oct 27.?..So we're talking the last 4 days of the month and it made that much impact.

[dekke]

it includes all pre-orders/bundles which were available since august ....

and for gods sake ppl, does it really matter which one sells better ? =D

[Morgue]

Honestly the best holiday line-up for MS in my opinion is the offering of backwards compatibility and Tomb Raider. Another title the X1 is offering that may have not got much press is a horror game cvalled LAYERS OF FEAR in the preview section for $12. It isn't the whole game but def has some great graphics and story so far from what they offer.

[KingKevo]

Well, that's because people were and are waiting for their bundles to be released, especially the Black Ops 3 and Battlefront bundle. People are waiting for Black Friday as well in the US. So yeah, expected this because of Halo 5 and the bundle it got, even if the PS4 had a pricedrop.

[VR-4nic]

This article is so misleading. The XB1 only won in it's home land of the US, but again LOST EVERYWHERE ELSE! What really matters is WorldWide sales and the PS4 still holds its ground and sells more the XB1.

u.s. sales winner = xb 1"time winner"

OVERALL WORLDWIDE WINNER= PLAYSTATION 4"ever the king"

[xasz]

What do you mean "misleading"?

Do you realize this article is talking specifically about NPD numbers?

You realize what NPD measures, right?

[Duoma]

I'll just leave this here:
https://youtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9...

and before anybody gets butthurt I like all platforms whether its pc, xbone, or ps4 this endless console war crap is stupid

[SynestheticRoar]

You want to impress me. Win a month in japan.

[ARESWARLORD]

That's just stupid man and really immature and it shows that you don't know anything about world behaviour the Japanese are very nationalistic and they would never support the American over a Japanese console

[xasz]

Considering the state of the console market in Japan in comparison to handhelds and mobile, no, it wouldn't really be "impressive":

www.eurogamer.net/articles/20 15-01-07-japans-console-and-han dheld-physical-game-sales-at-lo west-point-for-24-years

[WDBII]

I'm officially at a point of believing that there are bots down voting anything positive about Xbox and negative about PS. Man we can't catch a break. I feel that many people who didn't like Xbox last gen have finally gotten their chance to show their true hate and disgust. No matter what, XBL is 10x better than PSN. The Xbox is much quieter than the PS4. The Xbox is more consistent with updating the console. They do the little things. Sony just talks and takes your money but hey y'all were fine 2yrs ago and y'all are fine now. Y'all are even happy about announcements with no release date. I don't get it! To each it's own.

Congrats Micro! Let's get it!

[stormswrath]

Xbone is having such a miserable go at ps4 so let's boost fan boys egos when they win a region and give them something to cheer about any chance we get. Yeah this little edge in this one month is gonna do alot to chip away at the huge lead the ps4 has so let's go ahead and crown xbone champions of this gen. I'm not a fanboy I'm a gamer but this is really beginning to annoy me. Delusional fanboys that ignore the reality of the overall picture and numbers so they can feel good and make arguments for " their " company of choice. Face it folks, xbone is getting it's ass kicked and that's not gonna change. Better luck next gen Microsoft. Maybe you won't make all the horrible mistakes in year one of your next console that you made with xbone.

[Killzoner99]

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world Sony still dominates. You see , this is not even a blip on Sonys radar. Not even a bump in the road. The PS4 is already the victor of this gen.

[0to100]

Sony doesnt have a system seller, uncharted is only good for its 4 hour campaign as its multiplyer side sucks, shame though at least most multiplats run at 1080p if you ignore the low texture filtering

[MasterCornholio]

Sony has plenty of system sellers.

Like StarWars Battlefront for example.

:)

P.S Multiplats can sell systems as well. It doesn't have to be limited to exclusives.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Pretty sure Sony has November and December in the bag unless MS lowers price again. PS4 is killing it on Amazon right now.