Mass Effect PS3 enjoys 'visual changes'

Bioware has revealed that Mass Effect 2 is likely to see some "visual changes" on PS3 - and will "play differently" to the 360 version of the game.

[Meisadragon]

its unreal engine 3 right.

[plenty a tool]

it's coming 1 year later. bioware are a great dev, and i expect them to equal or surpass the 360 version easily

[bjornbear]

Dragon Age was equal if not better on PS3! so Bioware know they PS3 stuff =D

plays different?! what could that mean!? =O more RPG options? Maybe they heard all the feedback people were saying of it having too much emphasis on shooting and not enough on RPG and thus will add more?!?!

either way, it will be a great dea =)

I rather wait if it ends up being superior =D

[-Alpha]

The PS3 version of Dragon Age runs really poorly, the framerate is horrible. Yet it managed to outscore the 360 version on some sites, mainly because the 360 has the worse textures/graphics (but more sustainable framerate, while the PS3's graphics were superior to that of the 360 version). Of course the PC version outperforms both.

I like Bioware. I wonder how much better ME2 will be on PS3. I'm still wanting to get it on the 360 so that way I can have the whole collection, both ME1 and ME2 on 360. But I may end up skipping ME1 if ME2 PS3 version explains it properly.

[xboxlj]

And just how was Dragon Age better on the PS3? I agree that the PC version was much better than console versions, but how was the PS3 version better than 360?

[dragonelite]

It's what you think is more important the fact you can claim you have better textures or the fact you have a higher frame rate.

Still have a feeling EA forced them to do it and just so they can earn some back. To be honest EA is really starting to milk their big studio if you ask me DICE working on multiple games and Bio ware doing the mmo DA 2 and Me 2&3.

If EA pushes dice so far to do all those side project,and the result is that battlefield 3 will suck may god have mercy for them because i won't.

About the changes i would say probably some of the shaders that won't run on ps 3 or other 360 gpu effects. Some has to give in and they will probably put something back that is just as awesome.

[moparful99]

I hate it when developers give these vague answers.. All this accomplishes is to pour fuel on the flame wars... But given biowares competency in this industry and the special time and attention that the ps3 version is gaining I don't see how bioware could screw this up... I pray they don't seeing as ME2 is that 1 game on the 360 that I'm truly jealous of..

[nycredude]

dragonelite

"may god have mercy for them because i won't."

Lighten up man it's just video games.

[tacosRcool]

Well at least we all hope Bioware will do a good job

[Sarcasm]

Alpha-Male, the reason why the frame rate on the PS3 version of DA seemed "poor" is because it has V-Sync enabled. It also has more Anisotropic filtering which made all the textures look more clearer.

I think ME2 for the PS3 is in good hands.

[paintsville]

I'm not sure what the visual changes line actually means? Historically the UE3 games have not performed well on ps3. However, this is a very talented group of people working on this game. I am confient that they'll be able to get the sony fan base a good rendition of this great game.

[outrageous]

I don't think Mass Effect will look anywhere near as good as the 360 version. I've had this discussion before, Mass Effect runs on a highly developed 360 engine and I suspect the PS3 version will run 540-640p with alot of strange lighting and nowhere near as detailed. Nobody needs to freak out, but Bioware and EA are just giving everyone the heads up so when it releases in a couple of months people don't have high expectations and are disappointed.

Of course maybe they are saying it will look different in a good way like 60fps and 1080p...and...um....well, you know what I mean. If this doesn't look pixel perfect, EA is gonna have a problem explaining it. Same goes for Valve and Portal 2...better be perfect.

[-Alpha]

@Sarcasm

It still ran noticeably poor. I don't understand the disagrees, I stated a fact about the differences between the versions.

[paintsville]

Unfortunately ANY comment that puts ps3 at a disadvantage, be it true or not...and your statement about dragon age was right on the money, i still have it for ps3....will pile up the disagrees(even if they haven't played it themselves).

[SaberEdge]

Well, he was put on the spot by the question the PS3 mag asked him. He said that it would probably have some visual changes and play a little differently, if only because you are using a different controller, but it didn't seem like he was referring to anything specific, more like he was trying to give them some kind of answer that would satisfy them.

If they were talking about visual upgrades they would have simply said "visual upgrades" or "visual improvements".

[ExplosionSauce]

You mean advantage?...
I think the reason why they disagreed is because he said the PS3 version, despite having poor frame rate, had better textures/graphics and scored higher than 360 in some sites.
That was the kicker.

Unfortunately when you put ANY console at an advantage of disadvantage, you will get disagrees.
_________

I'm sure Bioware will do just fine with it. Not sure if I'll play the game again, but we'll see what happens.

[MRMagoo123]

I have DAO on my ps3 and i cant see these bad frame rates its supposed to have when are they seen because i have missed them completely and ive have completed it with every class in the game once each? I have noticed the large difference in graphical quality tho compared to the 360 version maybe thats why it scored better because real and made up are different things.

[Aloren]

That's pretty easy to see when you compare both versions. I have both and made the test, I ran it on both consoles and just switched the HDMI channel, and while the ps3 version looked slightly better and had more vivid colors, it still had more framerate issues than its counterpart.

Now of course, both version are perfectly playable, so that's not so surprising that it didn't bother you, but in a side by side comparison, the differences are pretty obvious.

I wonder how ME2 will turn out on ps3... I'll probably get it anyway.

[skrug]

@Alpha-Male22

it's your wording

"The PS3 version of Dragon Age runs really poorly, the framerate is horrible."

makes it sounds like it's so horrible it's almost to the point of unplayable.

[SeanRL]

@Alpha, you're not allowed to say anything remotely negative about the ps3 on this site. :\

[ChineseDemocracy]

Let's hope these changes are for the better.

Bioware has a great track record, so have some faith.

[specialguest]

This is my theory. They've stated that there will be visual differences between the PS3 and 360 version. If the PS3 version was to be better graphically than the 360 version, they would have capitalized on that fact in order to gain sales, and compensate for the one year delay. However, they didn't state that. So what does this mean? Guess we'll just have to wait and find out.

[NarooN]

"highly-developed 360 engine"? WTF is that? Mass Effect 2 ran on the friggin' Unreal Engine 3. UT3 on PS3 looked better than Gears of War 1 on the 360 (confirmed by Cliffy B. himself) and it ran on the same engine, ran at a locked 30fps @ 720p. If anything ME2 might look better but it's yet to be seen, since this is Bioware making it and not Epic Games.

[morganfell]

Are some people in this thread just absolutely oblivious to the changes in the U3 engine over the past several years? Apparently. This isn't the same U3 engine from 2007.

[SonyPS360]

Just like every multi plat game.

Oh shit wait a second.

[Christopher]

It is to bee seen if we will 'enjoy' these visual changes. The responses don't necessarily make it look like a good thing. At least we know it will have an intro for those who haven't payed ME1. Hopefully it's something along the lines of a choose your path story so you can design a character that will be more than just the default character option going into the second game.

[AndrewRyan]

All I know is that I HAVE ALREADY enjoyed the best visuals a year before you will. Thank you PC.

[Christopher]

Actually, AndrewRyan, I enjoyed them on my PC as well...

Don't jump to conclusions.

[AndrewRyan]

I am almost positive if you have already played this game once, you would not get it again on another system, it would be a waste of money! Especially if you are downgrading from PC to PS3.

[Christopher]

I own ME on 360 and PC...

I see no issue supporting a game on multiple platforms if I plan on playing it multiple times. I've played both games more than five times through.

If I have the option to support the game coming to the PS3, I see no reason to not do so and play it again. Graphically speaking, it's more than acceptable on both platforms.

[specialguest]

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[mirroredderorrim]

Maybe your brain is having screen tearing? Cause Bioware are topnotch. I enjoy their PC love way more so than console love. So enjoy bashing the PS3 version when 360 is barebones PC at best.

[Persistantthug]

I've noticed alot of PC developers seem to have trouble or "growing pains" with not only the PS3, but with consoles in general. Bioware didn't make Dragon Age: Origins for the consoles, Edge of Reality did ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... ).

On the plus side, Bioware does have EA to help if need be.

But yeah....I think it's reasonable to expect some kind of growing pains for the PS3's version considering Bioware has never really done a PS3 game before.
But once that hurdle is overcome, their future games should be that much better...

Who knows, maybe they'll get comfortable enough to eventually bring their Star Wars MMORPG to the PS3.
*shrug*

[khushand]

You forget about dragon age on ps3 which was netter than the 360 version
not as good as the PC version though.

[Persistantthug]

Bioware didn't make either of the console versions of Dragon Age: Origins......EDGE OF REALITY did.

What I've noticed, is that many PC developers, unless they can get do it or get it done easily, they tend to avoid console development....DOUBLY so for the PS3. Call the reasons lazy, financial, or staff and resources...this is generally what I notice....they try and stay in their comfort zone, "go with what they know", so to speak.

But in this case, EA OWNS Bioware and won't allow them to continue avoiding consoles or the PS3 because consoles is what brings EA its most money.

So basically, I think we should all consider ME2 as a sort of "training grounds" for Bioware. And just as in real life, TRAINING is how ones mistakes are made and ironed out.

The good news is, is when training is over, said trainee is typically better than before.

[corneliuscrust]

I guess it WAS netter..

[HeavenlySnipes]

Do you guys actally notice the framerate and all hat crap when playing these games? I know FFXIII on ps3 looks better than the 360 version (I have it for ps3 btw, its sucks ass lol) but when I looked at a comparison ideo I couldn't tell th sifference. People like overexaggeating on the site. I've yet o play a multiplatform game where I could notice the difference between the 2 console versions. (Well maybe dring screenshots but not during gameplay)

[peowpeow]

It probably isn't the average framerate that bugs people, but the occasional slow-downs that are very noticeable if fps hits the teens.

[CobraKai]

I'm hoping the visual change is Miranda's face!!

[jony_dols]

EAs Medal of Honor crew, have used the PS3 as their lead platform. Both MOH Single player and ME2 use Unreal 3.

Im sure EA will lend the support of the MOH teams talents if ME2 has any dev problems.

[Elven6]

bjorn: BioWare didn't do the console ports of Dragon Age, it was done by a company called Edge of Reality.

[YoshiMeetsU]

I'm glad it was finally mentioned. The broken record of "Bioware did excellent on DAO" was starting to get annoying when they don't even know what they are talking about.

And nowhere does this article says "PS3 enjoys". Spin after spin on this site.

[Hallmark Moment]

Sounds like the devs are saying the PS3 version is going to be inferior and computerandvideogames.com spun what was said in his article. Even the way computerandvideogames.com asked the questions suggested fanboyism.

[bustamove]

It sounds like you need to reread the interview.

[avengers1978]

They probably mean the contols them selves play different. Of course it can look better if they take the time to actually make it better instead of just a stright port.

[SkylineR]

Bioshock on PS3 showed that a late port to it doesn't necessarily mean a better end product. Ah well, you can always just go play it now on a high-end PC and it'll surpass both 360 and PS3 versions. And you don't need to wait until next year.

[gman_moose]

We couldn't get it to look or play as good as the 360 version.

Why didn't he just come out and say it? It's not like people aren't going to notice, or expect it, considering almost every multiplat lately has looked and performed better on 360. I'm gettin f***ing sick of it.

[avengers1978]

Why would hte PS3 "enjoy" visual changes if it didn't look as good as the 360 version. And really most multiplat games look and play identical on either console.

[rebirthofcaos]

If by "play differently" it plays like a RPG instead of a shooter then ill purchase it.

[Montoya]

STFU Mass Effect 2 is a great GAME. If you only own a PS3 you should be happy to have the chance to play it. Whether you think it`s an RPG or a Shooter or both. I already own it for the 360 and I`ll be buying it for the PS3 aswell. Move support would/will be awesome, the wheel system and targeting system would work perfectly w/ the Move.

[BulletProofVess]

calm down montoya.
people can have their own opinion.

unless its Omega4 he doesn't deserve one

[Def Warrant]

lol ME2 is a shooter with limited RPG elements. Only sheep will think otherwise.

[ico92]

he wasn't actually calling Mass Effect 2 a bad game, but he does have a point , compared to most WRPG/JRPG Mass Effect 2 has a heavy emphasis on action or to be more specific shooting

[Why o why]

lol, id add a few...but he's n4gs equivalent to greengerg

[Montoya]

Ok. I apologize for the STFU (that was rude) I got kinda excited again, I apologize. Oh my GOD I`m a Mass Effect Fanboy... o_o ..LOL...

But, anyway.....

Mass Effect is a GREAT GAME. Period. RPG or Shooter.

@def warrant

You have no idea who I am, what I`m into, what I believe and how I think. Only blind 15 year old who just watched Zeitgeist as their first source of information and think they have it all figured out, call people sheep. Calling people sheep is so typical it in itself sheepish.

[StanLee]

I've always said the same thing, Mass Effect is a mediocre shooter disguised as an even more mediocre RPG. Who knew that combination would make for a great game.

[ThanatosDMC]

ME2 lost a lot of the RPG elements of ME1. Yes, they dumbed it down to a shooter. Have you played both games, Montoya?

But yes, ME2 is a great game. I choose it for GOTY instead of GOW3. GOW3 is a poor man's DMC.

[Blacktric]

Whoever's thinking that an RPG game is defined by letting players to add points to their characters' stats and letting them fight with D20 rules are completely wrong. Mass Effect 2 is an RPG game because it lets players to decide how the game will progress and end. If it was a shooter with light RPG elements, then there wouldn't be like 3 different endings along with the possibility of losing your crew mates. Wake up, this is 2010 not 1995.

[raztad]

Hey Tanatos, WTF has GoW3 to be with ME2? your comment was totally unnecessary.

BTW DMC4 is a poor's man DMC, Bayonetta is a poor's man DMC. GoW never pretended to copy DMC.

[MRMagoo123]

IMO i thought all the DMC games where shit but i have loved all the GOW games. ME2 is indeed a shooter with stats thats all it is if i want an RPG fix i wouldnt be looking there.

[ThanatosDMC]

I've always hated GOW series after it came out and was compared to DMC1. Yeeah, personal hate. Nvm... dont mind me.

But ME2 has more appeal than GOW3.... ::runs away::

[Foliage]

GOW had elements ME can never matched. The level of visuals is something the 360 has never come close to matching. GOW had exceptionally polished gameplay, while ME suffers greatly in that category. In fact, the only thing ME might have over GOW is character development, but GOW was never supposed to be good in that area.

You can disagree all you want, but everyone knows it is true.

[Beahmscream]

100% agree my good man.

[Figboy]

I have Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2.

Mass Effect 1 = RPG in the same vein as Knights of the Old Republic (one of Bioware's BEST games)

Mass Effect 2 = 3rd person shooter in the same vein as Gears of War.

I enjoyed both Mass Effects, but ME2 REALLY disappointed me and my wife, who were annoyed that Bioware pulled a bait and switch with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2.

The RPG elements are extremely scaled back to the point of being non-existent.

The story in ME2 isn't nearly as good as the story in ME1, and in truth, feels more like a filler story to set up what will no doubt be a FANTASTIC story in ME3. Personally, I think Mass Effect should have been a 2 game franchise as far as Shepherd's story is concerned, then other games in the series could branch off to new characters and plotlines.

I'm eagerly awaiting ME3, but interestingly enough, I'll probably buy it for my PS3, because I prefer the controller. Who knows, I may just end the series on my 360, since I like to keep my series in a set on one platform (like the Metal Gear and GTA series; I buy on PlayStation: Splinter Cell, etc, I buy on Xbox).

[SaberEdge]

What you wrote makes no sense to me. There is not that much difference between the way ME1 and ME2 play. There are a few minor changes here and there, but they both essentially feel like the same kind of experience.

[PirosThe4th]

@SaberEdge
You probably never even played the first one...
It is clearly downgrade... no extra power ups or armors equipping with many guys... no inventory system...
Barely leveling up system to make up... which is jsut so bland... The first one was perfect... but the shooting was crap... so why not mix the elements of the 2 in order to make 3 perfect!

[Figboy]

criticisms towards a universally praised game, suddenly you are deemed a hater.

for me, PERSONALLY, Mass Effect 1 is better than Mass Effect 2. i did like that Mass Effect 2 improved combat over ME1, but not at the cost of the RPG elements. i don't see why they had to strip down the RPG elements for part 2.

the story in ME2, in my opinion, IS weaker than the story in ME1. characters behaved VERY out of character (Kaiden and Liara stand out the most), and the plot just wasn't as engaging as the plot of the first.

here's a recap:

Mass Effect 1 Plot: Rogue Spectre Agent Saren is after an incredibly powerful and dangerous artifact long thought to not exist from a race of "mythical" beings called the Protheans. Our hero, Commander Shepherd, is on a quest to bring Saren down and recover the artifact, and discover the truth behind the existence of the Protheans and their creation, the Geth.

Mass Effect 2: After being recruited by the mysterious Cerberus corporation, Commander Shepherd is on a quest to locate the source behind a massive rash of human colony disappearances. I won't go too deeply into the plot of ME2 since it's only 8 months old, and many folks haven't played it, but that's the overall gist of it.

I'm sorry, but the plot of ME2 is just very small scale, compared to the plot of ME1. it's not a horrible plot by any stretch of the imagination, but it really does lack the scale and impact of the plot of ME2.

The best part of ME2 is the characters. The party members you recruit in ME2 are absolutely fantastic, but the real meat of the ME2 experience IS recruiting your party members and completing their personal quests to gain their loyalty. That part is great. the CORE story of ME2 is weak compared to the first.

if I could combine the plot and RPG elements of ME1, with the characters and combat of ME2, that'd be AWESOME.

as a long time fan of Bioware (since Balder's Gate and Neverwinter Nights), i know what they are capable of as an RPG developer, and Mass Effect just isn't the top of their game.

people's opinion of Role playing differ, and while I agree that an RPG is taking on a role of a character and playing through the story, Bioware's M.O. has ALWAYS been giving the player a surprising amount of control over how they evolve and upgrade their character. some of us long time RPG fans LOVE to upgrade stats, and this current generation of RPGs have been lacking severely (Demon's Souls is one of the few that really let you craft your character. Mass Effect 1 also let you really choose a path and skillset for your character, unlike ME2).

[omi25p]

i thought a Role playing game involved being the character and making your own choices throught the game, rather than upgrading your character, because you know your playing the role of the character....

[KratosGirI]

I wanna see I wanna see!

[Why o why]

you coulda just used stickers to deface ur move controller :(

hmmm

Awesome Move IS definitely Awesome definitely

[KratosGirI]

It was easy to remove. All I needed was a damp cloth.

Besides, Awesome Move is Awesome :D

[jack_burt0n]

yes move is awesomes you should have lit it up after drawing on it :)

[FAGOL]

hmmmm as long as there ar'nt major performance and graphical issues then i'm ok with it.

[Ravage27]

Superior MLAA tech is pretty much confirmed at this point imo. I just hope that there will be lots of content added in.

[raztad]

Why do you think MLAA is confirmed? I havent heard any word about something that specific.

[FAGOL]

I have'nt heard anything about that. As much as I want that to be true I don't think lying about it is a good idea.

[Ravage27]

i'm just predicting that MLAA will be used because according to DigitalFoundry's latest article on the LBP2 engine, it's easy as hell to implement and is already provided to all devs. When Bioware talks about the different strengths of systems, i assume this must be one the features they meant.

"MLAA is now a part of the Edge tools available to all PS3 developers and it's effectively a drop-in component that can be added in an afternoon of coding - expect to see it in many more titles, not just those from Sony."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[units]

When asked what PS3 brought to Mass Effect that 360 couldn't, Zeschuck said:

"The important thing is that, fundamentally, [PS3] has a very different architecture. Visually, there are probably some changes - I mean, there are differences in the way the memory is allocated, and the graphical processor is all different.

"We're not going to get pulled into the argument over which is the more powerful; at the end of the day, they both are, and we can do whatever we want on them.

[facelike]

Good, I thought I was the only one who read this article.

[Beefstew4u]

lolz

[commodore64]

interesting that the title read:
"Mass Effect PS3 enjoys 'visual changes'"

Can you imagine if it read:
"Mass Effect PS3 suffers from 'visual changes'"

To be sure, the outcome of the visual changes, was not made clear from the article, yet the title presented as a positive!
In light of other recent inferior ps3 multiplats, is that a wise conclusion?
Reputable analysis of multiplat evidence seems to indicate otherwise.

[bartbart]

Good point commodore

[jony_dols]

I dunno EA are extremely experienced with the PS3, their devs know the hardware inside out.

Especially with all the source code already there, they have a year to optimize it to the PS hardware. Also the Unreal 3 engine has proven itself very competent on the PS3 regardless of the developers.

Bioware's Dragon Age was ported across to the PS3 and it was a quite successful first time effort. I'm quite optimistic that the PS3 version of ME2 will be equal if not better than the Xbox version.

[jneul]

@commodore it will be funny if they are upgraded, thus proving you wrong, anyway i can't wait to see what bioware do with it, dragon age on ps3 was a good port

[Motorola]

Ok commodore, imagine it does. But in reality, it doesnt! AMAZING RIGHT? JUST LOOK AT THE TITLE

[jony_dols]

What the hell, people disagreed with my comment. Why?

Because I said EA devs have 4 years experience working with the PS3 hardware?

Or that Unreal 3 runs stabilaly on the PS3?

Or that the Bioware devs have 12 months to port the finished ME2 code over?

Fucking idiot fanboys that disagree with anything.

[Naughty Dog]

So the visual thing could go either way.

[Convas]

Ahhh, another intelligent life-form. Besides the ones who will rush in here saying "Oh-EM-GEEEZZZ, ME2 graphical powerhouse on PS3 confirmed!".

+Bubbles

[fullmetal297]

Seems like people want to skip the article and get straight into the argument these days.

[jizzyjones]

So its gonna run worse then, least it will be on 1 disk :)

[Montoya]

First off ME2 runs well, better than ME1 especially when installed.

and secondly the PS3 has ran the most impressive software of any console this gen. Bioware is very talented and they will make it happen.

[SaberEdge]

ME2 runs better, as in it has no screen tearing and a better frame rate, but sadly it also looks worse than ME1 in the fact the texture resolutions are not quite as high and there is no anti-aliasing like the first one had.

All in all I still prefer the better performance of ME2 over ME1, but I think the actual graphics were somewhat better in the first game.

[SirRunic]

Gah. I want this game.

[redDevil87]

I wanna see this!

Hopefully they change the way you mine for minerals and resources.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I just want this game to come out for PS3, im super pumped for it. Have they set a date yet?

[redDevil87]

january they said

[SuperStrokey1123]

Thanks!

I gotta preorder this badboy!

[jack_burt0n]

Just having the best game on 360 on ps3 is enough on one bluray with all the DLC that is WIN WIN WIN.

[plenty a tool]

and enough to make you soil your underwear!

[Lykon]

mmmm soil in our underwear. soil, filth, unidentified matter

[JohnApocalypse]

I bet the PS3 version is going to have very, very long loading times

[BeAGamer]

sound the troll alarms

[DasBunker]

i bet uncharted will have long loading times on the 360.. oh wait that will never happen.. unlike other exclusives games on other certain consoles...

[JohnApocalypse]

You ever played ME2

[Roonie]

your still hurt that ME2 is now on ps3...

[MaximusPrime]

Wow. Thats the most dumbest comment I came across

[mrcash]

doubtful, installation will definitely help if it comes down to it. I'm sure bioware will do the game justice on the ps3, I hope it comes with all the dlc and some extras cuz i havent purchased any of it and it would be great to have it on one disc.

[Thoreau]

i have both systems (ps3, x360) i could simply send you a pm and let you know.

[BYE]

Are you trying to distract from the ridiculous 360 loading times in that game? lol

I played it on PC, which has second to no loading times at all. Completely different experience!

It will be faster on PS3 as well, it's still the most powerful console.

[Jazz4108]

Ps3 can produce better graphics but the problem is getting there you have to sacrafice frame rate and long loading times and my god the ps is running some ancient operating system with its mandatory installs and weekly firmware updates. The ps3 is a mess.

[Sylmaron]

Loading times are not an issue at all on PS3.

The biggest loading times are on Xbox360 because it RRODs all the time and you will have to wait till you get the next one.

[redDevil87]

lol

nice troll ownage

[DeathGazer]

Funny bubbles for you.

[Motorola]

god of war 3: NO LOADING TIMES. DDD:

[sdtarm]

BUBBLESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[vhero]

That made me laugh a little nice.. However we won't know the changes till it comes out.

[SonyPS360]

28 dumbasses agree with this troll

Just goes to show who follows these articles.

[redsquad]

Well, the PS3 has had a hardrive as standard for years, so why not use it?

[n4gno]

Some ps3 fanboyz are trolling with...facts, xbox fanboyz allways lie.

big difference.

"sacrifice framerate/loading time/ancient operating system/weekly firmware update"

wow, how desperated you are :) (pure bullcraps)

[Carlos_Irwin_Estevez]

@jazz
Worthless MS employee, i mean seriously cant the guys hire some quality assurance testers instead of worthless scum that troll the internet.

The 360 is an outdated dvd, no hdd, cheap pc components thrown into a cheap shell and sold to idiots who dont know any better.

[YoshiMeetsU]

"The biggest loading times are on Xbox360 because it RRODs all the time and you will have to wait till you get the next one. "

So basically you don't have an argument so you just decided to throw out the 12 year old troll eh.. hahah your ammo bag is running low.

"Some ps3 fanboyz are trolling with...facts, "

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHA beyond delusional.

"The 360 is an outdated dvd, no hdd, cheap pc components thrown into a cheap shell and sold to idiots who dont know any better. "

With some of the best games this generation and the #1 HD console. Yeah, it's okay you're mad. Sore loser.. whatever you want to call it.. Show me your rage!!!!

[bartbart]

Is that he got agrees. N4G is pathetic. No wonder the net views this place as a joke.

[P_Bomb]

@yoshi
Jazz had no argument either. Difference is Sylmaron made a funny at the troll's expense. Probably not the best time to be calling the PS3 OS outdated when the NEW 4GB Slim 360 just finished making headlines last week for not being able to play Halo Reach co-op, lol.

[maxcer]

this place is considered a joke because of all the childish comments that makeup the majority of posts

[vhero]

Wow YoshimeetsU way to label yourself a fanboy.

[moparful99]

Seriously you had to start this?? How do you still have 5 bubs? How can it be an ancient OS if the ps3 has frequent mandatory updates? Also firmware updates are not weekly, more like monthly and each one usually adds a feature or two and adresses issues if there are any... Just because sony takes the feedback of the community and acts on it more then once a year doesnt mean the system is broken.. Ohh and just like every other troll i've shut down using this excuse there are only 65 games out of the hundreds for the ps3 that have any form of madatory install.. Sorry but you and your comment fail...

[mrcash]

The only thing you have to sacrifice is time and money, it takes alot of time and cash to get the most out the ps3 but in the end its worth it for the fans.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

And what support do you have for that? XD

[TheGameFoxJTV]

The 360 has mandatory updates as well.

[capjacksparrow]

Trade in my 360 version for this one! I'm super psyched, this was my favorite 360 game ever. I mainly use my PS3 for all multiplatform games, so ME2 PS3 was a great idea! I still have my 360 for games like Fable III and stuff.

[plb]

Fable III will also be on PC

[TheGameFoxJTV]

And that's where I will be buying it. I hate paying for XBL so I'll snag Fable 3 on the platform where I can play the game I paid for the way I want to.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

Lol, why are you guys disagreeing? I WILL buy it on PC, that wasn't an opinion. You can't disagree with that.

[segamaniaco]

He added: "It think it will play a little differently. I mean, right from the start, you have a different controller, and that alone will change the way the game feels."

ill play mass effect with motion controller

yesssssssss, Sony won

[kevnb]

taken right out of context.

[likedamaster]

It does not say it will have Move controls or that it will look visually superior than its Xbox equivalent. It might most likely be inferior. Just saying... don't get your hopes up fanboys.

[Baka-akaB]

doesnt mean it going either way .
Bioware still managed an all around better version of dragon age on ps3 . I doubt they'll have much issues , without necessarily thinking it will be better

[bartbart]

Framerate says otherwise.

[SaberEdge]

Both versions of Dragon Age had their trade-offs. Besides, Mass Effect 2 is a much more graphically advanced game than Dragon Age, the latter of which was pretty average looking.

[MRMagoo123]

what frame rate problem are you talking about fartfart have u got a ps3 to prove these claims or are you just following the other 360 fantards because i have the game on at the moment and i cant see any frame rate problems even during fights with alot of enemies.

[MRMagoo123]

hey likedaloser you suck just saying.

[Fishy Fingers]

Finally got round to playing it on the PC (both consoles died, sad face) and it's really a fantastic game. Prefer it to the first easily.

[INehalemEXI]

I'm playing it on PC too been 360less since 09 after the 3rd died.Yeah, Way better then the first.

[devilhunterx]

No elevators? Purchase confirmed!

[Jack Klugman]

""We're not going to get pulled into the argument over which is the more powerful; at the end of the day, they both are, and we can do whatever we want on them. When you create games, you want as many people as possible to play them, so this is a great opportunity to reach a huge segment of the market. "

Sorry CVG Bioware isn't going to be baited by your typical fanboy BS.

[TheColbertinator]

Great game.My favorite on 360.Get it,its damn good

[cliffbo]

graphical downgrade incoming

[Baka-akaB]

"I was supposed to be angry at the oversimplifications and changes" from mass effect 1 to mass effect 2 who supposedly made it less of a rpg , but actually i whatever ME2 is , rpg or action game or watered down hybrid , i found the change was for the far better .

Now they could always bring back a few customisation options for the new interface in me3

[mrcash]

I enjoyed both equally, the way bioware deliveres the story is better than anything I have played so far, you really feel like you're part of it they are a great developer. and yes I've played HV and AW.

[MsmackyM]

I considered briefly buying a 360 to play the game, but didn't want to. Would have rather beefed up my pc; but don't like the idea of sitting at a desk to play a game. Now I finally get a chance to play ME2 in January. It would be nice if they added Move support for it.

[DeathGazer]

Hope they fix the textures a little.

Some are N64 quality on the 360.

[maniac76]

why mention about which is more powerful,but we know ps3 is,just takes the time to use the tech. cant wait for this,been holding of xbox even with the new slims rroding or wotever they call it now. all ps3 needs is left for dead lol

[OhReginald]

I think the real reason why they undergo these changes is because the 360 version tried to be like the PC version and ultimately failed. PS3 will be the BEST console version of Mass Effect 2. I own it for the PC and it is amazing. I don't think the ps3 will beat it, and I LOVE my ps3, i am just saying the truth.

I am just glad they aren't doing a sloppy cash-in port. They are actually working on this hard. I can tell.

[OhReginald]

8 disagrees? In what way was my comment wrong? jeez there must be some uptight 360 fanboys up in hur.

[jneul]

yay i can't wait to see the changes made, fingers crossed for visuals and move, that would really make bots cry, also not should not all you bots be playing on halo right now??

[Convas]

*Sigh* How old are you? You really believe that a bit of eye candy on ME2 for PS3 is going to make human beings actually shed tears?

N4G really is a joke.

[Gilliand]

It seems to have gotten even worse lately.

[house]

should have been here in 07 that was really bad

[Pistolero]

no, it's a lot worse now....go read the old articles...the comment section is tame compared to the way it is now.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Also, all DLC's on Blu ray =).

[Captain Tuttle]

Anyone who hasn't played the first MUST find a way to play it before they play ME 2 imo. You can blow through the main quest in 8-10 hours but the introduction to the universe is just fantastic.

[Tron_Rocks]

The many that own both consoles this is moot. I have it on the 360 as well as DLC and ME1 so the fact that the PS3 is extremely late to the party won't make me want to own this at at for my ps3

[Argento-Nox]

@Tron_Rocks

I think the more significant factor is that PS3 games will be able to play ME2 and probably ME3 as a day 1 purchase. Kind of reminds me of Bioshock 1 and 2 all over again. Great for gamers in general, which is a good thing IMO =).

[Garrus_Vakarian]

Garrus Vakarian approves.

[Shoko]

All you fanboys talking about it's gonna be a graphical DOWNgrade, you're still living back in 2007.

It's 2010. Devs know how to use the PS3 now.

Now get that M$ dildo out ya ass.

[Organization XII]

they still think halo reach has the best graphics ever...poor xbots..

[Pistolero]

halo reach does have some fantastic graphics...you can try to pretend they aren't good all you want but the truth is, they are better than most ps3 exclusives except for maybe uncharted 2 and killzone 2...and even that is debatable.

oh and multiplatform games still continue to generally do worse on the ps3 as the recent enslaved and dead rising 2 comparisons have shown.

[MonopolyRSV]

I have no patience for this guy and his vague nothingness.

[oguzsasi]

Why can a gamer buy Mass Effect 2 to to his/her console if he/her dont play the orijinal? I mean it has a great story right? Its like watching LOST' s finale before watching its pilots!

Do you care about Mass Effect 2 PS3 users? I care the first game more! Its a joke! They want us to play the second one and if we like then they want us to buy Xbox360' s! Its a suicide!

Dont buy this game!
Because you gonna love it and run to mall to buy a crapbox for the first game!

[lonix]

Half ass port

[oguzsasi]

MASS EFFECT 1 CONFIRMED?

Oo

[N4PS3Fanboys]

They damn better have made some changes to it, because everyone will have already played the game a year ago and it will be old news in 2011.

[Argento-Nox]

@N4PS3Fanboys

What will you be saying when ME3 releases day 1 on the 360 and PS3 home consoles, for their simultaneous enjoyment (Bioshock 2 for example)?

[The_Quiet_Man]

You all remind me of this idiot, (you know who yous are):
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Hardly anybody in here discussing the game, instead just a bunch of spoilt little bitches with they're "mine is better than yours" crap. Really take a good fucking look at yourselfs, gaming is just a luxury in life. Be thankful you're not homeless or dying from some illness.

I know it was always bad on this site with fanboys, reading the comment section in here is just complete eye pollution. Thanks for ruining it for anybody who was actually interested in discussing the game. Anyone who has a problem with my comment is an even bigger Mongo than I thought. Mods should just IP ban the lot of you idiots. You're parents should give your console to charity to make you learn a lesson.

I'm not even going to mention the game since it's pretty pointless in here.

[lonix]

grow down and stop being such an adult

this is a gaming website and games are for kids

[GusBricker]

...seems like a MASSive mistake.

I doubt the gameplay change with have the EFFECTiveness bioware thinks it will.

[Organization XII]

Damn its about time, thats all because of the CELL POWERR!!! Ps3 proved how light years is more advanced than the 360's lame 3 cores....even while using the UE3...

[PirateThom]

I know people love ME2, I do love it... I just don't love it as much as the first game to me...

But it's nothing "playing differently" will solve. No, what I miss is landing on random planets and just driving around on them, finding things and exploration.

ME2, while a great game, broken down, it's a long corridor shooter with a fancy menu screen and that, to me, isn't what ME1 was.

[Captain Tuttle]

ME 1 is a deeply flawed, amazing game. ME 1 is about the universe, ME 2 is about the characters. Everyone should play both imo.

[MajorgamerQc]

If you really want to see your game sell like hotcake on the PS3...just add the MOVE control adaptation....and 3D if not too much too ask

thank you

[stonedgamer]

this game sucked on PC and 360 and will suck on PS3, don't get your hopes up.

ME1 is a far better game. its more interesting, the story is better, its far less linear and more things to do. its basicly a striped down version of the original.

ME2 was just a bug enhancement from the first that feels more like Gears of War than ME, perfect example of a overhyped overrated game, just like GTA4.

[ATi_Elite]

So many people here are arguing over the textures and frame rates of ME2 and Dragon Age in the PS3 and 360 versions

but....

Everyone here is obviously typing on a PC so.......

Just go get Dragon Age and Mass Effect for your PC and have Max settings in Full HD at over 60 FPS.

problem solved!! YEh everyone Happy now

[Traveler]

Umm...just because someone is typing comments on a PC does not mean that their PCs can come close to running these games at acceptable levels. The laptop I am typing on now would run these games at 5fps... that is, if it could run them at all.

There are reasons why people are happy to play a game like Mass Effect 2 on their 360s or PS3s.

[ATi_Elite]

My bad Traveler! I totally forgot that those crappy iPads can connect to the internet. LOL

[ufo8mycat]

I expect ME2 on PS3 to be like the 360 version but with blur and most likely washed out looking textures (like most multiplats)

Sorry, but playing ME2 with the DualShock 3 controller alone, is enough to impact on the gameplay, in a negative way.

Thank god I can use my 360 pad for the PS3

Cross Battle Adapter FTW!

[Justin_bristoe]

...has got to be torture for these xbugs lmao cry more!!!

[el zorro]

Nope, we got to play it a long time ago. Enjoy your sloppy seconds. Don't even get to enjoy the first one and transfer over your saves.

[Justin_bristoe]

enjoy it i will.exclusive it's not anymore,down the path of the darkside this news may bring you....bwahahaha. i don't care if it's sloppy seconds fewl. this was 360's final fantasy! this revenge tastes so sweet.and sony was even nice enough no to destroy the 360 keynote at e3 with this information,bwahahahahahahahah a CRY MORE I SAY!

[maxcer]

@ Justin_bristoe

lol how old are you kid? don't worry, one day you'll get a job and grow up and see how dumb you sound.... unless your an adult in which case i'll just leave you to post more childish comments on an web site.

[Garrus_Vakarian]

of your grammar.

Also, to you sexbox comment:

The PS3 won't be getting the Liara/FemShep lesbian sex scene.

Enjoy watching it on YouTube! >: P

[jackdoe]

Sounds like all he's saying is that there are going to be different rendering techniques due to the ATI/Nvidia chipsets in the 360 and PS3 respectively. These sorts of differences occur for PC games to begin with. Sounds like CVG is taking a choice quote from an interview and blowing it out of proportion.

[Whackedorange]

Dont matter how good they make it cause i allready got it in my collection and i see no reason to fork out for a full price for a title i allready own

[saimcheeda]

when we see it!

[Argento-Nox]

It's just great to see that ME2 will be a option for PS3 only gamers, and no doubt ME3 will follow. Having Valve and now Bioware as multiplatform developers, just means more gamers will have the option to play some great games on either platform.

It's not like it's a loss for 360 gamers since they have had both ME and ME2 to play for a while now, this just means gamers in general win b/c more of them can now play a great ME2 game on more than one home console.

[hazelamy]

i would expect some improvements, all the core development on the title has already been long finished, so now they can in theory spend more time refining the game for the ps3.

[Solans Scott]

I thought the game was scheduled for release in January but the article states February.

[CrIpPeN]

I wonder if this is positive or negative? :\

[lochdoun]

You people make me laugh.
You falsley assume that PS3 is gonna have the "superior" version just because of the dlc.
Well guess what? I can GUARANTEE that around the same time ME2 releases for PS3, they WILL also release a GOTY edition for Xbox with all of the dlc included. Count on it. Thus having the Xbox version remain superior.
Enjoy the visual "changes" NO ONE said it was a positive change.

[ksense]

NO ONE said it was negative either.....

Anyways the PS3 users will most probably be getting an interactive intro just to get caught up with the story and have important decisions carried over which will probably not be in the x360 GOTY edition if it comes. Besides I heard the first one had a good story and not so good gameplay so it might work out for us :P

Notice how I used PROBABLY or MIGHT instead of guarantee like a noob fanboy like yourself...