Anonymous: PSN Attack Is “A Crime To Make Money”

GamingBolt.com writes: "With the PSN hack becoming more or less a mainstream issue with over 70 million accounts/users affected, it was obvious that many people would have thought that the Anonymous are behind this attack. However it was revealed to be otherwise."

[fluffydelusions]

Not sure why anyone would believe what they say. Probably just saying it because a) they are scared or b) save face

[lociefer]

ya but hacking different sony sites and supporting a criminal that made developers loose their money because of pirated games is not

[GrieverSoul]

I believe they believe they didnt do it!
Let me explain, these guys are a group of people that dont know themselves in person. These are guys who "hang-out" in chat channels talking about stuff. If they say they didnt do it, then they didnt do it. The trust they have in each other is based on chat words.

Still, they may say they didnt do it but Anon sure had some worries in coming up early saying they didnt do it. That is a little upsetting.

Remember, everybody is innocent in jail.

[sikbeta]

"Anonymous group: PSN Attack Is “A Crime To Make Money"

"Anonymous member #10: hey how many accounts we checked already? I forgot to count :P "

"Anonymous member #04: like 250 more or less... man this is though, but hey, there are only 76,999,750 left" XD

[gameseveryday]

I am actually a bit confused as well, because if anyone of you remember, there were a lot of news before this hack that the Anonymous will attack at such a large scale that cant be imagined by Sony.

Well that happened now with the PSN down for almost a week...but the million dollar question is were the Anonymous really behind this or some 3rd party wanting to take some advantage.

[RufustheKing]

yes i remember that about Anonymous saying they would attack. those greedy little B**tards. I have no doubt it was Anon. they have gone very quiet of late, when they were sending messages and videos and now nothing.

[nycrekid]

it's very obviously and likely that a real serious hacking group did this and it's not anon. Anon just set themselves up. I've been saying all along that real serious hackers don't go around advertising and blowing their own spot up. With Anon all over the news and online talking about hacking the psn and stuff all the attention was on them. These real hackers saw an opportunity to do this knowing the blame would probably fall on Anon.

It was perfect timing. It is very likely this was NOT Anon. It's like the mafia, the last thing you want to do is get yourself in the news. It always becomes your downfall.

[Denethor_II]

nycrekid Lay of The Soprano's.

[thesummerofgeorge]

So apparently this attack goes against Anon principles, yet they, at very least, created the situation which allowed people to do this... And yet they want to pretend that all along, they should have the right to hack the console, but not accept any responsibility for the inevitable subsequent fallout... NOW do you fuckers see why we all want you to quit hacking the PS3?

It's like saying you're against robbing banks, but believe you should have the right to help compromise the banks security. If you're going to unlock and open the door, as it were, you're just as guilty as those who walk through it thereafter.

[AyeGee]

@thesummerofgeorge

Who's "they"? Because i'm pretty sure not everybody associated with this amorphous collective was a part of this.. they did have good moments. Another thing, "they" can't accept any type of responsibility.. there is no leader.. so there is no real "group". It's just a blob of random people who support each other's beliefs.

[thesummerofgeorge]

@AyeGee

I'm not sure your point. When I say 'they', I'm referring to Anonymous, Geohot, and anyone who involved themselves in the hacking of the PS3, or the despicable actions against Sony and PSN users.

a blob of random people who support each other's beliefs, IS a group btw.

[undercovrr]

So even if they are saying something that actually is true (and what they said makes sense since credit card numbers were stolen) you are purposely not going to believe it just because it is Anon?

[Nitrowolf2]

My question is how the hell is a group full of unkown people suppose to keep an eye on all it's members? And Rashid Sayed said, they are the biggest suspect right now since they said hey would attack Sony in a large force and then this happens literally days after they said it.
Thats why so many people are blaming them.

At this point it's hard to believe who did it, but i am going with another party.

[undercovrr]

@Nitrowolf

I would also say another party for this reason only:

yes Anon did state that they would make a huge attack on Sony, but that's the perfect cover for the third party hackers to initiate their own plan(which they've probably been planning for a while). If successful (which it was) the attack will draw attention on Anonymous, further preventing the third party from being caught.

Also, I don't believe stealing credit card information and using it is part of Anonymous's MO, they just hack because they want Sony to suffer since their belief is that Sony deserves this. i don't think they want to personally attack the consumers.

However, the third party did just that - attack the consumers. Maybe it was some guys from Anon that the other members don't know about, but its highly unlikely

[JohnnyMann420]

Yeah, they said they were planning an attack so hard no one could imagine blah blah.

So did they do it?

To think all Anon members are lil kids using DDoS attacks is rediculous.

I guarantee that Anon has plently of "real" hackers that know their way around systems no problem.

If Anon did this, they didn't do it to steal info. They did it to bring Sony down (over geohot, which is stupid)

To do this they needed to infiltrate the PSN to the point where Sony was forced to take down the service.

Sure Anon members will deny it now, but we all saw the videos and the #OpSony call to arms.

Well, sounds like some of your members listened to your warcries and got the bunch of you in deep shizz.

Perhaps you should choose who you attack more carefully and for the right reasons.

The whole country is messed up, corrupt, Fed Reserve etc and you go after SONY?

It's hard to take these wads seriously.

[xAlmostPro]

They should change their name to Obvious

[nix]

tch. tch.

[LoneWanderer09]

I just want everything to go back to normal

[fedexas]

You and me both. PS3 users have been through hell and back with this, caught in the middle in this battle between Sony and hackers.

[Drekken]

Don't worry... Sony has it covered: http://chzgifs.files.wordpr...

[DragonKnight]

You know, it's pretty sad when Anonymous says something more accurate, and level-headed, and with the blame pointed at the right party than most of the idiotic comments that have been posted by the haters here.

I swear by reading the comments here this past week, you'd think Sony did this themselves and on purpose. So much misinformation and fanbot hate have been spewed against Sony when the true culprit that everyone should be angry with is the hackers.

Even now, people are STILL saying that CC information was lost by Sony, when even Sony themselves have not confirmed that that actually happened. They are taking the cautious route by informing people of the possibility, but that doesn't mean that it actually happened. But you won't hear that on this site. Nope, the vocal minority want Sony's head and are blaming them for the hack. *sigh*

And people say that imagination is dying.

[undercovrr]

SHHH! Don't you dare agree with Anonymous, the N4G people will burn you on a stake!

[DragonKnight]

It's not exactly Anonymous I'm agreeing with. It's the factual argument that a crime was committed against Sony. It seems that making that statement of fact is going against the grain ever since this issue arose. But regardless of who is saying it, it is a fact. A crime was committed against Sony and 77 million PSN users. And it wasn't committed by Sony.

Even if it's a representative of the group known as Anonymous saying it, one cannot argue against fact. Even though that seems to be an oxymoron here on N4G.

[zoks310]

The irony of Anonymous escapes even themselves.

[Simco876]

Thats the definition o Anonymous

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Oh yea?

[Raendom]

I find it odd when "anonymous" makes a comment as though it's lead by someone... ANYONE can claim to be anonymous, that's kinda the whole point... :\

[Honest_gamer]

i think there is a chain of command ther MUST be one person who all the members look up to, listen to and is a leading figure, they just seam to orginised for a group of randoms who come together to hack, every thing has a leader even if it's an unoffical one

[KillerPwned]

I don`t think they are that dumb to go ahead and do this. But i believe its very possibly a few people acted on their own and came up with a plan of this

[starvinbull]

Anonymous probably know who carried out the attack, let them name the criminals and clear their own "reputation".

In my opinion somebody within or affiliated with anonymous was responsible.

[Rybakov]

bah anyone in Anonymous is a hacker and should just be thrown in jail

but if they start pointing fingers to 'clear there rep' then where gonna have the video game version of the crucible on our hands and thats just gonna get messy

[Honest_gamer]

um a L.A noir styled game, about a digital detective who has to follow the clues and find anon would be intersting (tho i make it should pure sh1t)

[Lawliet]

And anyone would expect they say the criminals are not amongst them? I thought just recently some boldly claimed anyone can be part of Anonymous, they would give a warm welcome to anyone who is willing to stood against Sony corporation with open hands, and that is the principal massage to all. Just 48hrs ago, a chat log which contain proofs that a small group are discussing and distributing methods to access the forbidden site in their #IRC channel. When all gamers told you cocksuckers to stop doing it, you insist, now you face the Jail hammer.

Part of the Anonymous grp, part of the criminals.

[andron]

As far as we know at this time the perpetrators of the attack on PSN are anonymous at this time...lol

[Godmars290]

Regardless of what anyone saying that they represent Anon says, evidence suggest that someone using their resources is behind this. This is a statement in irony about them fighting for free information access for the common good, and someone using their likely freely distributed methods for bad.

Its no different than Geohot claiming he's against piracy yet seeing instances of it as example of piracy all over Youtube.

[Scyrus]

blah, f anonymous

[ZeroTwoSix]

and just how is this taking down psn shit helping? i cant fuckin play anything now

[Dart89]

If i remember correctly wasn't there an article of anonymous stating."Sony prepare for the biggest attack ever".

[Tired]

More than likely decided to distance themselves pronto from one of the worlds largest illegal security breaches.

Funny that!

'Expect us!...oh hang on no don't....wasn't me sir'

[Rybakov]

when it was them anyway....there just a bunch of greed lifeless hypocrites

but then again like they say prisons are full or people who say there innocent even if they are caught in the act of what ever they did

[jokia005]

oh really?
but FBI is coming to ur room right now.
so,,,,,,,sayonara.

[-MoOkS-]

I'm 12 years old and what is this?

How can one eprson speak on behalf of a legion of millions when they have no leader?

[mummra08]

thay say it was not them why lie about it. if it was Anonymous. why would thay not admit it thay admit hacking mastercard and paypal and thay do not hack like this thay make a site overload and shut down thay do not steal. thay Anonymous will not be happy about getting blamed and will do somthing about it. and if its not Anonymous then who did it
???

[Figboy]

It's really hard to take Anonymous' word on it when, not even two weeks ago, they were boasting about planning some major attack against Sony.

It'd have to be a rather epic coincidence that shortly after their boast and then retraction of attacks, this happens.

Something tells me the main center of Anonymous got wind of this impending Sony attack, and they tried to pull out to save face. But this other arm of the group went ahead with it anyway.

That's the problem with naming your group "Anonymous" and gloating about how you "are many," you "are LEGION." Yeah, ANYONE can claim to be anonymous, and any of your many limbs can act independently of your core group.

The "real" Anonymous may have had NOTHING to do with this, but I have no doubt that their "disciples" had EVERYTHING to do with this attack.

[ironmonkey]

well more commissions and groups getting involved with this so its only a matter of time someone gets the blame. soon your legal rights to post free games, music, software and torrents will be 0 tolerated. just straight up jail. just remember next time, buy the game cards from now on. only a matter of time that hackers will be hired to find hackers.

[Gamer_Z]

I dont think they did it but i do think Geohot and Anonymous did help by showing the world how easy it was to hack sony. Now every thief/hacker around the world will try to hack sony to get some money.

[firetaw]

if anonymousness was to save there hives they should report that they are doing a thero investigation of them selfs to identify if one of there members did or did not stole the information of 70 million PSN acounts.
that the only time i will start believing a little bit of there little lies. they want to claim they are so powerful , but dont want to violate the privacy of others. they only care about there own privacy.
they want to be on our side,then side with us. if they have the power to stop this. then why dont they do something about it. they arnt fighting for the people they only want to attack.
empty word only comes out of anounymous. [we do not forgive and we do not forget sony must pay] right they sure are on our side they can close there eyes on criminals stealing our information but they cant let go of sony for taking away other os and suing the hackers that hacked the ps3.

[gypsygib]

I think anonymous has something to do with it, maybe the spokes people just don't know about it or are lying.

[frostypants]

This article blatantly stole its Anonymous quotes from a Console Monster article/interview:
http://consolemonster.com/n...

...but they don't give any credit for it.

STOP LEACHING OTHER PEOPLES' WORK! Now, FailingBolt is getting ad revenue for content they stole.

I am sick and tired of GamingBolt's antics. In their image "comparisons", they do the same thing: take images they find elsewhere and just throw them up. No credit is ever paid to whoever they got them from.

All they have to do is mention the article they found their info in, and provide a LINK TO THE SOURCE. It's called journalistic integrity, as well as common freaking courtesy.

They should be BANNED from N4G. They are the journalistic equivalent of counterfeiters and Chinese black market knockoff peddlers.

Freaking noobs. One of these days in the not so distant future, they are going to face a well-deserved lawsuit.

EDIT: I see they provided a link, but they still did not explicitly point out who conducted the interview. Point stands. And why doesn't N4G just link to the SOURCE, rather than an article ABOUT an article?

[gameseveryday]

@frostypants

Looks like you are a troll. The article clearly states this: "In an interesting interview with Consolemonster, when it was asked whether they are behind the attack, they said:"

And n4g guideline states this:

"A Story within a Story

Sometimes a site does an interview with an industry professional where newsworthy information is revealed deep inside the interview. Other websites often create separate news stories focusing on specific bits of information that are of special interest to their readers. Even if the original interview is already posted it is ok to also post these side stories if the original post did not focus on this newsworthy information. "

So stop being a troll cause I am not going to feed you. Thank you.

[BigPenguin]

Lol, you did just feed him.

[MrBubble]

Anonymous then help us track them down with the skills you have

[blackburn5]

The point is there are just to many coincidences and suspicious events. I mean it is so easy for Annoymous to say 'we didn't do it' but have no solid proof or alibi to prove it beyond a doubt. People say they are saying level headed things but con men and politicians are smooth talkers too and lie through their teeth all the time. Thetr are even people who can lie even with lie detectors on their arms without triggering it.

So in short I am not going to jump up and give Anon a hug and start asking for their forgiveness or anything. The timing is too perfect and they could easily be trying to direct the attention away from themselves to avoid angry gamers like from last time. Also remember this does fit their MO. Nothing that was really useful to anyone was taken. PSN info and encrypted card data can't really make you money.Anon could have done this knowing Sony would have to shut down their system to check it. BTW Sony shut their system down. People gloat as if someone broke in and shutdown the system.

[BlueEye]

Thieves! The hackers we so dearly hate!

[OhReginald]

hahahahaha so let me get this straight....

Annon has been threating...THREATING sony to back off of geohot or they will cause Sony harm.

PSN gets hacked, and shuts down for 9-10 days.

Causes chaos everywhere.

Playstaation consumers reported thousands of dollars spent on unathorized transactions...

Geohot says he has nothing to do with PSN being down...

and NOW annon are saying it isn't them....yea right....

....morons...