Microsoft has claimed that the creation of its all new 250GB Xbox 360 is the final step in its solving of the console's biggest problem: The Red Ring Of Death.
Did they fix it or reduce it to an acceptable level? I mean, hardware problems always exist, can you really get rid of it? Anyways, my Elite seems to be doing well and I haven't heard many problems about RRoD with the Jasper models. Truth be told this should have been fixed years ago.
i think reduced...you're right in saying that there are ALWAYS hardware problems, not even the almighty ps3 is 100% unfaulty...its just to what extent is the reliability, and i do hope its down to atleast a 10% margin of error (thats pretty low, right?) i would like to get the new and improved xbox 360, looks like a sexy beast lol
Two pieces on information are missing here. What was the rate before and what's it down to now? This isn't the first time Microsoft claimed to have RROD under control. Great for new owners of the 360 if it's true but for a guy like me on his 4th 360 and afraid to buy new games for it this type of news does nothing for me at all.
Wow!! That's about time.. Some years later.. Sad they sold so many before they fixed it.. Well they knew they would earn more that way on naive people I guess.. So yeah.. Business I guess.. Why the hell didn't they bring the consoles back from the shelves to solve the issue in the first place???? I imagine in my head some drunk old man with a beer in his hand saying "yeeea son, we solved it" years after he should have done what he had to do.. Also I don't get how on earth anybody gets away with a failure rate like that.. I mean, think if every third Ipad sold just died.. ?? WTF.
and she'll be happy, or sad being that it seemed she liked having two broken 360's :/ http://e3.g4tv.com/e32010/b...
I have never head of slim failing ?
I think they fixed it. It was always known, especially if you're a hacker, the main reason for the RRoD was because the 360's design was pure shit. There was no room for air to circulate and the casing and placement of chips was simply bad. Not so much on bad parts but the design was just awful. This time around they have no reason to rush, no reason to go the cheap route, and new design that uses less power, has more air vents, and a better motherboard according to those leaked screenshots. I think they fixed it a long time ago. Just couldn't do anything about it until today
There's no data on the failure rate of the new model as it isn't out yet/they just started selling it in the market. We have to wait a while to know the actual failure rate. I wouldn't believe the marketing bs from any company regarding that.
They said that with the Elite lol. The interior cant be that different because it still has 90% the same size/shape, they have just cut a few things out or are using smaller components.
We will see about that. They said the same thing about the Jasper, but that didn't work out too well.
They have to put them in labs, run them for hours on end to make sure they don't burst into flame, make sure they can deal with all sorts of conditions. Microsoft managers said years later they knew full well what the failure rate of the 360 originally at launch was. They do testing. What was the failure rate before and what is it now? How many revisions of the hardware have we seen where this was still an issue up until Jasper allegedly fixed the problem? I bought my 360 back when Microsoft was maintaining that the failure rate was right at acceptable industry standards. I thought all the moaning going on in the forums was just a noisy minority of unlucky 360 owners and I choose to believe Microsoft because surely they couldn't outright lie about something that important, right? 4 consoles later and I know now if I had any idea how much trouble my 360 would be, or that in the long run it would end up costing me $900 in total for the console, extended warranty after 2 consoles died, XBL, charge and play kits, wi-fi, more battery packs when the ones I own die...etc - I wouldn't have touched the 360 with a 10 foot pole. Microsoft caught me with their lies. Damn straight I'm going to question their word now.
They never really confirmed or denied that it existed in the first place, and by the sound of it they've specifically removed any use for the term in the redesign.
to 100% it no longer will glow red rings when the hardware is broken but a different color mybe blue ring of death, or yellow ring jk but that great news, they should have done this years ago i will wait for the first report of the new slim before i buy one
with the jasper units the rrod was reduced it to an acceptable level, new with new board, chip and cooling, the problem is gone for good
"the problem is gone for good" I am one of those suckers that bought each new revision hoping the problem was resolved and I was proven wrong nearly every time. I'm not doubting that maybe MS did finally elimtinate this issue but just coming out and stating it as a stone cold fact is a bit of a stretch. Slightly off topic but I recently picked up the MW2 bundle edition (got it so cheap I could pass it up $200 brand new) Jasper unit and it runs quieter for some reason than my other 2 arcade Jasper units. Weird but I'm not imagining it. Maybe they have different disc drives or something. I'm a little on the eccentric side and own 5 360 units but 3 of them were because of a 3 panel display for racing.
i don't trust anything MS says about the RROD, Its more a wait and see with the new design. Won't be getting a new X360 until i'm confident it won't die on me again so easily(within acceptable margins). @above nothing is ever 100%
MS has lied this entire generation about their hardware issues to a sleezy completely dishonest level. I have had nearly every version of their 360 revision die on me including the new Jasper. Before people start claiming I am troll or lying check my post history and see if I respond to failure rates of the 360's hardware on past articles. Now I will say that problems are lesser with each new revision so I agree with you Alpha-Male that it's probably now just to acceptable levels.
I don't trust MS as far as I could throw them with the RROD problem on 360 and 360 slim.
How can they be in the final step yet are already producing new consoles, some of which were given away today and more are shipping today. The console isn't right until the final step IS COMPLETED. Personally I think there is a new issue coming. Motorization in Kinect is asking for it.
Don't care. And not going to care anything MS says from now on. They ripped people off for 5 years selling their system without built in Wi-Fi, a power supply that can't even support 3 integrated USB ports and after 3 motherboard revision they didn't do anything to repair major flaws. And now they gave away these for free to the idiots who attended their conference and didn't give us, real supporters anything but a big empty ballsack. No new worthwhile Live service additions, no extended support for other countries and nearly none new games we didn't know about before conference. Keep going like this MS and your downfall will be epic. Make a hardcore console. Pump it up as "the console" to play hardcore games for 5 years and turn 180 after 5 years to make it more appealable for casual crowd.
Now you're just being butthurt. Microsoft isn't going to knock on your door and beg for forgiveness. They're not even trying to get you to buy one. Their demographic target has changed from whiny know-it-alls on the internet to the exercise junkie moms.
If you call "waiting for a whole year for new and unknown announcements and getting disappointed" as butthurt. Yes. I'm.
You know,things break
MS: What Red Ring problem? - 2006 MS: Red Ring problem only exist to a small vocal community - 2007 MS: We've fixed Red Ring problem by extending the warranty for 3 years - 2008 MS: We've fixed Red Ring problem with Jasper models - 2009 MS: We've fixed Red Ring problem with the new Slim - 2010 MS: We've fixed Red Ring problem with ____ __ ____ ___ - ????
The size has remained the same and there are more air vents. The internal components have been shrunk down. Hence, there's a shitload more airflow. That in itself will help reduce RROD because the X-clamps that usually fall off due to excess heat won't heat up anymore. End of story.
change the light color. introducing the blue ring of death.
put your hands down and surrender RROD killed ur chances
I can't believe no one has asked or mentioned whether the new console will have a standard 1 year warranty or the infamous 3 year warrant. "Infamous" because of how it came to be. I gotta be honest, that new 360 is a sexy little fkr but I still have low interest in the actual game line up on the 360, current and future.
i've got another one for 'ya, a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar.... this redesign is what the 360 should have been 4 years ago, man. too little too late, at least for me. i've been too spoiled by sony to give the 360 another chance, sorry.
lol, typical I always see you bashing hardcore on anything Xbox.
thats nice, but looks like youre always up to give a 360 article a chance right ;)
It is not fixed until ign red light podcast is gone. That's what ign said a year or two ago.
Well the way the new Xbox looks, they could replace the red with yellow and we will finally have a PS360.
I wont believe MS, I would wait for the consumer reaction after a month, if everythin goes well I will get one, otherwise Im completelty satisfied with my ps3 :)
I feel completely confident buying a more compact 360 now that MS says it's okay! Nothing could go wrong there.
years to fix it right...
took them long enough
My year and a half old Xbox 360 is still going strong and I play Forza 3 a lot. Lets hope that new Xbox is just as good.
5 years later...
i like the new 360 it looks nice. but idk there still isnt really any games i wanna play on the 360. i have one and really all i play on it is rock band just cause i was givin all the instruments. i also would have like to seen a price drop with the new model like sony did with the slim.
There you have it, the definitive 360 version, I wonder if a white version will come out once the old stock is gone
Wait.It took 5 years to get a definitive 360? LMAO Am I the only one who sees holes in the emperor's underwear?
You are not the only one.
Omega4, how long are you going to keep playing this game?
and it will be just like the last time they said it was fixed...
Didn't they already say this years ago? lol
Does that mean that the new models don't come with the 3 year extended warranty?
I still won't buy one. But good for the people who is buying the new one. Glad they don't have to suffer with that nonsense anymore.
It's more publicized but after the first year models everything got a lot better. They shrunk the tech down and have a better understanding so of course were not going to have the RROD issues. I went down to Gamestop today to see if I can pre-order one, but they make you do a lottery first, then you get the right to buy one or whatever. I guess there has been a lot of people interested in this new design.
I'm willing to bet if they continue to use Lite-ons for their drives they will still continue to fail. Never had an RROD but sure have had to send in for repair for not reading discs
hahahahahahahahaha.... wow....MS should have done a stand up comedy conference they're good at it
ABOUT TIME M$ ... now give me one for free ( because i waited long enough )
I think this might be my reason to re-buy an xbox 360, the design is nice and it looks like Microsoft are really trying.
It was "fixed" long ago and just morphed into E74. Look at the Microsoft own company Square Trade. They only report on the RROD failure rate and always leave out the E74 failures.
I hope it is true, I will test it. I hope not a lie again like Jasper Chip.
Give it 6 months then we'll see if you fixed it or not.
they say that at each new xbox model and all i hear is blah blah blah xbox is still a crappy console
I've read the article and have come to a very fine conclusion: NO YOU DIDN'T! This is a war ( well to some people anyway) between the consoles. Of course M$ will say they fixed it, which may lead some into buying it because they'll think they have little to no chance of a failed hardware purchase.
That would've been great news if this was still 2007.
well they have just lied in that article saying ''. But it hasn't really happened for a while. The stuff we're seeing is only really happening to people with launch consoles'' I know people with brand new console from end last year that have got RROD My mate re bought a 360 for xmas and it lasted to middle january then RROD microsoft are just liers.
No, the RROD will never be removed. Its part of MS Viral Marketing to sell more consoles. When you have a libary of X360 games, and your X360 dies and is out of warranty, what do you do? You buy another X360. Now for warranty, please bear in mind that 3 months warranty is not world wide. Where I live Microsoft gives us only 6 month warranty. With this tactic, MS can sell multiple consoles to one user, thus they get more money.
Yeah... Suuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrre you did, Microsoft. :)
Hurray. And it only took about 3 or 4 years of broken consoles and gamer inconvenience. Now what errors, glitches and/or problems that you are not telling us about can we expect from this model?
All products fail, do they fail with in reason? thats a diff story Hopefully this is a within the normal 1-3% range. Eithier way I like it, Im getting one.
You guys are looking at this ALL WRONG. Shame on you! This is a great step for the 360 to becoming closer to a PS3. :)
I can't imagine we have had the Jasper....then this new one it's gotten better.
Yeah, they fixed it on the original Xbox 360 models - but now it'll take another 4 years to fix this updated 360's. Teehee.
I don't know if its 100% fixed, because that sounds impossible and people store their consoles in odd places with no air flow. I have 2 360 units that i use daily. One is more of a dvd player, and play on it occasionally cause its hooked up to my 1080P LG tv.. via HDMI and i have another that is hooked up to a standard 27" tube, via Component (EDTV). The one downstairs is 2 years old.. and the one with the 27" tv i got last xmas.. it is the arcade unit (as i have a harddrive i can move, no need for elite/pro) i buy a lot of new games and i play a lot of game (look me up, M9 Prime <-Gamer Tag. I don't know what the problem is, i had doubts about the relability but i keep it clean and well vented. Never had a problem. SO i can see that these new units may have even more chance of not breaking. I plan on buying another HD TV.. and then when Sony announces a price drop.. i will pick up a PS3 (or two).. lets face it. MS stepped up their game, the realized that they had issues and they worked towards it. The game library on both consoles is strong and the LIVE service is great (just wish i had NETFLIX in canada!) i am more curious about the PS3 PLUS service(paid online) i want to see how that will compare to LIVE.