Should Uncharted Follow Suit with Microsoft’s Gears Bundle?

TTZ: Sony should follow Microsoft's example by giving the Nathan Drake Collection free to buyers of Uncharted 4: A Thief's End.

[warrior82]

yep, i do think a preorder bonus is a good idea...it will be a great loyalty bonus to have all the games at once to relive the entire previous games and the new one in chronological order.

[Christopher]

Not possible.

1. They're PS3 games normally and can't be played on PS4 or easily ported the way 360 games can to XBO.

2. They're not going to invest a few million in making the remasters on disc only to then just give them away with a single game six months later. Talk about a slap in the face of the people who paid for the games.

So, the answer is, no. If they could be ported in a similar manner to what MS is doing with 360 games, sure, not a problem. But that's not what is happening here. Sony is just going to have to settle with not having BC and offer up something else in return or lose face with the fact that XBO gamers will be getting more.

[XboxOneX]

The remastered should be given away.

[morganfell]

You need to go back and read Christopher's statement. He is talking about the original games being PS3 games. No where did he say they were not being ported.

He is saying they can't be played WITHOUT being ported and porting costs a great deal of money. You missed that, didn't you. This would have been understood were you not looking to make a quick stab.

EDIT: Oh nice stealth editing...

In addition, this is three fully upgraded games in the Uncharted bundle, not just one game that is also going to be on PC.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. Its a giveaway that can't really be matched. They can bundle the console with the collection, they could even give a discount to Uncharted 4 with it, but free? Just unlikely.

Like you said, consider its a remaster and not just a port, also its not just the BC versions, they spent money on it that I'm pretty sure they wish to make back.

100% agreed.

Many don't get the business side of gaming, good to see some do.

Sony can't just do what MS is doing with BC and free games in terms of pre-order give aways. I mean they can, but it makes no sense currently.

[jb227]

How are XBO gamers getting more? What this article fails to realize is that MS never said they would be giving away the new Gears remaster for those who preorder Gears 4, nor are they giving away the Halo MCC to those who buy Halo 5...those are relatable scenarios to Sony giving away a brand new collection of remasters to people who preorder UC4, nothing like MS giving gamers access to old games untouched in their original form. It's a nice gesture but it's not putting them out of pocket much considering those games are not going to be moving copies anymore, and the copies they do move will be purchased at like 10 bucks a pop, totally different than asking to hand over brand new remastered versions of those older games. Totally flawed logic at play here.

[donthate]

I think like the author is saying, giving away the PORTED Uncharted collection to people that previously played Uncharted on PS3 is not really a reasonable request.

However, giving a discount to people that owns the game like Dishonored port did is!

So if you own let say Uncharted 2 for PS3, you get the ported Uncharted Trilogy for half price.

[OB1Biker]

Is nt there a mistake though? I though the 360 gears games were given for free if you buy the remastered gears 'ultimate edition'.
So its like you buy Drakes fortune remastered and the other games are bundled with it.
Unless there s already an offer for Gears 4 I missed?

[XisThatKid]

To answer the title, nope. Although would be nice but unnecessary

[CrowbaitBob]

So you want the entire collection included with the purchase of Uncharted 4, just like Microsoft is including the entire collection with the purchase of Gears 4?

Oh, wait a minute, Microsoft isn't offering anything with the purchase of Gears 4 aside from Gears 4. So yes, Naughty Dog should follow suit. You buy Uncharted 4, you get Uncharted 4.

[crazychris4124]

As much as I would love to get the collection for free with UC4, when the collection is selling for $60 I doubt they will bundle it with UC4 for free. However I could see them adding it to the PS+ free games collection a month before UC4 drops or giving you a discount on the UC collection if you have pre ordered UC4.

[XboxOneX]

No they will NOT.

[DarXyde]

So about the guys in "the other camp" letting themselves into topics that don't concern them...

Son, don't perpetuate problems. If you have nothing constructive to say here, offer your input somewhere where it can be constructive.

[-Foxtrot]

The Gears of War deal is fantastic value and I think Microsoft played their cards right on that one. Very impressed overall

Can people understand why there was criticism for this bundle

The Gears of War Remaster is getting an online mode AND 3 other games

The least Uncharted could have had is either an online mode which is from Uncharted 2 or Golden Abyss.

Hey even if it was just a horde mode with co-op that would be something.

This should have been called the "NaughtyDog Collection" while a future one including multiplayer, Golden Abyss and maybe Uncharted 4 should have been called "The Nathan Drake Collection".

People need to understand that getting an beta is not the same as a full online mode.

[Rimeskeem]

Unless this was being made by Naughty Dog i doubt they would make it the "Naughty Dog collection". It also wouldnt make sense because Naughty Dog made Crash, Jak, Uncharted and TLoU so it would give off the wrong impression if someone who was very uninformed saw it.

[-Foxtrot]

But they are still NaughtyDog games meaning you could explain while Golden Abyss wasn't included

[Rimeskeem]

it would give off the wrong message unfortunately to some. Thats what i think

[jb227]

Those 3 other games are presented as is in their old forms, look at it this way for equivalent value if you need to, Sony is selling you a remastered version of Uc1 & giving you remastered versions of 2 & 3 for free. MS is selling you Gears and giving you old last gen installments for free. Don't understand how people aren't seeing this....MS had to include Gears mp because that's what the vast majority of the audience cares about, UC is & has always been an sp focused series, come off all the hate for this collection...it's not for you, we get it...doesn't mean it isn't exactly what many others are asking for, stop trying to pass your opinions off as fact.

[ilikepizza]

actually microsoft didnt have to give you anything. They could of just counted on halo 5 to be there shooter for the year. Instead they actually remastered gears 1 (not a cheap port) and then took a step farther with the multiplayer and gave it gears of war 3 lay out which plays much faster and smoother than gears 1. On top of that it's only $39??? then come to find out you get 3 other gears of war games with it?!

No one is exactly hating on the collection but coming off a weak ass god of war "remaster" for $40 people are finding it harder to justify buying a uncharted collection that is missing a game,features and modes for $60. it's a shame psnow is a failure because sony could of did like microsoft and just offer you last gen games to play for free via psnow but sony wouldnt dare do that because they dont have too,people will worship sony no matter how much they rip them off,reminds me of apple.

[ninsigma]

Except the three extra games is just access to the original versions playable on xb1 through bc. Giving the uc collection away for free if you buy uc 4 is completely different and would no sense what so ever.

[smashman98]

MS is remastering one game and giving people the original trilogy + judgement for free and sony is remastering the trilogy and giving beta access. Microsoft is not giving a remastered trilogy with 4 at least not that we know of yet so why would sony give anything with 4?

[johndoe11211]

This^^

[gangsta_red]

MS is giving people the original Gears remastered including remastered and updated MP, then offering the whole series through BC which also includes all MP modes. That is thousands of hours of replay that will more than likely never end.

Sony is giving you the Uncharted collection with none of its MP features with beta access to 4 that will end when ND gets the data they need and go gold with the game.

Why wouldn't Sony give more with 4?

[rdgneoz3]

@bleedsoe9mm So you have a WiiU then correct? Since it's had BC since day 1.

[KiwiViper85]

@Rdgneoz3

When WiiU makes a remastered Zelda: Ocarina of time, and also bundles every other Zelda game, give me a call.

Until then these situations cannot be compared.

[sactownlawyer916]

In my opinion and based on naughty dogs track record, PlayStation gamers dont need incentives to buy uncharted 5.

[Youngindy21]

But the Gears of War Remaster is an actual REMASTER with redone cutscenes, updated graphics, new multiplayer mode, etc. The Nathan Drake Collection is just a PORT without the multiplayer. Needless to say, Sony should just give it away with Uncharted 4.

[Aenea]

And how do you define remaster and port then hmm?

As a programmer for me a port is 'just recompiling' (in quotes since it's not that simple) the code and using all the same graphics assets and not changing one bit about the game, probably not even a resolution change.

A remaster is when they actually go over the code, improve on it, up the resolution, go over all the graphic assets and change them to higher resolution versions and make the game anew.

The Nathan Drake Collection is a Remaster...

[seppo91]

how can people actually expect a company to just give away 3 enhanced remastered games for free if you buy another game? what is this? Disneyland?
Where is all this BS coming from?

And ney, the drake collection is a remaster, not a port. its got a lot going for it besides 1080p and 60fps.

[StrangerX]

To make it more accurate. MS is remaking and redesigning a whole game into a remaster, the way I think it should be and giving away by BC all the 360 version and whatever respective dlc you've acquired. Sony is just updating the res and frame rate that they had kept away in the stored PC that was used to create the game and just encode it to work on the PS4 minus the multiplayer maps.

[johndoe11211]

It's funny, you said "to make it more accurate" and then proceeded to spout a heaping pile of BS, false statements and give out completely inaccurate information. That's irony at it's best.

[NeoGamer232]

From videos of the collection I wouldn't call it a re-master. I would call it an upscaling to 1080p and an increased framerate.

A re-master would require them to go and improve all the character/villain models and environments.

Sony isn't even calling it a re-master. They are calling it a collection. Essentially making gamers pay for BC. Everyone talked about evil money hungry Microsoft, but Sony gamers are completely letting Sony off the hook for BC. So badly that they are paying for a BC experience in GoW III and Uncharted Collection.

[smashman98]

@bleedsoe9mm this literally has nothing to do with BC because both ways your getting all console versions of each franchise. Also I'm not a fanboy as gears is one of my favorite series of last gen minus judgement. But when comparing gears of war ultimate edition to the uncharted trilogy which is one remastered game plus the original versions of each part in there series vs three remastered single player campaigns. Now if Gears 4 were to come out and say any one who buys this gets the whole trilogy remastered then yea i get why sony would think they might have to do something but as it stands I really do not see why sony would feel like they would have to bring anything with uncharted 4 as microsoft hasn't said they're bringing anything with gears 4.

[Shazz]

still gutted theres no muliplayer in this collection , what a missed opportnity to get that uncharted 2 mp booming again

[isa_scout]

Yeah it really feels lazy to be honest. I'd rather have mp for UC2 than a UC4 beta that will probably last a week. I'm a huge UC fan, got all 3 platinums to prove it, but everything I've seen of the collection just seems lackluster compared to what MS is doing with the Gears UE. It'll probably end up like the GOW3 remaster.Very small improvements,1080p, big price tag. Something tells me this isn't for UC fans, and more for the people that have yet to play the series. I'll probably end up renting it from GameFly, if only to platinum all 3 again. As much as I love Uncharted and ND I'm not spending $60 for a beta.

[KiwiViper85]

And I was originally upset when I found out it was just Gears 1, not the trilogy.

[isa_scout]

@kiwi I'm confused.... I don't know how your comment is supposed to be read.... How is MS charging $40 for a truely remastered/remade campaign,co-op, extra campaign missions, and full MP suite anything to be upset about? After seeing the UC collection in action can anyone here with a straight face say that looks as impressive as what the coalition is doing with Gears? I mean they haven't even released a screenshot of Uncharted:DF, doesn't that worry anyone but me? Drakes Fortune needed the most work, wouldn't that be the one you'd think Sony would show off? So many questions and Sony hasn't really said anything. At least MS was confident enough to put the Gears UE beta in the hands of EVERY Xbox One owner. Unless that's what you're actually saying, in which case I agree.

[Master-H]

"This is following Microsoft’s example with GEARS OF WAR 4 for which Microsoft is giving away the previous titles for free via backwards compatibility."

This is not true at all. MS is giving away the last gen titles through BC with every GEARS OF WARS ULTIMATE purchase (gears 1 remastered), not Gears of War 4.

What the article is talking about would be like asking MS to give The Master Chief Collection for free along with every Halo 5 copy, or giving away Gears of War Ultimate along with every Gears 4 purchase, ie not gonna happen.

What a dumb, misguiding article.

[guitarded77]

I just wish they had done multiplayer for Uncharted. U2 and U3 had awesome MP. I would rebuy in a heartbeat if it was there.

[isa_scout]

Me to bro. I really hope ND takes it easy with the DLC in Uncharted 4 to. I remember getting on UC3 mp and seeing (no exaggeration) $250 worth of DLC. And not just cosmetic stuff either. There must've been 15 seperate guns to buy as well. Pissed me off so much. UC3 mp was a huge step in the wrong direction. UC2 mp was fantastic though.

[ninsigma]

Yeah I don't understand why they didn't. They could have at least just included mp for 2. It doesn't affect me too much as I'm mostly a single player gamer but I did enjoy the odd round of uc2 mp and it seems a lot of people really liked the mode so it's a shame :/

[Rookie_Monster]

Me too. I was set to preorder it but the omission of MP for UC2 is really shocking and now I'll wait till it drops to like $20 before getting early next year. Why ND and Sony decide to drop MP when TLOU HD has it is still a mystery to me.

[hkgamer]

Guess they didnt know what to do with MP, keep both Mp available even though 4 is just round the corner? TLOU is slightly different since it may not get a sequel and that was actually made by ND and obvioulsy being 1 game makes a big difference

[TwoForce]

I'm going to buy Uncharted collection.

[Tedakin]

Not sure why'd they'd need to since it includes all 3 games remastered, and even if they did include them they can only be played on the ps3.

[DillyDilly]

They could always include download codes in a bundle

[StrayaKNT]

You know what's going to be in the collection so just enjoy it for what it is instead of wishing for added stuff imo

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Jesus...I am amazed sometimes by people's entitled mentality. Gears Ultimate is a remake of an existing game...it fully revamped but it's not something "new". The inclusion of the 4 games are just that...4 games untouched and running as they did. UC4 is an entirely new game and the Uncharted collection is a remastered collection that the team worked to optimize and code to run at 60fps. If it was just a straight port of the Uncharted games I would be saying different but as it stands...no. pony up the money and enjoy Uncharted.

[deadpoolio316]

They are also rebalancing the 3 games and adding features from 2 and 3 into the first game....

[KimikoGaming]

They should have put in a PS4 version of Golden Abyss as well.

[Picnic]

Microsoft can afford generosity due to over 10 years of Xbox Live fees.

I do want to be able to play Golden Abyss on the PS TV though.

[Yetter]

so in 10 years Sony will be able to offer us the same value?

[zombie78rock]

Nathan Drake Collection free
It will be for PS PLUS members next year I can all most confirm it!!! also when UC4 is released this game will be on discount shelf. probably half off!!!!

[CantBeStopped]

There's a reason Microsoft is giving those games away free though, its the same reason they cut the price and made several bundles with multiple free games. Its because they have to do anything and everything to encourage people to buy the thing, Sony doesn't have that problem. Sony needs to absolutely not follow suit on anything Microsoft is doing.

[hkgamer]

I think if Uncharterted collection was available unbundled in the PSN store than I think Sony should try and give 1 game of choice free for any Uncharted 4 preorder. That would be a great marketing tactic that encourages the user to buy the rest from the digital store. OBviously would be quite hard since we dont know what kind of contract they have with bluepoint to develop this port.

[CrowbaitBob]

I don't recall any mention of Microsoft giving away any games as a bonus for buying Gears 4. Why should anyone in their right mind compare the Gears 1 remake to the completely brand new Uncharted 4?

I'm sorry but this concept seems a bit disconnected from logic.