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PlayStation Move Review: The Hardware and Experience - Joystiq

Joystiq: "Four years after the arrival of Wii, Sony's take on motion controlled gaming is finally here. Well, at least it's here at Joystiq, where we got our hands on the final hardware and initial lineup of games a couple of weeks in advance of the peripheral's September 19 North American debut."

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Raoh4987d ago

i think it would be a little fairer to also review it with a more hardcore/mainstream game.. waiting for heavy rain and resident evil 5 would have been a better way to go for a full review..

as is reviewers are going to flip flop their opinions based on each release not giving the controller itself a fair shake..

Hallmark Moment4987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

Why would waiting for games not built from the ground up for MOVE be better? The masses are not going to care about patched games they will be interested in the tech in its entirety when it comes to games designed for the motion device.

Dragun6194987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

So by your logic, your saying no ones going to be interested in patched games for Kinect such as Forza 3, Fable 3, or Harry potter?

Of Course, People will be interested in Move Enabled games. I mean if I picked up Move, It would certainly add to the value to know that I have games in my collection all ready to play with Move.

mcstorm4987d ago

The problem this brings is it will not bring new users to the PS3 because old games have had there biggest selling period. I dont see Move shifting another million or so re5 or eye pets.

I think sony need to build new IP's for Move and show what it can do rather than just add it into games.

This is what MS are doing with Kinect and they are not adding Kinect to old games Forza 3 will not work with kinect they are building a new forza from the ground up and Fable is being done the same way and in terms of marketing this is the best way to see it. Kinect is classed as a new experience for the 360 where Move is being done as a Add on.

I think Move looks like it could be a good bit of kit but before I fo out and get it I need to see some games that make me say wow not well ide rather just play it with the ds3.

MS have take a step back and looked at what Nintendo did with the wii and I think it will work out better for them in terms of bringing new users to the 360 where I dont think Move will do that.

JoeReno4987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

Move has plenty of new IPs coming its way. Thats really a non issue for move. The patched stuff you are talking about is Sony adding value to current owners of PS3 games. So it will have a draw for the players that are new to the ps3, and those of us that have been around since launch. I think sony is very smart by patching some games to support move, and i highly doubt sony is going to let patches for its 1st party games be half assed. MAG, and Heavy Rain are two good examples.

mcstorm4987d ago

Do you have any examples of any of the games that are coming out for move because I have not heard of any so far apart from sports games.

I don't mean games like kz3 or gt5 as they are games made for the controller with move added on.

I really hope they do bring some very good move stuff out because from what I have seen so far is not enough for me to go out and get it as the games like kz3 and gt5 will work better with the ds3.

DelbertGrady4987d ago

No one's waiting for Kinect. Why treat Move any different?

JoeReno4987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

Sure, off the top of my head Sorcery would be one.

But i think the deal is that Move or DS3 is all about options instead of forcefeeding motion controls on us. So Move only games might be fewer and farther between, but im sure these patches are not going to feel tacked on when sonys been working on Move for some time now.

Oh and eyepet was never released here in the states so I wouldnt be shocked if it did move a bunch more units after its released here

beardpapa4987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

Move is a controller that adds a different method of enjoying a game. It supplements the experience. It'd be silly to develop an AAA title that required Move controller to be mandatory as that will turn away potential customers that don't have or want Move.

It's the same with any optional video game controller device out there. And where were you during E3 mcstorm? They announced a good load of games w/ Move support like Joe said, Sorcery being one. There are also videos of FPS using Move where the targeting was actually better using the Move over the DS3. I think some gaming website mentioned it before, but the way they made Move work in an FPS is different than the way the WiiMote does. Something about how the Move cursor is independent of actual turning unlike in the WiiMote where the left/right movement of the cursor also turns the character.

mcstorm4987d ago

Thank you for the reply I forgot about that game after E3 and it did look like it could be good but because of the move or DS3 option this is why I think it will not be very big outside of the existing ps3 user base.

JoeReno4987d ago

For that we will all just have to wait and see. An interesting time to be a gamer for sure. Thanks for having a decent talk on topic without all the fanboy rage. A nice change of pace.

Well said beardpapa

bustamove4987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

-_- double post.

bustamove4987d ago

You cry about PS3 fanboys being in 360 articles and yet here you are in a PS3 article.

Keeping downplaying Move. It shows how scared you are of what it can do for the PS3.

mcstorm4987d ago

beardpapa I know what you mean the amount of people that just go off on one on this site is unreal.

beardpapa I only remember Sorcery being one of them that was a move only game the rest they showed used both and this was the point I was trying to make that I would like to see alot more move only games to take advantage of the tech as games made for the ds3 dont do this.

btk4987d ago

Uh...no... we will care about games that is patched to work with Move. And a lot of the new games as well. And what is this sudden storm of comments that tries to convince people that there is not Move games that has been build from the ground up for Move?

Any Star Wars game patched for a light saber battle will be a win. Any sword fighting game will be great. I can think of many places in Uncharted that I would love to have the Move controller.

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DatNJDom814987d ago

Butthurt 360 fanboys today........ whoa theres one. hallmark

btk4987d ago

Yes... the trolling meter is of the charts today with all the Move reviews.

jack_burt0n4987d ago (Edited 4987d ago )

"PlayStation Move a resounding success as a piece of consumer technology and general way of interacting with games. Yes, it's the natural evolution of the Wii Remote, but it trumps Nintendo's creation in every respect, from its accuracy (even MotionPlus can't match it) to the quality of its vibration feedback."

wow.

tumble and sports champions are AA from joystiq.

JoeReno4987d ago

Move is getting some great reviews from some media outlets that I wouldnt have expected. Good news for Sony. Im really looking forward to giving Move a shot.

HungPHAT4987d ago

I'm going to get MOVE for sure ! But I'm going to wait till LBP2 comes out cause I'll be playing Reach for a month straight

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

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SullysCigar957d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal957d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein957d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k957d ago (Edited 957d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH958d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS958d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH958d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721958d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever958d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar957d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics958d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH958d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos958d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils958d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH958d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein957d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr958d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721958d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard958d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH958d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever958d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal958d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal958d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH958d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin957d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290958d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo957d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC957d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy958d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa958d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins958d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos958d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever958d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC958d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever958d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen960d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad960d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007960d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia960d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992960d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992960d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad960d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex960d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992960d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic960d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad960d ago (Edited 960d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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