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CAST TV: Microsoft Xbox 360 Kinect Review

CastTv: The first official review of Microsoft's Xbox 360 Kinect. The Kinect is Microsoft's iteration of the Sony Playstation Move or the Nintendo Wii. This review covers the dashboard experience. (Kinect, Xbox 360) -

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ryuzu  +   1428d ago
Who?

Lolz at 1:44 is he break dancing heh

r.
gigaware  +   1428d ago
Must be mostly positive with a comment like that. I don't watch video reviews.
ryuzu  +   1428d ago
Shame if you watch it you may save some money - I figured I'd leave it to others to say what the conclusion of this review was.

I can give you a clue though - I didn't get the impression he was so excited he was off to play with it some more lol.

r.
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gigaware  +   1428d ago
Holy cow there are a lot of angry haters giving stealth disagrees staying up night and day 24/7 waiting in the background to monitor Kinect news and info.
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zootang  +   1428d ago
@Gigaware

Why are you defending it? Did it look revolutionary to you? Looked like the same way you would use the PSEye. I'm guessing you are new to gaming.
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hennessey86  +   1428d ago
lol
when he says its having trouble seeing him did you notice he had a camera on a tripod covering his legs, know wonder the camera was struggling what a retard
Longrod_Von_Hugendon  +   1428d ago
Looks glitchy.
lowcarb  +   1428d ago
zootang
Why are you attacking it? He didn't say anything bad about it and looking at it you can tell it's far more advanced then Eyetoy,Move, and even Wiimote. This little gadget will be great for watching media. My only concern is what happened to the finger detection? I remember the videos where the guy was searching for movies on NEtflix so please tell me it will one day it will be added.
zootang  +   1428d ago
@Lowcarb

How am I attacking it? I'm stating the obvious, look.
http://n4g.com/news/639134/...
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ChronoJoe  +   1428d ago
It was negative. The closing comment was 'glorified eyetoy'.
Masamori Sumimura  +   1428d ago
Nice to see people bashing a product that havent been on the market yet and judging Already like you've played Capcom's Steel batallion and Project Draco or Eden . I swear some of you guys call yourselves gamers but When i look at the comments lol most of you guys are Fanboys.
zootang  +   1428d ago
I swear when I see some of these comments you would think they were sheep with wads of cash. Should we not question?

@Darth72.

I suppose, thanks. Would like that $500m spent on first party studios though.
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darthv72  +   1428d ago
@lowcarb
I believe they will be using the whole hand motion. Rather than using just a finger like turning pages in a book. They opted for the hand motion of left to right, right left.

As for them bringing it back. Maybe its possible. Updates to the software have been known to unlock or expand features that werent there before.

@chrono: yeah, like every system hasnt been a glorified update from something previous. PS3...glorified PONG.

@zoo: dont be so insecure. Kinect isnt changing how we play wii or ps3. Let it go.
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AWBrawler  +   1428d ago
@lowcarb
More advanced than Wiimote? Funny! Wiimote even without Motionplus never made my character break dance and twist all up when I barely move. Face it, Kinect is going to have bad word of mouth floating around.
HolyOrangeCows  +   1428d ago
LOL @ the navigation. It takes about 10 times longeer to get anywhere.

Face recognition sign in, dragging, holding hand in one spot for 5 seconds....all took much longer than the traditional way.
gigaware  +   1428d ago
Ouch so many disagrees. So you're telling me PS3 fans are not selectively being morons and really think consumers will think Kinect will work with just a TV set? And the free game disc that comes with kinect listed on the box will be inserted in a HDMI port? LMAo
wanaraceu  +   1428d ago
Looks like a pain in the ass atm. I would have to move my coffe table and chairs everytime i wanted to play and all the set up! the casual crowd just want somthing quick and easy to pick up and play. I have a feeling heaps of these will be returned.

With the move and wii 90% of the time dont have to move anything.

On the upside i think it is some realy good tec it will just have to get utalised properly
Dee_91  +   1428d ago
i uhh
still dont see $100 worth of fun yet ..
its still awhile til christmas .. and my neice birthady in june
i just got a move and a nav controller i must say its fun.. i was comparing it to the wii lol
i always have fun at parties with my wii might start using the move instead tho when i get more games for it ... eventually.. sorecery and socom
Delicious Malicious  +   1428d ago
Hey CronoJoe, Your moms a Glorified Eyetoy
inveni0  +   1428d ago
@1:00

Did anyone else notice the Kinect tell the user to move everything out of the living/playing room? This is my complaint with Kinect. Not many people have the space to do that.
ChronoJoe  +   1428d ago
Don't put your abusive @ comments at me. I just repeated what he said in the video review. Cause I actually watched it, unlike presumably the idiots who decided to retort with a personal attack.
pixelsword  +   1428d ago
That was a pretty good review; it's potentially a good peripheral, but the ball's in Microsoft's court to make this go from good to great and be worth getting if you're not causal.
AAACE5  +   1428d ago
I hate to say it, but this guy is just not that smart!

I lost respect for his opinion once I saw he had the camera and tripod blocking his legs, which caused it to act goofy in that way! I understand he had some issues with it, I expected that, because nothing works perfectly with anything. But I can't help but wonder if some of the issues were from stupid mistakes like with the camera and tripod!
FordGTGuy  +   1428d ago
Watch the video closer
the ugly leg movements are because of the camera and tripod he was using to record the TV. It was also caused by the Kinect being to low for the guys height. He has moved it to 5 feet after the review and works better as far as he has said.
cgoodno  +   1428d ago
The whole tripod placement completely ruins this overview of Kinect for me. Why didn't he just place the tripod and camera back and to the side a bit? Seeing the screen head on isn't that important when the result is a shoddy display of the product's capabilities.
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Pennywise  +   1428d ago
lol @ hennessy
"know wonder the camera was struggling what a retard"

Honesty the irony is too much here.
yippiechicken  +   1428d ago
Did that negate his point?

"Honesty the irony is too much here."

Honesty? I suppose that's not ironic, huh?
Scary69  +   1428d ago
I want a review of a person playing games using the freaking thing not a freaking set-up that cant detect him cause he was too tall? WTF and even then is was acting up, I will wait until a video review of someone ACTUALLY playing a game gets posted. This video was more a set-up video then a review.
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lazysey  +   1428d ago
Its funny that people are comparing this to the eyetoy, but you don't hear people comparing Move to the Wii controller. From my experience, Sports champion left me with the same taste that the Wii left me with wii sports. Ideally, it doesn't have its killer app yet, and Move has just as bad of a setup as every time you play a game you have to synchronize the controller every time you play. Sure it has hocus pocus pin-point accuracy, but thats just another gimmick just like Kinects lazy-free dashboard.

Also, it may be the same concept, but TOTALLY different technology. I will go out and buy an eyetoy right now and plug it into my PS3 and see if I can do everything everyone says it could do.

And XBOX 360 fanboys, you guys need to step up your game, I'm just wondering if any of you educated, because I see these know-it-all ps3 shitheads run all over you on N4G.
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Graey  +   1428d ago
you know
watching this video posed a question. I'm not sure they guy set it up right. But say if it was set up properly. Should it have taken that long to go through all those menus and what not? Seems like a button press would have been faster, and less troublesome. Casual or not it just seems to take to long which would defeat the purpose right?
Death2494  +   1428d ago
LMAO....
and i quote: "...just a glorified eye motion camera, and we've already been there and seen that"

Burn!!!!!! Move cost me $50, Kinect cost's $150.
lazysey  +   1427d ago
@Death2494
Ya don't forget the extra controllers, camera, and sub-controllers. But you wouldn't need that, because you play games alone in your dark, dark, ....room.
Cloudberry  +   1428d ago
I watched it.
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Good video.

It shows me how Kinect would be used in the dashboard.
ryuzu  +   1428d ago
"It shows me how Kinect would be used in the dashboard."

You mean very slowly?

Really it would take an extremely lazy person to decide not to simply go get a controller and sit there waiting for second after every command for the 360 to do something....

@BELOW: I was talking about the voice option lol. You can't seriously suggest anyone would use the hand movement thing. haha.

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Zir0  +   1428d ago
Hence why there is a voice option which works right away.
zootang  +   1428d ago
@Zir

"works right away" LOL
Cloudberry  +   1428d ago
I never said anything about how the speed would look like, lol.
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At least it gives us hints about pros & cons about Kinect + the dashboard.

Some things (cons) I noticed (at least...) from the video.

* The height of the player & Kinect's placing.

* The lighting in the area.

I never actually interested in Kinect, but I gotta say about this video, it's quite informative.
Dnied  +   1428d ago
It really didnt work right away... watch the video lol

It struggled pretty hard with voice commands. Oh an like 25% of that video was probably loading/selecting interface items. lol

If the technology was ready for consumers, this video would have been recorded in under 3-4 minutes instead of 9
FordGTGuy  +   1428d ago
Troll hard enough Dnied?
Not once in the video did they repeat a command and every command was taken and worked. It was quite apparent he was doing it slowly on purpose so you could see how it worked.
Dnied  +   1428d ago
No, not trolling, just stating observations.

I'm confused as to why "Xbox" never worked or did anything when he said it, or is that not a command cuz I thought it was.

And I'm not talking about it being slow movement, I know why he was moving slowly, I wasn't implying there was a recognition delay or anything I just think it took pretty long for the windows to load up a few times..

The new dashboard update I like quite a bit because it feels a bit more lightweight and all the windows are very responsive .. with a controller.. but this just seemed like it had some unnecessary waiting around.
FordGTGuy  +   1428d ago
When he said
"Xbox" it opened the voice guide watch the video again.
EskiJoe  +   1428d ago
@Dnied
When he says "Xbox" it means he can say a command next... for example "Xbox: next" - "Xbox: cancel" the options were visible on the bottom...
beardpapa  +   1428d ago
seriously guys, i don't see how this [voice control] is a "minority report" type of control. It's slow and sluggish when compared to the traditional controller. Some of the parts like hovering the hand cursor over an item and waiting for the GUI to accept it looks very much like the EyeToy approach.

Lastly, I for one don't find it appealing having to move my things around just to enjoy this accessory. I remember the DDR pads. I had to move everything off so I can use them in front of the tv. After a play session, I moved everything back in place. It practically got to the point where I stopped playing it because it was just a hassle moving everything around each time. It is not easy moving lounge seats to the side just so I can move a heavy glass coffee table away to get enough room to play.
Triella  +   1428d ago
@ beardpapa

"Some of the parts like hovering the hand cursor over an item and waiting for the GUI to accept it looks very much like the EyeToy approach."

Exactly :
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Dnied  +   1428d ago
Ahhh gotcha, thanks..

I really didnt know that lol won't that get kind of annoying?
jack_burt0n  +   1428d ago
@triella
bubs+ "when i'm cleaning windows" lmao very funny
Graey  +   1428d ago
I agree
it seems rather slow to be revolutionary. Then again if voice thing works then you have a bit faster way of interaction. Still personally I would stay far away from it for 1 month. This is when all the press will come in.
AceofStaves  +   1428d ago
I'm interested in that application of the Kinect tech. I can't use it for gaming, but I'd definitely use it for menu navigation on my television if the tech made it into broader home electronics.
Graey  +   1428d ago
yes but
i would say you wuold need some form of physical interaction. like a thumb and hand glove. like minority report.
rekof  +   1428d ago
bro sell it while you can,..

good vid though,..
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Chubear  +   1428d ago
OH this thing is sooo full of WIN!
@1:27, that's ALLL WIN! right there... wait a minute, where are all the people who over exaggerated Move calibration screens. Kinect has way way far longer calibration screens and I'm sorry the stuff they make you have to do just to play these simple mini game thingys is crazy to me.

You didn't have to do all that with the eyetoy at all.
redDevil87  +   1428d ago
Move calibration takes like 5 seconds, i was surprised by how quick it is
FordGTGuy  +   1428d ago
Move has to be calibrated
Everytime you play, Kinect only needs calibrated once for each person.
pileobunnies  +   1428d ago
My friend was part of the Kinect beta. He had to recalibrate that sucker a lot. It kept happening over and over.
Boody-Bandit  +   1428d ago
FordGTGuy
You just said yourself a few minutes ago under this very article that the guy had to move Kinect to a different height / position because of his size. So does this mean that every person has to put the device at a different position for their height, weight and distance from the camera?

I watched this video and all I saw was a cumbersome device with "some" potential but all which can be done much faster and easier with a "controller".

I am a guy that buys the latest and greatest of nearly any product. I am looking for anything to give me the urge to go pick this device up and the more I see the more I say to myself, move along there is nothing to see here.

Height, weight, lighting, clothing, calibration, move the furniture out to make room, shut the blinds, no not that much, okay shut that one and open the one to the left halfway, nobody talk or you will confuse it, blah, blah, blah and so on.

This device appears to need a dedicated room set up just right for proper use. Plug and play ability is why I left PC gaming and returned to consoles. This device is definitely not plug and play friendly. A controller is.
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Pennywise  +   1428d ago
If that helps you sleep at night.

The device will have to be calibrated a lot I am sure. Move you go at your own speed shoulder, waist, belt buckle. 2 seconds. Other games you aim at the camera and hold a button. Keep exaggerating Moves calibration and I will be here to correct you.
FordGTGuy  +   1428d ago
No
The camera will work at the tall height with everyone but in his house its a better idea to keep it high and not low.

Brutally you are making it way to complicated.

For one a gaming room should already not have sun light hitting the TV(its bad for the TV in the first place.) No matter what you wear it will work they just said that it might work better with clothing that doesn't match the background wall. If your buying this product you should have known you would need the open space to begin with. Weight has nothing to do with it.... Height is again a one time Calibration.

Simply you can put the Kinect in one spot that will work for everyone but it someone in your house is very tall putting it higher is the better choice.

The voice commands cannot get confused as you must say "Xbox" before a command. Its not that hard to figure it out.....

Whether or not its faster with a normal controller is irrelevant as being faster is not the point of the device. The point is that you don't need to look for a controller or have to be worried about whether or not its charged to interact with your console.

@Pennywise

How is a exaggeration to say you have to do it every time when its true? Kinect at in the least remembers you and actually improves with you over time by learning your shape and movements.
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insomnium  +   1428d ago
Nice try brutal and penny.
But there is no correcting these guys. You get disagreed to hell for stating the obvious since people on this website WANTS to be blind. They have the power too so no wonder all the ps3-supporters get debubbled around here.

It was fun up until Halo Reach launched. After that it's been blind pro x360 all day long. Day in day out. You know...the Halo effect as I like to call it.

All you x360 supporters out there who are reading: Enjoy your Kinect! You didn't ask for it but it sure as hell is here now.
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GamingGamer  +   1428d ago
@FordGTGuy
it seems that you are just trolling...

Move calibration is very short...

less than 5 if you did it before.
for example, gladiator all you need is move it to your head and "click" and move it to your belly "click"

no waiting like you do for kinect.

Also, it seems that Kinect still has lagg/glitch and inaccuracy problem. just look at the skeletal tracking.

and Voice does not work very well even for native English speaker
beardpapa  +   1428d ago
from this video, it is apparent that we now know how kinect will perform in a household.

So far, the device works when we have tested it in Macy's. You have to take into consideration that Macy's has it set up in an open area with ample room to move around.
Heisenberg  +   1428d ago
@Brutallyhonest
Couldn't have said it better myself. Once you get over the novelty of it, it's far less functional and convenient than the alternative, a controller. Why people are buying this for the dashboard capabilities is beyond me, it's an undeniable step backwards in any regard, and the over the top room, lighting and positional requirements make this thing a headache to even watch someone else try to fumble around the dashboard with. But hey, what do I know, I'm just a fanboy.
ironmonkey  +   1428d ago
maybe thats why move is so accurate and kinect is glitchy
Graey  +   1428d ago
@ Honesty
Dude...post is too fcking funny

I was thinking the exact same thing. But I would never buy this thing. Its too shoddy at the moment. Trust me give yourself 1 month exactly. Wait for the reviews...just wait.

1 Month.

To many variables in this thing.
MonkeyBoy92  +   1428d ago
Personally based on this review i don't think i would have the patience for Kinect, I would just get frustrated. Although I haven't tried it yet so can't really complain.
GoldPS3  +   1428d ago
It works pretty well. Wow I can't believe I said something positive about Kinect. Anyway I still prefer controls.
WharenPeace  +   1428d ago
Nice vid
I suppose it's a plus that you (potentially) only have to calibrate once (but it really seems very tedious). My only issue with Kinect so far, is the fact that selecting menus, arrows etc. seem very slow and cumbersome. It seems like it's something that I'll only do once or twice (for novelty sake) and then grab a controller. Having said that, I am impressed that it seems to be very responsive and the fact that it "remembers" your ID is very nifty.
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Cyberpunk  +   1428d ago
My issue is
Do people really want to move all the furniture in there living room every time they want to play. Second if you live in a small 2 bedroom city flat like i do your screwed for space. I'm pro 360 but i think i get move first before i adopt this.

-Cyberpunk
WharenPeace  +   1428d ago
That's a valid point, also what about students in dorm rooms? Space is always limited in the dens of higher learning.
Cyberpunk  +   1428d ago
Exaclty
There's a whole market of people that live in small flats, town houses, studio apartments, etc and if you need around 5ft to play then its just not feasible. Only unless you dumped all you stuff on the street why you have a 15min session of kinect.

-Cyberpunk
FLOWCity  +   1428d ago
Wish he would have reviewed a game with it or at least shown one..But all in all he was good.
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peeps  +   1428d ago
moving round the dashboard with kinect just seems pointless. you would have thought movement and voice commands would be quicker than navigating with a controller but it seemed to take time to process commands as simple as 'next' where he just wanted to go to the next page. plus i think having to hold my hand over something for a few seconds would just be tedious. Like he said, he was expecting to grab it or something but kinect doesn't recognise fingers.

also the whole space, height and lighting issues sound worrying. I think even if there were launch games that interested me i'd have a tough time spending that much money on kinect because i'm not sure my room is big enough and no amount of furniture arranging will change that
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SpinalRemains138  +   1427d ago
exactly. While the idea of voice command seems appealing, the reality is that physical keys are just faster.

Hell, if voice communication were truly all that much better, then why do ppl text 80 percent of the time nowadays? Voice command is overrated. It's kind of a neat idea, but buttons are just more practical.
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TheHardware  +   1428d ago
uhmmm
really, I'm not impressed.....sorry

everything seems slower, and I can tell it will all become a chore soon...Like not being able to skip past an intro to play a game.

This is nothing like those E3 videos we saw when it debuted..../sigh
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SkyCrawler  +   1428d ago
About the E3 presentation
Its heavily rumored that the whole thing was staged and rehearsed. Not saying its fact but....
Dark_king  +   1428d ago
voice command is something Sony needs to get working on the PS3.Would be nice to walk in the room and just say play Netflix or Search Web for N4G.I don't know why Sony hasn't already done it.
SkyCrawler  +   1428d ago
Sony has done it
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Actually Sony has done a lot of things with eye. They need to market properly for desired results.
AllyOmega  +   1428d ago
Not great
The speed just isn't there. I think the cons of this device outweigh its benefits as compared to a controller in terms of navigation. Plus, I enjoy being able to lie on my couch with my controller in my hand simply scrolling through the menus, seeing what's new on the store and doing some quick and simple web browsing (yes, I only have a PS3.) It seems to take around 2 seconds to "click" on something as opposed to the almost instantaneous response of a button press. Also, the Voice recognition seems a bit iffy, as Kinect was confusing "Kinect" for "Next". Even when it did wor, it still wasn't as quick as a button. I'm not going to comment on the whole calibration problem, as he did have that camera right about in front of his legs.

Also, it wouldn't recognize his face. I'm not trying to be racist here, but could it be true that Kinect has a problem recognizing black people in certain lighting conditions and white people in other conditions? I'm not saying anything definite, it's just something that has been brought up before. After all, he was against a white wall, so it wasn't that. It might have been its lighting, but i myself can't tell. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Graey  +   1428d ago
A very
well thought out and responsive post. I concur.
anaviel  +   1428d ago
GREAT!!
Now that most of the people that don't care for Kinect has said they will not buy it there will be more in stock for us that will. That's it. Nothing more to say or see.
YOUR-MUM  +   1428d ago
Who is cast tv? Looked like he had a blast really.
SkyCrawler  +   1428d ago
How can you have fun while calibrating? From the looks of it, it didn't work while he was the process of trying to do it. He also didn't show any games.
sku7790tz  +   1428d ago
"glorified eyetoy*

of course it is. everybody knew it already.

whatever angle you look at it, the experience is the same. and eyetoy is way cheaper. and with less to no lag.
btk  +   1428d ago
We had this with EyeToy menu navigation. Move navigation of menu works better... but... standard controller works best still. The only time I navigate the menus with Move is when I play something like Sports Champions. The rest of the time the standard controller works better.
sku7790tz  +   1428d ago
i watched the video. and i can confirm the following based on the review:

1. this will flop in japan because of the huge space it requires.
2. tall men/small men (like the ones in lord of the rings) is not targeted for it.
3. poor lighting is a big issue.
4. dark people will have problems to be recognized.
5. navigating the dashboard is quite tiresome. remote/controller is still the best way to navigate menus.
6. the voice command? when you want to go to a certain area like play a movie, i will be watching it by navugating through the controller while you still convince 360 to play it through voice commands. and you have to speak slowly.
7. kinect face identification? we will see if a female has a makeup when signing in or a guy has shaven his head. that's remains to be seen. on the video, after a looong calibration process, it is having difficulty recognizing the guy. i can now see a lot of pissed-off customers.
8. it doesn't recognize individual fingers. a big setback when doing motion controls with hand gestures.

the reviewer at the end said it is just a *GLORIFIED EYE MOTION CAMERA.
---stone---  +   1428d ago
"If you see it. Just say it"

/Bill O'rielly voice .. Fucking thing sucks!

kinect hub prompt: "Please rehprase or say one of the options on hub to say"

/Bill O'rielly voice .. "I cant read that, theres no words there. fuck it... I cant do it... i cant do it"

kinect hub prompt: "Please rehprase or say one of the options on hub to say"

/Bill O'rielly voice .. This kinect thing... fucking thing sucks!!

kinect background pick of goofy tongue wagging Steve Ballmer appears with bright red font "red dot of death bitch."
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allyc4t  +   1428d ago
Looks better than I thought it would. Would like to see some games.
Pug  +   1428d ago
Lol @ 1:07

Where do Microsoft expect that furniture to vanish to in my house? Will magic elves come and move it all away and then put it back again?
Denethor_II  +   1428d ago
Looks like a lot of hassle. Considering this was designed for children I think they should have made it a bit more accessible for them.
frostypants  +   1428d ago
That's kinda the issue here: games that true geeks won't like, but a setup process that only true geeks would put up with.

Kids also often like to take their consoles and accessories to their friends' houses. This will be a nightmare for them.

Kinect will sell like hotcakes out of the gate, but I think it's going to flop quickly. Negative word of mouth travels just as fast as the good.

I said it before: this is Microsoft's "Power Glove".
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Denethor_II  +   1428d ago
"That's kinda the issue here: games that true geeks won't like, but a setup process that only true geeks would put up with."

Couldn't have put it better.
SuperDopetastic  +   1428d ago
so wait...you have to clear out your living room before you play? wtf?
visualb  +   1428d ago
yepp
=|
Game13a13y  +   1428d ago
yep, like adding salt to injury.
RonaldRaygun  +   1428d ago
Not too shabby!
Overall it seems to work better than I had thought. Good review. I'll wait for some game reviews before I make a final decision on whether or not to buy it.
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Sarobi  +   1428d ago
not impressed by what i seen, you need a specific amount of space to use this and the lighting needs to be perfect, my room is not that big at all, and my tv is mounted on the wall RIGHT NEXT to my window, so there is constantly light glaring through and off my screen, buying this would require me to buy a new house or do constructional work on my room.

oh well i enjoy using a controller and sitting down to play games anyway,
Lyr1c  +   1428d ago
I would say something.....But the video speaks for itself.
Jazz4108  +   1428d ago
I find it ironic that ps3 supporters are saying it takes too many seconds to get things done yet they will defend the ps3 when it takes a good 15 min longer to download the same demo or 5 min vc 5 sec with patches. This is no joke. I wish someone would post a video of the 360 and ps3 downloading the same game at offpeak times and you will see what I mean. I love my ps3 but I can't stand the hate for something when its clearly not deserved. If your going to rag kinect for taking too many seconds then get on sony for there very slow operating system or firmware as they call it.
mrv321  +   1428d ago
Well that whole comparsion is void when...

Most people use the PS3 wireless option
Most 360 don't have the wireless option

I have allways been lead to believe that Wired is faster than wireless.

Also, BTW To download something you have to be connected to xbox live which in turn uses your possible speed, PSN you can sign out and the download will continue, meaning an increased speed.
Kahvipannu  +   1428d ago
Jazz4108

Download speed/installing speed really isn't comparable to using interface, I do see why people think it looks slow, and I kinda agree. I don't think it's too slow, but controller/remote just works faster with less effort. Tought it's cool feature, and ment for people who are not familiar with controllers.

And in N4G there just is a lot of hate for Kinect, or anything M$ related. I have not seen one article about it here without the flood of bashing. I don't get it why people bother check articles about something that they won't be buying, don't like, or don't care about.

But I have noticed same thing about downloading speed f.ex. patches between X0 and PS3, it is sometimes noticeably slower on PS, and for example you still have to install demos after downloading, which X0 does not need.

@mrv321

X0 does continue downloading, was your console on or not.. I usually put bunch of stuff downloading before I go to sleep, turn console off, and at next morning everything is ready. And it downloads at full speed all the time neverthless, dashboard really doesn't use bandwith much.

And why wireless is slower than wired? I have used wlan three years now, and never had problems getting full usage of bandwith, I doubt PS3 is any different, it will use full bandwith, when the machine allows it. Atleast my old room-mates PS3 had zero difference between wired/wireless.

Ontopic:

Looks good. After seeing gamespots video about the games, I would buy it asap for my sisters kids, if it wouldn't be so damn expensive. I rather use that money for example PS3, so that I can play with my friends who don't have X0 (and for blurays). But maybe I'll wait if there will be pricedrop this winter. If there is confirmed such, could someone give info about it?
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patterson  +   1428d ago
After watching the video, it looks like simply setting it up is too time consuming and clunky. I can't imagine how casuals will have the patience for all that. And even after all that it was hardly responsive.

Might as well use a controller; much faster to navigate.
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jukins  +   1428d ago
but guys its gonna sell millions isnt that all that matters? lol
DevastationEve  +   1428d ago
I dunno how the same fanboys that dissed the Wii and Kinect for being gimmicky can turn around and defend Move :\ If you like motion controls then you shouldn't have much to say against either side other than personal preference.

Also, at the guy up there that said Kinect was designed for kids. Sure, Kinect could've so easily been doomed to niche audiences. But by emphsizing family entertainment Microsoft is making sure that it's for everyone. There might not be much for the core gamers at the moment but that doesn't mean that Kinect is for kids only.
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