No GTA V release date and graphics are disappointing – Harsh or true?

Product-Reviews writes: Obviously there are clear graphical improvements from GTA IV, just look at the water splash during the jet ski scene for example – it looks fantastic. After so much speculation though that GTA V would be a ‘next-gen’ quality title, are you perhaps a little disappointed in the overall graphics of the game?

[tr00p3r]

Storyline looks fantastic as usual..but graphics I'd say, 7/10, 8/10? As with other GTA titles though, I dont buy them for the graphics, the gameplay speaks for itself.

[TheOneYouHate]

I'd say let Naugty Dog do the graphics and RockStar can do the rest ;)

[tr00p3r]

That would be one hell of a team right there!

[RedDead]

...open world...whoever made Infamous 2 should. Graphics are good anyway imo

[Mr Tretton]

"I'd say let Naughty Dog..."

Naughty Dog does linear. Doesn't mean they could make an open world game look amazing just because their linear games look good. Heck, who knows what Rockstar could do with their engine if their game was linear. Same with Bethesda.

I'm a big Uncharted fan, but people give it way too much credit for it's graphics, same with God of War III. Linear and scripted, little destruction and lacking many modern graphic effects. Looks nice, but c'mon.

[MAJ0R]

I'm pretty sure U3 would be a disaster if it was open world and didn't have those cinematic moments... so I prefer an action game being linear :)

as for Bethesda, they could learn a thing or two from ND in terms of animations

[Dee_91]

WTH
I suppose they should just adjust the brightness saturation and gamma like the gta iv enhancer to be good graphics ?
GTAIV Graphics are still great.
GTAIII to San Andreas there wasnt a major graphical improvement . What makes you think there would be here ?

[RumbleFish]

Of course the graphics are disappointing. When it's supposed to run on (now) 7 years old hardware. The only thing they can do is tweak their engine.
Anyway I am pretty convinced that the game will be a masterpiece. They seem to have gotten the message what GTA fans want to play.

[sofocado]

I'd say let Remedy do the graphics and RockStar can do the rest :-)

[death2smoochie]

Put it on the PC and let community modders get their hands on it ;-)

[SilentNegotiator]

@sofocado

The Alan Wake developers? At 960x544, Alan Wake was closer to being standard-definition than HD. And they scrapped the game being open world.

So why would we want Remedy to do the graphics? Because it had some pretty bloom effects? Because it had 4xAA thanks to being nearly Standard Def?

[JellyJelly]

Red Dead Redemption and L.A. Noire are the best looking open world games ever made. I say let Rockstar handle GTA V.

[Biggest]

I think Infamous 2 is much better looking than RDR. L.A. Noire. . . How does that even look good?

[NEW-AGE]

Looks Better Than Saints Row 3 , but the game needs to look like that to handle all the Chaos , imaging piling up 100 Tanks on top of Mount Chillad and pushing them off the edge, the game need to handle the ways they bend n clash and the randomness of where they'll end up and which will be damaged to the point of Causing Explosions, most better looking games dont let you do that let alone get a view of this plus a sprawling city in a fighter jet in the same frame and not end u freezing on you

[ProjectVulcan]

I believe the open world game you are all grasping for is Just Cause 2 which is highly impressive on console and stunning on PC. Alright the foliage are sprites but it isn't hugely noticeable that it ruins the look of the game. Very good looking massive world title.

Still i am sure that Rockstar are squeezing these platforms as hard as they can, as long as they don't settle for poor performance then i would be happy. Happier if they do a Pc version day one mind....

[morganfell]

Has the ridiculous, hit-mongering website product reviews ever said anything informative? Ever? Bueller?

[NEW-AGE]

I Wonder if i Drive an Immigration Car , if the Mexican Will Scatter , im Mexican BTW, i Wonder if you Can Own A Pitbull Dog and throw a Tennis Ball in the Train Tracks, i Wonder if You Can Hook up a Tow Truck or Baggage Cart to the Jet Fighter, it would be fun to Drive A Helicoptor with a Huge Magnet and Swoop People up From the Freeway,and Watch them jump out in Horror or Trap Someone in A Pay n Spray and Watch them come out All Green and falling Over

[Drazz]

Dude must be on a crap PC...

[NEW-AGE]

I Saw A Dog in the Trailer

[JohnnyMann420]

I thought the trailer was F***ing awesome including the graphics.

The FPS and lighting looked above and beyond GTA IV. Also, pause it and look at the amount of cars on screen.

Pretty amazing.

[Virus201]

I agree.

The character models of the people hiking looked similar to those of Eight Days. I remember seeing an article saying that someone who was working on that game went over to R* to work on GTA5.

[come_at_me_bro]

Yeah totally agree. That was actually the most enticing thing about the trailer for me. The graphics were not only a big improvement over other RAGE engine games but the glimpses of the world seemed denser and more detailed too. Thats a huge achievement. Even the outer landscapes put RDR to shame.

Anyone complaining about the graphics (especially since we have no idea how close it is to release) is being kind of a wanker imo.

[Undeadwolfy]

FFS are we really arguing about the graphics from a 2 minute trailer which is barely in HD? We don't even know what platform the trailer's from and its most likely that the trailer was made with a pre-alpha build. Seriously...

Just wait till we see some actual gameplay, then you can start to make some small assumptions.

Btw, this isnt directly aimed at any commentors. Just the authors of the article looking for hits.

[iPad]

I like how GTAV looks. It actually looks fun. I don't know if it's just me but blowing stuff up and getting chased by the cops in GTAIV wasn't that fun.

It felt like something was missing.

[ATi_Elite]

The story will be good as always

as far as graphics.........ICENHANCER Mod will take care of that for the PC and i wont speak for the consoles.

[phinch]

tbh it doesnt need "good graphics" san andreas looked piss poor, even at the time, but it was still an amazing game

[AliTheBrit420]

Uncharted 3 - Linear experience, the developers, not you, decide what you see and when - Amazing Visuals

GTA V - Completely open world experience, no loading screens needed between huge bouts of land riddled with dynamic AI and much more going on that a linear third person shooter - Amazing visuals

Am I the only one? who see's its pretty obvious GTA V looking as good as it does is more impressive than Uncharted 3

[Zydake]

i thought the graphics were great and this is just a early build so that means a lot of room for improvement.

and to the writer of the article the guy on the picture is the same bum who found the diamonds that GTA IV revolved around. Im guessing he's back to being a bum cause at the end of the GTA V trailer you see another bum with a similar appearance.

[ItsMeAgain]

I think graphics looked very good (meaning for the GTAV trailer).

[Shackdaddy836]

What are you talking about? Graphics look great.

[SJPFTW]

if this isnt next gen graphics i dont know what is. Look at the lighting, the detail and also the animations. Looks 10x better than red dead. and RDR had awesome graphics

[ScytheX3]

but im betting you the graphics were on the PC version, and RDR was console only, there was never a pc version. though the gfx will still be better than GTAIV on consoles for sure.

[Mr Tretton]

"but im betting you the graphics were on the PC version"

Man I do hope GTA V is on PC, day one. Less bugs this time though I hope, or at least patched quickly.

[TripleAAARating]

let's not get ahead of ourselves here it's clearly not ten times" better than Read Dead. RDR was awesome, but I'll say the color pallet is better, and it's not "nex gen" graphics it's "current gen"

[kingdavid]

10x? No way.

Looks like a solid improvement over gta 4 and read dead. That is all.

[iamnsuperman]

I didn't think the graphics were that bad. My main worry is frame rate (happened to me in GTA4). When it hits the fan I want to make sure my frame rate doesn't drop. Also texture loading (had problems in RDR). I enjoy GTA for what it is. Great story, fun gameplay, massive open world for things to do. As long as it looks good and not a step back from GTA 4 I do not mind.

[tr00p3r]

Wonder if PC will get a version the same time as PS3 and Xbox 360? That was another thing Rockstar missed out. :)

[Pikajew]

I liked the graphics

[gillri]

huh!? the graphics are great

[shikamaroooo]

It's an open world game and for an open world game graphics are spectacular

[dc1]

If true, the graphics would be the best presentation of open world visuals to date.
I loved infamous (plat) ....but this, GTA5 looks amazing.

Note: I understand that the video is likely showing highly rendered in game footage, however it doesn't change the fact that it looks.....awesome!

Forgive the typos as I sent this from my phone.

[OcularVision]

I was really hoping for GTAV to come out for next-gen consoles. Well now I'm hoping next-gen consoles will have backwards compatibility :)

[cyguration]

Who says it's not for next-gen? We didn't get a release date or platform specifics.

In my opinion I don't see how GTA V could look the way it does and run at 30+ FPS on the current gen systems if it's going to have all those peds walking around, custom cars, and a draw distance that far with that kind of shader detail, shadows and real-time dynamic lighting all enabled.

It would make sense if this game was like current gen and next gen compatible. You know, sort of like what Avalanche did with Just Cause, making it for PS2/Xbox but having the definitive version on the Xbox 360/PC.

[OcularVision]

If GTA V were to launch for next-gen consoles, then it would be launched exclusively for the Wii U, which I highly doubt.
A 2012 release date is likely, and we haven't heard of any next gen PS or Xbox consoles, which generally are announced a a year or so before launch. With the list of upcoming current-gen games, I doubt we'll see next-gen consoles anytime soon.

[zu4G]

the article complains about the game graphics same as gta4..
i dont care about that, as long as the game is in SAN ANDREAS.. it doesnt matter,,

[9thWonder]

the reason why ppl would be upset is cuz after all those stupid videos of those morons doing mods on GTA4 ppl got it in their head thats what the next game will look like others who are die hard fans will appreciate how it looks now and thats nothing special cuz it doesnt look that far off better than Saints Row 3

[GunofthePatriots]

i thought the graphics looked good. rockstar never has any jaw dropping graphics anyway. looks better than gta4

[pctrollv4]

the graphics looked a lot better than IV and they look MOD ready for pc. Gonna be tight

[TrevorPhillips]

Are you serious? Game looks phenomenal the whole lighting, animation, everything. I mean come on, it's GTA ;)

[kamakaz3md]

Graphics are disappointing??? Wow, then MW3 must look terrible to the idiots who think the graphics arent all that great... GTA 5's game engine alone is a master piece!

[TBONEJF]

Why would R* announce a date when they first launch the trailer? It's almost complete when it's ready THEY WOULD ANNOUNCE THE DATE.

[tr00p3r]

What are you talking about? First ever Skyrim trailer 10 months ago announced a release date straight away.

[irepbtown]

Devs like to leave clues in trailers.
MW2 teaser gave a clue MW3 was going to happen.

Just sayin, these little things can very easily be true.

[DeadManMcCarthy]

agreed with TBONEJF, the first trailer of GTA IV they didn't show the release date either.

[mamotte]

The graphics, compared to GTA4, looks by far more brilliant, vibrant, colorful... hey, it has more than 3 colors and grayscale, at least. Look great to me.

[TrevorPhillips]

My guess is that the game might come out May next year. What do you guys reckon?

[unknownhero1123]

nah, more likely it will come out around the october-november timeframe. Releasing it in may would be too soon after the release of max payne 3.

[Ashriel]

"After so much speculation though that GTA V would be a ‘next-gen’ quality title"

lies, never seen such speculations :s

[BrightFalls76]

It looks like GTA IV with some added color. I truly don't get the hype around this game, the quality of this series peaked with GTAIII. Saints Row 3 already looks far better than this retread.

[camel_toad]

Yeh in my eyes the graphics are a step up from GTAIV and with the consoles pretty much hitting the graphical peak of their lifecycles I dont think you can expect much better. Rage tried tried to push it and ended up with inexcusable texture pop-in.

[DeadManMcCarthy]

the graphics are incredible for 6 year old console hardware, imagine how awesome it will look on pc's.

(i expect a whole lot of consolers to thumb me down, :) come at me b*tches.)

[ZBlacktt]

It's a trailer... not game play. Can anyone be happy for a day on here, lol. It's just nice to actually see new stuff on the game period. Plus, funny how the day the trailer comes out. We have 100 news stories on it. Now UC3, BF3, etc are yesterdays old news now. The attention span of today's gamer, lol. Always looking for what's coming next.

Plus we all see this other story out.

http://n4g.com/news/878987/...

[kingPoS]

Keep in mind that the Ice version of gta4 barley runs @60fps on mid to high end pc's. Besides since when was a gta game know for it's hyper realistic graphics.

[MikEyG]

The pics show much longer draw distances and better lighting,rdr looked great and if the pics are anything to go by i'd say gta V is a significant improvement over gta 4, but i'm going to have to see some more trailers before i'm completely convinced.

[MikEyG]

Dude even said that jets are now gonna be available to players to fly,i'm pretty sure I flew a military jet in san andreas (ps2) that hovered off the ground and with the press of the R3 wile holding it forward turned the thrusters towards the back so you could FLY around the game world

[Ulf]

Open World games are inherently crippled, with regards to graphics fidelity. They have to (attempt to, meaning they have a lot of culling and streaming work to do) render WAY more stuff than most games do, and they have to juggle a monstrous load of animations, textures, etc. in memory to give the world some dynamic variety. That's no small feat.

GTA IV looked freaking fantastic, with this in mind. GTA V looks to have improved, even if only slightly. That's pretty impressive, and I'm not upset about it in the slightest.

[BitbyDeath]

I like the graphics, kind of remind me of the Sims in a way and that is not a bad thing.

[Organization XII]

Graphics are awesome, and yeah, me and my bro when first saw it we were like damn did they brought the sims into the game? I'm actually surprised it looked that good on ancient dusted hardware. Props for Rockstar, the author is clearly blind or a troll

[reddeadite]

Disappointing graphics?
Are you high?

[DeadManMcCarthy]

I know right, these morons wouldn't know what good graphics were if it hit them in the face. GTA V has incredible graphics people have to remember it's running on 6 year old hardware, no matter how great something is you always see morons complaining.

Can't please everyone I guess.

[reddeadite]

Exactly.
The other thing is even now, over 3 years after it's release, GTA4 is still a pretty good looking game.
Then Rockstar improved upon it with RDR then L.A. Noire and then with the upcoming Max Payne 3 (Due March 2012).

The thing is Rockstar only moves forward.

[ape007]

exactly, the gfx in the trailer isabsolutely mindblowing

[HaHa_Ostrich]

For some its always disappointment. Launch games are not good enough because they dont utilize the power of consoles. Consoles mid life games are not good enough because they still didnt max out the power. And end cycle games are not good enough because they could have been so much better on the next gen.

[hot111]

graphics disappointing?

hahaha

buy a proper tv

[WarStar]

mods will make the graphic so i dont care about graph

[SephirothX21]

The graphics look great for a sandbox game. This is GTA for heaven's sake. Take a look at GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas. The animations and graphics were not up to speed with other games but that was because they were open world sandbox games. Rockstar North are capable of things other devs are not. How did they fit San Andreas onto a single dvd for the PS2? They're Rockstar. That's how.

[tweet75]

i remember saying on GTA IV and many other ps3 games "can graphics get any better than this?" well maybe not but there still amazing nothing to complain about

[SuperSaiyan4]

BLIND? Considering how big GTA games are and how much more GTA 5 is offering the graphics are truely amazing. Anyone that thinks the visuals are nothing amazing are either plain stupid or utterly ignorant. Holding onto your 1 game on the PS3 Uncharted 3 I am sorry but thats laughable the scale of GTA alone and its gameplay makes utter shame of Uncharted you fools.

[blackhammer]

Get excited to bask in the playfulness of trees and mountains, dogs, a better city, more comedy, and gang warfare.

Get disappointed to learn that the release might not be 'till Q4 2012 and a lack of silly activities.

There's always gotta be a downside to something.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Graphics were all right, I mean I never had a problem with GTA 4 graphics or previous GTA titles. I don't really mind if graphics r slightly better then GTA4 in terms of lighting and stuff.

[NoNeedForAName]

I'm perhaps a little disappointed that people are bitching about the graphics of a minute and a half teaser trailer made from what I'm sure is a very early build of the game. Christ, you people.

[thespaz]

I was expecting these type of graphics to be honest. Look at Red Dead Redemption to see what to expect for GTA V.

They're still working on current gen hardware... why are people expecting next-gen graphics?

[frankiebeans]

i like this look better then gtaiv, i thought gtaiv was trash.

[Getowned]

looks better then GTA4 and thats all I care about.

[Johnny_Cojones]

"[Is this Nico?]"

Yeah, huge fans. Who apparently didn't complete Ballad of Gay Tony. Why is that picture included in a GTA V feature?

[i_like_ff7]

Is this article saying the graphics are bad?!?!?! Considering the scale of GTA games, i don't think there's any game pc or console that touched the trailer. I highly doubt its real time on consoles. In engine yes but the detail in the world is head and shoulders above any other openworld game.

[BuLLDoG909]

what does the guy who wrote that article expect ?

the graphics are good for the hardware, bring that shit on!

[banner]

The game looks good enough for me... If it's not for you, then cross your fingers for a pc version...

I can deal with console graphics as they are.. Im not worried about graphics I want great gameplay. It's ironic... ppl always scream " graphics graphics" but then don't support it like they should... Yea I'm talking about bf3 and pc gamers...

[GAMExxOVER]

We all want better and better graphics, I used to judge games by the graphics, but after playing several recent games with great graphics that turn out to be very boring, I want first fun!. I will gladly give up some graphics for larger more playable/interact-able maps, better story lines and characters etc. I think the graphics shown in the trailer look fine, if the game play is amazing I have no Issue with it. Now I have gone back and played GTA SA, man I had no Idea how bad those graphics were, I am spoiled I guess because I once loved that game but now have a hard time playing it because of the Boxy graphics. But ya, Maybe we wanted even better graphics than what is shown, but you have to admit it still looks very nice.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

If you play a game just for the graphics, then you should never call yourself a real gamer. If you play for the fun, then put your fist up to the screen for a Knuckle-Bump!! In the late 90's/early 00's, all it was about was the gameplay, the time you spent trying to beat, say, the Water Temple in Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time, or playing multiplayer in GoldenEye007, or playing Spyro for the first time.