whengeeksgobad

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A Month With My New PS3: An XB360's Owner's Impressions and Wish List.

I love electronics, the convergence of technology, and just plain ol' fidgeting with stuff to get the most out of our investments.  It didn't take me long to determine that the PS3 was my ideal choice for a BR player, but wanted to know what it was really capable of, and frankly, to try to replace my xb360 as the device I use to watch HD Media in my living room.  It made no sense to me that I'd be watching .AVI's or HD-WMV's on my 360, and BR discs on the ps3.  One device would be ideal but after a bit of researching, it just may not be possible.  Below, I've broken down the things I've noticed immediately about the ps3, and what I'd like to see added/improved, as well as the things I like about it. 

Things I like:

Blu Ray Player:
I feel like this speaks for itself, so I'll not elaborate on it.

It's quiet:
One of my biggest complaints about the 360 is how loud it is.  The home theatre has to be cranked up pretty loud to drown out the fan whine of the xbox and its a drag.  Because the ps3 is more quiet, its now my preferred device to watch Hulu, Netflix, and other web streaming services.  This is done via Playon, and I've been very happy with the service.   

Upgradeable HD, Linux Support..Sorta, Built-In WiFi:
Since I cannot Hook up my external HD (see wish list section below), I'll need to upgrade the HD in the ps3 to get the most from it.  This is easy (and pretty affordable) with the PS3.  If you ever want to do an Ubuntu Linux install, the larger HDD would be ideal also.

The built in WiFi works as expected, but there are restrictions and workarounds for it under Linux.  I just went the ethernet route in the end.

I know people out there have been installing Ubuntu on the PS3's, and I'd like some more feedback from those who are using it regularly.  Here's what I found:
You simply cannot use the ps3 with Linux as an HTPC because it doesn't have the horsepower to display HD content.  It's not because the PS3 is underpowered, but rather, its pretty unlikely developers in the linux community will be given access to RSX acceleration.  As I understand it, they've also been locked out of several of the SPE's in the Cell processor itself.  Unless you like to play old emulated Nintendo Games (and I do), you may find your fresh Linux install on your PS3 going stale rather soon.  Plus, that space can be used for more music/content.

The XMB:
At first it took me a moment to figure it out.  Now that I have, I like it more than I like the new Xbox Experience, or whatever its called.  Navigating through tabs on my Xbox now makes me feel like I'm watching the Disney Channel.  It's a bit annoying in how loud it is visually.  I simply prefer the XMB more as a more subtle "dashboard."

Wish List:

HFS+ Support
First, let me explain the old/existing setup:  XB360 elite, connected to a 500 GB Western Digital external HD.  This HD has been reformatted using the HFS+ filesystem (it's the mac file system, at the moment I have no PC's - my last pc died and I just haven't replaced it).  Using the mac file system I avoid the FAT32 file size limitation, and can use the device freely with all of my macs and my linux box at work without needing any additional tools to read/write/mount the drive.  With HFS+ support, I could completely replace my xbox as a media hub now that I've got playon up and running.  :(

With the xbox, I simply plug the drive in, and watch any of the supported media formats directly off the drive.  I prefer this to streaming over a network because its far more responsive.  Fast Forward/Rewinding streamed content is  a PITA, I've found the playback experience to much more rewarding while connected directly to the xbox.  

This cannot be done with the PS3.  The PS3 does not support the filesystem, so the drive cannot be hooked up.  I've had to find alternate workarounds, which, with no PC have been... Interesting.  It can be done but its not easy.  Basically, the easiest work around for selfish little me would be for the ps3 to simply support HFS+. Not only would it help me out, but it would also help out anyone who also doesn't have a PC, but has an Ipod they'd like to hook up to their ps3 and listen to their mp3's.

Music + Gaming:
This is a feature that I took for granted with the XBox. Listening to your own music in most any game you want is a great thing, and it's something I just can't do with the PS3 in every game. 

Proprietary Remote:
I can't use my universal remote with the ps3, its beyond silly.

Better Multiplatform Ports:
I'm not here to argue or bash the PS3.  I believe personally that the PS3 is a very capable machine when developers really take the time to put it to work.  It's sad to see that most games which are available for both systems are generally speaking, inferior on the PS3.  If this is not the case, I think we can all agree that Sony needs to do a much better job of accentuating why the experience is superior on the ps3.  In the future, I can see the Blu Ray capacity being a HUGE advantage for Sony.  At present, my own experience in comparing titles, as well sifting through the many reviews online all leave me with the impression that ps3 gamers are generally receiving an inferior product when compared to their xbox counterparts.  This is really frustrating because anyone who's seen killzone on a ps3 knows that its very capable.  Over time, these kinks will get ironed out as developers get more comfortable working with Cell/RSX, I hope. 

Bottome line:
I'm looking for a console that allows me to do it all from the living room and *NEITHER ONE OF THEM* is there yet.  The Xbox is too loud, the ps3 doesn't work for my particular setup.  I'll need to continue using both for this or that.  I'm a fan of content moreso than the platforms that deliver them, and I can honestly say I like both consoles quite a bit.  I look forward to seeing how each manufacturer keeps their product evolving through firmware updates and new software. 

wggb



xino5422d ago

good job for giving donation to Sony and earning the Real Next Gen console!

Has for the Installing Linux part, don't bother man. You'll have to do a lot of coding if you want something to work on Linux:/

Also it's easy to get PS3's Media file share working with little effort.

madpuppy5419d ago

you don't need to do any programming to install/use Linux, either on a PC or the PS3. that is just uninformed drivel.

phosphor1125418d ago

PS3 Media Server..GREAT program. You will learn to love it. Y ou can transfer media files with pure ease.
http://www.afterdawn.com/so...

Also, try YDLinux. It runs a lot better than Ubuntu does. You can watch HD media on YDL since they programmed it for the Cell and powerPC. Lots of "tools" *cough* you can use in Linux as well..

Many other things exist like this. http://translate.google.com... http://www.allgaming.de/thr...

Try um out.

whengeeksgobad5417d ago

@phosphor112: Thanks for the advice. I actually just wrote up a review on my experiences with ps3 media center. It's EXACTLY what I was looking for. That blog post should be coming shortly, but its likely all stuff that you already know :)

Jinxstar5420d ago

There are universal remotes that work with the PS3. Sorry yours doesn't.

Game on though bro. good blog.

hoo_mook5420d ago

pray tell. What universal macro enabled remote works with the ps3?

Jinxstar5420d ago

http://www.ricavision.com/v...

I also know Logitech and harmony make a few BT remotes that work without the adaptor. Can't find them right this moment but your gonna pay a lot currently for most of them but if your big into that kind of thing then it's well worth it.

housegroove765419d ago

that ricavision remote looks nice, but i have to disagree on one thing you said...

There are NO harmony remotes (made by logitech) that support bluetooth without the external adaptor that just came out. I researched this extensively before I bought my Harmony One.

hoo_mook5419d ago

I haven't researched it yet but it looks very Media Center centric.

I concur with housegroove - definitely no harmonies with bt.

whengeeksgobad5419d ago

its worth mentioning I'm presently using a Harmony... Hence my sadness in the blog.

Jinxstar5419d ago

I believe you. My buddy has some off the wall crazy remote(He's loaded) I thought it was harmony. I'll find out though and PM you guys if you like.

hoo_mook5418d ago

thanks.

whengeeksgobad...pick up that new harmony bt adaptor and do a write up on that too. apparently you're able to write in an unbiased fashion.

whengeeksgobad5417d ago

@hoo - I was considering getting that adapter. If I do, I'll definitely share my thoughts. Thanks for the feedback!

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Insanium5420d ago

A nice, unbiased review that didn't end in " -blank- is stupidly terrible and you should be ashamed for owning one, go buy the -other blank-"

Cajun Chicken5420d ago

You'll love the predictive text system on the PS3, I've also filled in nearly all my vocabulary on it now. It's great for searching through browsers and sending messages.

Make sure you label albums to keep the XMB tidy as possible. This is fairly easy to do, just press Triangle over the file and give it an album name, this'll add them into the same album folder on the XMB, to add more, simply give another file on the same section of the XMB the same album name.

Also, take advantage of making custom video thumbnails with videos on your PS3's HDD by pressing Triangle whilst watching the clip and then selecting 'Make thumbnail' icon to set a small looping preview of the video. This looks really slick on the XMB as you flip through the videos.

Additional thing to do with external harddrives, press Triangle over seemingly unreadable devices and an option'll come up the side.
I'm pretty sure this won't work for your problem, but you can view most folders on a external HDD this way if you can't just open it, but the PS3 system only seems to go about 5 folders inside each other and then declares nothing else exists after that.

These are things I just love with the PS3 system. Enjoy!

GiantEnemyCrab5419d ago

Question for you on the thumbnails for video. I've tried doing this many times and it never works. All my media is on a network however. So my question is does the custom moving thumbnails only work on media stored on the PS3 itself?

Good tips.

krouse935419d ago

I am not sure as I don't use the media share that much but I do know it works with everything I have store i just click make custom thumbnail and it creates the 15-30 or however long it was clip to display before you click on it its really useful.

phosphor1125418d ago

It has to cache that thumbnail preview on the HDD otherwise, and since most media servers are Java based, which don't have access to those sort of tasks.

Willeonabe5417d ago

Actually GEC, it depends on the media server program that you use. TVersity (the one I use doesn't) but if you use the Windows Media Player server then the thumbnails come up on most video.

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Ace_Pheonix5420d ago

I have a 250 Gig External hooked up to mine and I love it. You just have to format it in FAT32. I'm sure you know that, and you dislike FAT32 because of the file size restrictions. And it is a pain in the ass. But really, I have tons of movies and over 20 Gigs of music on it, along with all my wedding pictures, and I don't have a single file that's too large for FAT32. The only thing I can think of that would be too large is a very very high end Hi-Def movie that's also very long. All in all, it'd be great if they released a firmware that added support for other filetypes, but there really aren't any downsides to formatting in FAT32.

whengeeksgobad5419d ago

@Ace Pheonix: most of the content I'm concerned with watching is *over* 4.7 gigs. We're talking anywhere between 4.5-10 gig h264.mkv's, and some hd-wmv's. Also, I have no PC's at home/work. I use mac/linux almost exclusively, so fat32 doesn't always play nicely with those boxes. Thanks for the input though, I've seriously considered it. I've recently found some software that runs natively on the mac that will transcode/stream the mkv's on the fly to the ps3, and I may blog about that next actually. This solution works for me and its been working almost flawlessly.

Anon19745418d ago

I've got a 250GB USB drive and I just formatted it as Fat32 and have never looked back. Works great, and much more responsive then streaming over the network.

phosphor1125418d ago

There is a workaround for what you're wanting..The files you want are originally around 8 - 11 Gigs..if I know what you are talking about.

Look at this link..

http://www.demonoid.com/fil...

PM me for an invite if you'd like. It'll help you out.

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