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8BitBot: 5 reasons why the Xbox 720 and Playstation 4 are not likely in 2012.

"There has been a lot of talk lately about the next Xbox (probably named 720 or possibly the rumoured Xbox X) and PS4 being announced in early 2012 for a late 2012 release. There has even been talk about dev kits going out. So 8BitBot decided to take a look at things and see what the chances are of next year being the start of the next gen for the current HD Twins. Our take is that it’s not going to happen and here are 5 reasons why:"

Batzi4541d ago

if by "likely in 2012" you mean being released in the market then of course not. They haven't been announced yet and I think E3 2012 will be that day or TGS for PS4. However, I still think we are far from the next generation consoles release. Maybe we'll get them 2 years from now(late 2013) but not before. Sony would at least want the PS3 to have its console reached 7 years of its lifespan until it releases the PS4.

hennessey864541d ago

with you about the ps4 but I believe we could get the next xbox by next christmas.

BlindGuardian4541d ago

Halo 4 for the 360 in holidays 2012 is all the reasons necessary to confirm that it won't come on next year

AngryTypingGuy4541d ago

Hey N4G...ENOUGH OF "5 REASONS" ARTICLES!

decrypt4541d ago

Why do console gamers want new consoles? it will just improve graphics. Graphics arent so important, its the gameplay that counts.

NamelessTed4541d ago

@BlindGuardian

You ignore the possibility that Halo 4 could be a launch title for the next generation Xbox.

First, they said it would be the beginning of a new trilogy in the Halo series. It might make sense for them to have that entire trilogy on the next generation rather than splitting it.

Also consider that Halo 4 started development at 343 Industries even before Halo: Reach was released. I do realize that MS and 343 have clarified that Halo 4 will be for Xbox 360, but you have to realize that IF it is coming out for the next Xbox, they would still have to say that it is an Xbox 360 title because they aren't going to announce a new system before their big announcement.

Also, we know Halo 4 is coming 2012 and we haven't seen any screenshots or game footage. The only thing they have shown is pre-rendered footage.

I guess we will have to wait until CES and/or E3 to see what happens.

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morganfell4541d ago (Edited 4541d ago )

I still say the Xbox 720 and PS4 will launch in 2014. And I have two reasons.

First, HALO 4 is releasing in 2012. Microsoft isn't about announce their new Xbox...and then launch their flagship title a few months later.

@NamelessTed, remember, it's a 360 title.

http://www.pcmag.com/articl...

Here is Frankie O'Connor posting at Neogaf:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

I would buy HALO on any platform anytime but MS has smarter marketing than that.

Second are the comments of Mark Rein and Tim Sweeney both of whom have stated that we would not see Unreal 4 until 2014. What does "see" in this case mean? Does it mean see a demo or does it mean see as in consumers get their hands on an Unreal 4 game.

Best case scenario means we see an Unreal 4 demo at GDC in 2013 and then get our hands on a game in 2014. Otherwise we would see it in 2014 and then not get an Unreal 4 game until 2015.

If you understand those comments with other remarks by Mark Rein and the Epic Staff stating Unreal 4 will be used in launch titles for next gen then you see that best case scenario Epic, maker of the most prolific game engine this generation, is saying the next generation of consoles launches in 2014.

And by consoles I mean the PS4 as well since Epic is planning on Unreal 4 to be more multiplatform friendly.

himdeel4540d ago

I predict a 2013 reveal for the next wave of systems from MS and SONY with actual systems releasing NO LATER than spring 2014. I think multiplatform game developers will like anyone else that still has a job do more with these aging systems and save money on developing new tech for the time being.

We'll see optimized engines squeezing everything they can out of the 360 and PS3 while tinkering with the WiiU. Platform exclusives will continue for the 360 and PS3 albeit at a slower rate after 2012 while those 1st party developers dig deep into the new tech and engines.

Right now there is no benefit and only risk to whomever launches a new system before 2013. WiiU will be the guinea pig for this interim period between the release of the next MS and SONY consoles.

Diver4540d ago (Edited 4540d ago )

why would companies rush to release a new console when the current ones are making plenty o cash.

and ted dude its a 360 game. they not gonna lie to the community like that. an frank o isnt gonna lie to the community. if it was gonna go next gen they woulda stayed mum about the whole thing.

gamingdroid4540d ago

I think the issue of Halo 4 coming on Xbox 360 is blocking the next Xbox is a non-issue. MS could just as well release it on both consoles.

Heck, they could release both versions on the same disc... just flip it over! :D

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Skip_Bayless4541d ago

Within three months of Halo 4 release there's gonna be a Xbox 3 annouced.

BitbyDeath4541d ago

"Sony would at least want the PS3 to have its console reached 7 years of its lifespan until it releases the PS4."

Both Playstation 1 & 2 were out for 6 years before another released.

There is a really good chance the PS3 will do exactly the same.

No FanS Land4541d ago

the PS1 released in sept.1995 and Ps2 in oct. 2000. (US release)

that's 5 years for me.

PS2 to PS3 was 6 years,

it's been 5 now. I think we'll see the next gen in 2013.

Batzi4541d ago

I don't know why I said 7 :P But apparently it is incrementing by 1 every generation :P so let's see :D

himdeel4540d ago

In reading No FanS Lands comments I think PS3 will be out 7 years before we hear of a new system so again 2014.

EasilyTheBest4541d ago

Despite what most comments seem to think, I really expect a new Xbox in November 2012.
I think it will be shown extensivly at E3 2012 and then brought to market quickly to gain the upper hand on Sony once again.
A suprise 2012 release could also hurt Nintendo as I cant see them having the same success this time around with the Wii U.
I expect a New Kinect and a Xbox style controller that splits into 2 parts to be used with Kinect.
I also expect the new Xbox to be suprisingy more powerful than everyone expects and alot cheaper too.
I expect £249. While the 360 will continue but for only £99.
Microsoft can afford to be really agressive and they know that its a good time to be as Sony and Nintendos financial positions are looking so bleak.

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tdogchristy904541d ago

As long as I get ac3 on current systems so I can finish the story without having to get a new machine, I'll be happy.

Ares84HU4541d ago

I didn't play it yet, but I heard that Assassin's Creed Revelations finishes the story....isn't that the case?

DarkBlood4541d ago

with skyrim and other games i havent started Revelation yet lol

but from what i know is a story arc of a specific person ends there

at least thats what i think anyways based on the blackout ending in brotherhood

Reborn4541d ago

-maybe a spoiler-

No. AC Rev, just answers questions about Ezio/Desmond/Altair and how they're all linked. But AC3, will end it. Answering the biggest question...

Don't wanna potentially spoil anything else.

Kurt Russell4541d ago

Just finished the game myself. The bit with the Goblin King of Sweden was odd, but the most difficult section was the bit the the polar bear.

Rettom4541d ago

It ends Ezio's story.

QuodEratDemonstrandm4541d ago

What Rettom said. It's AC:R is the last we'll see of Ezio. It's also an epilogue to the first Assassin's Creed, with a few Altair missions thrown in there.

I suspect AC3 will be all Desmond.

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NamelessTed4541d ago

Don't hold your breath for Assassin's Creed 3 this generation.

Ubisoft has completely stagnated the AC franchise with the release of Revelations. They made a great game with AC2 and have just repackaged it twice now with some more story. Ubisoft is going to have to take some significant time working on AC3 if they want to take the franchise to the next level.

tdogchristy904541d ago

But according to the story arch, it has to finish by the end of 2012. Having a story line that climax in 2012 release in 2013/14 just doesn't make sense. Release ac3, finish this 2012/Desmond story and then take a much needed break for a few years before starting a new story arch.

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PhantomTommy4541d ago

I'm not buying a new console to play the same shit unimaginative games with slightly better graphics.

MultiConsoleGamer4541d ago

Haw, this author is in for a very big surprise.

Xbox 10 and Wii-U both before Christmas next year. Just in time for the Holidays.

r214541d ago

xbox 10? either you mean xbox 3 or you're joking around.

fei-hung4541d ago

I think he meant the XBOX X, which might be read as XBOX 10 due to X being a roman Numeral.

MultiConsoleGamer4540d ago

No, I mean Xbox 10. And there's a reason for the name. Check my submission history.

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Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell Of Ar Ciel Retro Review – Love Conquers All

Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia11h ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

Knightofelemia9h ago

Ar Tonelico 3 is good I still prefer the first AT game. The music is solid in all the games and Akiko Shikata is a very talented singer bringing life to the game. Only annoying part is well I find is Saki I always choose Finnel or Tyria. KOEI so needs to HD remaster the franchise along with Ar Nosurge and Ciel Nosurge since it never came to North America. I would day one the Ar Toneliceo games and Ar Nosurge if they were remastered.

TheColbertinator8h ago

I still have the limited edition of Qoga unopened. Unfortunately it never went up in value like I had hoped all these years.

Father__Merrin4h ago

Used to own all these quirky JRPG on ps3 good times. Wish I would have kept them all

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 14h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 1h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188123h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio22h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7718h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 1h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7211h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga23h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan19h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit12h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2318h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7218h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple1011d 4h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 3h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-17h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 3h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 2h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead17h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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