Scrawl: "Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada has responded to the reactions of Final Fantasy Versus XIII possibly coming to Xbox 360. Apparently, he’s surprised."
Source Link: http://scrawlfx.com/2010/05...
Waiting for M$es check to clear are we?
Or he looked out the window and saw a angry mob with pitchforks and torches or as it is Japan samurai swords would be a better choice.
We will see FFXIII become a multiplatform game at E3, enabling Microsoft to once again parade around the mainstage about a game that is still multiplatform, yet will be pushed as an exclusive by Microsoft. As much as I want Versus to stay exclusive -- because we have yet to see what exclusivity can do for a FF game this generation -- I have a sinking feeling that Wada will push for multiplatform status on this one as well. We shall see what happens in the coming weeks ahead, eh?
Nomura might be leading the mob of samurai sword wielding Versus-stay-on-PS3 mob
He's suprised? has this clown been living under a rock this generation? *facepalm*
It doesn't matter what console it's on. I think it just makes sense for developers to take their games multiplat. My concern is that the 360's aged hardware would hold back development on the PS3. For some unknown reason, developers always try to keep their games exactly the same across platforms. Why? When the PS2 and Xbox were going head to head, everyone knew the Xbox was a more capable machine and no one had any issues using the Xbox's power to make better looking games. Yet this gen many seem afraid to play to the strengths of the PS3 when it comes to multiplatform releases. I don't get that. We know what the PS3 is capable of because we've seen it over and over again through it's excellent exclusives. Make the best damn game on whatever platform you're working on and parity be damned.
Hey man..."virtual handshake to ya" I've been puzzling over the same thought for years. I have yet to hear a single answer from directors, devs about the matter. Strange.
No wonder Japanese video game development is in a course to extinction.. They forgot their own and em-brassed foreigners, the dollar mostly.. Its a shame Japanese culture is all but alive. @ 1.1.6 and 1.17 The answer is pretty much in your face. MS is smart. The took advantage of the head start they got which made developers invest on the 360. Then when they got them by the balls they told them 'If you dare making a multi platform game superior on the ps3 we will scrap the 360 version' and to keep them happy they greased the hell out off them. What would you do if you were a developer back in 2006-07? Sony, to their own loss, never did this with the ps2 and the ps3. But why doesnt Sony force them not to release a game that is inferior on their console I hear u say? (especially heavy hitters like RedDR) It beats me! Dont get me wrong I give MS the thump up, they have balls and they used them sort'speak, in the end it paid off.
I didn't think anyone else noticed that one ... but ya, I'll never forget Onimusha on XBOX and MS's campaign on how much better it was ... Sony, devs, etc could do the same but it's all a little odd. yet, dev houses, producers, etc know what they are doing .. they'll gimp games (on whichever platform) and keep them the same (more or less) to keep gamers in the current install base happy... if one game was so drastically better (in this case the ps3) visually/gameplay wise they would be missing out on the XBox Market (or vice versa); so they'll do this for sometime.
Not to diss on darkride as most of your comments are levelheaded. But exactly how the X360 aged hardware when the ps3 has an even more aged graphics card? The best thing in the ps3 is the 256 MB of XDR RAM. The speed on it is impressive. rsx is not and to put all fanboy issue aside, you know that too. I know that if Versus went multiplatform it would sting, heck think about the comments sony fanboys made when Bungie expressed wishes to develop for ALL platforms. Although it didn't affect X360 it still stung and that was worse because they WERE owned by MS and First Party. Difference is that SE is Third Party. So yeah it does sting but life goes on. The amount of support for MS this gen is startling. Never would have thought it in a million years. Especially since they bought Eidos, a PC dev and publisher, yeah, things are going to get intersting very soon . . .
Nothing startling about it. Profits speaks the loudest and you would be a fool to ignore the PS3/Xbox 360 right now.
Maybe he saw Nomura's reaction
Better start stockpiling discs, SE....
No need. They'll just compress and cut, compress and cut.
Microsoft has the money. The problem is that the 360 might not be able to handle the world map and backtracking. He is waiting for the devs to give him the ok. Which hopefully they wont.
what makes you say that? Just asking, where did you get the facts? Im not a fan of Final Fantasy anyways. But hopefully this baby stays on ps3 :3
he is talking about changing discs etc when moving from different areas on the map!
...and Nomura said a few months back they might not make e3 due to changes to the way the world map worked.. It seemed to suggest they were making a more linear game, presumably to cater for the 360 for the reason Caso above stated.
Is this a joke? 360 can't handle it? PS3 is only better by graphics a bit and they don't need to use multiple discs, it has NOTHING to do with them watering it down. Lost Odyssey had no problem with Back Tracking and the world was huge. Trust me they will, you have no idea how either system works, you're a freaking idiot.
I don't want 360 to gimp Versus ¬___________________¬ ;
From what we've heard from developers, nothing suggests the PS3 will 'gimp' anything. We know that, on either console, exclusive development produces better results. When an exclusive PS3 game is being developed, then down the line becomes multiplatform, it is not going to be as good as it originally was. The same thing would have happened with the 360.
Let me get this straight, the PS3 is the reason SE REMOVED towns, NPC's, sidequests, basically a WHOLE game from FFXIII? You're saying the PS3, with it's immense capabilities for scale and visuals, is the reason FFXIII suffered major content cuts? *sigh* delusional fanboys.
does anyone still give a crap about Square-enix after the FF13 incident? us PS3 fans should just abandon them.
Because nothing will convince SE to 'do the right thing' for their PS3 fans than not buying their products.
The only reason I have a bit of faith in FF Versus is only because of Nomura.
I agree, any PS3 fanboy who thinks Versus will be a great game because is exclusive is blind as a fucking bat. This game is going to suck as much as FFXIII did. As a PS3 and 360 owner, I wouldn't buy into this even if it was exclusive.
I think people let their emotions get to them a bit too much on this site. Not buying FF games if they go onto the 360 console only leads to less sold on the PS3, which then leads to them being further encouraged to stay on the 360 platform. You want them to listen to why they shouldn't forget the PS3? Then be coherent, sensible, and even-headed and approach the situation as a community that speaks to SE with a determination and desire to be seen for the fans you are and the desire to be treated as such.
if they care about us PS3 fans, they wouldn't release it on the 360. and its not like they are doing it out of good cause, they just want $$$. if they are treating us like crap, then why should we support them?
SE has not produced one single AAA title this generation!
I'm surprised he was listening. I don't care where it goes. Just make it good and interesting.
Yh, as long as it's a good game who cares how many platforms it's on
Don't Push Harder Wada, You do it, you lost Nomura and that's the Beginning of The End for your Company, your "westernization dream" didn't work, the release of FF13 as a Multiplat game didn't get you more money, FF Supporters starting to lose Faith in the FF Series and that's Only Your Fault, better FOCUS on PUSH The Boundaries with the Next FF Game, cos IF not, say goodbye to the Money you want so bad...
Kinda makes me not want a FF7 remake... 'cause they'll probably fuck up on that too........... It's sad, this company was once my favourite developer...
I have lost all faith in SquareEnix in the past ten years too. I say let whoever made FF:Crisis Core take over the production of FF and add a more traditional FF battle system and exploration. That's the only Final Fantasy title that has been any good in the past ten years!
As much as I don't want it to, this pretty much shows that they're really considering making it multiplatform.
People care about FF games? Are we in mid 90s early 2000? No!? Ok then who cares! FFX was last good FF. 360 can have Versus, FF14, etc WHO CARES!
I don't really care anymore, JRPGs are becoming extremely repetitive and boring (except for Demon's Souls of course).
This really shows how out of touch the guy is. Why would people react badly? No it's not because they are angry 360 owners will get to play it, not in the least. I personally worry that if the game went multiplat it's content would be cut back (like FFXIII's game-worth of content) and it would be delayed by a year (like FF XIII was so that they were released on the same day in NA) If they do decide to go multiplat I don't want to hear of ANY cuts to content or any version is held back in order to complete the other. It's a shame S-E had to reduce their overall vision to accommodate http://www.joystiq.com/2010... disc swapping.
It will happen for sure, but honestly my hype died for this game a long time ago.... Square Enix sucks now.
I've no idea why he's surprised, he doesn't remember the initial reaction of FFXIII going multiplat? Also a reaction such of this came about because Versus XIII was promised to be an exclusive. Whenever something like that is promised and developers go back on their words they should expect a large negative reaction.
@ "Waiting for M$es check to clear are we?" After the sales that FF13 had on the X360... even with a gimped version of the game, and having less sales then the PS3 version, but still sold pretty well. They would be pretty stupid not to port FF13 Versus to the X360. Microsoft does not have to pay for the game. The sales justify a port of the game to the X360, even if they have lesser sales then the PS3 version. I said a few months back that i would not be surprised if Versus come out on the X360. Unless there is a big check involved, nobody should expect 3rd party exclusives. Is Sony willing to pay a big check to Square for exclusivity??? EDIT... I think the same thing will happen with Rockstar's Agent. Unless Sony made some kind of deal or paid a big check, Agent will probably be a time exclusive for the PS3, and be released later on the X360/PC (like X360's GTA4 episodes).
while people are running around here acting as if its the end of the world seeing how another FF game might potentially be released on another platform other than the playstation, the guys over at SE are thinking about whats more profitable for them. if you don't plan on buying the game because "teh 360 dumbed it down", its not hurting them and there will be more people going out and buying the game because its "Final fantany" than there will be people not buying the game because its another FF game ruined by it going multiplat so either get over it or miss out entirely.... the funniest part is that so many people were hyping this game up to be 2 times better than FFXIII just because it was exclusive to the ps3 and some of the guys who worked on the KH series are involved in this game. if you like KH and the battle system, are you seriously going to tell me that you have lost all interest in buying this game just because its on another console? enough of this console patriotism bullshit. like a game on the basis of the game, not on the basis of what console it will be available for.
Its the quality of the game suffering because the 360's hardware can't compete with the PS3's hardware. Bluray+Cell = Good Time. Every single PS3 exclusive proves this over and over again. Hearing news of a Multiplatform game means its not going to be what it could be. It will be something OK, instead of being like Uncharted2/WhiteKnight/Killzon e2/ValkChron/LastGuardian/GodO F War3/GT5/MGS4, etc. Sure it might be a good multiplat, but even the best multiplats pale in comparison. Its getting excited because you might get a ferrari, then finding out its a mustang GT instead. Happens with everthing this gen, which is why this gen is garbage. MS's business plan is to just buy into the former image of the Playstation brand. Which is fine, because Sony doesn't depend on third party, but its still annoying for MS to just not want to develop Xbox associated franchises. You don't see Sony stealing franchises at e3 as their headline news. 360 owners should just buy PS3's if they want to play all of its associated franchises, no? I mean if everyone has the same titles, why not just have EA & Activision make 1 console. Halo and Guitar Herobox.
LIKE HOW?? u would think a person running a big business like SQUARE ENIX would know what the hell going on.
Makes you wonder if someone is reporting the numbers wrong to him or something.
And that'll tend to happen when you plug your ears and wait for the paychecks.
M$ is trying to buy its way through the gaming industry
Funny to see how xbox fans thing ps3 fans are upset cause they losing FFvs but thats not the case ps3 fans are mad cause if they lose the game and goes multi they will be upset about how crappy the game will be...and looking at how xbox fans react they talk with M$ money and say "who care as long as i get the game iam happy"...xbox fans could never be happy when a ps3 gets an exclusive game cause it will make their xbox look like crap but when a game goes multi they happy cause their xbox version looks slightly better and say xbox is way better than ps3
Oh my aren't we cheeky. On topic, this is not good news for those wanting exclusivity for the game. i didnt care at first, but thereapersson made a fantastic point: how many consoles could an exclusive FF sell? now im interested. However, This shows a widespread reaction to it, similar to the one ff13 achieved at the announcement, and that only furthered the games success(and sold a few xboxes cuz it bundled). So we can infer that perhaps this man knew exactly what he was saying the moment he said it, to only recant the statement later, and announce the exclusivity due to the rabid demands. Clever ploy, Wada Yoichii
So straight line levels again? No exploration till near the end of the game and cut out a whole half of the game again? Dont they remember that a contest was booed by everybody including the competitors and the winners when they announced that the price for winning was a copy of FF13 on the 360? Where's that video?
At the end of the day you can't trust 3rd party developers to make exclusive games for you. Thank god for first party games.
That's Why Paying For Exclusives is a "tactic" that goes nowhere, Timed Exclusivity can be only Applied with Big Titles...
That is why is good thing have a lot of 1st Party Developers. Like Sony or Nintendo.
MS: So Wada how does 50 milwion dorru sound to you? Wada: $_$ sold!
I always thought that Square sort of used FFXIII as a leverage to understand the 360 user appeal when it comes to JRPGs. Judging by these results was to conclude Versus state of being exclusive or not. Square isn't the same pro Sony only dev like they usually were last gen. The industry has changed and they have to accommodate to that. Personally, I've really lost interest on pretty much everything JRPG this gen (excluding Atlus and there MegaTen series) so I wouldn't even care if it goes multiplatform. As for Versus per se, I believe Nomura can pull out a great game so I hope he could redeem Squares reputation when it comes to the FF series.
I couldn't agree more (well, partly because it will only let me once) As long as Persona 5 is exclusive and uses that blu ray space, I am happy.
"As long as Persona 5 is exclusive and uses that blu ray space, I am happy." Atlus has hired 360 developers, and they are a small company. They won't use full of the PS3's power and blu-ray space.
I don't see where he wrote that he expects them to push the PS3's power, the space on the blu-ray on the other hand is entirely possible.
yep, developers were not used to MS handing out big checks for stealing exclusives ad time exclusive BS. Other than that we all know who is pushing gaming forward and who is milking gamers for their money with obsolete tech
I don't care where it goes, just make it an actual good GAME, you know, more than hallways and cinematics. That's all I ask.
it won't be as good as it could be if it goes multi platform, believe me. EDIT: will also probably be delayed for Xbox360 version too
This is exactly why people are pissed off at the thought of the game going multiplatform (at least that's how I feel). I don't want to wait another 2 years because these chumps couldn't pass up another MS handout.
Trust in Nomura, he will lead the way.
well people shouldnt expect 3rd party exclusives...
WHO CARES IF IT"S EXCLUSIVE OR NOT!?!?!?! Thank god for 1st party games??? How is it hurting you that this is now possibly multiplat? I own all 3 current consoles and I could care less if its exclusive or not. I'll buy mine on the PS3 more than likely and enjoy it.
The fact that there was no backtracking or world map in ff13 is the reason people care.
GTA 4 FF 13 ME 2 (lol)
Is Not a matter of Exclusivity or Not, before the Merge, Squaresoft always made Huge Games and Pushed as Far as the HW Could, that's why FF series have millions of Fans, people recognize their job, now we're talking about a Company that Put Quality Aside just for money and the Worst thing For Them [SE], is that is not Working while FF players get screwed...
Having one console ensures that there will be not be as many cuts due to hardware constraints or development time. If you played FFXIII and grew disgusted by the fact that you couldn't revisit places...it's prob. because of X360 hardware constraints (just imagine all of the disc swapping!). P.S. On an unrelated side note...I don't mind women in gaming (I loved Rikku, Yuna, Terra, and Oerba Yun Fang) but PLEASE stop with annoying tween characters like Vanille, Vann and Hope (The last two wined so much! Were they born with a pair?) By the way if you agree if my above para. then you will see why I love VersusXIII so much.