/rant: Pirates, F*** You!

Ryan Hillis shows us his rage again in this week's edition of /rant. This topic: the leaking of Gears of War 3! Why is it that gamers have so many self-destructive tendencies?

[maskren]

Marcus Fenix says, "No means no."

[blitz0x]

Lolol

[Mr_Lu_Kim]

lol what a load of croc.

It takes a J-tag 360 to play all these pirate games anyway and I would say that J-tag users represent less than 0.01% of Xbox users.

No-one wants to void their shit and never play online again just so you can the single player of new games for free. Multiplayer is where it's at this gen and it works well against pirates.

[DragonKnight]

@Mr_Lu_Kim: Free beats anything. Multiplayer is NOT a deterrent to piracy and it never will be. For many, if they can get it free, they will. Simple as that.

[maskren]

Now that I think about it, Hillis kind of looks like Fenix. We just need to give him brutal facial scars :D

[agentxk]

Piracy is rampant, I hear the argument that buying games are more expensive in other places but ultimately, if you cannot afford the purchase then play flash games and f2p

[Sinterfire]

"if you cannot afford the purchase then play flash games and f2p" easier said then done. No I don't support hackers, but I'm just saying if people can get what they want for a cheaper/free price then they will.

[Bigpappy]

I can get game for free, but I just buy what I want anyway. I must be one dumb-ass MF, but I am kool wid dat. I don't just go around taking peoples shyt because I have access to it. I go by people's houses and offices every day,to repair their stuff. They leave vauables all over the place, including cash. I see that stuff and it has the value of a brick to me.

Too many young people just want to get over on some one else. I would say to all of you, just earn what you can and live within your means. You will feel much better about yourself and have much higher self esteem.

[Sinterfire]

@ Bigpappy I know what you are saying and I agree, but with piracy you are less likely to get caught or in trouble as the other crimes you listed. Thus making hackers and pirates alike unaware of thier actions and the consequences to their actions. That's are my thoughts about this problem.

[LOOK_AT_THIS_I]

@Bigpappy

+Bubs for an intelligent thought on here. People know of the consequences and choose to ignore them in regards to piracy. Its the reason the scanners at a stores doors are wired for sound now, cameras everywhere, and prices of products go up because you have to protect your property from lowlifes who steal.

Keep it up and we will have so many lame ass hoops to jump through, and crazy laws in place just to connect to the internet in the future.

[Thecraft1989]

But if there never going to buy it then no one loses out. No way it can justify copy right infringement. But its still has no effect to publishers or developers.

[dabri5]

The thing is, most people that pirate the game wanted to buy it. They wanted it enough to decide, they were going to pirate it (which in itself takes time and effort). I can guarantee you, that 80% of the users out there who pirates a game would of bought it if pirating wasn't an option.

[Rocket Sauce]

I really doubt that. How many songs have you downloaded that you never would have paid for otherwise?

[dabri5]

All the songs, that I have downloaded were because at the time, I didn't have the money to buy the cd I really wanted. I didn't just go out and pick downloads at random.

[maskren]

At the same time, no one likes being poor.

[omi25p]

So theft is ok. If your poor dont buy it on release.

[Mr_Lu_Kim]

Meh don't make games so damn expensive for the shit they are trying to shovel feed us?

Hardly any of this gen games have been worth anything up to the 6 month to a year price.

Piracy is an answer when shit hits at $120 Australian. F em I say, I'd pay if it where lower and do in rare cases for AAA titles. Otherwise I bargain bin/steam sale/pirate that shit lol.

hate me IDK.

@ Dlacy13g

That gets me mad to.

[pixelsword]

I'm staying outta this...

[LOOK_AT_THIS_I]

Games being expensive is a sorry ass excuse. I will assume that you are a kid, because if you have been around for any other consoles including the Nes, SNES, Genesis you would see the prices have actually been low in comparison.

I have paid for some crappy games in the past on the NES, and had no online, no co-op just a goofy 8 bit single player game with crappy graphics, horrible sounds, and clunky controls but still somehow managed to purchase the game and still pay bills.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

honestly what angers me more are the A-holes running around this site that drop spoilers on leaked games they pirated. Its one thing to steal it for yourself but don't ruin it for others just to be a D-bag troll.

[dabri5]

....Nathan Drake saves the girl, gets his ring back, figures out the mystery of his ancestors and stops the bad guys. :)

[Ducky]

.... Ooo Ooo Ooo Oo?

Though it's a bit naive to assume that games would be cheaper if piracy dropped.

[Tupac_Shakur]

I see pirates drive around town with the games i love and im like FUCK YOU! and FUCK EM too!

[omi25p]

Some douchebag ruined part of the story for me. My most anticipated game and i already know half of what happens at the end. Arrrrghhhh

[EazyC]

Clay died. Tragically.... =(

Ruined my day.

[newhumanbreed]

Didn't Gears of War 2 get leaked as well? I'm seeing a trend here.

[admiralthrawn87]

sorry but the industry needs a crash. someone needs to let them know its not ok to release half finished games and charge for horse armor. it also needs a boost in creativity. this call of duty shooter clone spree is getting pretty out of hand

[EazyC]

Sing it with meh:
"Yar har, fiddle di dee,
Being a pirate is alright to be,
Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free,
You are a pirate"

Yes YOU! The one who frequents torrent websites such as the PIRATE bay.

[Lekumkee]

Who wants to bet the author has at least 1 mp3, 1 movie and at least 1 app that he pirated? Don't you love these double standards when it comes to pirating?

[Mr_Lu_Kim]

Who doesn't have something "pirated" somewhere that is technically illegal on their system.

Shit even people using WinRAR after the trial period are technically committing piracy or theft. But are you going to pay for it? I sure as hell aren't.

Second hands games buying is just as much stealing as piracy all the games store does is "steal" the devs money.

[Lekumkee]

Ummmm.... that's my point. Why is the author panties in a bunch when he knows he has pirated shit also?

What puts him on this high horse when it comes to videogames?!

[Darkseeker]

Everybody on Internet is guilty of piracy somehow. Everybody has downloaded a mp3, video or something like that.

By saying everybody on the internet, I mean 100%. There is no exception, it's basically impossible for anyone to be completely legit and buying everything.

[Lekumkee]

@Darkseeker

Would you rather me say %99.9? Almost everybody that has used a PC in the last 10 years has pirated something whether they knowingly did it or not...

edit: example = if you recorded or received a recorded cd you have taken part in piracy...

[ILikeTurtles]

hate piracy? don't buy used games then since it has the same effect :3

[pixelsword]

buying a game that was already bought had one person buying it, and the turnaround is one and even if it's used, it puts money into the economy.

Leaking a game that you never bought has no one buying it, and put no money anywhere.

[kaveti6616]

"If piracy were to cease to be, those prices would no doubt drop and the rest of us paying customers might be able to sleep at night."

No, sir. That is untrue. Publishing companies are corporations. In a capitalist society, all corporations are seeking to expand through constant revenue growth.

Piracy is a scapegoat excuse. The amount of revenue lost through piracy is an unverifiable figure, but the publishers have no problem throwing out large numbers.

The corporations will always raise the price of games each generation and lay the blame on high development costs and piracy. But these reasons are moot. Development costs are controlled by the publishers and the developers. Publishers are willing to dole out hundreds of millions of dollars for advertising a 10 million dollar game.

[Darkseeker]

They barely lose anything to piracy because most pirates would never buy the game otherwise.

[zerocrossing]

You honestly think if piracy stopped games would be cheaper? Its thanks in part to piracy that games are cheaper now, Back in the super nes days you'd pay £70 for some games, Ever since the PSone and Dreamcast piracy has been on the rise and the cost of games has been coming down, now most are reasonably priced at £35 to £40. Don't get me wrong Im not supporting or condoning piracy but its a 2 sided coin,Its made sure games are affordable and also caused many gamers frustration because of people who abuse their rights, Its a complex issue.

Piracys been rampent for over 10 years now and last time I checked the game indusrtys doing fine, Im not supporting or condoning piracy so dont even think about conplaining at me think about this the second hand game stores you buy from keep all the profit so the devs don't see the return thats exactly what pirate gamers do. As for this vid regardings spoilers in Gears 3 did any of you think about you know, not watching it? Just sayin.

[Darkseeker]

Yes, piracy is bad, I am against it, but the price of games has nothing to do with it. The reason prices are this high is because developers want more profits, so they increase the prices a lot. They could still make profits by lowering their prices by 10-20$, depending on the game, but they won't because they're as greedy as pirates and always want more money. If it's anything, it's the fact that developers pirce their games high that cause people to pirate, not the other way around. In fact, used games is a far bigger problem than piracy.

There is also the fact that they don't lose as much money as they make you want to believe. They barely lose any due to piracy, because the majority of pirates would never buy the game if piracy wasn't possible. Therefore, they barely lose any money. Yes, some pirates buy the game if they like it, but seriously, the huge majority of them wouldn't buy it anyway.

Yeah, I hate piracy, but I am starting to hate the developers more for using it as a scapegoat for an excuse to increase the price just to make more money.

[Bigpappy]

Its not the developer so much as the publishers (EA, Activision,...) that are greedy. But stealing the games would not lower the price. If gamers want to pay less, stop pre-odering or buying at the high price. Let the games fail to sell in the first month. You will see results in no time.

It is way to difficult to organize gamers though. Many get to hyped over hot games to wait that long. But we really do have the power to control the price of the games we buy by not buying at the asking price. I will play Child of Eden, but I think the price is too high. I am not going to rant on the game over the price. I will just wait until I get it for around $25.

[silencedwriter]

So if they use piracy as a scapegoat to increase price, then piracy has effectively help raise the price.

[Rocket Sauce]

"Well you can't take the effect
And make it the cause
I didn't rob a bank
because you made up the law
Blame me for robbing Peter
But don't you blame Paul
Can't take the effect
And make it the cause"

[Boody-Bandit]

Piracy has been out of control for years. I never pirated anything and I have been gaming since it's inception. I did mod the original PS and my Saturn but only to unlock the region because I was big into import games during that generation. I owned a PS and the white Saturn (damn sorry I sold it now) from Japan but I use to take my systems on the road back then and it was easier to take one of each instead of two of each.

I still have a huge collection of imports from that generation and the Dreamcast as well. I was too eager to wait for those titles to hit the states. Funny thing was I always purchased them when they hit NA as well.

I still play those systems today.

[Cereal]

It was predictable. Typical mediocre Gears plotline where some guy crys over his boyfriend.

[Chewy33]

Really? He didn't even shed a tear at the end neither did he mention you know whose death. A mediocre plot line doesn't have novels that receive five stars and comics.

[silencedwriter]

When it comes to average games, maybe. But top tier titles like Gears of War 3 are a different story. You can't tell me that people just stumble across that pirated title and only play it because it's free, that they weren't gonna play it some other way before. I am sure many people that played the pirated game will now refuse to purchase it because they already played it for free. Its a big name game, people know about it.

Also, the high price doesn't lead to piracy as much as you would think. Music is arguably the most pirated form of media. How much does one song cost on iTunes? yet people still take that shit all the time. Even if songs were a penny, they would still take it for free, because they can and without consequence.