PS3 40gig version 100% compatible with PS1 games

This is to dispel some confusion among potential consumers mind. Although the 40 gig PS3 isnt backwards compatible with ps2 games (AT THE MOMENT) it can fully emulate all PS1 games.

However look forward to firmwire updates which would make software emulation of PS2 games possible on PS3.

This is what BIZ DAILY is reporting :-

"GameDaily BIZ also contacted SCEE spokesman Nick Sharples who told us, "We have made clear on many occasions that our priority is on developing innovative new features and services for PS3 and not on backwards compatibility. The 40GB model no longer contains any elements of the PS2 chip set which powered backwards compatibility in previous models, and is therefore only compatible with PS one titles."

[nasim]

That the 60gig PS3 bundle with 2 games just cost 350 pounds in UK vs 299 pounds for the 40 gig version (geared only at those who want just the next gen gaming ).

It is a great decision from SONY since 120 million people already have a ps2 and wont be buying ps3 for ps2 games.

HOWEVER a CELL can fully emulate MAC OS at 60fps so emulation of PS2 games in the future by CELL is very much possible.

BUT do you honestly want to play ps2 games after playing ultrarealistic HS and UNCHARTED

NO

XBOTS please stay off this topic . We dont want ur opionion ---ur console is sheer garbage and contains no NEXT GEN BD PLAYER,NO WIFI and NO HDMI 1.3

and not to forget x360 has 100% defective rate

with this PRICE EUROPE has now fallen to ps3 domination. NA and JAPAN to go

:)

[Dannagar]

We'll Nasim, your system has no games and no user base. Well Microsoft ads more features to Xbox 360, Sony keeps taking away features. This 40 gig system is a desperate act by Sony to try and save their dying system.

Well, if you get RROD, you send back the system and get a new one from Microsoft, then your 3 year warranty starts all over again . Apparently there are a lot of working Xbox 360 systems out there because the software keeps selling and selling. So how was that Madden on PS3? What was that... 30 FPS.

[Maddens Raiders]

-- "your system has no games and no user base" --

I know it's really popular these days especially with people that get RRoD a lot but you should stay clear of Meth. I hear it clouds your mind, causes your teeth and hair to fall out and causes people to say really stupid fuct up things that they would not otherwise say if they had just *thought, before they opened their piehole.

Get a Life.

[Nuch Vader]

In Japan, the Playtation 3 lags light years behind the DS, Wii and even their own PSP. In North America, it past way to Xbox 360. Master Chief pop PS3 a good one right between the Eyes. It's Dead. In Europe, it sold 55% of it systems the first week. No one wants it any more. It's just a dead system. I'm sorry you were stupid enough to buy a Playstation 3 Nasim. And I'm sorry you were born a retard. I know it hurts. Move on.

[Primetimebt]

As for Japan, how long you think the Wii can hold over the world #1 RPG game country? In North American an estimate 50K XBOX break a day how long until those owner say enough is enough? In europe (well the U.K.) sales were pretty much even but with a sony price cut this could easily take away U.K. from XBOX and put Sony in control of Europe.

[MANTIIS]

Apart from noticing the sheer stupidity some ppl say in their post regarding this topic, those who actually read the article would take note that they are referring to the ps2 chipset to be missing only, like the 80 GB. The firmware for the 40GB will probably not allow the system to emulate PS2 games either, but if there is demand for it noticed by Sony, backwards compatibility can easily be emulated through firmware updates in the future. Now, I wish to be amused by what some jackass will say to that.

[INehalemEXI]

This PS3 sku seems aimed right at PS2 owners. Whom havnt already snatched up a ps3. They would probably have liked there to be some ps2 BC though. So maybe its just for folks who wont spend 500+ on a console.

Good to see ps3s price dropping in time for the holidays.

[GoLeafsGo]

Software emulation should take care of PS2 games.
Hopefully, Sony won't go back on their word with that.

[Arkham]

The immediate problem is software emulation of the GS+EDRAM. The bandwidth was so high that current opinion says it's not (yet) possible.

Whether or not they can surmount this in the future is unknown. If it is possible, it won't be made known until at least after the holiday season.

As the 80GB model stimulated demand for the 60GB SKU, I have a feeling this 40GB model is likewise stimulating demand for the 60GB and 80GB SKUs for the holiday season. At the same time there's now an affordable hi-def, forward-only SKU.

It makes a lot of sense. Whether or not it pays off...well... Dunno. I have my launch unit, and I'm seriously not concerned. ;)

[Ju]

It would be interesting to know, if Sony said good bye for good to the BC or if they are still working on a SW only solution. If successful, this could at least lead to a hi def rendering of PS2 games, instead of just upscaling. So, eventually, it won't even be a disadvantage. IF they'd do it, though. (However, testing a SW only emu is much more of an effort - you gotta play 2000+ games in their entirety to test the emu).

[pwnsause]

well, its pretty obvious that the 40gb version will be able to play PS2 games in the future. I guess they're creating a PS2 Emulator for the PS3

[TheFatOne]

The 40gb PS3 would actually be better for me because I have 3 times as many PS1 games than Ps2 games like Parapa The Rapper, FF7-9, Legend of Dragoon, and my list goes on and on.

[ApocalypseShadow]

it's a strategic move.some will think the 40gig is weaker,so they buy the 60gig for BC(IN EUROPE).which they are trying to get rid of in the first place.notice how it is being released in europe where 60gigs are still in large quantity?while sony stated 60gigs in america were almost extinct.

the ones who want to save money,will buy the 40gig in droves.and once there are millions in gamers hands,just watch,there will be a software download for ps2 games for the 40gig.no more work will be done for BC because the software is finished.

they won't say anything until the systems are sold in abundance.but it doesn't matter to me anyway being that i have the launch ps3.and I LIKE PLAYING OLD GAMES WITH MY NEW GAMES.PS1 AND PS2 WITH PS3.LOVE IT!

but sony will say something like this:"if gamers really want BC for 40 gig owners,then we'll look into giving it to gamers in a future download.""it's not impossible."just wait.it will be a kaz harai future statement.

will the strategy work like they used to get gamers to buy the 60gig in america by releasing the 80gig bundle with motorstorm?

guess we'll see......but excellent price for new gamers.no excuse now from sony fans to pick up a cheaper ps3.not rabid haters.haters were just complaining to complain and defend 360 and it's cheaper price.now the price is no longer a thing that can be used.now haters will only hold on to "you don't have games."which we all know is nonsense.

interesting sony.this chess game is very interesting......

mag lev.................

[Ju]

You forget that the 60GB in Europe IS the 80GB in the US...guess what's next up in the US? There was never a PS3 with a EE+GS (the current US-60-GB model) available in Europe. The US-80 and the EU-60 are actually the same models with different HDs only (and different bundles). Both without EE but GS only.

[d3l33t]

its so shiny!

[jaja1434]

Hmm seems just odd to not have PS2 emulation nailed down before they released this. Then again I doubt that most people would/will/do know that the PS3 can can past games. Same goes for the 360.

So though its odd to me, its no big lose for Sony.And they'll get it sooner or later.

[sumfood4u]

I'm happy they can replay FF7, BOF3, an SOTN. but what about Suikoden 3,4,5 & .hack Series?

[Figboy]

keep their PS2s.

just because you buy the new system, doesn't mean you have to get rid of the old system.

besides, i honestly think, that due to consumer pestering, they will eventually "swap positions," and once again continue support of BC. remember the rumble thing? yeah, something like that.

[lawman1108]

....cuz, gamestop wont evem take ps1 games as a trade....wtf still plays them ?

[WilliamRLBaker]

considering the fact with software emu on the current stock of ps3's they aren't 100% BC why would they make that statement?

Then again they made the same statement with the original systems that they we're 100% bc and then it turned out they weren't.

Oh well good thing I got the ""100%** BC with ps2, and ps1.

[Eclipticus]

OKay let me rephrase this, Anyone Own an 80G ps3? If so, Can you play the Same Amount of PS2 games? or Should I purchase the PS2 and buy MotorStorm seperate.?

[Maddens Raiders]

knows how to keep the PlayStation brand at the front of the news. First they get "caught" in the Wiki Halo 3 scandal, then they announce rumble at TGS with no mention of price drop, right before Ars Technica insider got wind of 40GB PS3 on the way, then the Big Bang announcement after that. This Sony team is on full tilt with PlayStation news right now. Not only have these wile bastards got people talking about a lower priced PS3, they have them talking about the PS1 and the PS2. LOL - amazing!

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[skynidas]

i dont care about BC and themart you and your loved ps3 will be 5h1tt1ng on yourselves when the ps3 starts selling like hotcakes and surpass the 360 sales

[Darkiewonder]

Just make life easier: put up the Ps1 games on the PSN store. Done. Kthxbai Sony.

[Maddens Raiders]

It's over Mart-in. Over. Just accept another honorable mention at the console war sweepstakes. The WORLD knows, loves, and wants PlayStation not XBox. It was a pretty good run while it lasted, but nothing Microsoft squeezes out of it's defective, rushed console tube is going to lead you to victory. Sit back, enjoy your 2 years of fame on the market, your dumbed down multi-plat hazy looking games and move aside for the Next generation of Pwnage. Halo 3was the last shot at continuing any steam the 360 had and after all the hype and hooplah it wasn't even that special. Just start saving your Microsoft sanctioned money for the next XBox in 2009.

-- " am so waiting for MS to give the final blow: dropping price on the 360 again, and this Christmas to sell closer to the 200 to 250 Euro/Dollar where the mass buys. Imagine a 279 Euro/Dollar 360 Premium." --

Famous last words of a deseprate fool.

Guess you'll be what 41 or 42 when it's available? Do you have a shrine in your home dedicated to the timeline of the XBox? (pretty short huh?) It doesn't matter Marty no one wants that second hand shyt product which becomes more and more outdated as the seconds tick by a/w. And who is RRoD?

I think you know the truth like the rest of us -- I suggest you get a piece of paper, a pen, and a balloon for 2008. Write a letter looking for a likeminded person wishing and hoping for pricedrops from MS and BC and a BIG BIG year for MS and then seal your little letter and attach it to the balloon. Run out to the highest building in your town and send that cute little balloon sailing as far and as high as it will go. I promise if I see it -- I won't shoot it out of the sky you whiny little girl.

W 3 L C O M E C H A N G E

[Arkham]

I hate even the suggestion of instigation, but after some wine and beer, I can't help saying: you just *know* he's going to start blathering on about "120FPS@1080P 4all GamEz!1!and noAAAAA gameshard to devlop4!1" any minute now.

[Snukadaman]

No people want too play ps2 games..god of war 2....persona 3...yeaa you people can disagree and think things are great in the sony camp but the internet is a big place..any smart person knows BC with ps2 on the ps3 was a big selling point...as usual the same idiots claiming this is a good thing...sad indeed.

[ApocalypseShadow]

but how does sony get rid of the loss making 60gig(because of the chips inside) in europe if they tell the 40gig buyers that a firmware upgrade is coming for ps2?gamers won't buy the 60gig.no matter what comes in a bundle.they'll run to the cheaper 40gig system leaving the 60gig on the shelf.

sony doesn't want to drop the 60gig to the same price as the 40gig because it loses them money.but they want to phase it out by saying"look at this added value.""it's got games,BC and an extra controller."

it's a smart move if it works.sony dropped the price of ps3 in america and bundled motorstorm with 80gig.what happened?gamers bought the 60gig.but sony's thinking at the time was,

"now we can get rid of the 60gigs in america.once they are all gone,we can drop the 80gig in price.less than what it is now.but it's done to move older systems out.same with sony having the 20gig at launch.what happened?gamers bought the 60gig?why?added value.BUT SONY WAS TRYING TO SELL THE 60GIG MORE TO BEGIN WITH ANYWAY.

some of you don't know how the retail game works.

it's like saying:

"after christmas sale.""all current inventory must go.""items as low as 50% off."

what happens?people run in to buy all the stuff they are trying to get rid of.so they can put the new stuff on the rack.it's an old trick companies do.same song different tune.but it gets people to think a certain way.it's a GAME.you got to know how to play it and recognize it.

mag lev................

[MattDark]

Actually, the european 60 GB PS3 never has the chips inside it for BC, it was an emulator from the very start.
Something about reducing the manufacuring costs while still over-charging europe.

[Dannagar]

Whether you agree with me or not, Playstation 3 software sales aren't so good. This may get more Playstation 3 owners to buy Playstation 3 games since they will no longer have the option of buying PS2 games.

[MattDark]

I know what you mean. Sony probably hope that trying to ignore BC completely may help their sales, problem is, alot of people want BC in their console, especially if they can only have a few consoles set up at once (As smart people would not just stick to a single console-type)

But I doubt this will help that much, the price still looks high, and the european version will probably cost more but will have nothing extra to it, probably having something taken out of it...

Wait this sounds familiar, oh yes, the european launch of the original PS3

[FF7numba1]

yes ps2 will be 100 dollars for xmas. Sony whats u guys to buy it and buy ps3 games for ps3.

[aiphanes]

A $399 40 gb PS3 with wifi, bluray, HDMI, bluetooth 2.0, and a wireless controller...cell processor RSX graphics chip...a super computer for $399....

[Eclipticus]

1) i dont want a supercomputer. Ive watched WARGAMES way to many times. I want to play a game, I so buy a game console.
2) if it was a supercomputer. It would let me install and play X-com series and Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 and the original Diablo. and the Original DEUS EX...SuperComputer I think Not.

Edit: How they hell do i get a disagree. WHat playing xcom/baldursgate/deus ex on the ps3 wouldnt be super? or did the qoute fly over eveyones head except Arkhams head?
Arkham my friend. If I am dating myself, and yet you know what I am talking about and thrown Forbin in there. what does that say....hmmmm...
CHOOSE A GAME . . .
TIC TAC TOE . . .

[Arkham]

"Want..to..play..a..game? " ;)

You're dating yourself, d00d. Heh.

Sometimes y'just have to ask yourself: WWFD?

('F' being 'Forbin', of course.)

[Arkham]

Heh! Yeah, I think I'm saying we're both getting kinda long in the tooth! ;)

Granted, I saw War Games first-run. I certainly wasn't around to see Colossus when it was in theatres. ;)

That's still one of the best all-time true SF movies.

Cheers!

[Fedorov]

1) Is this 40 gigabyte model being offered in North America too?
2) Why is the Ps3 $50 more in Canada compared to the US, while our dollar is stronger?
3) Why is Halo popular? It's just a bunch of spacemen prancing around in the year 3000, big deal.
(Don't respond to third question)

[QuackPot]

For the right price to migrant. Some will buy the 40G others will wait a little longer.

They have a Ps2 already so why the h3ll should they expect BC with a Ps3.

I did say they have a Ps2 already. 100% compatibility.

First a trickle then a torrent. Let the migration begin.

[JHFKDFNFGJKFHDKF]

BC is a big big deal in europe.

This thing will not sell well.

[jay2]

That's stupid. How many people play PS1 games on their console, None, What about PS2? ALOT, Sony you're selling the EU some cheap A@@ Wii and you expect us to be grateful? you should really consider you're option and move on with these rip-offs to, erm let me think WORLD WIDE

[DeZimatoR]

Why do you want the PS3 to fail?

Did Sony rape you when you were a kid? I mean come on, unless you have Microsoft or Nintendo shares there's no reason for you to want a company like Sony to fail...

Or maybe...maybe you are a no-life xbot. Just maybe ;)

Yo Mart, wanna play PS2 games on the PS3? Buy a PS3 for 400€ Isn't that cheaper then an Elite? I think it is...

[cpuchess]

I own a 360 and a Wii and if games I can't get on either one would be something I would want then I would consider getting a PS3

[resistance100]

Look at the titles its bringing out this xmas

COD4
HAZE
UT3 (possibly)
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Ratchet and Clank: TOD
Wipeout HD
GT5 Prologue
PES 2008
Assassains Creed {sp)
Eye of judgement
Folklore
Singstar
Time Crisis 4
Burnout Paradise
Army Of Two
Everybodies Golf 5

to name a few

Thats a decent line up in its self.

As for next wednesday in the UK you will be able to pick up a 40GB PS3 with a blu-ray player and Wifi for £10 less than a 360 with wifi adapter. If that isn't a good deal i don't know what is