Square Enix: “Don’t Review FF14!” Players: “38%” (Site NSFW)

Reportedly Square Enix is demanding the gaming press hold off publishing any reviews of Final Fantasy XIV until a month after the game’s release; unfortunately, players seem to have jumped the gun and are publishing their own less than favourable opinions of the game.

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[Marcello]

Why does this not surprise me ?? anything SquareEnix make is rubbish so why should this game be any different.

Just resign Wada FFS!! you have driven the brand of SquareEnix into the ground

[Jamie Foxx]

to which reviewers didnt respect, MAG from launch till when you got your upgrades was a completely different game

[Biggest]

This specific site has done nothing but cry about any and everything FFXIV related. If FFXIV gave players $1000 a month they would complain that SE is trying to buy favorable comments.

[Dragun619]

Honestly, when dealing with MMO's, I think people should just offer their opinion on the game and not rate the game out of ten. It would have certainly helped MMO's in the past like APB.

[HolyOrangeCows]

The latest twisted information from the cartoon child porn site, I see...

[NecrumSlavery]

Square has done so many bad things this generation to the fans, no one owns them a kindness...

[AndrewRyan]

Don't say to respect MAG when its updates were much better. They should have fixed the game in the first place before releasing it so it was their own fault. That is like saying, "Hey guys I am a senator of Florida, but you should all respect me like the president because I am going to be president next year!"

[Vlaitor]

Alright, this isn't inteligent or is it actually adding anything up to the plot but here it goes...

Vagina

[InactiveUser]

A month after release? What a bunch of BS. That should tell you something. The game's probably a 6/10 at best.

[Caffo01]

if you had played a MMORPG in your life you would understand that 10/20 hours into the game are nothing you can judge about...this is a genre that needs thousands hours of play to fully understand and appreciate...and SE doesn't want to do that, only want Reviews to come out after a month!!they want you to try the game enough to judge it!!after playing for 20 hours you probably have seen 0,5% of the game!
MMOs usually die because of ppl give up too easily or buy games based on reviews coming out after 2 days from release!
Just try it and you'll understand, if not it's YOUR LOSS!

[InactiveUser]

Yea, I've played RPGs before. It doesn't take a month AFTER release to review a game, when they already had review copies prior to release of the game. (I'm talking the bigger sites and magazines obviously)

How long does it take to grade Graphics? 5-10 minutes? 1 hour?
How long does it take to grade Gameplay? 1 hour? 5 hours max?
How long does it take to grade Sound quality? 1 hour?
etc. Most categories don't take a month+ like you're suggesting.

Now if you're talking the grade for Story, yea, that's going to take some time, but still not a month after release when sites get review copies months before release and it's literally their job to play them.

If they're that worried about premature reviews, instead of delaying them until a month after release (so people buy their game blindly; uneducated about the product's potential), they should be giving the reviewers earlier review copies.

I fully understand they take time. It seems you didn't factor in blinding the public for the first month's sales, so they don't get any criticism.

As far as 'User' scores go.. fanboys of other systems will downvote another system's exclusives. So if that's what they're addressing, then they're simply wasting their time.

[Simco876]

I agree that SquareEnix is going down a horrible path, but they have made some good games in the past... just come back to greatness Square please!

[Marcello]

Well i cant think of any game they made that was good. unless of course you mean Squaresoft ? now they were divine, true masters of game making, sadly no longer with us. Best thing we can hope is that Wada just trashes it so bad that Sony buy more stock & take control :)

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

FFX, FFXI, KH & KH2 were all, at least, GOOD games, arguably great. There are other arguably good games from them as FFXII and KH spin offs... Squeenix just seen to really suck at this gen consoles, FFXIII, Crystal Bearers, Last Remnant and Infinity Undiscovery all sucked donkey balls.

[Marcello]

FFX & KH1 were both true Squaresoft games and were great games. FFXI & KH2 were SquareEnix games but i have never played either of them nor even seen them playing so i have no opinion on those 2.

[Millah]

FFX and KH were Squaresoft games. And then FF12 and KH2, under Square Enix, weren't as good as their preceding games.

This is what happens when competitors merge. And this is why competition is good. Squaresoft and Enix should have never merged, they were the two titans in Japan for RPGs and competed heavily against each other. Take away that competition, turn them into just one giant corporation, the result is nothing but trash with corporate idiots like Wada setting the vision instead of the creative visionaries who actually had passion for things other than money.

And to think that Wada has actually voiced that he thinks ALL Japanese developers should merge together into one giant corporation. My God. This guy has got to be one of the biggest asses in business. He doesn't have a clue, it boggles me to think how he even got any power to begin with.

[Organization XII]

ever since square enix released FFXIII on the 360 I completely lost faith in one of my favourite game developers of all time, I never thought square will go that low and make an FF game on the 360...I dont trust them anymore, let them go suck on Billys c0ck...

[princejb134]

is anyone even buying this game
just the monthly price itself makes me not wanna buy this

[kevnb]

but aprrently it sold better than they thought it would, without even giving any reviews. Theres a certain group of people who loved final fantasy 11.

[kevnb]

aion got plenty of terrible reviews, but nobody cares about reviews.

[Abriael]

it shouldn't surprise anyone. But for a different reason than you think.
No MMORPG should be reviewed near it's release, and any journalist (or wannabe journalist) that does so simply lacks the credibility and integrity to do that job (or hobby).

Reviewing a game fairly requires playing at least a majority of it. better actually finishing it.
Reviewing a MMORPG fairly, as complex creatures as they are, requires even more time. You simply cannot review a MMORPG over the first few levels and a few scrawny hours of gameplay. It's like reviewing a normal game having played just it's prologue.

"3 or 4 weeks" of gameplay are more or less what it takes to know a MMORPG deeply enough to write a fair review of it. There's no escape from this, and if you find a review written much earlier than that it's a clear signal that you're reading a review written more out of hearsay, wishful thinking and hot air than actual facts and experience.

Also, you simply can't review a MMORPG fairly based on the usual inevitable launch idiosyncrasies that normally will be cleared a couple weeks or so after launch (actually FFXIV has been fairly smooth in that, with rather stable servers and client compared to the average, but still)

People that think that the media should review MMORPGs earlier than that should remember the Age of Conan debacle. The game was reviewed hastily by journalists that played only the first few levels (that were fantastic), but were followed by ages of nothingness, boredom and lack of polish. It got chains of 9 and lots of customers were tricked by the revews into buying the game, only to find themselves sorely disappointed as soon as the first few levels were past them.
There's an easy lesson to be learned there. Lots of journalists lost any credibility they had with those 9s.

Oh, by the way, of course if you take Sankaku Complex seriously, you really are in a bad position. They always had a huuuuge agenda against Square Enix and any of their games. They simply have no credibility in any matter regarding them. Reading any of their past articles will show that.
Even in this case, they're warping reality to make it look bad:

Square Enix didn't "Demand" anyone to hold off review. As a reviewer myself I've been contacted with the same message everyone received.
They asked quite nicely and there were no demands, threats or anything like that. They actually didn't even say to hold off writing about the game, and suggested to post impressions and similar things before the review.
But of course in a site that's intentionally trying to spin it negatively, this simple request has turned into a "demand".
Personally, I think it's fair, and I wouldn't have posted my review earlier than that anyway. I want to offer my readers something more solid than educated guesses, hearsay and wishful thinking.

Also, are we really talking about Amazon reviews here? Since when 2chan goons dragged down dragon quest 9 to 1 star (exactly the same thing that the same people did with FFXIV), everyone should know that they ceased to be any form of news.

Bottomline, Sankaku Complex isn't exactly a source of fair or honest reporting about this game or any other Square Enix game (actually, any game). Pay it no heed and move on.

[SonyPS360]

..if Square Enix don't want their game to be reviewed until a month after it's released?

How can they expect people to buy it when they don't even have faith their own game will be a critical success?

[Caffo01]

they have faith in it...just read the comment above yours to understand why they want the game to be reviewed after a month..

[knifefight]

The day I take seriously anything that comes from a website that glorifies child molestation and whose news almost entirely consists of statutory rape + erotic pictures (like sankakucomplex.com) will be the day the sun don't come up.

[Raoh]

i'm actually enjoying ffxiv.. its a nice upgrade from ffxi.. needs work but most mmo's get better over time..

wada should still resign..

[Godmars290]

Still, when you look at games like Aion, Blade and Soul, or especially Guild Wars 2, FFXIV hardly looks impressive.

[Abriael]

Seriously? You may want to look at some actual screenshots side by side. FFXIV literally destroys the games you named as of looks.

[Godmars290]

I have looked at all of them, especially in terms of gameplay, which is why I said exactly what I said.

[Caffo01]

Aion?!? really??it was hyped to hell and now it's only another shitty game...
and guild wars isn't out yet nor it has started beta testing so i don't know how can you say that!

[jukins]

yea im with you on that. no mmo should be reviewed on release. usually there's so much to do. i havent gotten ffxiv yet but i remember with ff11 i hated it cuz i died so much early on and kept delevling and gave up on it for a few weeks. decided to try it again and was hooked for 3 years

[Heartnet]

Yeh you cant get through all the content in less than a month but u shud still review it lol its just them telling u not to means that they have no faith in there game lol

[ArtsyGamer]

If you liked FFXI, check this game out, it's enjoyable and shows lots of promise for the type of MMO it is going for. This is not WoW, it doesn't want to be WoW or Guild Wars 2, it's a totally different experience.

[INehalemEXI]

It is true MMO's take time to mature with patches, and expansions. The priority's are screwed though, I mean that is a lot of resources going into this. Why do we see this game before a game everyone asked for. So many ways to please the fans but what brings in money like clockwork is an MMO. I might pick it up for PS3 later if Versus delivers.

[darkdoom3000]

Oh square... look how far you have fallen.

[BannedForNineYears]

Meh, the reviews FF14 has been getting are looking good.

[SonyPS360]

Reviews from who?

Fans? The public? Those are pretty irrelevant.

[ndibu]

Why? Because when it tanks, and it will, people will realise as with FFXIII, x360 had nothing to do with it's "failure"

[Meisadragon]

facepalm. 360 has everything to do with ffxiii failure.

[Mystogan]

No it wasn't , the 360 got a PORT(not specifically developed for the 360) so it would have stayed the same if it was only for PS3 and it uses like 5 discs or something? they had to cut content from the 360 version

[stragomccloud]

Dude. 360 version was just a port. Everything wrong with FFXIII stems only from gameplay design.

[Run_bare]

I bought final fantasy since FF 8, looking forward to FFXIII, but it was MEH.. very nice graphically, but gameplay so bored, can't stand playing again after it finishes.

[Biggest]

English lesson for my good troll buddy. It's is the contraction of "it is" and should not be used when explaining possesion. You should already know that the 360 isn't slated to get this game because of the Xbox Live restrictions. You should also know that FFXIV is a MMORPG and not a regular RPG. The only thing FFXIII and FFXIV have in common is the fact that both will be played on the PS3.

[n to the b]

ok I have to:

don't get all high and mighty. IT'S possession, not 'possesion'.

[visualb]

what an ******* horrible argument.

and...FFXIII didn't fail =| it just wasn't up to FF par, largely due to Nobu's absence and Wadas reign...

but it won't ever see the light of day on the 360, Live doesn't work well with MMO's, so you can dance naked in a party hat =3

[SonyPS360]

People who blame a game's failure on it being available on another console are retarded anyway. This mentality is only shown by ignorant sheep who know nothing of game development.

Anyway I'm getting sidetracked.

Looks like WoW's next expansion won't be getting any competition, as usual.

[Kran]

Look. When you release a game, it has to be emersive from the start, not when you are half way through playing it. (Yes I know its an MMO)

Besides, players won't listen so theres no point in trying.

[BigPenguin]

When WoW released it was the buggiest piece of crap with 3 completely broken classes(rolled a warrior day 1, still my main). Say what you will about how fun you think FFXIV is, at least its playable.

MMO's lay the groundwork for release, then add content through patches. This is how every single MMO works, don't hold FFXIV to a different standard.

[Arnon]

Implying FFXIV has any features to talk about. Rather, it's missing core features that actually make MMOs accessible. FFXIV should be marked down for these, not given the benefit of the doubt because Square-Enix rushed the product out, which most still consider a beta.

[Kran]

@bigpenguin

A final fantasy fanboy ¬¬

[Abriael]

@Arnon: but it has lots of features to talk about. For instance the best class and crafting systems on the market.

It's not a matter of giving the benefit of the doubt, it's taking the necessary time to actually experience and know something about a game before writing a review on it. Thing that any journalist with any credibility and integrity should do even without being asked.

[King-Leonidas]

the game looks great though. I don´t understand how square enix managed to mess this up.

[-Gespenst-]

Play fair. You can't give a proper review to anything massively mutliplayer until you've spent a good deal of time at it, at least from a gameplay perspective anyway.

Everyone knows that success in MMO is largely based off the time you put into it and not necessarily skill.

[dumahim]

Sounds reasonable to me. I don't see how anyone could make a complete review of an MMO without getting deeper into the game.

[Troll-without-Bridge]

160 ratings? so much shit over 160 ratings?

Lol.

And lol at the website.

[Apotheosize]

The games unfinished, its plagued by a lot of things that just dont make any sense. *hopefully* they get it sorted out by the time the PS3 version is released.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I am massively disappointed by FFXIV. The game just feels unfinished. I gave it a 2/5 on Amazon and a 4/10 on Metacritic. I'll be awaiting a big patch before resubscribing, and until then it'll be Cataclysm for me.

[Kurisu]

Hopefully that "big patch" will arrive in time for the FULL launch of FFXIV, when it releases for PS3! Can't wait to play it :)

[KillerPwned]

FFXI was pretty but this one god i just could not get into it. I guess ill be waiting for Guild Wars 2 if i ever decide to get into a MMO. I don`t like having to pay to play a game. So that is where Guild Wars would come in for me.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Agreed. I had a 75BLM on Asura, but FFXIV isn't enticing enough for me to even go past level 20.

[Biggest]

FFXI was WAY worse than FFXIV at release. Lucky for us non-Japanese, we didn't get to deal with the crap. By the time we got the game all of the good stuff was incorporated and the bugs were cleared. There was an eight month gap in regional releases. I'll give them that much time to improve this game from a beautiful grind fest with no purpose, into a fully featured MMO.

[vx]

and stop using this weak excuse , cuz
1- FF 11 was SE first MMO
2- It has been almost a decade for FF11
(made in china indeed)

[blasian]

It had so much potential... I stopped my WoW subscription 2 months ago.. I think i know what needs to be done unfortunately.

[Kran]

I mean the beta didnt even work well :/ Well it wouldnt work for me anyhow.

[tweet75]

one of those special games....

[PSK22]

Breaking News!!!!!Final Fantasy XIV sucks and I'm not buying it!!!!!!

[Marceles]

Even though Sakaguchi practically bankrupted the company with the Final Fantasy movie...BRING HIM BACK!

[ChronoJoe]

lol one of the links on that site leads to Japanese porno.

On my browser it does anyway >_>

[Leonesaurus]

I don't know what everyone's fuss is about in this forum.... But Final Fantasy XIV is fucking AWESOME to say the least, even with it's frustrating "target is already engaged" bugs and shit. Giving this MMO some time to adapt and evolve to its players would really make it grow it something great.

I say give the game it's time and THEN review it, it's only fair.

And FUCK all these assholes on this site who are talking shit about FFXIV... Yeah, you know who you are. If you want to talk shit, take it to the developers, but leave our game out of it. Play the game first and then come back and talk shit. And if you have played it, then tell me why it sucks so much, or get lost.

[Arnon]

It's leveling system is terrible due to the fact that your physical level never changes, forcing you to be proficient at only one discipline because the reassign button gives you a small fraction of what you spent in points thus eliminating the purpose of being able to switch jobs in the first place. There's no auction house, 80% of the "ranks" are crafting ranks which is unnecessary, and could have easily been made into a sub-category like FFXI had. The servers hardly work, there's about 6 areas in the entire game thus far, and about 4 missions total for you to do in regards to the story.

The game is poorly optimized, requiring you to have an Intel Core i7 920 which is absurd considering Crysis required an Intel Core 2 Duo for optimal performance. You have to go through 6-7 menus just to begin synthesis. Areas have recycled landscapes, easily removing you from any immersion. And to top it all off, you're being charged $9.99 for the monthly fee, and then $2.99 per character including your first character, which only adds on to the horrible leveling system, and almost seems like they're wanting you to purchase at least two characters to play each "rank" efficiently since the reassign button is utterly useless.

Being able to use any abilities that you learn from any class is nifty, but honestly, what part of this game doesn't suck?

[Abriael]

hold off the lies mate :D I understand this is N4G, but spreading this kind of misinformation won't make you any different from Sankaku Complex.

You don't need even neaer to a i7 to play optimally. I don't have an i7 (actually i have a quad core AMD) , and with my under-900-dollars rig I play it with no issue at 45-60 fps with zero crashes since launch. And that's at top detail, 1080p
Gamers with lesser PC can easily play it at 720p and get great performance.

The partial reassign button is absolutely no issue. Guild marks allow you to reassign your stats further and balanced stats are the way to go anyway. I'm playing Gladiator (tank), Thaumaturge (magic), Pugilist (avoidance tank and dd) and a bunch of crafting classes with absolutely no stat issue.
Your telling that you can't play each class (fun that you continue to call them "ranks". Did you even play the game?)"efficently" with the reassign system we have now is, I'm sorry, a clear cut misrepresentation.

The class and leveling system is probably one of the best if not the best in the market.

The number of crafting classes are absolutely justified considering that the game's economy is based completely on crafters, and crafting is an extremely well flashed out and fun part of the game. Again probably one of the best crafting systems in any MMORPG, on par with EQ2's.

The monthly fee is also no issue, because there's zero reason to want two characters in the game. You can easily play EVERYTHING on the same char. The vast majority of players will have one, and this means that they'll pay LESS than the average 15 dollar costing MMORPG.

Most servers (aside from one) have been very stable from day one, with a much better uptime than any other MMORPG at launch to my memory.

There are 6 areas, but they are absolutely huge, and there are several dungeons scattered around them. Maybe you didn't explore enough (if you played at all)?.

And there are many more than 4 missions total. Maybe you just didn't get there yet, or simply didn't explore enough to find them, but you're completely off-base here.

Aside from the lack of AH (which is already slated to be partly adressed with the categorization of market wards), I would say that there's absolutely any part of the game that "sucks".
It's a very solid core upon which they'll build for years to come.

You're the perfect example why people shouldn't review MMORPGs before a few weeks from launch. You filled your post with hearsay and wrong info, probably due to limited or no gameplay under your belt.

[vx]

the game SUCKS big time your opinions are lies and not gona change how epic fail this game is atm

[Arnon]

*Looks at the back of the box*

Recommended System Specifications

OS - Windows 7 32bit/64bit
Processor - Intel Core i7 (2.66GHz) or faster
Memory - 4GB or more
Storage - Install: 15GB or more, Download: 6GB or more
Video - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 with 768MB VRAM or equivalent
Sound - DirectSound compatible sound card (DirectX 9.0c or higher)
Internet - Broadband Internet connection
Resolution - 1280x720 or higher; 32bit
DirectX - DirectX 9.0c
Controls - Mouse, Keyboard, Gamepad

The game is even more poorly optimized than I imagined.

"The partial reassign button is absolutely no issue. Guild marks allow you to reassign your stats further and balanced stats are the way to go anyway."

Then why have separate classes, just like I pointed out?

"(fun that you continue to call them "ranks". Did you even play the game?)"efficently" with the reassign system we have now is, I'm sorry, a clear cut misrepresentation."

http://i162.photobucket.com...

Marauder Rank: 13. Nope, I'm pretty sure it's called "Rank".

"The number of crafting classes are absolutely justified considering that the game's economy is based completely on crafters, and crafting is an extremely well flashed out and fun part of the game."

Final Fantasy XI was based on the same concept. The only difference, is that people can now publicly see your crafting rank. Once again, pointless.

"The monthly fee is also no issue, because there's zero reason to want two characters in the game. You can easily play EVERYTHING on the same char. The vast majority of players will have one, and this means that they'll pay LESS than the average 15 dollar costing MMORPG."

How can you play every class, if your physical rank doesn't change? Are you saying that I'm now screwed because I didn't equally balance out my points? I guess this also applies to 90% of the population? What an asinine remark.

"And there are many more than 4 missions total. Maybe you just didn't get there yet, or simply didn't explore enough to find them, but you're completely off-base here."

http://www.eorzeapedia.com/...

Sorry, there's 5. Please, for the both of us, and probably everyone reading this, quit acting like an idiot, all the while accusing people of lying with terrible grammar involved. The first two paragraphs of your comment were incorrect. And... they were stupidly incorrect.

[Dno]

Your wrong in everyway... get a good pc and you will have no problems
Abriael is right in everyway game is awesome best MMO out and will be for a very long time.

I can't understand how your phy rank has anything to do with anything and LMAO at only 4 quests LMAO!!! every 36 hours you can do a total of 16 (local and state) before you can not do anymore. So how can there only be 4 LMAO!!! man you are bad at getting info because you never played it. N4G PLEASE do not listen to this kid.

There are problems us FF14 heads have to say but once those are fixed best MMO ever imo.

Edit: let me explain the rank because this kid knows nuthin. First off you can reasign points anytime. You get 20% of your total points back every 20 mins. So you can infact play every single job but you will have to wait if you want to switch all your points. So if im rank 50 and i want to start a mage even tho i put all my points in melee i can have 20% of all my stats right then and there and basicly im a lvl 15 mage that is rank one because of all the points i got on the first job. So lvling lower lvl jobs is EASIER and fast because of this system. Its pure win!!!

[Arnon]

"First off you can reasign points anytime. You get 20% of your total points back every 20 mins. So you can infact play every single job but you will have to wait if you want to switch all your points."

And how is this a good thing, to wait to be able to use your job properly, which is what I've been asking?

"I can't understand how your phy rank has anything to do with anything"

You don't think that if I level to a MRD style of gameplay, where my STR, DEX, VIT, and PIE are vastly higher than my WIS and MND, I wont suffer playing on my Conjurer?

"So how can there only be 4 LMAO!!!"

http://www.eorzeapedia.com/...

There's a difference between plot missions and levequests. Dear god you two must be the same person or something. Your comments are horribly painful to read and they're just... stupid. Now quit acting butthurt that nobody is enjoying your game.

[Dno]

"And how is this a good thing, to wait to be able to use your job properly, which is what I've been asking?"

In many other games you can not even switch job jobs (wow). So yes its a great thing. Also you have whats called GEAR which will give you awesome stats... i can play a Con with str and still be very good. play the game and you will find out. Also like i said as soon as you switch you can use 20% of your points. Which means i have LOTS of points to give to maagic.

"You don't think that if I level to a MRD style of gameplay, where my STR, DEX, VIT, and PIE are vastly higher than my WIS and MND, I wont suffer playing on my Conjurer?"

Look above.. basicly instead of doing dmg for 1k i do 700 to the mob into i get all my stats..... Goal of the game is to GROUP if you do not have job classes then why would i need to group? if i can change to a healer any time then a tank it would kill the whole "group" thing.

" http://www.eorzeapedia.com/...

There's a difference between plot missions and levequests. Dear god you two must be the same person or something. Your comments are horribly painful to read and they're just... stupid. Now quit acting butthurt that nobody is enjoying your game."

This is so stupid that i dont want to reply but i will in capps. YOU LEFT OUT 90% OF THE QUEST IN THE OF THE GAME TO PROVE YOUR POINT!!!!! There are plot missions and guild leves smart one. all are QUESTS. Only one butthurt here is you because your stupid ass PC can not run the game.

again N4G DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM!!!

FYI there are over 50 QUESTS in guild leves alone. Man I hate people who do not play a game and still reply.

FYI number 2: plot missions are added over time i mean ff11 JUST got some more plot mission last week!! THAT GAME IS 8 YEARS OLD!!!!

[Eiffel]

Let me just swoop down from heaven and drop a bombshell on ya.

Arnon has played it, I'm a witness. The game is shit. Just accept it.

[Arnon]

Nothing about your comment even makes sense.

"In many other games you can not even switch job jobs (wow). So yes its a great thing. Also you have whats called GEAR which will give you awesome stats."

What is this? What does WoW have to do with FFXIV? We're talking about Square-Enix here. The guys who went from FFXI to FFXIV, not WoW. FFXI let you switch jobs at any time without having to worry about waiting to use your job properly.

This once again brings to question "how is this a good thing, to wait to be able to use your job properly?" Why is it that I could play every job in FFXI perfectly on hume, without having to worry about imbalances? Why is it that FFXIV cannot do the same thing and work the same way? Why am I limited on what I can play correctly, even though Square-Enix urges me to play said jobs? This is a step backwards, and honestly doesn't really serve a purpose. There's no reason why we cant just reassign all of our points at once if they're going to give them all to us in the first place, is there?

"This is so stupid that i dont want to reply but i will in capps. YOU LEFT OUT 90% OF THE QUEST IN THE OF THE GAME TO PROVE YOUR POINT!!!!! There are plot missions and guild leves smart one. all are QUESTS. Only one butthurt here is you because your stupid ass PC can not run the game."

Not really sure what to say to this, considering it not only has nothing to do with anything we've talked about, but it's hardly readable in the first place. I guess my PC just cant run this poorly optimized game, even though it runs Crysis on Max, right?

http://i162.photobucket.com...

How will I ever cope with not being able to run FFXIV?...

http://i162.photobucket.com...
(That's a screenshot from the closed beta, by the way)

"again N4G DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM!!!"

N4G's played the game. A lot of them have already made up their mind, and it's pretty obvious that the majority of us haven't found the game to be that good, considering I've only seen 3 people defend it.

"FYI there are over 50 QUESTS in guild leves alone. Man I hate people who do not play a game and still reply.

FYI number 2: plot missions are added over time i mean ff11 JUST got some more plot mission last week!! THAT GAME IS 8 YEARS OLD!!!!"

Once again, what does this have to do with... anything? Also, yes. You most certainly are the butthurt one here. "He's never played it!!!" Really? Lolz. I was in the closed and open beta, and have purchased the limited edition of the game. I'm not sure how much more "experience" I need with the game to know it's not good.

[Dno]

"What is this? What does WoW have to do with FFXIV? We're talking about Square-Enix here. The guys who went from FFXI to FFXIV, not WoW. FFXI let you switch jobs at any time without having to worry about waiting to use your job properly."

FF11 DOES NOT let u switch anytime. you have to go to your mog house and its HARDLY close to anything or place where you are or would be. (i played and still play ff11 for 5 years) Plus you have to change your gear etc. This game you can change on the fly and keep the same gear on its very seemless.

"This once again brings to question "how is this a good thing, to wait to be able to use your job properly?" Why is it that I could play every job in FFXI perfectly on hume, without having to worry about imbalances? Why is it that FFXIV cannot do the same thing and work the same way? Why am I limited on what I can play correctly, even though Square-Enix urges me to play said jobs? This is a step backwards, and honestly doesn't really serve a purpose. There's no reason why we cant just reassign all of our points at once if they're going to give them all to us in the first place, is there?"

Once again you must understand games are different and FOR THE 1 MILLIONTH TIME IF YOU SWITCH YOUR JOB YOU CAN REASSIGN POINTS!!!!!

"Not really sure what to say to this, considering it not only has nothing to do with anything we've talked about, but it's hardly readable in the first place. I guess my PC just cant run this poorly optimized game, even though it runs Crysis on Max, right?"

since you dont understand let me make it clear. You said there are only 4 mission and you are wrong.. i think everyone esle got it. You tried to down play all the mission/quests in the game by not counting guildleves. Simple as that you are wrong

"Once again, what does this have to do with... anything? Also, yes. You most certainly are the butthurt one here. "He's never played it!!!" Really? Lolz. I was in the closed and open beta, and have purchased the limited edition of the game. I'm not sure how much more "experience" I need with the game to know it's not good."

I don't care about any of this because you are still giving out wrong imformation. 4 quests LMAO.

This will be the last text i write since you have no more bubbles and im only gonna say if you dont like the game that fine but others do so do not give out wrong info. If you dont like the fact that you can change jobs and how they made it thats you but everyone whos played ff11 loves it because its faster and easier.

"Eiffel + 19h ago @Dno
Let me just swoop down from heaven and drop a bombshell on ya.
Arnon has played it, I'm a witness. The game is shit. Just accept it."

How can he have played the game and give out false facts? Man N4G is getting crazy lately. i dunno how i have disagrees for stating whats REALLY in the game being as i was in closed open and CE game knowing more then most about it. i bet you his character has not even started playing yet lol. im already phy rank 23 MRD 17 BSM 14 ARM 9, etc etc.... i have actually PLAYED the game and love it. I dont have to accept anything as just like with ff11 the next 5 years will be awesome for me!^^

[Fadetoblack69]

Couldn't agree more. This game is excellent and will easily last me for years based on what I've already seen. I've had no issues with running it and love both the leveling and crafting systems. I think the reason most people are hating on it is because it isn't a "give you everything as soon as you start" game that has become all too typical lately. This game is meant to be played.

As to them asking about holding off on the reviews, I am assuming it is because a lot of the content isn't active yet which is exactly how FFXI was when it launched. They let the game go for about a month because they activated the Auction House and other systems. I am expecting a large content patch before the end of the month if they follow suit.

Been in since C/E launch, having a blast with everything, thats all that matters to me. I'll take 'hand on experience' over 'word of mouth' anyday.

[Razgriz]

del

[Razgriz]

sankakucomplex is biased and unreliable.

[Faelan]

What was the article about again? All I remember seeing on that site was a lot of delicious Japanese boobs and what not... oh my.

[HelghastKid]

most MMOs usually bomb at launch, so im not really worried. Im not getting this till it's released for PS3 anyway so it should be good by then

[theafroman]

i really should of heed the NSFW

[theroadtoruin]

Kingdom Hearts is their only franchise thats worth playing anymore, KHBBS for PSP was really good...

wish i could say the same for Final Fantasy.

[Beahmscream]

Square Enix is going downhill fast... Time for them to step it up

[MrBubble]

That was a interesting site

To bad Square Enix blew it

[AEtherbane]

Why do people look to this site for gaming news? O.o

[Gamer_Z]

you know why SquareEnix is sucking soo bad this gen? its because they are not giving the fans what they want like a kingdom hearts on the console or what about a remake of FF7!!! they have such a good back catalog of games but yet they cant seem to make a good game this gen. damn it! Squeenix

[ChickeyCantor]

Now i don't care for this game, but in respect to an MMO you can't really jump to conclusions this quick. MMO's need time and like RPG's they get better once you are further down the road.
I mean new moves/weapons/spells etc etc. They aren't given from point zero.

[jneul]

oh dear SE that is lame, really you are just trying to buy yourself time here, it's not going to work that way you know!!

[Lazy_Gamer]

Just announce KH3 already! Oh you won't? Ok guys, review it!

[BioDio]

Not talking about WoW (lesser graphics but cool gameplay), FF14 has great graphics and great music, overall, a great prensentation, but the gameplay seems old. See it this way, GW2 has great graphics (maybe not as good as FF14) nice music and (at least it looks like) a fun gameplay and inovative mechanics. FF14 has almost nothing new, there is even some mechanics that makes me remember of MH (started playing it again because FF14 made me remember it =p).
Anyway, FF14 will have a slow and forgettable death =x maybe it's even cancelled for the PS3... (And I really was hyped for it some months ago...)

[maxcer]

agreed, i was horribly let down with the beta. and being a longtime ffxi player i was so hyped to see my beta email. got in, started to play and quickly found a slow/clunky UI that is even worse than ffxi's. i just hope 6months down the line most of the problems get fixed so i can hop back in

[BioDio]

They probably released it now to start doing some money to start patching it, but, if japan is not in the boat, it's going to be FF14 - The Dark Ages =x
Let's see how this novel is going to end, I think this is just the very tip of the iceberg =p

[maxcer]

i think the only reason why they released the game was to beat Cata to market.

[Eamon]

That website is a feminist's nightmare.

[somedude5892]

I like final fantasy XIV. But I still kinda feel like I'm playing the beta. SE has a lot of work to do on this game yet. I'm going to give it a few months. If stuff is not fixed by then I will most likely;y quit.