Modern Warfare 3 will have Dedicated Servers

Mr. Bowling has confirmed that Modern Warfare 3 will have dedicated servers. That means no one will be “host,” that’s less lag. No one will have a bigger advantage because of their connection, (I mean, not the host type of advantage). The previous Call of Duties, MW, MW2, Black Ops, are NOT on dedicated servers.

[a_bro]

OH RLY? well thats a good start.

[captain-obvious]

on PC only ??
just like black ops ? \

still don't think it'll have Dedicated Servers on consoles
its activision after all

edit
@blow
yes i did read it
but where does it say the consoles are getting did servers ??
because that dont cut it/confirm it
next thing you'll now
activision well say its a miss understanding

[MidnytRain]

"@z0mgItsHutch Of course, you can also come over to the studio when I’m back in the states for lunch and a chat. - by @fourzerotwoin response to…

@fourzerotwo Aaaand, if I was a betting man, would it be lucrative to place money on dedi servers for console this go around? – by @z0mgItsHutch"

Consoles will have dedicated servers.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

Unless they give you the option to host your own.

Dedicated servers for COD would probably cost them fortunes to do themselvs since so many people play the COD games. It would be cool if the console versions gave users the option to set up their own dedicated servers. Possibly use another console as a dedicated server too.

I will be surprised if this is true.

[mastiffchild]

THIS is what the needed to do, though, isn't it? P2P for the biggest shooter in the world was a massive joke in 2010 for Blops. They make EASILY enough to cope and when Warhawk has still got it's community enjoying them and has since 2007 it's a bit of a SICK joke that COD heads have been made to wait so damn long.

Blops STILL suffers,on PS3 at least, from a billion host migrations because of Trey and Acti's decision to stay P2P AND to nerf hosts to such a nasty degree that not only did host advantage disappear but so, 9/10 did the host themselves and as host migration rarely works, even now, that was a near game breaking mistake. Dedicateds are WAY overdue on this series and many other current shooters. no excuse and i'm praying U3 has dedicated server support or it's going tobe crap compared to Gears3 with them.

Sony has been great about the games it publishes getting good servers(MAG, KZ and Resistance joined Warhawk in having them) so i'd imagine now that they KNOW people love Uncharted MP they'll dig deep and make the experience better. Christ, if Kotick will do it there's NO excuse for staying P2P. It was also the worst thing, the connections, about U2 MP.

Dedicated servers aren't a luxury that only PC gamers are bothered about and the number of console shooter gamers who don't know the advantages must now be a tiny minority. It'stime they were the norm as I've almost never seen any lag in console shooters using them and I can remember barely four or five times where I've seen ANY in Warhawk to be honest. We PC gamers have known the importance for ages and most console only gamers have know for long enough too and t shocks me,really, that Acti have got away with this so long. Overdue-hope everyone who CAN follow suit DOES so.

[blumatt]

Dedicated servers on PS3 and 360 or a no buy for me. If it has dedicated servers, I'm gonna pick it up. PSN: blumatt

Oh and bring back the CoD4 3 Killstreaks, where it's just:
3 Kills: UAV
5 Kills: Airstrike
7 Kills: Helicopter

CoD4 had it right. They should have just came out with more map packs every since CoD4 and everyone would be happy.

[goflyakite]

Unfortunately I think fourzerotwo was just continuing his statement from the previous tweet.

Hutch:
@fourzerotwo So indulge me Robert, maybe just clarify if it's brand new tech or updated? If updated, how much? CoD4 to MW2 or CoD2 to MW2?

fourzerotwo:
@z0mgItsHutch No indulgence tonight. There is plenty of time for tech talk, tonight is all about gameplay and the trailer. #MW3

fourzerotwo's very next tweet:
@z0mgItsHutch Of course, you can also come over to the studio when I'm back in the states for lunch and a chat. ;)

As in, "No indulgence tonight. There is plenty of time for tech talk, tonight is all about gameplay and the trailer. Of course, you can also come over to the studio when I'm back in the states for lunch and a chat. ;)".

[blackbeld]

Yes, dedicated servers!

Day one for me!

COD-MW3 will be awesome.

[JokesOnYou]

Well I'm getting the game regardless, I know this site is full of COD haters but I've had tons of fun with MW2 and Black Ops, it still gets heavy playtime while so many of these "supposedly" better games end up collecting dust once I beat 'em, n4g elitist-know-it-all gamers can say whatever they like, but its one of the few games that keeps everybody coming back and having fun together for month after months of online gaming.

[FunkMcnasty]

AMEN!!!!! Bubbles for you, man...especially the part about "n4g elitist-know-it-all gamers can say whatever they like." Oh and they will, believe me. But a REAL gamer knows what they like, and doesn't jump on silly bandwagons.

[dillydadally]

True. True. It's so "politically incorrect" to support a CoD game on N4G. I'll give you a bubble just for having the nerve to state the truth and go against the popular opinion.

I get tired of the lack of innovation in the CoD series and bugs and glitches, but at the same time, as upset as I get, nothing else is coming out that has the same level of quality other than the Battlefield series, and vehicle combat isn't my cup of tea. I like small infantry gameplay, and as much as I want to get on the anti-CoD train, I can't think of another game out there that does that type of gameplay at the same level of quality.

People keep acting like Battlefield and CoD are direct competitors (including DICE and Activision), but really they aren't. They obviously have some overlap but one's small team infantry and the other is large battlefield warfare with vehicles and roles. Each attracts a different type of gamer, and if I want small team infantry, there's actually nothing to compete with CoD on consoles.

[Colmshan1990]

That is the draw of Call of Duty.
While other shooters try to impose every other facet they can on you, no matter how many other shooters you play, good or bad, you always know you can turn on COD and just lose yourself for an hour or two of fun.
COD4 really got me into online gaming for real, and is still one of my favourite games.
The later COD games haven't quite matched it yet, but are still fun.

[DarkFantasy]

I agree i love COD as well MW2 was good but i want the same feel in the gameplay/Controlls COD4 had they had it perfect but they kept changing it with every game no cod plays the same(controlls wise) COD4 is sooo smooth compared to the rest i really want it back in MW3..now that we hopfully got dedicated servers (for ps3 -crosses fingers-) they can remove marathon(no more people running around with knifes please -_-) and overpowering killstreaks like Attack Dogs,Black Bird,Nuke these are horrible killstreaks..cod4 was the best nothing was too overpowering with the killstreaks whats wrong with just having a few good ones like UAV,RC car,attack helicopter,UAV jammer,turret,care package,ect, im not going to get 20 kills with these but there fun and keep things intresting! any way can't wait to learn more!

[Aarix]

The campaign is amazing there's no doubt about that. But alot of people hate cod due to the out of control problems that activation can't fix. (quickscoping, camping, immaturity e.c.t)

[awi5951]

I Think this is the first step in cutting out microsoft on live. There putting these servers up so they can have there own pay service i bet. Some games like FF 11 on xbox doesnt need a live connection for you to play. I wonder if activision is up to something sneaky. Ghost recon had its own dlc link inside their games when they came out bypassing live. I wonder will boby kotik use these servers to bypass live. Like i said FF 11 has its own separate service off of live on xbox 360.

[likedamaster]

Hyperbole.

[chriski333]

hahaha yea right thats like saying MW3 wont have any glitches

[Dart89]

Wow that's a start in the right direction now get a new damn engine add what made cod 4 fun and i may think of buying you're games again.

@Project yes i'll probably check it out to see what all the hype is about.

@active reload as a matter they did they took out balanced weapons although people would always argue the MP5 was overpowered but watever,balanced kill streaks,great maps and each gun was unique in it's own way.

[ProjectNaTL]

They took the MW2 engine a lot further, premiere in 2 hours

[Shaman]

MW2 ALWAYS looked great on consoles while maintaing 60 fps.I'm sure MW3 with all that meyhem will only look better...

CANT WAIT!

[Active Reload]

" add what made cod 4 fun "

Did they take what you're looking for out of their games since COD4?

[Killzone3___]

no they didn't , it just get old that's why people are getting bored of cod but people play it again because the game have a fast gameplay , simple one and they don't have anything else to play ...

[Joe2911]

Of course they did. CoD4, was probably the best multiplayer experience I've had on PS3. As Dart said, balanced weapons and killstreaks, and brillant maps.

[Active Reload]

I was just wondering because his/her's commment was somewhat odd to me, but they've explained themselves.

[MRMagoo123]

Ide prefer they took all the kill streaks out of the game completely or at least limit it too the ones they had in cod4.

[Emmettcelticfan]

That's good news no more douche bag rage quitters

[Shackdaddy836]

Well there still will be rage quitters. It just won't have to change the host each time. lol.

[Emmettcelticfan]

if they shut their console off it won't migrate the host, thus ruining the game

[mastiffchild]

That was a Blops thing though. MW2 still had the host having a slight edge but they wanted to avoid that in Blops but they just nerfed the host by too big an amount and some people ALWAYS quit if they thought they were hosting-even before firing a round or getting killed once! It's not EVEN rage quitting as a lot of the people i've spoken to about it feel that they just don;'t enjoy it if they're the host because they feel so off the pace.sure,most good shooter layers can cope with it but I find it's a thing i can notice myself.

It was a poor design choice for a game where we already KNOWa lot of people aren't the most, erm, laid back who play it-or the most experienced. A lot of these guys just play for fun with their mates and anything that spoils that fun is seen as BS that they will avoid and if the host nerfing means you can't compete then it ISN'T fun for you.It's the best reason for them to be getting dedicated servers besides the lag we all suffered more of with Blops. Worst COD for lag since COD3. But, Treyarch spoiled the balance for hosts and you should blame them, really,when you know what kind of people are likely to play COD and won't be able to all cope with that. If new(ish) gamers could tell hosts were nerfed ten, surely, it must have been bad, no?

Admittedly, I've played very little Blops as I didn't really like it this time round(a bit fatigued with the whole thing)but it's been a hell of a lot of people I know moaning about this issue and moaning since day one too. I doubt they can all be wrong and I've certainly seen and felt it myself on the occasions I have played and been hosting. Is/was it the same on 360?

[Kon]

Nice, maybe i'll give it a try after seeing some gameplay videos

[Nitrowolf2]

Well thats a step in the right direction

[Shackdaddy836]

Nice. Kinda excited about the video premier now. I wanna see if I will have to spend double my money in the fall for BF3 and MW3 or be able to save 60 bucks.

Either way I'm gonna have a lotta fun in the fall...

[Raendom]

I'll believe this when I see it.

[Statix]

Yeah, that was a very cursory reply by @fourtwozero regarding dedicated servers on consoles. It seems like he just glossed over the question, which, if the answer were indeed to the affirmative, would seem like it'd be a huge announcement and upgrade to the COD franchise.

Plus, that guy seems to BS a lot about Infinity Ward games to talk them up. He's now saying that the game "never dips below 60 fps" "like all Infinity Ward games." This has already been proven to be untrue in COD4 and MW2, as framerate analyses have shown that the framerate in those aforementioned games dips quite frequently below that 60 fps target.

[ProjectNaTL]

Also, to this who already pre-ordered or are planning to, make sure you use Amazon. They give release date delivery for $.99. On the other hand, GameStop or BestBuy will cause the price to go up to 80 dollars. Just a tip if you want to be one of the first to max out.

[_LarZen_]

I hate dedicated servers, having to sort trough a list of dumb ass servers to find one to play on...and getting my friends on the same one is a bitch at times.

I say f*ck dedicated servers, it's old school and it sucks.

[MidnytRain]

Matchmaking is possible on dedicated servers. An example of that would be Battlefield: Bad Company 2.

[Ravenor]

That and it's really not hard to organize...Ventrilo/Teamspeak is hard.

[vickers500]

What MidnytRain said.

Dedicated servers does not mean server list. You should still be able to use matchmaking and just quickly jump right into a game.

[Gawdl3y]

What they need is to have both options available, like what Warhawk does. A server list, and a "quick match" button to throw you into the best choice.

It doesn't seem like any game dev has gotten matchmaking right. I constantly get thrown into a game with my team losing horribly, the match being almost over, etc. Plus, getting together with friends is usually much easier with server lists -- Just give them the IP Address/Host name and you're good to go.

Server lists + community-ran dedicated servers are one of the biggest reasons why I prefer to play on the PC. Add that on to the mod support, more customisation/flexibility, better controls, and more often than not, better graphics.

[kutocer]

Wow you really have no clue do you. Dedi server's mean you can find a set of fav's where you can go back time and time again and get to know the people your playing with instead of joining a random server.

Dumb ass servers that are far more reliable then hosting on someone's machine and everyone is on a fair playing field. P2P is shite and sucks ass big time and is for people that don't have a clue.

As peeps have already said match making can be done on dedi's and far better and quicker then shity P2P. Next time do some research before posting immature comments where clearly you have no clue about.

[KeiserSosay4788]

Now they just need to fix the ability to spawn trap combined with overall bad spawning and the overpowered perks.

[Too_many_games]

You are all wrong. the only thing that is worth 60 bucks in November is Skyrim

[Rybakov]

heeeelllz yeah sir.....and uncharted 3

[goku32359]

...and battlefield 3

[ProjectNaTL]

I think it's safe to say the bigger maps have fixed spawn trapping and perks such as SC, COMMANDO, etc. have been removed (see: Modern Warfare 3: Not a Disaster on the Project NaTL)

[Raven_Nomad]

I think this is a step in the right direction. This will help them sell a few more million copies. Though I didn't mind the P2P on the Xbox 360, it always did a pretty good job finding a capable host.

[Rybakov]

ah more ripping off other games in order to look good......but its still call of duty so it automatically sucks

[MidnytRain]

In ripping off, there will be less lag. Less lag is a good thing that people have been wanting from CoD.

[_LarZen_]

Here is the newest trailer to MW3...enjoy :)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[xVeZx]

lol i was gonna call BS and then i was like O _ O

[captain-obvious]

lol

looks JUST like MW2

[B-Real206]

nice find looking forward to a high def version

[xVeZx]

hope they come out with a beta....lol who am i kidding? they dont need a beta everyones going to buy this game no matter what

[tosh61]

If its not on consoles then this isn't news.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Uhmm...Pretty shocked to tell you the truth.

[guigsy]

Hopefully it will be for the 360 and PS3 versions too, I mean Activision can afford dedicated servers for all three platforms given the amount of money that CoD generates for them every year.

[Gawdl3y]

They don't even have to pay for the servers themselves. Just let the community run the damn things, just like dedicated servers on the PC. It generally works much better for all sides this way.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

This would be cool if true but Ill wait to see. maybe certain playlists will have them, who knows.

I dont see why ACTIVISION would do this when they know that it will sell without them, and most people who play wouldnt know the difference. Suddenly they are going to pay alot of money when they have been soo money hungry recently(wont even pay their devs). Will believe it when I see it.

edit--well thats part of the reason why I wont believe this until i see it. having dedicated servers for a small community doesnt cost much, but for a game like cod with 20 million it would cost them alot. Its possible, but it just doesnt seem like something activision would do. It would be great if they did tho. Or even if they gave the consoles the ability to host their own with a PC or maybe even another console. It would be cool if they did this tho.

[mastiffchild]

They WANT to keep calling the series "premium" and it's really not possible to keep doing that when they haven't even got dedicated servers and games with way smaller profits from AGES ago still have them today(Warhawk has them with, by comparison, a tiny community)-it was becoming a bit of a joke that COD ran without them to be honest and with Gears going dedicated it left MW3 as, possibly, the ony big name shooter coming out this year with P2P. Couldn't go on, thankfully. the COD massive DESERVE this too for their loyalty-whatever you might thin of them or the game Activision DOES owe them this much at the very, very least.

And it won't even make a tiny dent in the profits from one map pack let alone a full retail release.

[Gawdl3y]

They don't even have to pay for the servers themselves. Just let the community run the damn things, just like dedicated servers on the PC. It generally works much better for all sides this way.

(Reposted from above)

[ATiElite]

Do you seriously want a bunch of console owners running servers? have you not heard them on Xbox Live?

I can see it now. Little Johnny is getting knife killed all day long (because he's a crappy camper) so he Rage quits and yanks the server Internet connection out the wall just before you level up.

Lets leave the home run servers to the pro's....PC Gamers!

[RedSoakedSponge]

awesome. now they need to make sure to have a beta this time round. it worked well for MW1 so it should be a no brainer.

[Winkle92]

The more I hear about MW3, the more I'm beginning to like it. Sounds like IW is really trying to give the series a fresh start.

[BlackSharinganX]

if they do have dedicated servers they might aswell confirm it first

[HS83]

if they have dedicated servers, maybe they will have larger player count and a new mode with vehicles. just saying, itd be awesome!

[kornbeaner]

I doubt they will have Dedicated servers for console. its to much of a cost and if they do, it may be the start of the pay to play model that has been hinted at for so long. Pay Activision said subscription monthly and you will have dedicated servers if not you will be stuck on P2P.

The reason why its easier for PC to have Dedicated servers is because 100% of the cost is handle by the host of said server. On console it will be up to Activision to pay for those cost and you have to have enough servers for millions of people which can be really expensive.

Mark my words, if console gets dedicated servers consumers better get ready to pay a WoW type subscription for Call of Duty.

[Gawdl3y]

They don't even have to pay for the servers themselves. Just let the community run the damn things, just like dedicated servers on the PC. It generally works much better for all sides this way.

(Another repost, lots of people saying the same thing.)

[kornbeaner]

Would work on PSN since they have the open system to allow it, I believe Warhawk has that option of running a server. But MS won't allow it, they keep their system closed to only Devs so the general public won't be able to have servers unless they are willing to jump throw hopes.

[GSpartan777]

I don't mean to be a negative nancy, but this does not really confirm it. It hints to dedicated servers, but unless they make an official statement that is not a tweet from FourZeroTwo then I'll believe. I do think that the PC version will have dedicated servers, because it will make no sense to go back to IWnet after the MW2 PC fiasco and Black Ops having them. But for console, I'll believe it when I see it.

[garrod]

Dedicated servers means it will be Pay to Play mark my words.

[ATiElite]

OK that's very very good. I mean you've only made billions and billions of dollars on this series. A few AMD powered servers are very very reasonably priced now a days.

although Activision has the cash to spring for the brand spanking new Intel Westmere-EX based servers.

how about a free pizza delivered to your door for every time you get a 20 killstreak.

[Asgaro]

True.

It's the most played FPS franchise on earth at the moment, but still:

- outdated game engine.
- no dedicated servers.

Anyone who buys this game, should really consider this "Do I really want to give 60 euros to a developer who doesn't care about these 2 points and as such I will keep encouraging them to do so?"

(BF3)

[SockMaster]

Im not holding my breath but im SICK of the bullshit that comes with P2P, it ruins the multiplayer - they are earning so much money they should put in their own dedicated servers!

I will be a very happy man if they do actually put in dedicated servers but this is call of duty...TAKE THE CASH AND RUNNNNNN then put out some DLC :)

[creamsoda]

Pfft if dedicated servers is that crap they put on Black Ops then no thanks you pricks.

[Gawdl3y]

Lol?
Black Ops ran on Peer-to-peer, just like every other Call of Duty game on consoles.

[creamsoda]

I'm talking about PC you derp, does consoles have dedicated servers? No. Think before you comment fool.

[skawtch]

Isn't this the flimsiest basis for a rumour ever? A Tweet that could easily be misinterpreted.

Anyway, they should have dedicated servers as a matter of course.

[Groovey-Mango]

Incoming monthly fees!

[jaih27]

Too little to late. The COD francise F'ed Pc players since COD2, and havn't stopped, and I will no longer support the game. Not only that they are still using the same crappy engine, that my CPU can run 4 itterations of at the same time...No Thanks,if I want to play a console game I'll play something on my Xbox. Adult games are where it's at tho, APB here I come.

[x800]

they are smart, they take out dedicated servers at first and now they are giving it back just to say, oh look we are adding something new so they could get more ppl involved and the next mw game they will take it out.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Now was that so hard Activision?

[Der_Kommandant]

It only took 8 years...

[X-Frame]

Doubt it.

If they can put the same stuff out year after year without updating their technology and 8 bazillion people buy it -- what motivation do they have to improve?

I hope I'm wrong though.

[NBT91]

That is what I am thinking too, like since it has been the same for years, why suddenly now choose to change it so much?

And not be rude to them, but well, that lagg and server issues is just simply not the only fault in the COD franchise. It is high on the list though...

[kutocer]

For any online game's Dedi server's are a must. Server browsers are quicker then trying to get a P2P game. Its not hard to sort out the list into players on a server then look a ping then jump on it.

I made the mistake of getting MW on console where it was P2P and having the worst time of my life trying to get a game esp if you have a restricted NAT it took an age to get a game. Dedi servers I would have the list within 30 secs then joining a server with a click of a button.

I won't be getting MW3 as they have not taken any steps forward to provide a game where they have taken the engine forward in any shape yet again.

DICE have already shown they want to give the players a next gen engine on a next gen game.

Why do you think Vince and Jason left because they were not given the creative freedom to provide the "consumer" with a truly awesome game but were forced to smash out one after another just to milk the title.