You'll need a pair of PlayStation Move controllers to get the Platinum in Sports Champions

The people over PS3Trophies.com have apparently got an early look at the trophies included in the PlayStation Move launch title Sports Champions. And one of them asks the user to play the game with two motion controllers.

[Johnny_Bravo]

$50 extra to get a trophy that means nothing, I'll pass.

EDIT: You're kinda slow aren't you? You need to spend $50 extra if you want to get that trophy, that $50 is towards another Move controller. Honestly, my comment was not that hard to understand.

[IRetrouk]

35 pound for a trophy? no, 35 pound for an extra move controller?, yes please, already preordered 2 moves plus 2 navs, cant wait.

[mantisimo]

....a lot of games would need 2 nav controllers anyway so don't see much of a problem.

You can always pick another up later when more games come out. Then plat if you wish.

Still personally not bothered about any of the motion controllers though.

[HeroXIV]

Haven't pre-order yet but I plan on doing the same. It'll be a more fun game with both controllers anyway, and people say it's overpriced but a LOT of official controllers -- even the plain DS3 controller, are quite expensive.

[BryanBegins]

The sad thing is that even with two Move, the experience is limited. Because yes you have two motion controls, but NO nav controller, meaning: no analog stick to move your character.

I still think Sony made a mistake. They should have included a sphere on the nav controller. Then it would make sense.

[Elwenil]

You can use a DS3 in place of the Nav controller so you don't "need" a Nav controller at all. It would probably be more comfortable, but not absolutely necessary.

Edit: Ah, I see what you are saying now. I guess you would be sort of limited to games that you basically stay mostly in place with two Move controllers. I wonder if there is something keeping them from making a controller that does both since it would seem sort of obvious once you think about it.

[IRetrouk]

they have dpads on them, so if they need to implement movment you could use those no? i spent most of my gaming time playing games using the dpad, im gonna file this under non issue

@T9X69 the reason i have a problem with kinect is that it dont work, if it did i would have no probs paying the 130 pounds they are asking for it, its simple, move works kinect dosnt, and dont say im just a fanboy either 73000 thats seventy three thousand gamerscore and still climbing.

stealth disagree, why not tell me why you do and we can have a discusion about it?

[BryanBegins]

@Elwenil: exactly, if you use two Move controllers, then it's either a on-rail shooter, or a game where the movements are controlled by the computer (like tennis table).

I really don't understand why sony did that. The only explanation I can find is to make the Move "look" cheaper: you can simply use the dualshock 3, so technically, you don't need to buy another Move or the Nav for any game. Still disappointing, I would love to have a really good motion controller.

[sikbeta]

@Johnny_Bravo

Of course you'll pass, don't you need a PS3 first? -____-

O-T

Not a problem, you can wait and when decide to buy another Move, something everyone will end up doing, you'll get the Plat....

[The Great Melon]

@BryanBegins

I too wished Sony would have added the sphere to the end of the navigation controller. It really wouldn't have cost that much. Also does the nav controller have accelerometers in it? If so, the bulb was an even more missed opportunity because it would have been able to recreate the movement capabilities of the Move completely.

I understand kind of why they left it off though. I don't people would find it very easy to move the controller while trying to move the analog stick. It just doesn't work well. However the track could be useful for certain situations when switching into menus and stuff of that sort.

[blumatt]

This isn't that big a deal. Most people will buy two Move controllers anyway. Hell, look how many Wii owners buy AT LEAST two Wii-motes (if not three or four). This will be a non-issue. Really, it's ideal to have at least two Move controllers anyway so you can play two players.

[rdgneoz3]

Yep, many will be getting 2 seeing as it does have games you can play with more than 1 person... Hell, the Time Crisis bundle looks sweet for co-op (3 games, $40, very nice).

[jneul]

I am getting the starter pack and my niece is getting the extra controller lol, so we will be fine.

[Theonik]

Or someone that just wants the trophy could exercise some common sense and borrow a controller from a friend if they get move.

[dan_chan89]

@ Johnny_Bravo your the slow one lol.

[RyuStrife]

Nothing wrong with that. If you're going to play against another person, you need 2 anyways

[T9X69]

If PS3 fans don't have a problem with buying 2, then why do so many PS3 fans have a problem with Kinects price? Kinect cost $150 for 2 players and one game, Move cost $150 for 2 players with one game, and another $30-$50 more if you don't own a two DS3 or want to use the sub-controller.

Not saying you particularly, but when Kinects price was announced it was flooded with PS3 fans saying it was to high, but then they turned around and said they was buying 2 Moves.

@IRetrouk - In your opinion it doesn't, but have you tried it? I have tried it, and it does work, not like MS makes it out to be, but it does work. That wasn't my point though, my point is there both Motion gaming accessories that cost the same for 2 players (possible more for Move, from what I stated above) yet people say one product is priced to high, when they cost the same.

@rdgneoz3 - I asked a question in which you obviously don't agree with, that does not make me a troll. There are 6 different reports to lose bubbles, trolling is just one of them.

Anyways, going with the DS3 isn't cheap unless you already own them, DS3 cost $20 more than a sub-controller. The PS Eye really doesn't factor into the price because it comes with the bundle that includes a game. My point has nothing to do with what Kinect/Move was suppose to do, that isn't doing. Its the fact of, if you want to play 2 players with Move it will cost you the same as Kinect if not more. There is no way of going around to try and make Move look cheaper for 2 players, it going to cost you at least $150.

@ArchangelMike - You're totally missing my point. Your opinion has nothing to do with my point, you think it fails, other that have tried it don't, you don't speak for everyone. If you're going to reply to my comment, make your comment about what I said, instead of going off why you don't understand why people defend Kinect. It has nothing to do with defending the tech behind Kinect, it has to do with the price.

[rdgneoz3]

@T9X69 Because kinect fans seem to think you need like 2 nav controllers when you factor in prices for 2 player games, when you can use DS3 if you want to be cheap. And since people thought you could play 4 people at once on Kinect for the same price as 2 people on Move. Also, Move is cheaper for some people for 2 players, seeing as the PS Eye has been out for a while now.

And as for 2 DS3, most people have 2 controllers that will be wanting to play 2 player games. If they didn't, they'd just be playing games alone and only need the 1 that came with the system.

And as for the OT, you still only need 1 Move to play the game. You can get another if you want to, but its not necessary. If you're gonna die if you don't get your platinum, then ...
Heh, I remember the days when people just played games for the fun and not for epeen points.

Edit: Why I waste my time replying to a troll, didn't see the bubbles at first...

[ArchangelMike]

It's not PS3 fans that have a probplem with Kinect. It's informed gamers in general who are able to recognise when they are being sold duff tech! unfortunately on N4G anyone who makes such comments is labelled a PS3 fanboy. I really don't understand why people would defend a piece of technology that has been proved time and agian that falls short in what it was supposed to be!

[Rainstorm81]

Move and Kinect are similarly priced, although my personal opinion is that move is worth the 150 and kinect isn't......Why??

Well you said it yourself...."I have tried it, and it does work, not like MS makes it out to be, but it does work"

If it doesnt work the way MS makes it out to be then ............IT....DOESNT....WO RK!!!!!

A pile of shyt could be $1.00...and i'd say that its overpriced.

[dizzleK]

@t9x69

you're absolutely right but the cultists here will never admit it, their indoctrination is too strong.

[Boody-Bandit]

@T9X69: "If PS3 fans don't have a problem with buying 2, then why do so many PS3 fans have a problem with Kinects price?"

It's not just PS3 fans that have a problem with Kinects pricing. It's people with common sense that have a problem with Kinect pricing and Kinect in general. I own both consoles and have no plans at this time to purchase Kinect. Why? I am not a casual gamer and have little to no interest in casual games.

Kinect will only work with titles specifically made for Kinect and they are not targeted at the 360 core audience but casual gamers. Everything I have seen thus far of Kinect shows limitations.

Move will work with nearly all games made from here on out that will appeal to casual and hardcore gaming fans. Move appears to be the most accurate motion controller on the market. That is reasons why it is the more viable option.

MS is trying to pull in the casual gamer to their console while ignoring their existing user base. Sony has made a controller for their existing user base but it will also appeal to casual gamers so they can expand their audience.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

The fanboys here are full of BS! Now that the cat is out of the bag, there will be more games that require two wands to fully enjoy, suddenly that "low" price Sony was selling them isn't as rosy anymore, it is "now" about the experience.

Well suck it, because Kinect can give you an experience none of the other can match including both PS Move and Wii.

To top it off, you might now have to buy 4 wands for the PS Move if you want to play two player games. That is at least $200 alone! But sure, just go ahead buy it as you will enjoy tacked on game mechanics on all your games! Enjoy!

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See what I did there? That is what typical fanboy response is! I can do it too!

With that said, it is an additional accessory (Kinect or PS Move) so you don't have to buy it. It doesn't limit what you do know, so why the hate?

[nycredude]

You guys just stop defending Kinect. No one is hating on it cause it's made by MS. They are hating on it cuase we are core gamers and nothing shown by kinect resemble core gaming. If you guys want to play with their sad ass casual lineup then fine admit it but please stop the BS like Kinect is for core. Maybe in 2 years it will have something but now it's a fail in my book.

[Chuk_Chuk]

You needed an eyetoy to get one of the trophies i don't hear people moaning.

[clarkdef]

This is true and I was extremely pissed with that....so I bought a eye.

[Playerz8]

Easy Plat.

[edhe]

At least it's not $50 per year to unlock *all* MP achievements eh?

amirite?

[Why o why]

i dont live by myself plus i have...you know...friends and a job

[UltimateIdiot911]

Lies, all lies. We all know us gamers live in our mom's basement and depending on dad's cc.

Yeah, I don't see why most of us won't end up with at least two Move controllers. For the Wii, my brother end up gettiing 4 Wiimotes. As for the price of an additional Move controller, just keep an eye on a good deal. I got my DS3 new when it first release for 40. So I can't see why I won't find a Move controller for around 40 new around release. I'm sure most of us know how to use the internet and there are quite a few sites to find good deals.

[sack_boi]

And you'll need two more Move controllers if you want to play with a friend.

[BattleAxe]

@ Johnny,

Why would you even buy that game if you're not going to buy the PS MOVE?

Think Stupid!

[ActionBastard]

Good thing I don't play games for trophies.

[table]

Same here, I gave up on trophies a few months ago. This is exactly what I was talking about in another article about online trophies exploiting us to buy DLC. They can shove their trophies up their arse, I'm finished with it.

[spunnups]

Me neither. I did when the fad was fresh, but now I just play the games.

On a side note, Sony has a lot to prove to me as far as peripherals go if they even want me to consider the PS Move. I've had the Playstation Eye since it was released and besides a couple PSN mini type games and Burnout Paradise, I've yet to really utilize the damn thing.

[NJShadow]

Why would you have Sports Champions WITHOUT Move? Seems pretty pointless to me...

[iWaggleVR]

"a pair" ;)

[ArcFatalix]

:P

[BiggCMan]

as much as i love what the move has to offer, i do have to admit that it would be quite expensive to own enough of them along with the nav, for 4 people. 50x4=200, then 30x4=120. so 320 for the full experience. pretty steep, but u could always just buy them at seperate times. then again 4 ds3's are 220 or somethin like that, or if u really want the maximum, which is 7, its like 400. i really dont think anyone has 7 ds3's though, nor is there any game that supports it yet. maybe smackdown vs raw but i cant confirm that.

[SolidSystem]

you cant have 4 players.

bluetooth supports 7 slots

each device takes a slot.

someone is left with no nav.
move with a full set = 3 max. no 4 player split screen shooters here.

[jneul]

most 4 player games on wii = 4 wiimotes no nunchuck, you could have 4 player the same way with move, but space gets cramped with 4 players so most people just do 2 player.

[SolidSystem]

Jneul

are we realy looking to the wii for a real multiplayer comparision? the wii gets party games with a flick of the wii-mote wins.

i'm just pointing out getting something like Resistance split screen with 3 friends using move would be impossible.

[BiggCMan]

right, right. my bad. wasnt thinkin straight, 4am here. but yea ur right, since the bluetooth only supports seven, then a game which requires the nav can only support 3, without the nav though, 4 max, cuz the eye only tracks 4 move spheres at a time, im pretty sure i heard this through those 2 head dev guys for the move, anton mikalov, and the other one.

[edhe]

Oh.. dear?

Really?

it runs out of controller slots? What about when you've got a couple of dualshocks on the go - then have a chat pad on one then you decided to play and you have two moves, 2 navs - then your mate comes over, and.. well TOUGH SHIT.

HAHA!

[DrDreadlox]

Only 4 controllers can be used in conjunction with the Eye, be it Move controllers, Nav controllers or even the DS3. That means;
1) 2xMove + 2xNav(or DS3) = 2players OR
1) 4xMove = 4players
Keep in mind that some 4 players party games are likely to be "pass the controller" type.

[Cenobia]

Kind of an idiot aren't you...

You can't have 7 devices running -simultaneously-. It's not like the PS3 reserves one bluetooth slot for one device for all of eternity.

You should probably think things over before you post.

[jack_burt0n]

least it does 4 player LOL

[SolidSystem]

and people keep spouting off that you only need 1 move controller.
its obvious sony is perfectly content with having users required to use 2 move controllers.

putting it in the same price range of all other motion solutions.

@theonik true enough, still this sets a presedence that its ok to single out those with and those without 2. I'll have 2. I'll want 2 if i ever try multiplayer.

I just dont like the precedence being set. no game should require 2. other wise the nav should have gotten a sphere on the end, and then you buy a 60dollar or what ever bundle with 1 move and 1 nav, which toget do everything.

[strickers]

yeah because 80 quid is just like 130.

[SolidSystem]

in USD
$99 move starter kit + champion game
$40 move controller

total cost $140

nice try.

[Theonik]

Requiring 2 move controllers and asking for 2 for the optimum experience is 2 different things.

Edit: Yeah i totally agree that the Nav should have had a sphere in the end but i think the reson they did that was that they wanted to keep the Nav cheaper than the DS3 and also make it so you can replace it with a DS3. Still bugs me though. Also annoyed by the lack of an analogue stick or Dpad on the main control.

[hesido]

I think you meant Move controller with an analogue stick. The second move in your left hand would back as what the nav does now. It would be so much better, and you could have dual wielding and free motion games.

[jneul]

most people will get the starter kit or 1move controller and then upgrade on number of controllers on the next month:P:P

[strickers]

Do you really believe it will be worth owning 4?
No,it won't.Buy 2 Moves,1 nav and you will be covered for 99% of your requirements.

[Baba1906]

thats what im doing. no bundle for that sadly and i allready own an eye.

[clintos59]

Trophies & Achievements dont mean squat to me. My stats online shows how good I am & if its a single player game then completing them on every difficulty is all that counts to me but for those who love trophies, guess theyll have something to whine about.

This game looks like tons of fun though so I might have to buy another move controller just so family & friends can enjoy it aswell.

[DelbertGrady]

Sneaky.

[edhe]

Expected.

[peeps]

soda is a fanboy lol but he's totally right and i think it's unfair that he'll now get disagree's no matter what, even if his comment does make sense. It's the same as burnout making u buy pseye/xbox cam in order to get platinum.

Imo this will actually spur people on to get a second move controller earlier than they would have done otherwise. When i see some of my friends on both live and psn you can see just how addicted ppl can get to earning trophies.

[Naughty Dog]

I think stores should give you a discount if you buy a starter pack with another Move controller.

[Alos88]

You'll need a pair to complete Silent Hill 2.

[Briefcase Joe]

You need to have an internet connection to get online trophies that count towards the platinum trophy on many games. So, why is this a big deal? You won't get cancer, if you don't unlock the platinum trophy. I'll probably play this with a friend that lives down the street, when he gets the bundle, and we can unlock the trophies for each other.

[ArchangelMike]

personally I have bout 4 DualShock 3 controllers. The PS3 (and 360) come with one controller! Did anybody moan about this, it is a foregone conclusion that the console is packaged for 1 individual. If that individual requires additional controllers they'll haver to purchase however many they need separately. This has been the norm since the last 2 console generaltions.

It's a redundant argument at best to diminish the quality of the motion controller because you would need to buy two! The majority of console owners have had to buy extra controllers for one reason or another anyway, so what exactly is the big deal with Move???

[redsquad]

Excellent argument!

[ndibu]

So u can play the entire game with just one but to platinum it you need two? Lot lol lol! Come on, now thats just greedy.
Ps, microsoft is greedy too, but that doesn't take anything away from Sony's greed at this moment

[peeps]

Well i was originally intending to buy the bundle plus sports heroes (in uk the bundle only comes with a demo disk but it's cheaper) since you can play this with 1 controller and see how it is first. It may turn out that although you can play with a single controller it's more fun with 2 anyway (i imagine it is especially for the gladiator game and archery)

Might just get the bundle at first though and see which game i enjoy the most based on the demo disk. At least the games are budget price (£25) which i think is a very smart move (no pun intended)

[Corrwin]

Or Trophies that take advantage of being online?

Nobody's forcing you to buy an extra controller or earn the trophy. I'm sure Trophy whores will find other games to grind.

[Calm Down Sunshine]

Is there really a news story about a worthless Playstation trophy?

I suppose it's only natural to start nit-picking when there's little fault with the hardware.

[SIR-DARK-HAZE]

I see no problem with this, it just means i wont be getting the platnum trophy straight away. Xbox you need to pay for xbl to get a score of 1000 if it requires an online achievment on a game. Why do people have a problem with kinect price.... because for the playstation 3 it's optional. There is only one game so far that requires two move remotes which is The fight lights out. So to play pretty much all games it costs a ps3 and £50

[jack_burt0n]

good thing the controllers are cheaper than a dualshock.

[MariaHelFutura]

I`ll have 2 anyway so IDC. On a side note, some people care about trophies way too much.

[tiamat5]

Exactly Calm Down Sunshine. People sre starting to get desperate if they are harping on about this. 'Oh no, I need to buy two Move controllers so I can put another digital trophy on my wall, which automatically make the Kinect cheaper, more functional and viable in everyway'. Please people, unless you have any sensible arguements against the Move stay out of these discussions.