DICE: Don’t worry about Battlefield 3 on console

VG247: "Battlefield 3 executive producer Patrick Bach has told VG247 that, while the shooter’s PC version is graphically “better” than its console siblings, gamers should stop worrying about the console editions."

[waltyftm]

Don't worry about us console owners, we got Uncharted 3, Gears 3 and Resistance 3 single/multiplayer to keep us occupied, and no doubt VERY HAPPY.

[Pixel_Pusher]

There's no way in hell I'm going to miss out on nextgen/photorealistic games just because MS, Sony have these little notions that hardware should only be upgraded every 10 years or so.

I'll keep my PS3 for the exclusives but everything else I'll get on PC.

@Dartower
Absolutely agree with you. Apple should delay their next product just so you can feel good about having the latest version of a gadget.

[DarkTower805]

@pixel_pusher, "these little notions" lol. I hope Sony and MS never follow suit of companies like Apple who release new versions of ipad, iphone and ipod every year. I'm perfectly happy with my PS3 this gen, and PS4 will come out soon enough.

Imagine how rediculous it would be to have to upgrade a PS3 to play a new game.

[Theonetheonly]

I just really hope this game doesnt have a delay.

I want it NOW!

[Lazy_Sunday]

I understand, yes, but it's been more than a year since the PS3 was released. In fact, we're going on 5 years for the PS3, and 6 for the 360. When did we start the last console gen? Oh yeah, in 6 years.
Not that I'm insinuating we need a new console every year. No, far from it. In fact, I suggest we follow the Apple policy in a slower manner. We make PS3.5's, since everyone's got to bitch about how they're totally okay with the fact that they're running on five year old crap machines my Macbook Air can sadly match performance-wise.
Think about this: some people aren't okay with the fact that their console games run at 600p instead of 1080p. Some people aren't content with 25FPS dropping frequently, they want a solid 60FPS without buying into PC gaming (since it sucks community-wise). Well, consoles could simply deliver a new device every 3 years that matches the standard today, and allows us to reach the height we want. That way, all you stubborn "investors" out there get your money's worth and can play your games at crappy resolutions, and the people who actually beg for their games to have some graphical clarity can get it from a branded source. The games will still run at the same 29FPS crap they have forever on the old shit, the only difference is that people who want the next big thing can get it and it will play better. There will then be so many versions of the PS-whatever that there will be no need for graphics comparisons, since the 360 would follow suit, and they'd be constantly out-doing each other.
This is my solution. There will be no need for backwards compatibility because it will remain "Playstation," much like the iPhone 1 can still run iPhone 4 games, vice versa. It just works, and it keeps moving forward.

Yes, it's essentially a PC. But I can guarantee you that's what a LOT of people want to spend their money on. But I don't want to sit back while we start hitting 20FPS gaming. Faster graphics=less vlag. Less vlag=better gameplay. Better gameplay=better experience.

[nickjkl]

you are so right we should upgrade our consoles every 3 years

and have to start an entire new library of games

i believe that's called pc gaming except you get to keep your library of games

why do all these people want to force a pc life cycle on consoles

[Substance101]

Most of my friends only use consoles for exclusives anything else is bought on pc, hence we dont really care about the console version of a multiplat, its known there almost always is a compromise. In this particular case the gap is just wider.

[pinkyxyz]

If you have a pc then good for you, but what does that have to do with consoles? Get real, we have been upgrading consoles every 5-6 years since the nes days and not only is it fiscally responsible for the company but it also allows developers to optimize their code in their games (something that is rarely achieved on pc's because of yearly turnovers. Consoles aren't holding your battlefield experience back, because its all up to you whether you purchase it on the pc or not.

[Ju]

"why do all these people want to force a pc life cycle on consoles"

I don't understand that either. If the PC is that great, why not just stick with it.

I do not want a console to be a PC. It is too much PC like already. Well, I think it could have more of an app store at some point, but installing games? While I don't really mind, I'd rather get rid of the feature ASAP. Instant play, that's what I want. And Zero configuration is a must.

I hope the next gen will be available when the tech tops off (sort of) and will last forever, tbh. Every cycle should add some more years. Glad the current gens stretch that time already, next gen should last even longer.

You can play a game from 2005 and the latest and greatest from today without needing to worry if your driver won't break that damn thing.

[TBM]

Im not worried Dice im liking what im seeing. Getting the game day one on PS3.

[chriski333]

Not worried at all day 1 for ps3

[Ju]

Yes, very happy. Even more happy adding BF3 to that list.

[Dart89]

I'm not worried these people dont gimp the other version unlike *cough Treyarch cough*.

[DarkTower805]

Really? How many players does the console vs pc version support again?

Don't get me wrong, the console version will be good, but only as good as console tech can allow. There is no choice but to gimp the console version down.

[vyke3]

am i seeing wrong or did neonlight45 reply to you four times? lol.

[Ser]

There's nothing gimped about the console versions.

Lower player count = gimped? I don't consider that a gimp.

I'm pretty sure Dart86 was talking about PS3 vs 360, not console vs PC. Of course the PC will have a larger player count - there's more to work with on a PC. DICE did all they could on consoles, and to me that means nothing was gimped.

Hardware limitations =/= gimped game.

What Treyarch did with the PS3 version of BlOps is an entirely different can of worms. THAT'S a game that was gimped.

[ATi_Elite]

Worry? Hell I haven't thought about it one bit!! lol

we've seen the PS3 version which looked good and i'm sure the 360 version will be fine.

[Pl4sm4]

im a little worried .... because 24 players is very low , im 100% sure that the ps3 can do 34 players (if they use the 8 cells).... the xbox on the other hand would be left out and microsoft would cry and cry then the ps3 and xbox are getting 24players ...on a side note .... Im glad this gen is almost over .... 1 - 3 more years and the ps4 would be the most powerfull gaming machine out there ..........again

[kaveti6616]

only 6 SPEs can be used for gaming.

[Letros]

It's bandwidth standards that MS and Sony dictate that limits the game to 24 players, not processing power.

[BattleTorn]

@letros

Ya games like Homefront and MAG totally don't exist.

[The_Claw]

@Battle Torn
theres a reason why Mag looks like a ps2 game.

[dantesparda]

It could be MS' fault, since they want parity across all platforms and you barely see more than 24 players on the 360. Which is funny cuz the first game i went online with on the 360 did 32 players online (PDZ)

[JellyJelly]

If you look at what's going on in Battlefields multiplayer with fully destructible environments, land/sea/air vehicles etc compared to games like MAG, Homefront and others you'd understand why.

[Ju]

Yeah, real performance measures would be interesting. Socom4 is also a Zipper game - assuming the net code is the same - and that tops off at 32 players. The visuals heavily improved over MAG, though. Killzone 3 is down to 24 players (but KZ2 managed to have 32).

We'll see where BF3 will end up. I am curious to see if they can top UC3/KZ3 visually. I would be surprised if they can with there very first attempt (harnessing the PS3 power - BC2 was different tech; not sure if that counts). If they do, thouhg, 24 players is quite OK, IMO.

I prefer smaller maps and player count without the need to run across the whole battlefield all the time. With jets and tanks that might be a bit different; and more would be nicer for a full blown war scenario. Still, should be good. Can't wait.

[Ser]

Why worry? Have you played Bad Company 2 on consoles? It's totally enjoyable with only 24 players.

I still play it to this very day.

[Pl4sm4]

i love the disagrees ... keep at it lol ..........@brakblack .. 24 is fine ... but the thing is that the xbox keeps downgrading the multyplat games like crazy ... and there is nothing to stop it until the next gen comes

[_Aarix_]

1 is disabled and one is used for the xmb.

[cloak365]

How is 24 players very low? Hell my friends list never really has more then 6 people on at the same time on the same game

[Persistantthug]

All BF games on consoles are run via EA's own ded. servers.
Sony has no restriction when you pay for your own stuff.

[Letros]

Oh, you wanted proof Persistanthug? It's pretty common knowledge.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum...

[Persistantthug]

EA polices their own servers....not Sony.

[user858621]

Not worried at all.... since I'm getting it on pc lol

[latinalover]

bacon > PC

[caboose32]

You must be fat....

[kanetheking]

caboose32 you must be skinny..

[Smelly1sam]

Why so much hate for PC?

[caboose32]

My body is %110 made out of solid muscle.

@Smelly1sam

Their jelly.

[The_Claw]

guys guys, its attitudes like yours that will keep BF at #2. We shouldnt be fighting amongst ourselves over who's version is shinier. Lets be glad we're all BF fans and encourage our friends to become one too.

[Motorola]

Some people cant eat bacon so that could be the disagrees.

[detroitmademe]

Cant wait 2 give it go

[sak500]

Not worried just waiting for the freaking game. Pls give us beta at least.

[latinalover]

i never worry about the consoles versions

[fluffydelusions]

Same here. I had BC2 on PS3 and 360. Both versions looked the same and both were enjoyable. Bring on BF3.

[electricshadow]

I'm sure people who are getting this on either for the PS3 or 360 won't be disappointed. Regardless of the platform you're getting on, BF3 looks to be a very solid, and more importantly, a FUN game. DICE knows what they're doing. October 25th can't come soon enough. Took that day off work and going to a midnight launch at my local EB Games to pick up my copy. I haven't been this excited for a game for a long time.

[BattleTorn]

I got a week off!!

[electricshadow]

Haha, that's too long for me. I have a really good paying job, but I wouldn't feel comfortable taking more than two days off for this game. Who knows, I might. I like having money.

[MGRogue2017]

Yes, console owners shouldn't worry.. but, let it always be known that the PC version is superior. :P

[latinalover]

pancakes > PC

[DeadIIIRed]

So basically judging by your other comments in this story you're saying that

IHOP > PC

[Swiggins]

^ lol

[leogets]

i will never get to play it on pc so what ya aint got ya cant miss right ;)

[gravemaker]

getting it for pc day one and dont care a bit about console versions

[_Aarix_]

Cool story bro.

[Jack_DangerousIy]

My only "issue" with this game at all. Is the fact that the beta is so close to the release date.... I mean, assuming there are problems how in the world will they be able to fix it prior to release?

I'm really really looking forward to this October...

[thebudgetgamer]

i'm a pc elitist and even though this is about the console version i need people to look at me.

[FunkMcnasty]

nice jab ;) have a bubble for well placed sarcasm.

[Ser]

Great comment. You just imitated a whole lot of people in this comment section.

[venom06]

one thing is for certain.... the console version of BF3, WILL LOOK AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN THE CONSOLE VERSION OF MW3.....

[Raven_Nomad]

This guy should be a politician. He skirts every question, I know as a 360 gamer I'd be worried had I thought of buying this game. Not simply because there has been no footage, but because they were said to be having issues with it in the first place.

Sad to see so many pre orders from my 360 brothers. The saddest part is, I know a lot of gamer's who saw the footage and assumed it was footage from consoles and then got all excited about the game, they really should have marketed this differently IMHO.

[consolez_FTW]

Dude, BF3 will be awesome no matter if you get it on PC or Console. People preorder because they know the game will be great. I trust DICE with this. The only thing sad here is how much you troll DICE and BF3..

[Lavitz2012]

He's just mad cuz this game is gonna make cod look like from 2007..oh wait it still does xD.

[kingslayer1000]

lol this dude never quits, i guess that's what playing outdated dvds do to you

[IM_A_NINJA]

You do realize DVD is still the majority in the world right? Not by a little either. Also, DVD/Blu Ray has absolutely nothing to do with anything...

[radphil]

*reads Raven_Nomad's comment*

*Bangs head onto desk then wall x100*

He's not even hiding it anymore...

[Swiggins]

Is that you Robert Bowling?

[BakedGoods]

A 360 AND a CoD fanboy? Wow, what an awful combination. You must spent the year waiting for that one good 360 exclusive, meanwhile buying up $15 map packs.

[Dragonlord112]

I keep laughing to myself every time Raven comments he should just join troll school and get the most negativity there :D

[FunkMcnasty]

I was worried a bit because I preordered BF3 for 360, but I'm not anymore. I think the reason we haven't seen or heard much about the 360 version is due to some sort of Activision/Microsoft deal. Especially where MW3 and BF3 are going head-to-head this fall and CoD, despite being a mutiplat, is really more of a 360 flagship brand.. you even see it advertised alongside Halo, Gears, and Fable as if it were an exclusive.

I know, I know, CoD is like the #1 seling game on Ps3 too--the xbot fanbabies have mentioned that plenty of times, but I still see it as more of a big deal on the Xbox. So far marketing for BF3 = PC and Ps3, marketing for MW3 = 360

[Ser]

Raven, why do you keep coming into these articles?

You're not buying Battlefield 3, right? So why are you so worried, brotherman?

[CrimsonEngage]

Definitely not worried about BF3 on consoles. I have BC2 on 360 and it was a masterpiece in my opinion. It pulled me away from COD.

[ennero]

ı was worried before what when ı seen co op mode ı have excited and console versions will be comparable pc version ı hope this ı ll getting this game on ps3

[MilkMan]

Not worried son.
I know you guys got my back regardless of platform choice.

[thespaz]

If they prevent the game from screen tearing, then I'll give it a try. Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor sucked. DICE, you don't have to resort to turning off v-sync, just do what Naughty Dog and Guerrilla Games do.

That's my number 1 annoyance with this generation. Developers try to make their game look so amazing that it runs like crap and has screen tearing all over the place. How is that even a nice experience? Lower the graphics and make a game that PLAYS WELL!!! Jeeze.

Or at least give us a setting to enable v-sync. Games are not mean to be viewed as a screenshot... they're meant to be in motion, so make the "in motion" parts really shine... not some stupid still screenshot that looks photo-realistic but runs like crap.

Sorry... I just hate how DICE is often praised and they can't even get their game to run without turning v-sync off and letting it tear.

[BakedGoods]

Uh, I'm not sure we've got the same understanding of what screen tearing is.

Screen tearing occurs when the game runs too *fast* which causes the FPS to out of sync with your TV's refresh rate (eg. 60Hz). Vsync locks the game to 30FPS preventing the frames from getting too high and causing screen tearing. So given that understanding, lowering the graphics would not reduce screentearing--in fact it might increase it if the game then runs at a higher FPS than before.

[thespaz]

No actually, you're wrong about that.

The screen will tear whenever the frames are out of sync with the display, so that doesn't necessarily mean when the framerate is over 60fps. If you turn on v-sync, that doesn't mean the game is locked at 30fps, it just means that the system won't show the next frame until the previous frame is completely displayed (thus no tear).

When I say that they should lower the graphics, I mean that they should do what they have to do to make the game run at 30fps while still enabling v-sync. If done improperly, v-sync can make the framerate drop dramatically unless the developer insures that the game can run at a steady framerate no matter how much is on the screen at any given time.

The reason developers turn off v-sync is because they can't get their game to run at 30fps constantly (with double buffered v-sync) so to combat this, they disable v-sync to get the framerate to go higher which obviously results in screen tears.

Being obsessed with v-sync since my PC gaming days, I've done a lot of research on the subject.

[Brosy]

I play Bad Company 2 everyday and there is no screen tearing.You are just trolling.

[thespaz]

There actually is screen tearing in Bad Company 2 on both PS3 and XBox 360. I rented it.

Also, check out Digital Foundry's analysis on it.

This is from the Digital Foundry analysis: "Four sections of Bad Company 2 gameplay are put through performance analysis. The game sustains frame-rates well, with varying levels of screen-tear in taxing scenes."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Watch the video at the bottom of the page, the green lines in the analysis are the XBox 360 tears and the blue lines are the PS3 tears. Both versions tear and I like I said, I rented the game and actually played it and saw screen tearing right away.

I'm not trolling.

[BladedTech]

I'm not worried because I know DICE will handle the situation.

[Plagasx]

Yea, I won't be worried because I'll be too busy playing the definitive version on my beautiful PC.

[Killman]

And this being a console article, nobody cares. Well, except for other PC elitists.

[BattleTorn]

I always LIKE getting my favorite games on Xbox with my community of friends, but for now I'll be keeping my pre-order on PS3, until I see X360 footage.

Activison/MS have been buddies for sometime now, gets me thinking EA will be treating Sony

[BLow]

Can't we all just be happy playin the game on either platform or the ULTIMATE PC VERSION. I thought the console fanboys were bad but the PC 1's came out big time for this game. Yes, the PC will be "best" version so can we move on and just be glad we ALL can play this games. Man, its the same crap over and over again on every BF3 article...Don't some of you get tired of it.

I honestly don't know what happened to this generation of gamers...My version is better than yours[insert game]over and over and over again. It has to get old sometimes..Oh well, keep at it cuz I find it funny sometimes and other times I'm yellin at my screen..I'm out

[Bladesfist]

Actually I have seen just as many ps3 fanboys trolling about no xbox version in other threads.

It would also help if the submitter did not tag this under PC.

[bozebo]

Because previous generations there were far less multiplats and far less 12 year-olds into gaming.

[FunkMcnasty]

I think gamers have always been a contentious bunch, but then the internet came along and gave them a soapbox to stand on and tell everyone else how inferior they are and why. ;)

And to the dude below who said there were'nt as many 12 yr olds into gaming back in the day.. Not sure how old you are, but I grew up in the golden era of 8-16 bit consoles. when I was 12, my friends and I were all rockin' our Super Nintendo's/Sega genesis/Saturns and were just as much into gaming then, as we are now. I think what you mean, is nowadays, everyone is forced to play with 12 year olds online, so we are more aware of their (often) annoying presence..

[Gamer_Z]

I trust Dice but not EA so its 50/50, Either way i'm getting the game and i know its not going to be as good as the PC version but who cares BFBC2 was great and so will BF3. Besides anything is better than getting the same game every year, poor souls.

@Blow

People have the need to justify there purchases, they don't like the idea that they got ripped off so they defend it even if it was a bad investment.

[clockworkrazor]

PC Elitists = the most pathetic , hate filled fanboys in existence bar none.

"My gaming rig is bigger than yours" guess what?

NOBODY CARES !

Now go outside get some sun and kiss a girl before your 40.

[radphil]

It's funny, cause consoles were the ones that started that way back, even with SNES x Genesis marketing.

So no they aren't the most pathetic....

[earbus]

Pc and 360 for me friends on box and pc for the first strike starwars mod that will surface i have no doubt.

[bozebo]

I won't be worrying; I'm getting it on PC.

[Ocean]

I'm sure both console versions will be fine....five yr old machines are standing up well

[rattletop]

what's there to worry about? almost all games look better on PC. it's a fact. nothing can be done. deal with it!

[Braid]

Worried?

Why would I be worried, it's your job to worry about the overall quality of the game, not ours. I'll calmly be waiting for the reviews to show up, that's all.

[Allowen]

If I end buying BF3 it will be for the PS3 and expecially because it will not be sold on the Steam(PC) .

EA is making a huge mistake for not launching it at the Steam while CoDMW3 will not just come to this plataform but will also recive the steamworks support.

[sielder]

Looks aren't everything as long as it's a good game to play and lasts more than a few hours in the single player campaign I won't be complaining much.