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PSJailbreak wins over Sony and Sony has to pay

In Spain, Sony imposed precautionary measures in any store that sold or promoted any PSJailbreak product, but the legal action was counterproductive because SONY was sued by the same stores and lost the case, making a precedent in that country, because it made any PSJailbreak product legal for its sale and advertising, and thats not all, SONY has to pay every legal cost to all of the stores that was perjudicated.

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Mystogan5293d ago

Well that sucks for Sony...thats completely unfair.

ajcastillo5293d ago

I know, never in my life would have thought that piracy would have won a legal battle.

thereapersson5293d ago

Doesn't it say in the terms of service that Sony has the right to add or remove features at their discretion?

Danteh5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Ummm I'm from barcelona but this is judge FAIL, how could Sony lose?? lol

I_find_it_funny5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Spain is all kind of troubles for Sony, that dude leaking some dev stuff now this.

They should concentrate on fw updates with cool features to make people update, securing this shit at the same time.

Plus as long as it's not super easy to pirate on PS3, that means:
- latest CFW
- full online
- one leading jailbrak, not many comapnies copetiting with each other, that's hella cofusing
pirating won't be too popular.

rockleex5293d ago

Obviously the judge doesn't get paid enough to satisfy his gaming hobby so he wants to pirate PS3 games.

Redempteur5293d ago

"I know, never in my life would have thought that piracy would have won a legal battle. "
you mean LIKE how nintendo lost in several countries regarding to the Ds linkers ?

it happens more likely than you think

rjdofu5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

This situation is really bad. If Sony can't find another way to combat piracy, sooner or later, there will be less high quality games produced for the PS3 because developers won't gain any profit from piracy.

Damn it, pirates. Not only you ruin Sony, you also ruin all gamers, developers and the whole gaming generation.

Rival_315293d ago

Sony should just stop selling PS3s to Spain.

Eamon5292d ago

@ Mystogan's comment: "Well that sucks for Sony...thats completely unfair."

So it's completely fair to take away a right of freedom from all consumers in Spain just so Sony can make more money?

UnwanteDreamz5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

"So it's completely fair to take away a right of freedom from all consumers in Spain."

What right? The right to buy a product that lets you steal? What are you smokin?

rockleex5292d ago

I have reason to believe Eamon is actually the judge of this case.

Theonik5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

The terms of service are not above the law, that clause is illegal.
@UnwanteDreamz
Then any tool that can be used to break into a house should be illegal as it allows people to actually commit theft. Piracy is illegal the means for piracy are not and for good reason, as long as there are legitimate uses for them and since consumers have every right on the hardware which they purchase then they are legal.

frostypants5292d ago

"The terms of service are not above the law, that clause is illegal."

Uh...no.

Eamon5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

I lol'd at rockleex comment.

@ UnwanteDreamz, firstly, governments all of Europe and US government agree that piracy is copyright infringement. Not theft.

But for your argument, let's consider it theft:
Like Theonik said, tools to break into a house should be made illegal if it allows you to steal, right?

If you have no idea how the jailbreak works then stfu. It enables you to install anything homebrew. That's it. If you install the Backup Manager program and run illegal backups, that's the individual's action.

Not the fault of the jailbreak. The same for iPhone jailbreak. You can install homebrew or you can install Installous app that lets you illegally download cracked Apple Store apps.

If Sony wants to "protect" their console as they claim they want to do, then they should deal with it with firmware updates. Not forcing new laws to ban stores from selling it.

Gawdl3y5292d ago

I don't like how the Jailbreak is instantly being associated with piracy. Not everybody who uses it uses it in order to pirate games, but rather to improve the system with features that would be too costly for Sony to add. I don't have a jailbreak myself, and don't plan on ever getting one, but c'mon, hasn't homebrew/community mods vastly improved systems in the past?

The reason I prefer PC gaming is because of the support for community-made mods (among other things, but this is the biggest reason). This extends the replay value of games infinitely, and many times things that the developers never even dreamed of being possible are done. It is the same situation with LittleBigPlanet; just look at the LittleBig Calculator on there. Not to mention Garry's Mod on the PC... Thank goodness I have both a PC and a PS3. The PS3's exclusives + the PC's features = best of both worlds.

Piracy is bad, and while some people are using the jailbreak to pirate games, others are using it for good. I really wish that a jailbreak would be made that doesn't have the "feature" for piracy, but could still allow homebrew and such.

Unknow_Master5292d ago

nice i cant wait for custom firmware and all those free game
well dont get me wrong more and more people well buy ps3 now that its hackable

morganfell5292d ago

rjdofu,

Really, really? Are you saying devs are running away from the 360? Because there isn't one popular 360 game that isn't pirated and up for download weeks before it hits the shelf.

Unlike the 360, the PS3 firmware updates and PSN requirements are harder to crack.

duplissi5292d ago

piracy didnt win anything... fair use of a product you own did.

people need to get off your damn high horse about this... even with the jailbreak it just isnt practical to pirate ps3 games for the vast majority.

i have my phone rooted and jailbroken my ipod, and i have paid in full for every app and game i have on them.

if anyone wants to tell me i dont have the right to do what i wish with my purchases (through hard earned cash) they can go f*** themselves.

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Anon19745292d ago

What does this matter? Sony's already killed the jailbreak hack with OS upgrades, and all new games require your PS3 to have your OS upgraded. Same with the ability to game online. Because one country in the EU allows a now obsolete product to be sold people think that this somehow spells big trouble for Sony and the PS3? Not likely.

Mahr5292d ago

Absolutely wonderful news.

The cases in America will probably turn out the same way, and once we get those precedents down in law, it will be easier for the modding community to get the courts to rightfully strike down the Big Three's anti-homebrew policies and firmware updates. We're bringing freedom back to consoles.

Yes we can.

Acquiescence5292d ago

but not nearly as sick as all these people on here advocating piracy. People who genuinely believe they have a right to steal and cause nothing but harm to the video game industry. Scum.

tacosRcool5292d ago

That is sad especially since it is over there in socialistic Europe. Punish the good and praise the evil. Jailbreaking game consoles only are really for pirating games. If you don't like what Sony or any other company does with their hardware, you don't have to use it then.

8thnightvolley5292d ago

AWCH...LOOL that is the craziest thing i have heard in gaming.

MephiSkA5292d ago

@Unknow_Master

What if it sells more consoles ? Sony is hardly making any money with the PS3 hardware, it all comes from software sales. Those buying the PS3 for piracy won't do any good for sony even if they do buy the system just to play pirated games.

ComboBreaker5292d ago

Now, Spain just have to legalize music and movie piracy too, and everything will be good.

The Lazy One5292d ago

@"@Theonik
"The terms of service are not above the law, that clause is illegal."

Uh...no."

that explains why Sony won the case and PSJailbreak lost I guess...

Scary695292d ago

Only in spain, let them sue companies in the United States then we can talk. LOL

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Gawdl3y5292d ago

@tacosRcool
Socialistic Europe? Might want to check your facts...

Theonik5291d ago

They lost because the prosecution was unable to prove that people were aware the feature existed, i think it's ridiculous that the defence won on the grounds of forum posts. That was only the US though, in European countries you are entitled for a refund from the store you bought the system from due to OtherOS's removal as removing features is indeed against consumer law.

Caffo015291d ago

I have a ps2 since launch and it still works.
And no, microsoft lost a cause and AFTER THAT extended the warranty to 3 years.

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Vherostar5293d ago

They will block it completely eventually I mean the latest firmware is unbreakable right now and seems it will be for a while. While devs keep forcing the latest firmwares jailbreaking means you can only play games out a few months which turns people off. For example when GT5 released jailbreakers couldn't play it. Same with COD it would work but online wouldn't. Although I would never dream of jailbreaking my ps3 I still keep on top of hacking news as I'm a techie and it's interesting.
Also unlike the 360 hack this hack is purely software based so it could in theory be blocked with a HUGE patch like Sony killed it on PSP with PSP go. 360 is hardware related hack where people mod the DVD drive so it's impossible for MS to just update the 360 and block it.

ajcastillo5292d ago

Uhm the latest firmware is unbreakable, the same people who made PSJAILBREAK have created a device that lets you downgrade any PS3 with Any FIRMWARE an thus making it PSJAILBREAK compatible with the firmware downgradeable, so now SONY has some real issues and for piracy it is not good for any COMPANY and any developer.

Vherostar5292d ago

Yeah its unbreakable but they will block downgrading and its over. Plus games like gT5 dont work properly on older firmwares. They should stick something in the firmware that's needed by future games to kill it completly.

Theonik5292d ago

That may be true but games that are coming now will never work with older firmwires until CFW is made as they are compiled with the newer FW and require it to run.

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WiiPS3beats3605292d ago

@AKA
video games are NOT a right, they are a luxury
if your poor then u don't get to steal 1, that's like saying "bums don't make much money so they are justified to rob rich people and take whatever they want because stuff cost MORE in their country" ur logic is severely FLAWED
if u believe that then u are an ANARCHIST go to Somalia where u and likeminded thinkers belong

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Undeadwolfy5292d ago

@Rival_31 Thats stupid because

1. There are those who wont Jailbreak the PS3.
2. PS3's are universal. They work anywhere from any country. No region lock.

Non_sequitur5292d ago

true but those stores making money off of Sony consoles and games will lose revenue to others.

Undeadwolfy5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

@Non_sequitur, good point, i overlooked that. Bubbles for you

Christopher5292d ago

I say go ahead and let it happen. All future games come with the latest FW that makes it fairly obsolete. There still hasn't been any progress made in create CFW.

PHOSADRA5292d ago

Who was the Jury?
Jack Sparrow and Will Turner?

commander5292d ago

Well when Sony plans to release the ps4 I know the first country that they are not going to ship too.

Mystogan5292d ago

Lol revenge is sweet,But money is also..

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gunnerforlife5292d ago

this country is broke!!!!!!!! theyll do anything to get more money from big companies there desperate! have you guys seen the prices for a week holiday in spain jheez cheapest in europe

FinalSpartan5292d ago

wow the pirates slapped sony silly.

The Dark Side is always strong..

come to the dark side lol

Neko6085292d ago

@ Eamon

You are so full of it.

If a product was created and distributed for the sole purpose of committing a crime (i.e. "copyright infringement") then it should be illegal.

I don't know ANYONE who has a hacked 360 that uses it to play homebrew games. They buy pirated games for cheap. If you think people buy these with any other intention other than to steal...er... "infringe on copyrights" you are either a fool or a crook.

socomnick5292d ago

Bought my Jailbreak last week for about 7 bucks, cant wait to get it.

Wish they didnt ship from hong kong takes forever.

Lord_Doggington5292d ago

can someone translate this poor translation (ajcastillo):

One of the reasons that the trial was based on is that legalizing PSJailbreak SONY remove the GNU / Linux where you claim Sony which sells a console with a number of features that were later removed, also talks about the user can do whatever you want with your console purchased allowing you to enter including the "guts" of the console with full right and one's Playstation 3 is not only used exclusively to play original games from Sony.

...what the hell am I looking at?

saladthieves5292d ago

This is bullshit!! It's like suing a robber for trying to break into your house and then he takes you to court and sues you for trying to stop him...and he ends up winning and you end up paying him money so that he can buy the tools to break in your house while you watch...Spain...your move was pure shit.

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rajman5293d ago

Damn thats crazy, Sony did a good job protecting it from hackers for 4 years...but now that its hacked I dont think there will be an end to this.

Seijoru5293d ago

The new firmwares have stopped the hacking plus there is no online play for hackers. Seems to me like they are doing a good job.

Armyntt5293d ago

Thats not true anymore.

hesido5293d ago (Edited 5293d ago )

Actually, Sony was hacked because of its own stupidity: someone leaked a usb device putting every ps3 into debug mode. The device was replicated, from then on, very little work had to be done to get backups running. Very little as in "I don't understand a single line of hack code", it is still an achievement in itself, but the hard work was done by Sony.

I don't understand why they needed to have such a debug functionality. For repair or whatever, it is stupid. They could have provided official and fixed debug software that ran in USB, but they had to have some simple device that allowed PS3 to be used in debug mode that ran arbitrary code. That in itself is too stupid.

A very wild theory would be this might, might be on purpose to boost hardware sales while absolutely controlling new game sales through mandatory firmware upgrades, and of course online functionality reserved for people who actually buy their games and not pirate- all the while selling hardware (now no longer at a loss) to people who don't want to spend money. Xbox has piracy too, and look at its game sales, it is not doing too shabby.

Rival_315293d ago

It wasn't "Sony" who did this. It was someone inside Sony who had to be such a backstabber to the company and sneak the device outside Sony HQ and from there it became widespread. And again normal hackers could not hack it themselves, they had to wait until the day the device was leaked.

hesido5292d ago

Whoever did it, whether Sony (I already know it is a very wild theory), or some backstabbing low-life (which is more probable indeed), it was stupid to have such a device that can turn any PS3 into a debug machine with limitless execution possibilities:

*In debug mode [PS3] could, in theory, at least look for signed code compiled by the latest available / allowed firmware by connecting online when such a device is in use that has code for execution. Sony could simply change a server side variable to tell the debug mode to not execute prior to any given firmware (of course all communication being fully encrypted)

Having such a God-like device lying around with such limited amount of protection, while all other security systems are working so sell, is stupid, even if it was only carried by Ken Kutaragi himself (theft is always possible), let alone being leaked from some Sony Developer or some repair center (which was earlier implied).

That's my take-home message

SnakeShady5293d ago

Sony can't decide what a store could sell or what could not. They could take other countermeasure. But not this one.

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kagon015293d ago

I disagree about pirating PS3 software, but I do agree you can do whatever you want with your console after all its yours...

Kain815293d ago

Than Sony has the right to ban you from the PSN, cause you dont pay for it...
i think sonys console is the most open plattform, except PC of course...

kagon015293d ago

Online, its just a plus not a necessity to gaming, unless you agree corporations have the right to control your digital content...

"i think sonys console is the most open plattform, except PC of course..."

???

Kain815293d ago

Of course the console its yours, but in the moment where do you use this jailbraker thing, you not only hurt sony, you hurt the Gaming industry, the devs behind the games you play, look in the past how many studios where closed...THIS is the reason why many independent studios are bought off by big Corporations, cause the RISK to go bankrupt is big...and independent studios cant protect themselfs...
Every Owner of a Console regadless which you prefer, has a responsibilty.

Eamon5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

Freedom 1 : Capitalism 0

Sony can ban you from their PSN but they can't impose their rules on stores who want to sell them.
People have the right to use their consoles how they want to.

UnwanteDreamz5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

"People have the right to use their consoles how they want to."

Wrong piracy is illegal so if you use the console to pirate media then you are breaking the law. Using your console to break the law is not your right. The judgement is not about piracy but about Sony going about stopping it the wrong way. You need to read before commenting man. Where do you live that it is a persons ruight to take something without permission?

Ignorance - 1 Common Sense - 0

BTW without Capitalism you might not be posting on that computer or the internet.

Kain815292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

@Eamon

Freedom? Freedom to play Games, that you downloaded illegaly? YES the Console is yours and nobody has the right to take it away from you, NOBODY. But the games you downloaded, these are not yours, you didnt payed for them and this is what SONY/Nintendo/MS and any other company, is fighting... it has nothing to do with Capitalsm. Every dev make huge investments to develop new engines/Games and in some point they do it to earn money to invest in new Projects, they have to pay all the employees...sorry but i dont know who you live, but this is the way how it works. I dont want to be the reason, if a studio goes bankrupt, because of Piracy and all the employees loose their Jobs...and think about their Families too...what i want to say is, we must take care for our actions, and capitalsm is when you make a Product and sell it beyond its vallue, in my opinion...

frostypants5292d ago

Capitalism IS freedom. It's a two way street. You are effectively saying that companies have no right to contracts with their customers.

Eamon5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

@ UnwanteDreamz. Yes, piracy is illegal. But jailbreak isn't designed to pirate. It's designed to allow people to install any application on the console. If someone installed an application that lets you pirate then using that application is what's illegal. Not the jailbreak itself.

You guys obviously have no idea about capitalism.

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Darth_Bane795292d ago

@ Eamon: The so called "Jailbreak" doesn't even deserve the name, because it doesn't allow you to do what you would do with a real jailbreak, like on an Iphone. What this piece of equipment does is allow you to copy the game from the disk and store it on your hard drive, and to download a game from a torrent website, and play it on your console; Therefore, it's specifically aimed at piracy and copyright infringement. Some investigation and less assumption would help you see clearer what's really going on here.

RedDevils5292d ago

@kagon01 this is the same argument with Mp3, even you own it you down have authorize to sell it for profit, or distribute it

ComboBreaker5290d ago (Edited 5290d ago )

12 years with no money living in their parents basement defending piracy... Makes sense...

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GUERRILLERO5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

Absolutley agree with you totally. When you buy a console, a TV, a computer, etc. you can do whatever you want, it's yours, you bought it, you already pay for it. But in this case at least Sony should prevent playing online.And for the people saying this will affect developers, it's not true, look at the xbox 360,has been hacked since almost the beginning and those consoles are selling incredible well, and not only the hardware,also the GAMES (those who has been pirated).Play the games people and forget about the PS Jailbreak, unless you work for SONY.Buy the games, play them,enjoy them.

Eamon5292d ago (Edited 5292d ago )

At above ^ learn to spell before you try to engage in a debate.

@ Studio-YaMi: In the case with you and everyone who for some bizarre reason like to worship Sony, ignorance is NOT a bliss.

Edit: I pressed the wrong reply button. Message intended at Studio-YaMi and WiiPS3beats360.

Kain815293d ago

Sony can go to 2. and 3. instances to prevent this to be coming legal.

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Sony Aims To Sell 15 Million PS5 Units This Year, but Is Shifting Focus to Monthly Active Users

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki and CFO Lin Tao talked about the state of the PlayStation business and the strategy and targets going forward, including how they're responding to the tariffs.

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1Victor28d ago

I wonder how the USA tariffs war will affect that projection. 🤔

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I think they take that into consideration when they announce their projections. Currently, after the xbox price increase, the PRO is cheaper than the series x! That is ridiculous, and it can’t last.

darthv7228d ago

you keep saying that but the price of a PS5 Pro is S699.99 (US) and the price of a Series X is $599.99 (US)

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

The series x with 2 TB storage space is more expensive than PS5 PRO which also has 2 TB storage space.

darthv7228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Oh so you are pitting a regular Pro with a special edition X... got it. If you are going so far as trying to compare apples to apples... please add in the optical drive and stand to the Pro. Seeing as the X has both of those by default.

I will help you if you are unable to do so.
PS5 Pro 2tb: $699.99, Optical Drive: $79.99, Stand: $29.99 = $809.97
Xbox Series X Galaxy Black Special Edition 2TB: $729.99

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S2Killinit27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. The series X with 2TB storage and much weaker, is… more expensive! So yeah, Im pointing out that fact.

Also, the PRO does not require a stand.

Ps: regular series 2TB is $749 (where did u get 729?)

darthv7227d ago

Its right here on the official XB site: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Okay, so no stand for the Pro, but you might still want the optical drive. So $779.98 vs $729.99. A properly outfitted Pro is still more $$ than a 2tb X.

S2Killinit27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Do I need to mention that the series x is not nearly as powerful as the PS5 PRO?

And no, the PS5 PRO runs just fine without a drive, and people don’t have to buy the drive right away, assuming they want it.

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drivxr28d ago

I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU.

RaiderNation28d ago

Because that's where the real money is made, in microtransactions.

Profchaos28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

People are spending less time playing is a typical trigger for this.

The less time spent playing the less likely you are to spend more money on games and services including subs or even the next console.

Increased engagement equals more money.

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DarXyde28d ago

Same reason Microsoft does it: it looks better to investors and it's a solution when unit sales slow down.

Personally, I'm not a fan of this metric; and by using it, you're kind of signaling that you're moving into the "This is a PlayStation" era.

Z50127d ago

Because the PS4 also has users and not necessarily sales

Obscure_Observer26d ago

"I wonder why they are shifting focus to MAU."

Because they´d finally realized that MS wasn´t wrong after all.

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Sony Announces Large Profits Growth for PlayStation; Expects Further Wins in Current Fiscal Year

Sony announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2024, and things are certainly looking up, despite a decline in PS5 sales.

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CrimsonWing6928d ago

Expect sh*t to slow down if prices aren’t kept in check.

Redgrave28d ago

Who downvotes the truth?

Even PSN itself is too damn high.jpg

S2Killinit28d ago

Gamepass is already at 20$ per month if im not mistaken.

toxic-inferno28d ago

@neutralgamer1992

Not all of us. I'm a big PlayStation fan, and have been since the PSOne. But I can't begin to defend what's happening currently.

At least Nintendo release a large number of games from their major franchises. Sony is just not banking on their established franchises, and yet are raising prices. Not great.

S2Killinit28d ago

Im pretty sure we are going to see a price increase for PRO. I mean think about it, its currently cheaper than xbox series x! That cannot last.

Eonjay28d ago

I'm absolutely sure we will not see a price increase. I don't think we should 'expect' to see price increase because it just adds validity to what Nintendo and Microsoft have done.

darthv7228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Sorry to pop that bubble but the Pro is not cheaper than a series x... generally speaking (like you are). It is cheaper than one specific version, and doing so by not including the optical drive and stand like the X has by default.

So keep on trying to convince people you are right when everyone knows it's quite the opposite. A stock Pro is $699.99 and a stock X is $599.99. A special edition galactic black 2tb X is $729.99. And if you really want to compare apples to apples... adding the aforementioned optical drive and stand brings that Pro to $809.97 and then they would be on equal footing.

Twisting truths to fit a narrative... I expect better from you S2.

S2Killinit27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

The PS5 PRO has 2TB storage. And the series X with 2TB is more expensive. Which in my opinion is insane conseidering how much more powerful the PRO is. The PS5PRO does not need a stand, it can be used without a stand.

TheKingKratos28d ago

So the Pro is not offering any push in sales at all ?

CrashMania28d ago

It's still an expensive, niche product ultimately. And they exceeded their sales projections for units sold by half a million.

lawox28d ago

"18.5 million units have been shipped during the full fiscal year. This is actually ahead of the 18 million units target set by the company."

They beat their yearly estimate. It's not broken down by device, but it's clearly performing well enough. Since it's been released it's consistently been the second best selling SKU on Amazon only after the the Slim with disc.

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Bathyj28d ago

18 million a year is in the toilet?
I remember when 10 was considered good
Hell Microsoft would take that right now.
Probably pay $100b for it.

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BeHunted28d ago

If their profits fall next quarter, we'll probably see more price hikes. I can't imagine having to pay £20 a month for PlayStation Plus.

S2Killinit28d ago

I think gamepass is already paying that much.

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drivxr28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Decline in hardware sales.
Behind on lifetime sales and decline in first party sales.
Third party content and PSN came through to save the day.
Things will improve starting with the next Ghost game.

Hopefully a steady flow of first party content by end of '25

rlow128d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I guess you get downvoted for stating facts from Sony’s own lips. What I’m curious about is what their top games of the year were and how much Xbox games contributed to the increase?

CrashMania28d ago

Well, generally 3rd party publisher games contribute the most anyway, so no different to capcom, EA and so on contributing to this figure.

lawox28d ago

That's because the report is actually really good.

They beat the console sales estimate that they set last year March, they have increased users both due to the record numbers of PS4 users and strong PS5 sales which is leading to great profits in sales and user spend.

This report is about the financial health of the PlayStation brand and as a platform PlayStation is stronger than ever. Heck they even have Microsoft putting their biggest franchises on the platform.

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S2Killinit27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Well, the facts in the article are positive. Nothing wrong with his comment, but in my opinion it doesn't correctly indicate all the facts and nuances that give context to the reality of things. I downvoted for that only.

Make sense?

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Lightning7728d ago

This is exactly what happened to Xbox year's ago. They had no first party and started seeing decline in 1st party sales, which effected their third party games which eventually effected their console sales. A slow decline across the board.

Calm down PS fans I'm not saying PS is becoming like old Xbox. I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. Look how Xbox finally has compelling first party and things are on a up swing(despite years going on a downswing). I know thanks to PS releases which helps a ton, (which is why Xbox hardware only dropped 6% instead of 30+% like it usually does) The point still stands despite what Genz Trends may go, first party and compelling games sell hardware and software still. Sony's financial quarter is an example of this, of what lower First party output looks like.

No matter they'll be right back on track in due time any time especially with DS2 (not my type of game but I know many like it) and Yotei. They're not Xbox and let things get bad for so many years on end.

crazyCoconuts28d ago

"I'm showing examples of the importance of first party output. "
First party is mostly relevant for the sole purpose of creating EXCLUSIVES that are needed to stay competitive. With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important. PlayStation as a platform now has free reign to profit without the high expense of needing exclusive first party titles.

red2tango28d ago

Sony has been very lazy with 1st party games compared to the PS4 era. And even the PS4 era was nothing compared to the PS3 era in terms of games.

S2Killinit27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

We have Ghost and Intergalactic coming. And then Marathon which is not exclusive to PlayStation. I think Covid and that chip shortage put a speedbump in game development because game manufacturers dont want even more risk that their game will arrive to too little hardware, but the games are starting to show up.

Lightning7728d ago

"With Xbox consoles collapsing and no more Xbox exclusives, first party is way less important."

Absolutely not. If that was the case then Nintendo would put Mario on Sega Genesis and Sonic on Super Nintendo. I know things are way different 30+ years later but not much has really changed in terms of exclusives and their impact on hardware. Especially early in the console life cycle.

Sony made all the money this quarter handover fist. Profits isn't a issue for them right now. I was just saying lower hardware sales and lower first party sales will hurt them or any console manufacturer of they don't have the compelling games in the long run. Just like it hurt Xbox. IF Sony keeps up not having lower first part output. Which we know they're not.

crazyCoconuts28d ago

Well no big exclusives in the last two years yet PS is doing great. What are people gonna do? Buy an Xbox?

S2Killinit27d ago

I agree with you. But they have had plenty of exclusives so far. Has it been ideal? Nope. I have a feeling we are seeing a resurgence with the effects of covid and that chip shortage now behind us.

Lightning7728d ago

No it's just like 360 where they had no games yet ppl still bought it because they sold ppl on the games early on that gen the fans were locked in and invested. They were riding the good will and was dubbed the shooter, racer box. The games dried up and they never recovered from it which hurt them in the long run. Same here with PS they still make the big bucks because they had games early on and the fans locked in and will continue to lock in for a little while longer despite lacking in first party.

S2Killinit27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I agree. But the problem with xbox was that for some crazy reason MS thought game development wasnt all that important to a platform holder. They literally did not fund games with their own studios. When they lost marketshare they couldnt justify paying for exclusives with large install bases making it too expensive. That is not the scenario with PlayStation.

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PS5 shipments top 77.8 million

PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.

italiangamer29d ago

Perfectly in line to reach 100 million by March 2026.

Profchaos28d ago

Theys have to clear 22.2 million to do this.
When you average out the current number over 5 years it's unlikely.

If the console was going down in price it would be possible but they have not been able to reduce the cost in fact it's gone up so this is working against them.

gta Vi has also been pushed out of the financial year and there's likely millions of GTA v players still on ps5 that have not made the jump those players would for GTA vi

The overall poor market conditions and uncertainty doesn't fill me with confidence trade war, weak yen and the ongoing cost of living crisis. We're not talking core gamers picking up a new system were talking gamers who wait for the back 9 to enter a new generation.

I think 2027 they will but 100 not this year.

italiangamer28d ago

They will reach 100 million during 2026.

S2Killinit28d ago

It might actually get a boost considering that even the PS5 PRO is currently cheaper than the series x. This will of course be over soon as Im expecting a price hike for the PRO.

Travesty28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I know Sony said they are considering raising prices.. Well as of yesterday China and the US lifted their tariffs standoff. At least for 90 days until they can agree on a trade deal that would benefit both parties. So with manufacturing in China and shipping them to the US I’m hoping it will not affect the prices.

Although I kind of doubt Sony will top 100 million since GTA 6 will be releasing next year by March. Could be wrong and I’ll be glad to be.

Xbox shooting itself in the foot or more like nailing their own coffin with rising prices. Hopefully Sony will stay put.. Ghost of Yotei is releasing for $70 still so that’s a god sign hopefully.

senorfartcushion28d ago

Is this a good thing for someone with no shares in Sony stock?

italiangamer28d ago

More PS5 on the market = higher chance of getting even more games.
It's not rocket science.

gold_drake28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

very nice.
in almost 5 years too.
some big hitters are yet to come

badz14928d ago (Edited 28d ago )

come on...don't say that! that slogan "Greatness Awaits" is haunting me everytime someone says this and yeah...1st party output has not been a highlight this gen which is a huge bummer! personally, I would rate their 1st party output this gen 4/10!

gold_drake28d ago

to be honest, when i typed it out, it did sound like a slogan for that ha