Will some Xbox gamers jump ship to PS4

With Sony and Microsoft aiming to release consoles within close proximity of each other, the question is raised whether some Xbox gamers will switch over to PS4 instead of Xbox next.

[LOGICWINS]

Of course...just like some PS3 gamers will jump ship to the Xbox 720.

"I think the full title should really be. "Will they jump ship because Microsoft failed core gamers in the last years of Xbox 360"."

I think the full title should really be. "Will they jump ship because it is now known that Sony offers MORE varied exclusive titles on their gaming consoles than Microsoft does."

It is UNQUESTIONABLE that the PS3 offers more exclusive titles than the 360. No one can deny this. But that doesn't automatically mean that the 360 has failed core gamers. Core gamers love to play multiplatform games as well...and Microsoft has offered that in spades. You could even make the argument that the 360 is the core gamers console of choice since there is more weekly online activity on XBL than PSN.

We can't assume that core gamers MUST be interested in exclusives titles, because that simply isn't true.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

In my experience of owning a website video game forum, and visiting sites like this and others,.....

I've noticed that most 360 owners aren't as snobby, and have both or all three of the consoles, and pretty much just game.

But the PS3 hardcore fans, only do the Sony family, and only play on their PS3 or Sony product.

So I'd imagine yes, 360 fans will also buy a PS4, as well as their Nextbox, because they like to game. And obviously the PS4 will have great games when it comes out someday. But we're only half way in the Sony 10 Year plan, so Sony fans, there's no needs to worry about a PS4 coming out.

Right?

[Majin-vegeta]

* But we're only half way in the Sony 10 Year plan, so Sony fans, there's no needs to worry about a PS4 coming out.*

Jeezus christ how can so many people not understand that the 10 year life cycle for PS3 means that they will be supporting it doesn't mean they are gonna release the PS4 in 10 years.

[FragMnTagM]

Well said. I am not exclusively loyal to any one system. I enjoy laying games. Although the XBOX is my preferred console at the moment, I enjoy my PS3, PC, 3DS, and PSP.

Who's to say the next Playstation will or will not be my preferred console? We need to find out some specs and features before making these decisions.

[Biggest]

"Core gamers love to play multiplatform games as well...and Microsoft has offered that in spades."

Can you not see how that makes no sense? Microsoft didn't deliver ANYTHING on the multiplatform front. They received multiplatform games the same way the PS3 received them.

[grifter024]

Majin- So they are going to basically gave a slap in the face to all the people that bought a ps3?

Yeah they will keep supporting it but for how long? The ps2 was being supported for a long time but be serious how many people have you heard bragging and cheering that they just bought a brand new ps2?

[Abash]

I dont want a next gen console any time soon, but I have a lot more interest in a PS4 than a 720. I guess Im just a PlayStation gamer because I love Uncharted, inFamous, God of War, LittleBigPlanet, Killzone, Gran Turismo, Twisted Metal, Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, and Starhawk was just added to the list

[ApplEaglElephant]

Mostly because 360 had more exclusives 2007 to 2008.

And you have no clue calling PS3 fanboys "snobbier". 360 fanboys were beyond this world back in 2008. I once posted a thread asking if i should by PS3 back then and 360 fanboys swarmed the crap out it.

Funny thing is, not many people defended PS3 because they acknowledged that they lacked games back in 2008, but now 360 lacks exclusives desperately and 360 fanboys still defend to them to death.

in my experience, ive never seen fanboys that are so blind, fanatical and unreasonable as 360 fanboys. Just look around.

Only thing that has changed is that those 360 fanboys have nothing to brag about.

[slayorofgods]

The xbox and playstation are entering a new generation.......

A few gamers will upgrade blindly to the next console of their brand. But the vast majority are going to need a game or game library in order to upgrade. 300 - 500 bucks is a lot to drop, so most people are going to research which console is actually better more then just the name brand.

In a few years the 360 vs PS3 will be completely irrelevant.

[darthv72]

I know many may not afford the cost of gaming as a whole but it doesnt stay expensive forever. Just as there were plenty of PS2 gamers that bought into the 360 before the PS3 came out. There are quite a few PS3 gamers getting the 360 now.

Prices have come down to where it is affordable to play both (or all 3 if you count the wii). It may start off expensive (hardware) but at some point everyone feels comfortable in their own situation to step outside their zone and pick up the other platforms.

The whole "jump ship" thing is overblown.

[tehpees3]

It depends on how Microsoft go about things. If they do their casual focus they almost certainly will.

[sikbeta]

The online community on Xbox is huge, don't think they'll swap, for that N or Sony need to do all what MS Live does and for Free, not seeing it happening...

[Brosy]

The 360 has kept me satisfied. I have had no desire to buy a PS3. So they have more exclusives, most are mediocre and don't sell well anyway. 360 has Live and it's much better than PSN. Not to mention multiplats perform better on the 360.

It would be a screw up by Microsoft rather than anything Sony can do, that would make me go for a PS4. Like if MS went too casual. I guess though if Sony tried trojan horsing another expensive media format with the PS4 would cause me not to buy a PS4 as well. I'm just not a Sony fan any longer. They are too crooked, inefficient, and full of sh*t. I also detest sony fanboys they are another reason I don't care for sony. Most are emo, japanophiles, that have a weird lust for anything sony.

Meanwhile I can look forward to hot graphics, exclusive content, all playing on the world class Live.It's hard to beat the best and I don't think sony can do it.

[EVILDEAD360]

The Next box is in a way better position than the original Xbox was 6-7 years ago.

The millions and millions of core 360 gamers who spend 100s of hours playing their favorite games on the 360, earned achievemnets, have huge friends lists, love playing the 360 exclusives and multi-plats over Live simply arent going to drop their account and everything they have accrued over the years just because the PS4 is in stores.

Many eventually may own a Wii-U or a PS4, but early adopters of both the 360 and the S4 will be the core base.

If Kinect stays smoking hot and is somehow improved or upgraded next gen then 720 will have adoption from a wide range of gamers as well.

Especially, if this Windows 8 vision comes to fruition.

Evil

[baodeus]

@applegle...

Fanboy just don't see anything period, regardless if they are x360/ps3 fanboy. There is no better or worst fanboy. They changes tones or reaction depend on how their console of choice are doing.

[mindedone]

"I've noticed that most 360 owners aren't as snobby, and have both or all three of the consoles, and pretty much just game."

Wouldn't that make them PS3 owners as well? If most 360 owners are PS3 owners, and there are more 360 owners than PS3 owners, that mathematically means that most PS3 owners are 360 owners, and aren't as snobby as PS3 owners, and have both or all three of the consoles, and pretty much just game.

[moparful99]

@Endoran "I've noticed that most 360 owners aren't as snobby, and have both or all three of the consoles, and pretty much just game."

Do you not see how this is a contradiction?? Why cant it be ps3 owners choosing to own the other two console? Its obvious where your allegiances lie and I can actually offer proof in the contrary.. I have a rather large group of close friends and most of them own 360's, they heckle me and generally talk trash about the ps3 despite knowing very little about them.. They still have this perception that the ps3 doesn't have ne games.. But this Small slice of the 360 populace does not reflect the entire fanbase as a whole..

I love how you throw out sterotypes to defend your console of choice.. Your comment only belies the fact that you are no better then the "sony snobs" that you are condemning...

[NegativeCreepWA]

As far as fan boys go, I see it like this.

PC = Snobby
PS= Belligerent
360= just like to talk s#%t for the heck of it or to make PS fan boys throw fits.

[Kurt Russell]

I'll probably buy all the next gen consoles... starting with the one that is out first.

[MysticStrummer]

You got a Well Said for that? Amazing. PS3 owners must be snobby because they only own that console, huh? It couldn't possibly be that they don't feel they need another because PS3 fills their gaming needs just fine? Your understanding of the 10 year plan is also comical, but sure... well said... ffs. EDIT - lol I didn't even think about mindedone's mathematical point. THAT deserves a Well Said.

[DA_SHREDDER]

I can't imagine anyone that I know, even people who own a 360, who would give up their free psn and sick exclusives for a third party machine. Get good noobs.

[Solid_Snake37]

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[Hercules189]

does the ps3 have halo or gears. the killzone series will never be able to match the content that halo has. and uncharted is a decent game but doesnt have the longevity of gears. so even though microsoft doesnt have as much exclusives as ps3 the ones they do are so much more focused on giving you more bang for your buck

[BlackTar187]

"does the ps3 have halo or gears. the killzone series will never be able to match the content that halo has. and uncharted is a decent game but doesnt have the longevity of gears. so even though microsoft doesnt have as much exclusives as ps3 the ones they do are so much more focused on giving you more bang for your buck "

What? How determines bang for buck? The fact that more kids play Gears of war= more bang for buck? I bet i can get into a U2 room with no problmes and play for along time. Just grasping at straws here

[lastdual]

And yet, look at the early years of the PS3. There was a time when MS had plenty of exclusives and "PS3 has no games" was the common conception, but people still bought PS3s. They loved their PS2s, and trusted Sony to eventually get things together.

I wouldn't underestimate brand loyalty. There are plenty who like Live, prefer the 360 controller to the dualshock, etc. MS certainly has more fans now than they did with the original Xbox. Plus they'll likely pump up the number of exclusives for the first few years following console launch, as that's when exclusive software has the biggest impact.

Some people will jump ship, some people will buy every console, and some people will drop out of gaming altogether, but there's no way MS is in a weaker position today than 6 years ago.

[SSultan]

Lol@DA_SHREDDER, Just lol.

[WetN00dle69]

LMFAO!!!!!!
Nice one, you should do stand up comedy!

[trenso1]

@Hercules189 is it possible to not talk about halo and gears when you defend the 360 on exclusives?

[gamingdroid]

Core gamers "care about games", not just "exclusives while ignoring multiplatform games" so I don't think that is an issue at all.

If it was, we would have seen a significant shift already, but the latest WW sales numbers says otherwise.

[dcbronco]

Stop making sense. That doesn't fly here.

I actually think the reason people have concentrated on Kinect is because it's new tech. But I believe the next Xbox will really open up it's ability. MS was trying to open up new markets just like Nintendo did. I don't own a Kinect, but the footage from ME3 makes me consider it. It seems to work really smoothly. Kinect will be used for more hardcore games and a lot of this will go away.

But I think another reason MS doesn't have a lot of exclusives is that they weren't expecting a 7 or 8 year cycle. No one was. Rumors have been out there for years that games for the 360 have been moved to the next generation. I think they are working on a one year head start again over Sony with a polished, extensive and varied group of launch titles. Things that will push ten million consoles in the first year.

[Biggest]

"Core gamers "care about games", not just "exclusives while ignoring multiplatform games" so I don't think that is an issue at all."

So core gamers care about games, but not about more games? Obviously they won't ignore multiplatform games. But using the statement you made, wouldn't it make sense that core gamers would want to have more games? Or do they only care about some games? How does it work?

[PetitPiPi]

Biggest

Most gamers have no need for 10 games a year. It's the people with nothing else better to do that need 50 games a year. I have the perfect word to describe these people but this is obviously not the place to do so. Are you one of these people Biggest? ;)

[StrongMan]

Uh, you do know Kinect and it's games ARE exclusives........right?

[sikbeta]

Exclusives DO matter, thing is when they matter? at the beginning of every generation and first few years, that's when those game drive sales and make consumers jump in

Want an example? GT3, Gran Turismo 3 was available right after the PS2 lauch, what it did for the console is well known, that's what Sony forgot

No one is going to buy a PS3 for, let say, TM 5 years from launch because there are so many games out there that just only one exclusive doesn't make a difference.

That's something SCE needs to realize and by the next launch be sure to use those 20 Studios for good and have exclusives available right away, so people don't have to wait at least a year to play something good (Drake's Fortune for PS3 in this case)

But Heavenly Sword? yeah, right, totally worth buying a $600 console for a 4hs game, but R:FOM? because playing the same game for a year, not because you want it so much, but beacse there is nothing else, totally worth, come on people

You can love PlayStation and all, but you cannot defend every wrong they make

[gamingdroid]

@biggest

***So core gamers care about games, but not about more games? Obviously they won't ignore multiplatform games. But using the statement you made, wouldn't it make sense that core gamers would want to have more games?***

I think they do, but only when the offering is slim to begin with. As it is now, there are far too many games released on an annual basis in addition to the hundreds of games that are already out there.

I also believe gamers care more about quality, than quantity. An example of this for me is Gears of War 3. I have been playing it non-stop online since release and probably won't stop playing it for some time. That means, there is little time for other games, because it brings such a quality experience to keep me busy for so long.

Only recently did I pick up Mass Effect again in anticipation of ME3. I still have a huge backlog of games including Rage, Uncharted, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Dead Space 2, KZ3, Halo: CEA, Gunstringer and a host of other games. Even if I narrow that list of backlogs to one platform, I still have far too many to play for the next coming year.

So do I care that there are more games released? Probably not at all unless it is very unique.... I'm swamped, and if you all aren't, you likely have a lot of time on your hand or have a very narrow taste in games.

[MrBeatdown]

@gamingdroid

"I think they do, but only when the offering is slim to begin with. As it is now, there are far too many games released on an annual basis in addition to the hundreds of games that are already out there."

That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it. Not every game is for everyone, and just because a good game is out there, it doesn't mean people wouldn't rather play a better one or one in a genre they prefer. There's plenty of quality games out there I don't play, not because I don't have time, but because I don't have any interest in them.

I love arcade racers. I get one more on PS3 because of MotorStorm. I love open world games as well, so I had Infamous 2 to play this year. Even with all the games out there, I'd take that arcade racer over just about any shooter. I'd have a good enough selection if neither ever existed, but I'm happier because they do.

And there's tons of quality shooters out there like Battlefield or Call of Duty, but I'm playing Crysis 2 right now. I would have been happy playing either of the first two, but I'm enjoying that third, less obvious choice far more. Did I need EA to release that third option? No. I would have had a ton to play without it. But I wouldn't be better off without it.

The "we don't need it" idea could apply to every game everyone has ever asked for. Do we need GTAV, Resident Evil 6, Halo 4, Last of Us, Assassin's Creed 3, or any other big game this year? No. I need them like I need a hole in the head. I'm sure both you and I have plenty to play without them. But clearly, more choice and variety is better and those games are going to the top of a lot of people's to-buy lists regardless of how much time or how big of a backlog we have.

As long as the games can find an audience and a decent amount of success, I don't see the point in saying what we have now is good enough, or trying to draw a line between what is and what isn't necessarily, when it could always be better and provide more choice and variety.

[kaveti6616]

My biggest problem with PS3 fanboys is when they say that 360 gamers have "no games to play."

They're right when they say that the PS3 has more games and better games, is a reliable, more powerful machine, a better value with more options, etc. But when they say that 360 gamers have "no games to play," I don't know, it just sort of raises my blood pressure.

360 fanboys should stop pretending that PS3 gamers can't play multiplatform titles (except the one or two that are unplayable like Skyrim, which isn't very good on 360, either), and PS3 fanboys should stop pretending that 360 gamers have no games to play. Sure, PS3 exclusives are great, but let's not pretend that 360 only owners are wondering what to play on their 360s.

I hate the "my 360 is collecting dust" claim as well. First of all, your console collects dust whether you use it or not. Secondly, if you really don't see yourself using your 360 anytime soon, get rid of it. Sell it or throw it away. Stop letting the world know that you're a remorseful consumer.

[moparful99]

Most of the "core" gamers that you are identifying in this response already have at least one or the other while the rest have both.. If core gamers were flocking to the 360 as you are implying then why did the 360 get bullied in sales up until the christmas shopping season?? The only logical explanation for this is kinect.. Microsoft knew that they had "tapped" the core audience and decided to pursue the casual market and its showing.. Lack of original first party exclusives.. They've been pushing kinect very hard and for the most part kinect games are casual affairs and the only "core" elements of kinect are voice commands in games like ME3 and Ghost recon... Its fair to say that we're seeing role reversals.. Sony whent from being the "all around" device to the "core" device.. There's nothing wrong with that revelation but people make this whole ordeal out to be a bigger even then it really is.. The truth is both consoles are alive and well and will survive the entire span of this generation...

[gamingdroid]

@moparful99

***If core gamers were flocking to the 360 as you are implying then why did the 360 get bullied in sales up until the christmas shopping season??***

Earlier in the year, the Xbox 360 actually had the lead WW as well. Over the summer, Sony gained some ground, then lost it again during Christmas despite a price cut in August.

That said, MS penetration in the US market among the core is pretty much tapped at this point so yeah, they are going after the casual market which makes sense. They are now prepping a new console for the core in 2013 it seems (at least I'm convinced).

***They've been pushing kinect very hard and for the most part kinect games are casual affairs and the only "core" elements of kinect are voice commands in games like ME3 and Ghost recon...***

Well, MS is trying to push the upcoming Fable: The Journey as well as Ryse. They have attempted others, that wasn't very successful.

However, I think they also face the stigma attached with Kinect. A lot of the games are fun, but it seems many core gamers are sensitive to how they look when playing....

***Sony whent from being the "all around" device to the "core" device..***

That isn't really surprising, as their price wouldn't really fly with the casual audience. They were essentially forced to capture the core market.

***The truth is both consoles are alive and well and will survive the entire span of this generation...***

I couldn't agree more! In fact, the situatio is the best it has ever been and I hope it continues like this in the next generation in terms of WW marketshare. Competition is very healthy and produced so much innovation this generation.

@dredgewalker

Because your PC isn't a console in experience

If you count exclusives, the PC actually by far has the most of any system. Yet, it isn't the "go to" for gaming these days is it?

[dredgewalker]

If a console doesn't have any exclusive games then why should I buy a console when I can play everything on my pc?

[dredgewalker]

@Droid

The pc doesn't need to be the "go to" gaming system because it is an important part of the modern household. It's only logical to have one gaming system if every system out there offers the same thing, but the pc will always offer the superior version of a multiplat game if you have a decent rig. Though I do agree with the advantage of the simplicity of operating a console and there are games that I can only play with friends whenever we have our fighting and racing sessions. Anyway this is just my personal opinion since the console community here is small compared to the pc community. In relevance to the topic, I think brand loyalty must never be underestimated so I don't think many xbox users will shift to Sony.

[TBM]

No need to jump for me since im buying it day one. i will have to decide whether im getting the next 360 or whatever its gonna be called

[MariaHelFutura]

IMO, if you can afford it... buy all the next gen consoles as soon as possible to avoid missing ANY of the gaming gems our industry has to offer. If you had to pick just one I would say a PS. Why? Because Sony OWNS the most and some of the best developers in the industry. Their platforms will rarely have a shortage of exclusive games past the launch window, do to OWNING 20+ studios only making games for their platform. Asides from that.... Buy them all, so you don't miss ANYTHING.

[antz1104]

Very true. Say what you want but I think it will come down to price point for most gamers even if they wont admit it.

[TheTwelve]

Forgive me for sounding perhaps ignorant. But I think all it came down to was who came out with the acceptable quality first. The 360 is NOT a better console than the PS3, but it came out long before the PS3. This was a HUGE factor.

We forget that the masses like new and cool things, and will buy things just for that reason. (That's why the Wii blew up the world when it first came out...something "new".) That's why every system updates and re-packages itself through its lifetime.

Of course, simply being "first", "new" and "cool" won't keep something alive in and of itself, and Microsoft has done an excellent job maintaining the impression that it is "ahead" of the PS3 in everyway. Getting DLC first with big games is a HUGE part of portraying that image. (And this is why the Wii isn't much of a big deal anymore...the "new" effect wasn't built upon and has faded).

If Sony can make sure not to lag behind the 720 release too much, AND come out from the outset with their exclusive muscle, Sony wins. Period. I see no other way and brand loyalty won't be the deciding factor.

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[moparful99]

Well what you are saying is half true.. Here in america the first impression is the most important because people will flock to the "accepted" Product despite flaws.. Just look at the smartphone market.. Apple has that market on lock despite having a more restrictive device.. Android devices are much more flexible and in some instances better quality but the apple has the advantage of being first to market and becoming the standard.. Other parts of the world are very different though and all of this is evidenced by the disparity in sales around the world.. Sony owns every region except for north america but american consumers would have you believe that if you dont own america you already have one foot in the grave.. Its just the way people percieve things..

[Thatguy-310]

Just depends how Sony decides to tackle down online gaming. It's evident that it's the only factor that ppl still prefer the 360 over ps3. It's possible but like logicwins states, why not just be a multi console owner? Most likely that will be the case.

[TENTONGUN]

im going to own both consoles, skiping the wiiu of course. im 32 years old and have been waiting for this console gen most of my life. almost here and i will own it all

[BlackTar187]

Brosy
"So they have more exclusives, most are mediocre and don't sell well anyway."

SMH at you for that. Problem with xbox generation sales SALES SALES SALES SALES

Just to add how much did you make on your MS stock this year?

Logi
"'Why would Microsoft ruin what is obviously working by taking a risk on a new IP?' "

this is so sad but if your okay with that then i guess Jakes on you

[chriski333]

i have both consoles i play on both but we shall see what sony and microsoft bring to the table

[SSultan]

I don't care when it comes to exclusives which is why I switched to the 360. Tired of all the hype that comes with exclusives when they all bored me to death and ultimately let me down.

[otherZinc]

Halo, Gears, Fable, Live & Forza are coming to the PS4!
NO!?
Then hell no!

[princejb134]

i can go both ways
ps4 to xb720 or xb720 to ps4
i know alot of people jumped ship from ps2 to 360

[geddesmond]

I'm actually jumping ship from PS3 to the Next Xbox or Wii U if the thing has adult games and not just a dozen or so. If Nintendo cater to kids yet again then I'm just getting the next Xbox. Sony are not the company they used to be and as a 15 year long loyal platstation fan I hate the company now.

[im_right]

After M$ said they gave up on making new game IPs I think most 360 owners would jump to PS4. If they want new games that is and not 3 more Halo and Gears games.

http://n4g.com/news/924990/...

[Gamer Muzz]

I'll jump ship. I love the 360. it's my console of choice this Gen. But lets face it. the attack on used games that the industry is pushing is insane.
If other consoles offer me the option to play used games, then I'll be glad to support them instead.

[Gamer Muzz]

And queue the fanboys.

A great many of the biggest AAA titles this gen have been Multiplatform (Madden, battlefield, Modern warfare, assassins creed, skyrim, MVC3, ETC.
outside of that, PS3, 360, and Wii have each had some great exclusives.
That kind of fanboy mentality is really sickening. especially considering that's not at all what this article is about to begin with.
Exclusives will have very little to do with people's decisions not to support a console that could potentially lock out used game titles. Keep it on topic please.

[IHateYouFanboys]

@LOGICWINS: "It is UNQUESTIONABLE that the PS3 offers more exclusive titles than the 360. No one can deny this."

you can actually. looking at the TOTAL list of exclusive games for both the PS3 and 360, the 360 is still ahead iirc. Just because Sony has had more in the last 2 years doesnt mean Microsoft didn't have more in the 4 years before that.

and again, it all comes back to the QUALITY and public want for those exclusives. out of all of the PS3 exclusives over the last 2 years, only 2-3 have interested me. i dont care for ratchet and clank, move games, or linear cutscene-a-thons. killzone 3 and GT5 were my only PS3 exclusive purchases iirc, and GT5 was thrown in the drawer after 2 weeks never to be played again.

I'm a "Core Gamer" (i hate these stupid terms - a gamer is a gamer), owning 100+ games this generation, and double that for the previous 2 generations each. you wont find any move/kinect/wii party games in my collection either, only what people on here consider "core" games - funny how the term "Core gamer" has taken over from "Hardcore gamer" in the last ~12 months. guess the internet kiddies who use the term realised that calling themselves hardcore gamers made them sound like what they really are - kids.

anyway, even with all the PS3 exclusives, 99% of the games ive bought have been multiplatform. Crysis 2, Battlefied 3, Rock Band 3, Rayman Origins, Arkham City, Skyrim, Portal 2, etc etc. All of these are BETTER than the PS3 exclusives IMO, and in most critics opinions too. so really, having those exclusives means all of "not much at all" to the PS3. and despite the 360 having less exclusives last year, i bought more of them than i did PS3 ones. funny that. quality over quantity.

[RaidensRising]

Microsoft has kinda dropped the ball this last year with Kinect versus core gamers so I expect some will jump over unless Sony have an extortionate high entry price for the PS4 compared to Xbox 720.

@logicwins.

I think the full title should really be. "Will they jump ship because Microsoft failed core gamers in the last years of Xbox 360".

[LOGICWINS]

Here's the thing: When multiplatform games like COD and Madden continue to sell the way they do, the urgency to create exclusive Xbox franchises dwindles. It makes more business sense to simply to spend buttloads of money to advertise a multiplatform franchise that you KNOW that will sell(COD), instead of taking a risk on a new IP that 360 owners may not like.

360 users have yet to vote with their dollars to protest the 360's lack of exclusives. The 360, after having been on the market for more than half a decade, has JUST had its best sales quarter yet. Clearly the majority of 360 gamers(at least in the U.S) are happy with the current system of two or three exclusives a year and a plethora of multiplatform games.

Why would Microsoft ruin what is obviously working by taking a risk on a new IP? If people want more exclusives, then why not just buy a PS3?

[dumahim]

They know the multiplats will sell well because they have the larger installed userbase. That may not be the case on the next generation. What is MS going to do to bring the core gamers back in the next round? If PS takes a commanding lead, MS cannot rely on multiplats.

[GroundsKeeperJimbo]

@Dumahim
I feel that the lack is most likely from Devs focusing on sequels and new IPs for the next Xbox/PS3. Sony's just been coping better because they have the bigger number of active studios. Just a thought.

[dumahim]

@ GroundsKeeperJimbo

Yeah, that's probably playing a part of it but I don't know if that'll be enough. A lot has changed this generation. MS has sold off developers and I can't even remember the last one they acquired. Also, former exclusive devs have been going multiplatform for bigger sales.

As it looks right now, I just don't see a big turn-around for exclusives on the Xbox.

[Jobesy]

@Logic, I agree, which is why whoever releases first with the next gen titles like COD, BF, Madden, etc will likely take the bigger chunk of the core audience. MS knows this, and if Sony didn't learn their lesson from this gen shame on them. Release date and pricing will determine the victor.

[DebateMaster]

Some people like my friends wont buy a ps3 because most of them have 360s.

[GarandShooter]

'Why would Microsoft ruin what is obviously working by taking a risk on a new IP?'

Seriously? How exactly would investing in a new IP deter people from buying those multiplats?

[LOGICWINS]

"Seriously? How exactly would investing in a new IP deter people from buying those multiplats?"

Where in my comment did I say that investing in a new IP would deter people from buying multiplats on the 360? Please I'm eager to know.

The "risk" I'm referring to is the loss of a financial opportunity. For example:

Is it better to spend $10 million on a new IP that may or may not sell?

OR

spend $10 million on advertising for 3 or 4 high profile multiplats that are guaranteed to sell(COD, GTA, Madden) in order to guarantee that most people will buy these games on the 360 as opposed to the PS3.

[raytraceme]

Just goes to show how gaming is not what is was back in the ps2 era. Really logic marketing is better for who? Microsoft yea but how about gamers??? Gamers want more games that differ from others and sony is the one doing that for the past 3 years. All xbox has been bringing out is shooters, and kinect games. This generation has been brainwashed by microsoft into thinking mare sales is better. Also that $8.5 billion microsoft payed for skype is going well for xbox isn't it instead of investing in lets say $50million/8.5 billion= #of aaa games.

[Stuart5756]

That won't happen, it will be reasonably priced with an excellent launch lineup. I dread to think what the next Xbox launch lineup would be. Fable 4 perhaps, a load of kinect 2 crap?

[Gearshead75]

Interesting, especially since I know plenty of 360 owners that jumped ship early on because of the hardware problems. Some have come back, but for the most part they have stayed with their PS roots.

Since it will be released 1st there is no doubt some 360 owners will purchase it, but there is also that loyal group that will stay M$ for various reasons. This is just what happened when the PS3 and 360 came out.

As for me I'm a multiplatform owner so I will get both in due time. That is why it is better to be a true console gamer instead of a fanboi that thinks one is so much better than the other.

[frelyler]

I first bought a 360,it died before they started with the new warranty. That really rubbed me the wrong way and I have not looked back. Sure I'm sad I missed gears 2 and 3, but now that Alan Wake is coming to PC there are only two reasons to own an xbox for me and my tastes, but not enough to make me buy another one. Based on what happened to me in 06 and how Microsoft handled it, I will never again buy a first or even second Gen system from them because I learned my lesson and unfortunately corporations are notoriously bad at learning lessons and instead just pass the buck to the consumer. No thanks.

[MariaHelFutura]

Same thing happened to me. But, eventually I got over it and bought another one. Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Lost Oddessy, L4D1 and Tales Of Vesperia made it worth it. Ill be buying the Witcher 2 for it at some point aswell.

[frelyler]

@marialHelFutura

Yeah, clearly I can hold a grudge, it just really pissed me off. If I did not have a PC to play L4D1&2, The witcher series, or ME series then I would probably have broken down and bought one, but I'm fortunate enough to be able to have a decent PC. Also, how can someone disagree with a personal experience I had that is factual based?

[PC_Enthusiast]

Gearshead75 who said the ps4 won't be out at the same time as the nextbox???!!

[Gearshead75]

Ummmm....nobody I was just saying that if it was it would happen. I was only speculating, I take it you are ominpresent and know all. So please do tell which is being released first.

[moparful99]

I_OWN_YOU Calm down man he's was just being speculative.. For once someone can have an objectional opinion so just appreciate that.. I actually agree with him.. In north america timing and price is the most important thing.. Sony had a trifecta of bad luck with the ps3.. Launched a year after the 360, had a lackluster catalog, and was very expensive relatively speaking.. But sony being the company they are found a way to drive costs down, improve performance (smaller UI footprint and internal dev kit) and bolstered their already stellar first party partners.. Today we are reaping the rewards of that extra effort.. We have a cheaper, better performing ps3 with a huge catalog of amazing games and a free online service that stands out on its own..

@Gearshead it's omniscient by the way :D
Omnipresent is being all encompassing..

[DrFUD]

I don't know. This might sound trivial but for me the thing I feel keeps me as a customer is great customer service.
I like being able to speak to someone from my own country when I call customer service.
I always found it funny that the company from Japan allows me to do that while the American company outsources it's helpline to Asia and explaining a problem to someone who doesn't even speak English as their main language is usually another problem on top of the one already.

[hellvaguy]

"American company outsources it's helpline to Asia and explaining a problem to someone who doesn't even speak English"

Another flimsy arguement from a psfanboy. Ive called MS several times and all have been native english speakers and Ive received top notch service.

[kaveti6616]

Sony outsources, too. Most tech companies outsource their jobs because they seek a cheaper labor source so they can report higher profits. It's a capitalism thing, not solely attributable to Microsoft.

[remanutd55]

i have never owned an xbox before but if microsoft comes out with a franchise that really gets my attention then i will be getting the next xbox , they came really close with Alan Wake this generation and the wii u better bring something new besides Zelda or no buy from me , sony well thats a given so i might end up owning all consoles next gen lol , i dont know if im gonna have the time to play them all though

[Why o why]

alan wake is worth giving the 360 a punt for. No live needed as its single player so no running costs. Im sure theres more games out there worth buying a 360 for but im not the best to tell ya as i still have a few older games to try out like lost odyssey

I wont jump ship as im already on the other boat. The better question may be will either console get bought at launch. Ill grab a ps but will see what games are available for the nextbox especially if both are released around the same time

[remanutd55]

i've tried Alan Wake for like an hour or so and then decided not to buy it but im pretty sure if i can play the franchise on the next xbox plus another game that catch my attention i will most likely get it ,same goes to nintendo wii u if Zelda comes out and another great game too then i will get it too

[moparful99]

Mass effect 2 was the game that almost made me take the 360 plunge but EA announced it for the ps3 before that happened.. I'm a huge God of War nut and there's nothing on the 360 outside of dante's inferno that comes close to God of War so there really isn't antything tempting me right now.. If I get one it will be so I can play with all of my xbox owning friends.. I just dont want to pay for live..

[akaFullMetal]

alan wake is coming to pc, so you could wait to use that then.

[NYC_Gamer]

owners of both brands will jump ship to experience the different exclusives

[hellvaguy]

The forum title here should say will a majority sony biased website bite on this article or no? Insert biased arguements, stealth troll, repeat and rinse.

[mamotte]

And so, thanks to many fans, a new pointless console war starts without the consoles even being announced. Stay classy, N4G.

[hellzsupernova]

its not just N4G though its every gaming website nowdays it 3DS vs PSVita, PC verses everybody, this never happened in the days of ps1 and N64, ive only noticed it since the ps2 and xbox generations

[Ducky]

It happened in the PS1/N64 generation.
It happened even before that.

You just didn't have a popular medium for people to anonymously behave like retards.

[The Meerkat]

If they redesign the controller I might.
And if they make games that make me shout "F### Yeah" at the screen like Gears of War does.

But i'd still need a 720 for Halo

[SignifiedSix]

Why would they redesign one of the best controllers in gaming history? The only thing i could think of is the DPad and the deadzone on the analog sticks.
Otherwise its pretty much untouchable.
I know I'll be getting flamed for this, but oh well. Its true!

[DebateMaster]

lol you just called it one of the best in history and listed 2 horrible faults.

[hellzsupernova]

whats rong with the dpad its the best on any console out atm my only prob is the R2 L2 and it could be a bit more ergonomic

[cstyle]

maybe, but one thing for sure is that some ps fans jumped ship to xbox this gen.

[panbit86]

HELL YEAH! Why? PS Games in 3 words: Quality-Quantity-Variety

[fooxy]

Spare this shit for us please

[ZippyZapper]

panbit86 you kinda need to own an Xbox first before you can switch.

[dumahim]

This has me thinking now. I've been buying all the consoles for the last few generations, but I'm going to break that habit this time around and skip the Nintendo offering. Both the GC and Wii I hardly ever used. Until I see reason otherwise, I'm going to skip it.

So what about the next Xbox? What is MS going to offer to bring me in as a customer that the PlatStation can't offer? Shooters? Bored of em. Forza? I probably enjoy a bit more than GT, but I'm not going to buy a console for it. Online services? I almost never play online, so that's not a real draw either. Kinect sure has no appeal to me.

[hellzsupernova]

so you will buy a ps4 then?

[kma2k]

what happens if we are both 360 & ps3 gamers?

[Detoxx]

Im just gonna buy the better console.. So, probably PS4

[Siren30]

I'll get both and let the fanboys with nothing better to do fight over which one is better

[irepbtown]

I'd love to buy both, but my bet is they'll be very expensive.

So I'll buy the PS4 and after a couple of years, the 720.

[thedude44]

word up

[badkolo]

if this new xbox rumor is true then yes, and its hitting main stream media today as real news, 6 times more powerful using outdated hardware just wont cut it, sony has the ball in their court and could come in for the kill now.

this new xbox news has me dissapointed.

[badkolo]

last gen they where touting how powerful the cards where compared to what was available at the time, now for this new gen coming they are talking about using old gfx cards, total flop in my book

[Pintheshadows]

The rumour is a 6670 I believe. I understand the powers a bit easier to get at in a console but even optimised that is a mid range card at best. My PC has two GTX 570's in it for gods sake. I was expecting a lot more than 6 times more powerful.

See what Sony has to offer I guess. If it's in the same bracket (underpowered) then i'll stick to PC Gaming for a bit. Been a while since I played some strategy games.

[JellyJelly]

I will buy whatever console attracts me the most with its games and hardware. I don't care if it's made by Sony or MS.

[MGRogue2017]

I own both PS3/X360 & I currently play all of my online multiplayer titles on my PS3 'cause of the free online MP.. so if Sony continues to have free online MP for PS4 as well.. then I'm sticking with them for my online MP.

However, If Microsoft chooses to have Xbox Live free on Xbox Next (which I highly doubt will happen).. then I shall "jump ship"

I'll most likely own both consoles at some point though.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Sticking to the Xbox. Its a possibility that I'll be able to switch over my profile along with my friends and gamerscore. Don't need a PlayStation.

[admiralthrawn87]

just stop the fanboy war before it starts this time. of course if that happens most troll/fanboys on here will snap back into reality and realize they have no life outside of trolling forums

[girevik]

I'll have to wait and see what each console has to offer. If the price is right and the games are awesome I'll buy it! :)

[NoobJobz]

Well that depends. I saw a rumor on some site saying that the next Xbox wouldn't play used games. Not saying I believe it but if that happened then yes. 99% of games I play are used.

Actually I'm gonna say that there is 0% chance of that happening. That would be the end of them, if they did that.

[supremacy]

That all depends on certain variables and timing.

1. Psn would have to improve a twofold to not only match but also potentially exceed xbox live. Its not that one is free and the other is not.

Its about the infastructure of each network that carries more weight than price. Sony would not only need to make psn more intuitive but also a mainstream brand of its own through marketing.

Psn on the vita is a vast improvement, offerrering cross game chat, cross platform play ect. But these are things that can easily be address if the right memory pool is assemble for the ps4. Looking at the vita, ill say thats a check.

In addition to all this,Sony needs to start off by bundling headsets with the ps4 and have developers follow certain guidelines and requests so that no feature goes unoticed or missed. Cross platform play is a must on all ports and so is party chat.

2. Price, Sony(regardless of how powerful the ps4 may be) needs to make sure they match their rivals tag and release date as well.

3. Marketing, sony needs to be aggressive and yet simple with their messege. Not over the top or controversial.

4. Keep building on your first party content, but also aim for short term exclusivity deals for major releases like call of duty, resident evil, final fantasy and grand theft auto.

5. Make the dualshock more shooter friendly, a bit bulkier and feature actual triggers. This will entice many for sure. Though personally I love the ds3 the way it is.

6. Make the ps4 a faster machine, with faster disc read speeds and loading times.

[EVILDEAD360]

Essentially make it like the 360 is what your saying.

Which I guess goes for the 360 if the rumored Blu Ray comes to fruition on 720.

Evil

[supremacy]

Exactly, Sony needs to look at 360's appeal and make it their own while also keeping and staying true to their core userbase with aggressive first party support and free network.

PlayStation isnt meant to be alien, but what sets it apart is variety. If they can stay true to that, while managing to optain on its rivals advantages, than they can and most likely will have many thinking of switching.

But why switch? Why not have both or all three, that is if you can afford them all.

[MrBeatdown]

A PlayStation with those improvements would "essentially make it like the 360"? Wow. That might be true, if supremacy added a few more things to his list...

7. Non-standard hard drives
8. Proprietary, overpriced accessories
9. Online fees and dashboard ads
10. Years of terrible hardware reliability

Sorry Evil, but it's not as sunny in 360 land as you seem to think it is. There's just as much MS could learn from the PS3 as Sony can learn from the 360.

[EVILDEAD360]

'Sorry Evil, but it's not as sunny in 360 land as you seem to think it is. There's just as much MS could learn from the PS3 as Sony can learn from the 360.'

LOL @ you being sooo sensitive because I told the truth.

Whose pretending Micrsoft or Sony didn't make mistakes this gen.

As B-hurt as you are even Supremacy who WROTE the comment agrees that is what he meant by it.

Only you fantasy console war fighters like yourself believe that Micrsoft didn't learn from the RROD on their own.

Do you REALLY think Microsoft regrets charging for Live? I love when people bashed Xbox Live constantly then LITERALLY ate their words and praised PSN Plus the day it was announced. LMAO

Keep fightiing your war..hope you believe yout winning..lol

Evil

[MrBeatdown]

See, there you go again. You have your own little version of the "truth".

You obviously replied to his comment, not to further the conversation, but to point out how if the PS3 was to improve, it would become more like the 360. And then you brought up the next Xbox, as if making it "like the 360" bodes well for it. Knowing you, the guy who regurgitates MS PR in the comments, it's pretty clear you were just using this opportunity to play cheerleader for the 360. And even funnier is the fact that many of the things supremacy mentioned, like better marketing, faster Blu-Ray speed, matching your competitors' price tags, and improving first party content aren't things that define the 360 any more than any other console.

Your "truth" blatantly ignores that "making it like to the 360" comes with as many negatives as it does positives. Hell, your comment even referenced Blu-Ray, which just goes to show, making the next Xbox "more like the PS3" is "essentially" what Microsoft should do, right?

And did I say Microsoft regrets charging for Live? No. Did I imply it? Nope, didn't do that either. That's you either putting words in my mouth, or failing to get the point. Of course MS are happy with it. They even raised the price and slapped more ads on the dashboard. It doesn't mean charging for what is essentially a universal online pass (something radically different fom PS+, I might add) probably isn't at the top of many people's "must have" features list for next-gen consoles. I'm sure Microsoft loves charging absurd prices for accessories as well. It doesn't mean gamers like the practice. But you seem more than content to defend any MS practice as long as it works for the shareholders, regardless of how crappy it is for the gamers, aren't you?

Oh, and you're taking my "learn from each other" comment far too literally. Obviously, it's each console's fans telling the company what they want and don't want. Much like how fans told Microsoft for years to get a handle on their hardware problems.

It's cute that you justify your entire comment on the basis that supremacy agreed with you. He probably agrees with the basic idea that the PS3 should be more like the 360, in certain aspects, but he's probably not as delusional as you in believing that the 360 is the glowing definition of gaming perfection that all should strive for, and wasn't aware of the fact that your intent was to stealth troll.

I'm sure he, or anyone not deluded by their own bias would agree that neither console represents the overall direction both Sony and MS should strive for, and that the best console will be from the manufacturer that can balance the strengths of each, and eliminate the many weaknesses each platform has.

You keep kidding yourself that I'm fighting some war. I'm not in the comments playing cheerleader for Microsoft on a website that all the 360 trolls claim is a PS3 fanboy haven. Common sense, logic, and reason is more my thing. It just so happens that it's more fun to use it on the people who blatantly disregard it.

[EVILDEAD360]

Ding Ding Ding..Mr. Beatdown takes off his goggles and finally gets it.

Supremacy listed attributes of what the 360 did right and literally meant that the PS3 should implement them for the PS3.

Which is a FACT that if they do then they are making their next console more like the 360.

My quote EXACTLY was 'Which I guess goes for the 360 if the rumored Blu Ray comes to fruition on 720.'

Which doesnt take a genius to understand (just one to take off the goggles) IS making the 720 more like the PS3.

See, I know how hard it is for you fankids to admit ANYTHING is positive for the 360, but I could care less. I love and support the both of em'.

So again keep fighting your console war with the rest of your buddies. But don't pretend I'm anything like you.

Evil

[MrBeatdown]

Aw, see that's a shame. You went a replied before I edited my comment. Accidentally hit the post button when my computer locked up and had to wait for it to straighten out before I could fix it, but you got a few bubbles left, so you can try again.

But, since you posted more nonsense, let me help you out...

"See, I know how hard it is for you fankids to admit ANYTHING is positive for the 360, but I could care less. I love and support the both of em'."

You don't read, do you? I clearly said in my original comment...

"There's just as much MS could learn from the PS3 as Sony can learn from the 360."

It's BLATANTLY obvious I was saying the 360 has it's positives. Yet you call me a fankid that can't admit anything is positive for the 360. More "facts" from Evil's wild imagination.

See, the funny thing is, I agree that the next PlayStation should be "more like the 360" but not to the point where I would say "make it like the 360", as you said. And the same holds true for the next Xbox. It should be "more like the PS3". But it's clear from your wording and comment history what your intent is. Given how you refused to acknowledge the validity of my point that both companies can learn from each other, and instead went out of your way to say hardware reliability isn't something MS learned from Sony, and using a comparison between Sony's PS+ CONTENT subscription and Microsoft's SERVICE subscription to try to imply some hypocrisy among people who aren't even a part of this conversation, it just goes to show how committed you are to protecting and defending MS at all costs, and writing off anyone who holds an opinion contrary to yours, rather than accept the facts for what they are.

Don't worry Evil, I'm definitely not pretending I'm anything like you.

[EVILDEAD360]

'it just goes to show how committed you are to protecting and defending MS at all costs, and writing off anyone who holds an opinion contrary to yours, rather than accept the facts for what they are.'

LMAO @ this FAIL. Who am I supposedly 'protecting the MS from'? People like you fighting some imaginary console war?

The ONLY one who can't accept fact is you.

So here are the FACTS again..

Supremacy made a point..

I paraphrased that point..

And he responded that it was 'EXACTLY' what he meant.

Meaning nobody can care less what your opinion of the statement or the 360..because NO ONE was talking to YOU.

LOL @ OMG I must protect the 360 because some multi on N4G mentioned RROD.

Micrsoft already learned the hard way about the design errors that caused the RROD. The billion dollar budget loss to extend the warranties to 3 years is pretty self-critiquing.

But, the bounced back after several model and chip attempts and now we have the superior Slim model (which is something they learned from Sony).
Same with Sony when the PS2 had issues early in it's lifetime. They moved past it and took over the game.

As for the rest of your comment..who cares..

Evil

[MrBeatdown]

"I paraphrased that point.."

I realize that now. You just did a horrible job of it. You said "make it like the 360" but in comments since then, have said "make it MORE like the 360, which imply two different things. One implies Sony should go all out in immitating MS. The other implies that they should move in the 360's direction, without compromising what makes the the PS3 unique, which is what supremacy was getting at.

And then you said "which I guess goes for the 360". What goes for the 360? That it should be "like the 360"? It sounds more like you're suggesting that, aside from Blu-Ray, 360 is the console to model both the 720 and next PlayStation after and it's made all the more confusing by the fact that you mentioned two Xbox consoles but never mentioned the PS3. I'm glad supremacy was able to successfully translate it. Sorry I couldn't.

"NO ONE was talking to YOU"

Lulz. Internet Commenting 101. PM it if it was only meant for him. Put it out there publicly, and it's an open invitation for anyone to respond. Deal with it.

What's a "multi"? Is that you inventing your own facts about me having multiple accounts again? Are you just "b-hurt" that not even supremacy clicked "agree" on your comment, yet it got three disagrees (one of which I just added)? Oh, wait... I get it. You think I'm giving you ALL those disagrees? Is that it? Go ask a mod to look into it. I'll bet my bubbles you'll be disappointed. Care to do the same?

Who are you supposed to be protecting MS from? I don't know. Your motivations are a mystery to me. You're the one that posts glowing praise for Microsoft and wild accusations of being a "fanblogger" and "fankid", and does it exclusivily towards people who don't share your overwhelmingly positive stance on the 360.

Speaking of protecting MS, why do you continue to defend RROD. You're not even defending them from me. I never said explicitly that hardware reliability was something learned from Sony. I made a broad statement about learning from each other to convey the point that both consoles have their positives and negatives, that you've taken far too literally. I even clarified that for you, yet you continue to harp on it. I'm not sure why you're even talking about this anymore when nobody is even debating it.

"As for the rest of your comment..who cares.."

Typical. And not surprising. The rest of that comment included me responding to your completely uncalled for and wildly inaccurate assumption that I'm a "fankid" based on your perception that I don't admit anything positive about the 360, even though I clearly said that Sony and MS could learn from each other and never disputed anything supremacy posted which included "matching Xbox Live." Then there is the nonsense about Live and PS+ that I called you on.

No wonder you don't care what I said. You've never been big on facts or backing up the nonsense you invent, especially when it's thrown back in your face. You just throw out whatever pops into your head, regardless of how true or accurate it is, and hope it sticks. It's not surprising that you don't care to stand by it or try to defend it. You rarely do, because it will only force you to acknowledge your own nonsense, and that would put the whole little "real world" you so often bring up in jeopardy.

[EVILDEAD360]

I'll respond from my phone....

Lmfao @ you taking this to level stupid times infinity. It would be easy to go line for line and heckle your silly reply but it's not even close to worth it. You jumped into a convo b-hurt because you somehow thought I was making a negative statement towards Sony. So you went into defend mode and replied. But as the rest of these hypocrites do on this site you claim I'm the one who is defending Microsoft. At the end of the day you accomplished nothing..my point stands and even the guy I replied to agreed. Case closed..

Evil

[Titanz]

3rd party games/COD>>>>>& gt;1/2 party software (in terms of sales, not including Nintendo).

People seem to be forgetting the, "Grand scheme of things." COD games push Microsoft and PS3 hardware, greatly. As long as 3rd party software continue to sell the way they do (Fifa,COD,etcetera), it'll all be a matter of controller preference, and online services.

[OMEGAZONE]

I think a lot more Xbox users will switch to the Playstation than the other way round, people can see what Microsoft has to offer with it's casual blueprint for the next few years, (they are of course developing new i.ps but not by studios people have heard of so it's more difficult to get excited about them) whereas it's plain to see Sony are investing in both casual and the more 'hardcore' experience, their software catalogue at the moment is unmatched and the games they are delivering and not just high in quantity but also high in quality.

[ZippyZapper]

No but I will buy a Wii U.

[SITH]

No here also, but I may too buy a wii U. That thing looks cool.

[Vega75]

No for me too. but i do hope it's BC and i also plan on picking up the Wii U when it launch.

[Dread]

Ill support whichever has the game I like, the best online service and the best controller.

But at the end, as always, ill probably have all of them. I am a gamer and will always play good games no matter who pulbishes and/or develops them.

I am not a crazy fanatic like many here at N4G who only support one console and hate on the competition (all of you know who those people are) and will not bow to any company. I respect all of them; some more than others, but still respect them all.

[BuffMordecai]

I know I'll be jumping, this focus on Kinect has bored me to tears. And with the next Xbox to be just 6x more powerful than the 360, there's no way I'll pay a premium for something that outdated.

[iamlegend9999]

I will if they decide to do that Anti-used games thing. If they do that i'm done with xbox.

[FunkMacNasty]

I'm not on anyone's ship to begin with.

I don't fly the flag of only one game console.

I don't make purchases based on what brand the console is.

I will buy whichever console releases with the best features and pricepoint first. A few years after the initial release when console prices drop by several hundred dollars, I will buy whichever console i didn't buy when it was released.

All this brand loyalty and "fanboyism" is soooooo played out. Especially on N4G, IMO.

[JeffGUNZ]

I agree, but I am definately getting the nextbox first simply because of the friends I game with. That interaction alone with those people are well worth the purchase.

[JeffGUNZ]

I personally plan on getting both over the next generation, but the nextbox first and later in the generation get the PS4. I think the numbers of the Nextbox will tower over PS4 in America.

[ElementX]

I will get both.

[sriki007]

as long as the non exclusive games are cross platform i dont mind.

[shinrock]

Some will and some won't.

[DanSolo]

Bah.... I will just get whatever console seems like the best one for me personally at the time.... I couldn't give a sh!t about fanboyism!

I think most people actually have the same view, but it is the VERRRRRRRY vocal minority that are always banging on about fanboy crap and make it seem like the majority of gamers are fanboys when in fact most don't care too much!

That said, a lot of people tend to stick to what they know, not out of fanboyism, just because that is a common trait in our species.... it's the old deep limbic system at work again!

[FrigidDARKNESS]

No way in hell 360 gamers jump ship. I see ps3 users jumping shipnto the next xbox if Sony don't start improving there online services.

[NinjaSp33d]

NO

[MasterD919]

I'm more interested in seeing who takes new IP's and current franchises to the next level.

[Mister_G]

They won't jump to PS4 because their gamer score won't follow them. Where-as it will almost definately migrate to the next xbox.

It's a clever system (gamerscore/acheivment/trophie s), it actually keeps you on the same system (if you actually care about this stuff).

[badkolo]

this truly all depends on the next playstation, if the ps3 is more powerful over all and has more memory this time around then sony will win the bunch, just tighten up the online portion and sony will win, people are expecting more then 6 times more powerful 8 years later, its like they are going the wii route.

[yabhero]

Exactly how some ex-haters from PS3 and 360 will jump to WiiU so the can play HD ports and Ninty franchises with graphics around 5 times better than PS3/360 (according to IGN)

[xtreampro]

Bring the open zone back so that PS4 and Xbox 3 fnaboys can duel it out once again like they did at the beginning of this gen.

[cedaridge]

Don't really care who jump to what system. i have xbox 360 and ps3 and soon to have xbox 720 and ps4. Dats how u do it! psn: cedaridge / xbl: cedaridge

[Knightofelemia]

I don't see Xbox 360 fans going right to the PS4 they might buy the console then the fan loyals will stay strictly to the Xbox 720. Same works with Sony and their fans and Nintendo with their fans. I have all three consoles and I see which one has the library of games i can't play on another console like Gears of War 3 on PS3 thats why I have a 360. As for the path for the 360 in 2012 its sucks to leave fans in the dark with the Kinnect getting to the casual gamer and not many exclusives coming out this year.

[DOOMZ]

Actually PS3 will most likely be my last Sony system...

[Mr-Dude]

It all has to do with the system YOU prefer... I grew up with a Amiga, Master System, Megadrive, Saturn, Dreamcast, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PS3... Then i also bought a Xbox 360 for Gears and HALO. I prefer the PS3, but i like my Xbox just as much.

Most of my friends own a PS3, some a Xbox 360..
But in the end, people stick with the system they are familair with and they had the most fun with!
Fanboy wars is for little children... so please grow up!

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Well I for one am not jumping from Xbox to PS3 or vice-versa.

For me, when new consoles are released, I end up buying all 3 of them aka next Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony console. I don't support only one console and hate the others. Every console is unique therefore you can't go wrong with getting the 720, PS4, or Wii U.

[Reckless718]

my ps3 does more then my xbox and im sure my ps4 will do more then the 720

[WetN00dle69]

LMFAO!!!!!!
Nice one!

[clarkjudo]

Including all the reasons listed here already. Why start over and buy the same or similar games? When your collection is either all Xbox or the majority. With that alone .... Why buy another expensive Blu-Ray player?

[ZeroWil]

Nah, I'll be sticking with the next Xbox as my primary next gen console.

I'll grab the Wii U when the next Metroid/Zelda game is announced, and that there is a price drop.

PS4, perhaps I'll pick this up whenever. Don't own a PS3, but I've always wanted to play MLB The Show and other exlusives that aren't named Uncharted/Killzone (not that they're bad, they just don't appeal to me).

[PastyGangster]

If they were smart, they'd jump ship to PC.

[PastyGangster]

lol @ the disagrees.

[Tacklebait]

Ill be buying a Xbox and then a playstation after a price drop or two. No jumping ship here. Built a good group of local friends to play on live with. Doubt any of them will be jumping ship either...

[honkyjesus]

Meh.

[honkyjesus]

Who gives a fuck?

[SpinalRemains138]

360 gamers cannot possibly be as snobby as PS3 gamers.

It's very difficult to be snobby when you are constantly screaming into your mic, or chatting with someone else who is playing a different game.

[Hozi]

@grifter024

"The ps2 was being supported for a long time but be serious how many people have you heard bragging and cheering that they just bought a brand new ps2?"

The PS2 is still being supported and stronger than ever in a lot of 3rd World countries that only recently started selling them. SONY makes a product and remains devoted to pumping out quality material into that product for as long as the consumers want it, but they also support their next Gen system to the max too! This is why I prefer Sony Playstation. They don't abandon their core fans. MS is focused on Kinect more than anything else right now, when MS launched the 360, the stopped support for xbox1 right away. Sure they allowed a few xbox 1 games to be played on the 360 but they stopped making exclusives and other devs only worked on 360 games after.

[ephoenix6]

If you throw away your xbox bias and listen to reason, a lot of people wanted a ps3, and appreciate free online and then backwards compatibility with the 150+ million selling ps2 with over 100 million users and several exclusive classics; but few people could afford the system at launch. If the next system is affordable, it may very well sell. Playstation doesn't break down like a 360, and they have more to offer than just a handful of shooters.

[Platinum_k]

yes... but unlikely the other way around

[orange-skittle]

For me it comes down to online gaming. Exclusives are going to start becoming irrelevant. The only companies still making exclusive games are in house studios. Many have decided to go multi-plat because of the market share. Launch titles will be the same on both fronts except for a few exclusives between the two. Depends on what you're looking for. If you like Uncharted then PS4 is going to be your first purchase. If you like the Halo or Gears franchise then you go with Microsoft. You're buying it for a franchise because 90% of the games released will be on both consoles. Seriously, they need to work together IMO. Microsoft is superior when it comes to online management and making your system a complete multimedia system, while Sony boasts superior technology and obtains a lot of software talent. Together, they can make magic.

[firetaw]

I think live will be irrelevant in the next generation. I just dont like the fact you have to pay to play online will everyone else dont charge for it. There wont be hardware limitation this time around that will stop any competitor from having the same features like cross game chat. Once that happends live will be the same as ps+ , they have to give you a reason to be a gold member if online play goes free

[hardcorehippiez]

exactly ! most of the franchises i grew up with are on the playstation so its gonna be a must buy.however i also like halo a lot so ill get the nextbox as well. im just not buying at the start of the gen because i was already stung withh rrod . if its reliable i will buy the xbox eventually .

[WetN00dle69]

Next Xbox first day for me.
Ill buy the PS4 later on that year.

[horndog]

Is this a trick question??

xbox is on it's way to the top. The playstation brand is on it' way to the sh*tter. It's never been the same since it's ps2 days. Ever since the 360 came sony has never really been able to recover the market loss to MS and Nintendo. The next xbox is where it's at. It's when and where MS will completely dominate the market. I also purchased a ps3 and wish i didn't. Been so satisfied with the 360. It's like a breath of fresh air. Live is the best. I can't wait to see what the next gen has to offer from MS. Never going back to the playstation brand again. Crazy ken can get "a second job" and shove his next system up his rectum. I ain't buying into their B.S again. First day buy for me.

[DebateMaster]

oh yeah more sales.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

dumb... people will support both systems eventually its not like theirs a law saying u cant buy the other system

im getting the next xbox first though :)

[TheMutator]

both consoles and problem solved , damn is that hard?

[firetaw]

Specialy now that they are so affordable.

[Nunchez]

I'll do the same thing I did for this gen. I'll buy the Xbox then the PS4 eventually.

[SneeringImperialist]

Only retards stay with a particular company or console for blind loyalism or you simply cant afford it and try to cover that up by being a "hardcore" fan boy, saying "jump ship" is stupid makes it sound like you don't have a choice it's a matter of personal preference or affordability, Not which is SLIGHTLY better. But this article just puts fuel on the fire for the PS3 trolls

[bunfighterii]

I think it all depends again on which console releases first and which has the better over the counter price.

Sony have to make sure they don't fall behind again. This whole gen has been a catch up game for them, and while the result may be that Sony have vastly improved their game since the PS3's shoddy launch, reality is Xbox still has it beat in sales in the key American market.

[firetaw]

Look jumping ships is so god damn ridiculous, especialy if youve invested alot of money into a brand. All platform gives its unique twist that in the end its about what you want in a console and about the games you want to play now.

[tudors]

I would have both but not jump ship, say what you like but Xbox-live is far more evolved than PSN, PSN should be a main focus for Sony, Home is a great idea it's not that which is the problem, it's gaming comms side and how open PSN is to cheaters compared to Xbox-live.

[nik666uk]

HOPE NOT!!!!!!!!!!

[bozebo]

A lot already did jump to PS3 and PC.

I will likely buy whichever console is the powerhouse and leave the other two for a year or so. With MS ditching their scam currency I could consider them but I won't be paying twice for my internet usage (aka XBL). And maybe they can stop marketing Kinect like mad if they have some games to talk about.

[csreynolds]

Goodie, another flame-inducing artilce. Let the name-calling and hair-pulling begin - oh wait, it already has... *sighs*

[gtxgamer2]

itll go both ways. some xbox players will go to playstation and some playstation players will go to xbox

[Smootherkuzz]

I think both systems have reached a low point in new ideas for games. Kinect and Move offer something different from the norm but still have along way to go and I think given more time will prove to be worth the wait. For now this is all we got.The new consoles will blow people away just as the 360 an PS3 did, then just like now the question will be where is the content.People have lost how to wait for new games, they want it now and the video game companies are having trouble trying to keep up with the wants of gamers.

[hazardman]

Why would I jump ship, I plan on owning PS4, NextBox and Wii-U.

[ReflexGamer]

Just don't buy the first Gen of any platforms, because we all know they will be failures left and right

[hot111]

Sony is not some market dominating gaming force anymore,those days are long gone.Sony just drags along now.

There are far more dangerous players around...

[DOOMZ]

Not getting a Wii U, been burnt enough by Nintendo!

[Jason143]

if your a gamer youll buy what ever has the type of games youll like. Personally im an exclusive only type of guy. If its multiplatform its better on pc anayways. Im glad diablo 3 is coming so i dont have to worry about next gen. Ill have d3 on pc and be quite happy :)

[Zephol]

I want PS4 and Xbox 720. I just want better graphics and data in the cloud.

[Tzuno]

of course if it is more convenient from a Moding point than 720. Ahoy there mates.

[Gamer Muzz]

I'll jump ship. I love the 360. it's my console of choice this Gen. But lets face it. the attack on used games that the industry is pushing is insane.
If other consoles offer me the option to play used games, then I'll be glad to support them instead.

[shauzy]

Every pc gamer owns a console so that he could play with his friends, the ones that doesn't understand in pc hardware and this don't have a hardcore pc, seriously people, it's just a system to play with and not to fight over, you guys should make "Games VS. Movies" instead and all of you support gaming as one thing.