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Enslaved takes a dig at 3D TV

CVG: Ninja Theory's excellent adventure takes a sly dig at "irrelevant" 3D TVs.

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Pedobear Rocks5364d ago

or do these guys not shut up?

Dear NT...move beyond UE3 and we'll talk m'kay.

BTW...why the F does the Enslaved website have the old PS3 spiderman boxart?

DelbertGrady5364d ago

"To be fair to developer Ninja Theory, the game is set many years in the future, by which point 3DTV tech will indeed likely be considered irrelevant. So it's not exactly a damning attack."

I think it's pretty innocent and fun that they take a dig at such a hot topic. Wonder if the 3DTV in the screenshot came bundled with glasses? ;p

nveenio5364d ago

The thing about 3DTVs is this: they'll be successful. Core gamers don't see it taking off, but they wouldn't have predicted the Wii's results, either. Finally 3DTV's aren't expensive. My local Best Buy had a 50" 3DTV for $999 this week. That's a good price even for 50" that's NOT 3D.

As for the article, everything is irrelevant after the apocalypse.

Army_of_Darkness5364d ago (Edited 5364d ago )

". "What is this stuff?" asks burly Monkey. Trip replies: "old jettisoned, irrelevant technology..."

Going as far as saying how irrelevent 3dtv is in their game is kinda pushing it in my opinion, considering how Sony is 100% supportive of everything 3D and all....

santa monica studios needs to shut these cunnts up by making heavenly sword 2 in a way that will make the first one look like a PS2 title.

BISHOP-BRASIL5364d ago

I think you guys are overreacting to NT now.

The game is on the future, everything from our era would be obsolete by that time.

And the fact you can even find this means it was around by apocalypse, just think of fossils, the fact that you can find any fossil means that probably there were a lot of those around, as the natural course is decomposition, not preservation, you would need many dead decompost to see some preserved.

Now, a 3DTV isn't a fossil, plastic don't decompose like that I know... But I'm just saying the fact they expect to people in the future to even know what 3DTV is shows it's not a dig at Sony at all. Most people around today don't know what a 3DTV is... Heck, many people are just now realising what makes an TV a HDTV one.

Moonboots5364d ago

Are you really taking this personally?? Like you own Sony or something.. Or even more ridiculous that Sony invented 3D and if we talk about 3D it's got to be Sony.

Wow, the corporate loyalists here make me cry for humanity.

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jay25364d ago

I wonder what their tech is, I wish they said V.R maybe.

And yeah it is a big deal when you lose 15-40GB of space. Maybe, just maybe Bungies new engine will actually make it 720P, not like their xbox 1 upgraded one.

edhe5364d ago

Yet again:

Media space does not make the resolution of a game.

It's only been years to learn that one eh?

NB Bungie isn't 720p because they draw 2 frames for every frame in order to get much clearer definition in their lighting.

"In producing Halo 3, Bungie opted for a number of technical decisions that defined the very look of the game, leading to both good points and bad points in the overall presentation. The game implemented HDR lighting by rendering the whole scene twice at different light levels and combining the two images (a process similar to some forms of proper HDR photography). This meant that the lighting in the game was absolutely sublime for its time, but it also meant that the game itself operated at a sub-HD resolution in order to fit those two render processes into the eDRAM, plus there was no room for hardware MSAA support.

Reach manages to up the resolution to nigh-on full 720p, while retaining HDR and employing an inordinate amount of dynamic lights - every needle from the needler is a bespoke light source, for example. It strongly suggests that another major innovation is the implementation of some form of deferred rendering"

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

SuperM5364d ago

So let me get this right. Bungie isnt doing 720p because they decided to render their image twice for better lightning effects? Doesnt seem like that worked out for them, because halo 3 looks bad, and telling me what they did to make it that bad isnt going to make it look better.

I do however respect the fact that the game would probably look even worse in 720p because of the sacrifices that has to be made. But that doesnt really put Bungie in a good "light" either.

jay25364d ago

Sorry, I ment the comments as two differnt sentences, I'm well aware of the fact considering I'm in the last year of a games developing degree.

IHateYouFanboys5364d ago

@SuperM: "Bungie isnt doing 720p because they decided to render their image twice for better lightning effects? Doesnt seem like that worked out for them, because halo 3 looks bad, and telling me what they did to make it that bad isnt going to make it look better. "

the HDR lighting in Halo 3 is still probably the best HDR lighting in any game on these consoles. its absolutely beautiful to look at. with the 360s hardware upscaling, you wouldnt even be able to tell the difference between Halo 3 being in 720p or 640p or whatever it is.

and btw, if you PS3 fanboys want to claim GT5 as 1080p natively, then Reach is 720p natively too. they both have the required vertical resolution for those respective resolutions, and thats all that matters to PS3 fanboys apparently. doesnt matter if GT5 is 200x1080, its still 1080p apparently.

on the topic, nice little kind-of easter egg by Ninja Theory. i personally dont care if 3D never takes off and goes back to the drawing board ready to come out and give it another shot in another 15 years like it has done now. im quite happy with 2D, and even the best 3D movies in the cinemas still have noticable flickering and things that take you out of the experience.

callahan095364d ago

I wonder why they have so much negativity. Every word that comes out of their mouths is some kind of negativity. Just be positive and talk about the hard work you put in or talk about the quality you're striving for, but stop being that guy that just has to downplay and blast everything and make excuses and be all bummer all the time, it's very unbecoming.

Ares84PS35364d ago

I'm not sure where they are comming from. They have a decent game on their hands, maybe two. But come on.

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Empowering Creators and Players With Muse, a Generative AI Model for Gameplay

"Introducing Muse, a new kind of generative AI model that lets you play and create. From developer ideation to one day supporting game preservation, Muse holds potential to unlock new possibilities." so says Microsoft

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Abriael115d ago

Absolutely slimy to use game preservation as a thinly-veiled excuse to continue peddling generative AI garbage. 😡

Eonjay114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

MUSE
Massive Unmitigated Suspension for Employees.

Lets get this straight. When they say its to asisst creators, they mean assist executive managment. Tell me this, if companies stop paying real people to do real work, who is going to be able to buy anyone else's AI generated products in the first place?

Abriael114d ago

You're definitely preaching to the choir. If you read my own version of the news (it's in the alt sources), it's one of the few times I took the fuc*ing gloves on. I was pissed all day after reading this crap.

Jingsing114d ago (Edited 114d ago )

Microsoft's latest push into mediocrity and billions wasted. I do wonder if Microsoft will eventually meet the same fate as Intel.

staticall114d ago

They need to replace Xbox execs with generative AI. It'll do less damage than Phil and the gang for sure

> a first of its kind generative AI model trained on Ninja Theory’s multiplayer battle arena game, Bleeding Edge
Yikes
This is a "Coming soon" from their gaming copilot thingy they're so proud of https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Dunno, feels and looks awful to me

And they didn't explain how they're planning to preserve older games, just some world salad
> To imagine that beloved games lost to time and hardware advancement could one day be played on any screen with Xbox is an exciting possibility for us
This doesn't explain anything. How can they run the older games without hardware it's tied to? Magic?

Whole article actually feels like a world salad galore. Did they use AI to write this?

P. S.: Calling it «Muse» is disgusting.

jznrpg107d ago (Edited 107d ago )

At Xbox we shit on our employees and our customers. Now who is going to buy this nearly no effort game?

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Playback: Enslaved Odyssey to the West

TSA revisits Enslaved Odyssey to the West to see how it holds up.

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Relientk77298d ago

Such a great game. I really wish we got a sequel to it.

darthv72298d ago

This is a pretty good game. Im glad its backward compatible on xbo/series

Venoxn4g298d ago

Great game, enjoy the DLC as well

bamboo313rd298d ago

So under rated. Just played it with lossless frame generation and 4k. 144hz.

0hMyGandhi297d ago

fantastic game. Criminally underrated. Yes, the combat was overly simple. But the sound design, world design, characters and lore were absolutely top-notch.

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Unfortunately, Ninja Theory Isn't Actually Safe From Microsoft

Ninja Theory might have games in the pipeline, but that doesn't mean Xbox won't close it for no reason

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rlow1388d ago

Alot of speculation on their part. Ninja Theory has two games that have been green lighted and are in the works. Yes it’s always a possibility they could be closed but no matter how you feel about the Senua games. They do make a quality game. I personally think MS is going lay low for a bit, after the firestorm they experienced last week.

darthv72388d ago

I really hope one of them is a long awaited sequel of heavenly sword or enslaved. Both are good games that deserve a 2nd chance... or at least a reboot.

blackblades388d ago

I'm 100% doubt its heavenly sword for obvious reason and Enslave 99% doubt it.

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Rynxie388d ago

Santa Monica is a great studio, but I would rather the minds behind the original make it (ninja theory). I never liked sequels that were done by someone else, they are usually never as good as the original.

rlow1388d ago

Enslaved would be awesome. If they did a remaster, then the next game in the series…..one can hope.

Yui_Suzumiya388d ago

Hopefully they'd get Evan Wells back for a sequel to Enslaved. After the original Enslaved he went on to Naughty Dog and did The Last of Us.

neutralgamer1992387d ago

darth

HS IP is owned by sony and enslaved sold so poorly that you want a sequel now? let's say a sequel is made and sells like the first than this studio is for sure shut down. Their next game needs to be a big hit(if there is a next game)

rlow1

that's not how business works, if a studio needs to go it will go whether ot not that will come with negative PR. They just spent 100 billion and now they are in the phase to find out which studios will survive and which needs to go to cut costs. NT let a huge opportunity slip away, they had the backing of MS and the sequel has even less gameplay, that makes zero sense

Chevalier387d ago

How?! Sony owns one IP and Bandai owns the other one

Plague-Doctor27387d ago

Heavenly Sword IP is owned by Sony and Enslaved IP is owned by Namco Bandai

Hellblade was the only IP that Ninja Theory themselves owned when MS acquired them

Sonic1881387d ago

Heavenly Sword or Enslaved didn't sell that well

Cacabunga387d ago

NT completely lost it since dmc, their
last good game to date! And has been a long time since.
An average studio at best, got lured by MS money and forgot to improve

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Rynxie388d ago

They make quality games, but they're usually hit or miss. Either they are average, or they are awesome. However, besides heavenly sword and DMC, they aren't big sellers either. Ms is as big of a corporation as it gets. If ninja theory isn't making them money, they will shut them down. Simple as that.

MrDead388d ago

Studio survival no matter who is reliant on MS's quarterly reports, if MS is looking to save money then studios like Ninja Theory are gone as we've seen with Tango and others. MS has their IP's, the devs mean nothing to them but a handy tool to balance the books with layoffs.

DarXyde388d ago

Eh, maybe. Microsoft seems like a phenomenally wealthy company that's (generally) wise with how they handle their finances. What they're not wise with is how they spend social capital. As soon as they get it, they spend it by doing something nefarious. Can't say they're the only ones of course.

Will they get rid of Ninja Theory? No earthly idea. Honestly, I have a hard time even speculating about it because we don't have any details on performance metrics. If I had to guess... And really, this is is a guess... It's just about engagement. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. If you've got a popular mobile game or MTX-heavy multiplayer game, you're safe. King and Activision aren't going anywhere. Even if player count tapers off, MTX keep them in the game as a form of engagement.

But then you've got single player games. I suspect that's a losing battle because single player games, unfortunately don't get long term engagement broadly. So games launching half baked is perhaps a strategy for the studios themselves to get people coming back to their games? It would make some sense, but it doesn't match with studios being surprised at the closures.

All of this to say, we'll just have to wait and see. The simplest explanation with the most streamlined thinking on the matter is just that they're getting rid of studios they see as dead weight in the long run. HFR was quite well received, but I guess it doesn't translate into happy investors because it's critical acclaim and not commercial success exactly. Bethesda isn't going anywhere. Making very long RPGs kind of saves you automatically in terms of engagement.

But on the other side of this, while studios don't close per se, nothing stops them or any other company from just cutting the work force within each studio.

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Einhander1972388d ago

It's not for no reason.

The reason is they made two games that were underwhelming (Bleeding Edge) and didn't/aren't going to grow the user base for game pass.

They spent 5-7 years and this was what they produced, it's easy to see how they would be on the short list for termination at this point.

Sciurus_vulgaris388d ago

One thing to point out was that all the recently closed studios were under Bethesda. Before being purchased by MS, Bethesda had a slew of poor or under performing titles (Evil Within 2, Prey (2017), Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, Young Blood, and initially Fallout 76 ). I don’t think, Ghost Wire Tokyo, Deathloop, Redfall and sadly even High-Fi: Rush performed well after the buyout.

Einhander1972388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

I bet this game with a 5-7 year dev cycle being launched directly onto game pass is going to generate less tangible cash profit than any of those games.

I'm sure Microsoft will brag about players or sword swings or some other pointless statistic, but those don't make cash money.

Chevalier387d ago

You do realize it took 3 platforms and like 2 years to sell 1 million for Hellblade 1 right? Added in 3 more platforms and it didn't move much.

Now cut our 4 platforms. How many copies do you think this will sell?! Not just played on Gamepass

Lightning77388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

Apparently Ninja Theory is safe From being closed down https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Already working on a new game. They are a 80 person team and relatively inexpensive I suppose to any other publisher

Buuuuut.

Yeaah sorry this is MS, I don't believe anything MS says. They have to be joking if they think anyone will believe them besides gullible Xbox fanboys. Once again MS needs to earn my trust back. Just when they earn some trust back, they always seem to destroy it and have to work to get it back. I still think they're getting shut down and canceling whatever game they're making because the game won't sell, again MS fault for not advertising it.. This company man...

FPSRUSSIA388d ago

the article talks about that to i recommend checking it out when you get a chance.

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outsider1624388d ago

The problem with this game probably not selling will be because of Gamepass. Every comment i see from xbox players are "dude, no need to buy this amazing game, just get it on gamepass"

Will it sell well based on word of mouth? Will they release it on ps5? Will ps players buy this game vs free on gamepass? Time will tell.

JBlaze226388d ago

Look at what happened to Hi Fi Rush.The game was sold on PS5 and didn't sell well.

JBlaze226388d ago

I mean Sony has done worst and no one speaks up about it.

outsider1624388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

Well i dont know about hi fi rush..as i didnt buy it. I mean others are getting it on gamepass..so ill just wait it for psplus. Im guessing others are doing the same..soo..

Sure Sony has done it too..and people are vocal about it. Look at the helldivers fiasco for example..they got called out.

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Knightofelemia388d ago

I don't see Microsoft shutting off the lights to Ninja Theory. As a studio they actually have talent and have released some decent games. I love Enslaved maybe a sleeper hit but it's one of my favorites. Only way I see Microsoft shutting off the lights is if Ninja Theory releases games that sink faster then a lead weight. And there are fans of Ninja Theory one thing I would hate to see is Ninja Theory ending up like Bioware. Loosing all their talent and being a former shell of what they use to be.

Elda388d ago

Never say never. Tango Gameswork were just as talented as Ninja Theory & they were shut down.

darthv72387d ago

And they were also under Bethesda... Ninja Theory is not.

Profchaos387d ago

I honestly blame starfeild and Microsoft for the closure of arkane and tango it didn't turn a profit like other huge Bethesda games. If it .are fallout 4 money Bethesda would have had the capital to share among the other studios. Microsoft should of also had the ability to step in and save the studio but decided to kill them instead likely because of Bethesda's financial failure with starfield and Microsoft's stupid goal of turning gaming into a subscription that everyone and their grandmas subscribe to

shaenoide388d ago

To be honest for Microsoft (not Microsoft gaming) it's all about making for the 70 billion purchase of AKB. No matter how good the games are. If they don't generate sales or new gamepass subs the studios can be shutted down.

Rynxie388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

Yes, they make decent games, but do they sell? Unfortunately, no. Heavenly sword sold 1.5 million, even when the ps3 had a much lower install base than the 360. However, it's not a ninja theory ip. Enslaved sold poorly. DMC, sold well, but that's also not a ninja theory ip. Hellblade was a hit, but in my opinion, barely. Hellblade 2, unfortunately, might be a flop. There's no bigger corporation than Ms, they are as corporate as they come. If ninja theory isn't making them money, they will get shut down and their ips giving to another studio.

Elda388d ago

It was just announced that MS gave NT the greenlight for its next game. I just hope it's not another Hellblade. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/...

shaenoide388d ago

Tango was working on a new game.

jznrpg388d ago

Xbox - Green light
MS - Red light

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