PS3, the best console to date?

VANTAGE MAGAZINE writes: "There has been so much talk on in the gaming industry today about the console wars, and the Playstation 3, after the insurmountable success of the PS2, has been very lackluster. Yes, on paper, its been a great let down for Sony, a loss for every console sold, wiping out the PS2's profits, but at the end of the day, which is THE BEST console on the consumer's side of things, for us?

....Here at Vantage, its the PS3 hands down!"

[ape007]

amazing exclusives

kz2,uncharted series,mgs4,infamous,god of war3,Ico 3,yakuza 3,etc....

if all 3rd developers start unlocking ps3's power and sony surpassed live with its FW updates and home updates

I think ps3 will be one of the best consoles in history no doubt

the future is so bright guys

I really REALLY want gta 5 be ps3 exclusive,gta is my favorite game,come on R*

gdc 09 looks to be fantastic for sony

[TheTwelve]

The only reason why people are not yet giving the PS3 its due props this generation is because it's still early.

But anybody with common sense must see that the PS3 is the best and will dominate, outside the case of Sony headquarters being hit by a nuclear bomb. There's just too much going for it.

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[LightofDarkness]

Agreed. Overall, the PS3 has definitely proven itself greater than it's competitors. It's not THE best in every single area, I still find XBL a better unified online experience and obviously the Wii's motion controls trump the Sixaxis (even if the majority of games resort to mindless wrist waggle).But in terms of number of useful features, technical capability, media centre integration and, most importantly, games, PS3 takes the crown so far, and it's likely it will retain it. Even if it doesn't take number one in sales, I think we can all agree that the PS3 has a leg up.

[Montreafart]

The PS3 is without any doubt the best console to date.
Consider its games, its functionality, its hardware, Blu Ray and its exclusive games.

Yes, PS3 is king. Falcon punch.

[dragondive]

Dude, this guy makes a lot of sense. I don't get why some of you guys don't agree with him...

[nothere413]

As bright as the future looks for us PS3 owners, I just can't see calling it the greatest console ever.

I miss the way games used to be back in the ps1/early ps2 era.

The PS1 will always be the best console to me.

Hardware-wise, it wins hands down, but I'm still waiting for some more awesome exclusive games that really catch my attention. And don't mention Killzone 2 as being "one of the greatest shooters of all time", because it's not.

InFamous could be the game to make me love the PS3 as much as Sony's previous consoles, though.

[LightofDarkness]

I agree with the KZ2 comment. It's very good, but it hasn't proven to be as memorable to me as the best that I can remember. Half-Life 1/2 certainly are, TF2 is, COD4 is, and Gears 1 is as well (I know, TPS, but it's still a shooter). Gears 2 was not very memorable for me because it was a re-tread of the first, and KZ2 has that similar feeling, it just feels like something I've done before. It's still an awesome game though.

[jadenkorri]

ps3 is doomed article is 5...4...3...2...1...look a ps3 is failing article...

[Aquanox]

Hardware wise, the PS3 is awesome. Could've been better? Definitely, without those bottlenecks in memory and GPU that keeps it from unleashing its true power, but it's still an awesome piece of hardware.

It's financially were it had its problem. By being too ahead of its time with Blu-ray, it didn't make financial sense, was positioned way to expensively and a world crisis didn't help Sony.

There are other components that also keep it from being the definitive choice. In terms of library, software sales says Microsoft has the nod with the highest attach ratio in a console ever. In terms of services, they still have quite a lot of work to do in their online service.

Ultimately, it's difficult to argue that most PS3 components are some of the most advaced in the market (Cell, Blu-ray, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi) but where Sony need to work is in the areas where it still gets outperformed.

[StayHigh]

Its just a fact the PS3 will dominate this year or next..We will get the last laugh in the end of it all..

[solidt12]

I agree that the PS3 is already the best console to date. Judging it by a few features that aren't game related that the 360 has is just dumb to me. It's about the games and so far PS3 exclusive are out shining 360 exclusives(first party) Look at all the new IP's Sony has put out.

[Shadow Flare]

If you look at just the hardware of the console itself, the ps3 is the best console ever by about a mile. Then you look at the games and it has some of the best titles in quality and quantity. And the games are technically above every other game on competitor consoles. 360 can't even handle the amount of grass in Flower for instance. And online wise it is practically on par with live, except psn uses dedicated servers which makes it better then live. So yes, ps3 is the best console ever made

[StephanieBBB]

I can't really agree with you there. Back in the PS1 era we got like maybe 1-2 really good games over the course of 3 years.

Now we get like 15 good games each year. I'd say that this era is abit better to be a gamer in =)

[nothere413]

We got alot more great games than that.

And back then, the games felt alot more inspired. Nowadays, the industry is all about money. And everyone and their grandmother has an FPS game that they made.

I'm sick of shooters. I want more great RPGs, and platformers, and sidescrollers.

[Common Sense]

The PS3 has no bottlenecks in memory, that would be the 360. The Cell and XDR have the run at the same speed (3.2GHZ). The Cell can read and write to the ram at the same cycle because of this. Granted the other half(256mb of GDDR3 memory)runs at ~700mhz - 800mhz. The 360 on the other has unified memory that runs at ~700mhz- 800mhz; this causes wait states, the processor has to wait every other 4 cycles to read and write to system memory. Talk about bottle necks.

[WildArmed]

You can see this coming, but the only time i'd say it is it'll have to be when PS4 comes out. Till then PS2 ftw :D

[FredFredrickson]

The PS3 has definitely gotten better in terms of what it offers, especially in terms of games, for the price. I'm not sure if it will make second place for this generation or not, but one thing is for sure - the PS3 will never hit PS2 numbers.

Blu-ray is still many years away from being something that most consumers are interested in, and the PS3 is no longer the cheapest BRD player, something that helped propel it where it's at today.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the next generation of consoles, and how the timing will work with the other companies. Nintendo shouldn't release a new console for a while now - they don't need to, as people are still buying the Wii in crazy numbers. Microsoft will probably try to beat Sony to the punch again, but they will only succeed if their newer system is backward compatible and affordable. They also don't want to beat Sony to the next gen by too early a margin.

Anyway, I went off on a tangent there. Ultimately, I don't believe that the PS3 will be remembered as the "best console ever," and I don't think much will change from now to the end of this generation.

[FredFredrickson]

"The only reason why people are not yet giving the PS3 its due props this generation is because it's still early."

We're already at least halfway through this generation (the next consoles will likely be released within the next 2.5 years). When is it not going to be too early to judge? As soon as the numbers pick up, if they ever do?

[rockleex]

Although PS3 HARDWARE costs wiped out PS2 HARDWARE profits.

We don't know how much Sony profited from SOFTWARE SALES on the PS2 and PS3.

Sony's not doing that bad if you put software profits into the equation.

[rockleex]

He stated that 360 can use HD-DVD for their games, and that is wrong. -_-"

[Marceles]

In before the riot starts.

I do have to agree with the ending though

"So at the end of the day,
what console gives you more bang to your buck? ...the PS3
what console has free online play? ...the PS3
what console is going to dominate when it comes to games? ...the PS3"

I thought it was funny that the guy mentioned the stupid gamingfront article though lol..."Why a PS3 price drop won't change a thing", a price drop would be huge. What would the competitors do then? Offer their consoles for free? They're practically almost there...or seems like they want to be there for bragging rights

[edgeofblade]

Same old fanboy bullshit. The value argument is horribly flawed as I have shown over and over and over again. $200 STILL buys you a logically complete, functional 360, and you are STILL only halfway to owning a PS3.

Click disagree if you think I can play a game on PS3 for less than 360. I dare you to make a fool of yourself.

[madpuppy]

200.00 buys you a 360 with no hard drive, essentially a useless space heater.

[Mike Wallace]

...love it. Works great.

[smokemeagain]

well we can also ask more questions

what current gen console is the most affordable in this recession? the xbox360
what console has a superior streamlined online community? the xbox360

what consoles are ur friends playing on? u answer that

at the end of the day it comes down to...what is most important to u?

da only console i have is da ps3 cos i love MGS4, Blu-ray and alot of its exclusive but am not blind to some facts

[thereapersson]

That honor still rests with the Playstation 2. The PS3 is close though, regardless of what the haters say (and boy are there are a lot of them...).

[Common Sense]

The PS3 isn't the greatest console yet but it will be at the end of its life cycle. It will sell over 100 million consoles. It will have an online experience that matches and surpasses XBL. It already has some of the best games this gen.

[Why o why]

ps2 is still the king. The ps3 definitely has the potential to oust it from its throne. Bang for your buck award goes to the swiss army knife closely followed by the ps3;) All you have to do is look at the games and look at the hardware both of which are solid.

[FredFredrickson]

I don't think the PS3 will ever hit the PS2's numbers. It tried to be too many things, ended up being too expensive initially, and it hurt the brand.

[Why o why]

new tech costs more. The ps3 has sold fine up till now and sony didnt even have to cull the ps2 in order to force some to buy the ps3. Im glad they took risks with the tech. The ps3 has at least another 8 years to match the ps2 as it didn't reach that 100+ units sold in a short space of time neither. Think long term.

[blackpanther25]

thats what they said about the psp(protable media player) and it sells like crazy.
Lets get this stright sony doing more than "one thing" with a console is not new. They have been doing it since the ps1 (oh yeah the whole music player and the ps2 being a media center for music and games).
You're just probably one of those people who only ever used a sony game product for gaming only.

[Mr PS3]

That Headline

[blackbeld]

Ohhh Yes it is.... I love it at the first day i bought it.... And today i even love it more... It's the best console i ever had... Blu-ray, media player, hdd, wifi, 1080p, dualshock3, online store, ect, ect, .... I LOVE IT!!!!!! It made my home complete..

[xbollox]

bubbles for PS3 fans

[piramides30]

Yes, It's the best but too much expensive.

[batmandarkknight]

honestly. its not that expensive. you gotta look at the word expensive from a certain view.

an HDTV worth 500$ is no expensive.
an HDTV worth 5000$ is.

a laptop worth 150$ is not expensive
a laptop worth 1200$ is.

a system WITH bluray, music player, internet viewer, gaming system, etc is worth 399$ is NOT expensive

[ukilnme]

I agree somewhat. What's expensive for some is not expensive for others. For people living paycheck to paycheck that want to buy their kids a console I am sure the PS3 looks expensive to them and I think any console would for that matter. It's all relative to an individuals financial situation. I dropped $600 for mine. Even at $399, I would have to reconsider it now that my wife has taken a pay cut. To sum it up, I think the PS3 is a wonderful system and worth the purchase if you can afford it.

Now for commenting directly on the topic I will say the PS3 is the best system currently out but I think the NES is the best system of all time. Mike Tyson's Punch Out FTW!!!

Edit: What up Why o why?

[Mike Wallace]

...but it is still expensive.

[Why o why]

it will still be too expensive for some. I actually know people who feel the wii's too expensive from a hardware standpoint.

@ ukilnme, kool kool, you good?

[LukaX23]

This is how it all starts... The damn fanboy wars... I'm not saying this guy is a fanboy, he's not. He's making a valid point as to why he likes the PS3 more than the 360. But when the average Xbot goes on N4G and sees this, he/she goes completely LOCO! To Xbox fanboys, STOP.

[batmandarkknight]

yeah. for some reason, when a person explains or express why he thinks this console is the best, everyone seems to go nuts.

[Omega4]

Blogspot FTW!

Whoop! Whoop!

[Nineball2112]

Hey the truth is the truth no matter where it comes from. ;-)

Truth FTW! Whoop! Whoop!

[Why o why]

funny, ive never seen you complaining about any of kotaku's sony hate articles, not once, funny

[LightofDarkness]

Excellent pic Nineball, really nails the difference in the user-base... and stuff.

[Omega4]

Maybe because kotaku doesnt end in blogspot.com >_>

[LightofDarkness]

Omega4: just because Kotaku do not directly refer to themselves as a blog site doesn't give them immutable credibility when it comes to opinion pieces. They're just delivering an opinion like you and I, just because they call themselves professional journalists and refer to pundits doesn't make their opinion any more important.

[Omega4]

Well i thought blogspot wasnt allowed on this site, but i guess i was wrong

And i never said their opinion wasnt important

[Why o why]

nah you just tried to dismiss their opinion because its a blog

[HDDVD_for_the_win]

Of course it's the best console out there... Tons of AAA exclusives, best FPS (KZ2), best stealth game and overall best game (MGS4), best platformers (LBP and Ratchet), best action adventure game (Uncharted)...

[batmandarkknight]

agreed.

[Polarburr]

PS3 and Vantage FTW!

[batmandarkknight]

yea, i found out about this site recently. pretty cool if you ask me.

[loctite_zexel]

In terms of Software, I think Microsoft and Sony are in it neck and neck. But in terms of hardware, no other system comes close to the PS3.

Personally though, with the exception of Gears, I like the PS3 exclusives better.

[Montreafart]

Because the software line ups of both consoles are not even remotely close.

One is at the top of Mount Everest, the other one is at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

[batmandarkknight]

hahahaha! same right here man. gears is the one thing i wish i had an xbox.

[Ps3fan1]

I have a xbox and gears 1 and 2 and still wish I never brought it.

[CYPHER82d]

I stopped caring about all this console war business a long time ago. Just bought the consoles and a PC to play some damn good games and love it.

Ill concede the article made sense but while I am by no means a fanboy, I will say that MS, its microsoft for gods sake, they have probably got something up their sleeve.
PS3 AND 360 FTW

I still think Nintendo can go rot

[bobdog626]

The Ps3 is allmost 10mill behind an you say that the Ps3 is the Greatest system ever? Man what you Smoking because i want some 12 .

[bobdog626]

If it's the Best why is it in Last Place?If it's that Good people will buy it no matter what.The Best console to date?that point can be Argued but the Most Expensive console to date?you guy's are Right on the Money.

[TheTwelve]

Because another console came out earlier, duh. What do you think would happen if the 360 and PS3 were released on the same day?

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[HDDVD_for_the_win]

For the same reason 360 is far behind PS2 ? Because the 360 is free too, and retarded US teens can't afford a PS3.

[Nineball2112]

So, according to your logic Bobdog... The Ford F-150 is the best because in 2007 (info. I could quickly find, but it proves the point), it sold the most.

http://autos.yahoo.com/arti...

On the other hand, vehicles like the Cadillac XLR, Porsche Boxster, Jaguar S-Type and X-Type and Audi A8 and S8 are inferior because they sold much less than the F-150.

Umm, I'll take the Porsche, thank you. :-)

[LightofDarkness]

Nineball, the thing is the F150 probably IS the best for what the buyers wanted. The difference here is, however, that if you're shelling out for the best overall gaming platform, the PS3 still wins. If you're into hardcore/competitive multi-player, XBL may hold a lot more sway with you, but for most gamers the PS3 takes the edge. And obviously there's a lot of value in that €399, but if you're in a difficult financial situation and the kids want a next-gen console, most parents will buy the $199/€179 console because they'll see they mostly have the same games and it'll do the job.

[Nineball2112]

@ Lightofdarkness... I was just trying to point out that sales doesn't always translate into what is the "best".

That's entirely subjective and based on each individual's wants/needs.

To me, a Porsche is much "better" than a Ford F-150. Of course, when I need to haul some dirt around... the F-150 is better. :-)

[silvacrest]

isnt this article talking about which console is the best?
not the one that has sold the most?

for me, because you get the most bang for buck, its gotta be the PS3

[Droid Smasha]

HELLLL NO

How could an overpriced last place console be the best console to date?

Maybe the ps1 or 2 you could say that but the 3 is the biggest failure for sony and then are just trying to stay afloat and regroup for next gen.

[Dimitri]

Look at the jealousy wow :D
Angry XBOX owner ;d

[Montreafart]

xbots are green with envy and crying all year long.

Whats the matter, stinking bots? Your misery has just begun.

EDIT: stupid xbots...you think we are stupid? Hahaha idiots.
Everyone knows that you are too poor to buy a PS3. Dont lie about how your PS3 stands in your room. I smash bots like you for fun.

[Droid Smasha]

Yep you got me Im jealous of the ps3 sitting in my room that I bought. I wish I could turn it on and play it like you guys. And look at that I got a psn id in my profile too how did that happen?

[talltony]

really? its not overpriced. It just gives you more than you asked for and how could you complain about that? its full of surprising new features. remote play is just awesome. you shouldnt look at it like that anyways, you should look at it from a console standpoint and forget about the price. compare what it has to offer to other systems on the market.

[Droid Smasha]

I still have one of the ps3s I bought on launch night. Sucks that the system isnt worth using much. ps3 really IS just a movie player for me just gets turned on once or twice a month. Same ol crap on psn.... is there a new pulse episode this week? LOL is sony still advertsing mk2 as popular? hold on lemme check....................... yep #4 on the list hahahahahahaha

[loctite_zexel]

Well aside from Gears, Left4Dead, Forza and *maybe* Fable and FarCry, the xbox 360 doesn't really have much going on for it.

And seriously, a year or two from now.. it just won't be able to compete with the PS3. In terms of graphics, I think the PS3 is just going to pull way ahead of the Xbox360. The PS3 is just a better designed system, simple as that. WiFi is pretty much a necessity now and blu ray will be the medium of the future.

I can just imagine all the 'add-ons' microsoft is gonna have to release on the xbox360 just to compete.

[caffman]

wifi isn't a necessity. I have a cat 6 wired house and even plug my PS3 into that than use the wifi

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

Only one good Jrpg...on ps3 and thats VC which is the best JRPG this gen

[Chrisy]

PS1 >>> PS2 >>> >>> >>>> 360 >>> DC >>> Xbox >>>> PS3

[karan8624]

Are you stupid or something?

[batmandarkknight]

yeeeea..... read his post first.

he didnt care about it being last place.

[Ps3fan1]

Sony been in the game for too many years to let MS domanate.

Quote from BIG

"been in the game for years it made me a animal its rule to the sh*t I wrote me a manual . A step by step booklet for you to get your game on track not your wig push back".

[free3sixty]

"kz2,uncharted series,mgs4,infamous,god of war3,Ico 3,yakuza 3,etc.... "

uncharted isnt a game that moves consoles.. its a game that you can get for 2USD at a video store to play 2 days.

MGS4? yeah.. the best game on PS3 so far.

infamous!? Prototype is more popular, cause its multi. IS will get better marketing.

God Of War 3.. yes.. its a big title for all ps owners.

ICO3?.. come on.. its a no name title that wont reach 500k.. i mean even KZ2 the most hyped game so far sold ONLY poor 1 million in 1st week.

Yakuza3... wont come out for the next 12 months in europe.. also, the movements are terrible.

STill, the PS3 has a VERY BAD merketing, thats why ppl dont buy it.

YOu talk about xbox360 and no exclusives.. just look on residnet evil 5 on the pS3. hell it sold more than KZ2.. LOL.. so kz2 is now a flop?

PPL really odnt care about exclusives. the casual consumer buys the MOST popular games.. FIFA, Need for speed, GTA, Resident Evil, Madden, Halo, Gears, COD.. this games will ALAWAYS SELL MILLIONS of copies.. dont care if its a 1.5 version.

SOny with all its exclusives dont moves consoles.

[cabalero]

And just because PS3 games don't sell to well they are worst than the competition?

I have both systems, and i really like Xbox360 exclusives. But c'mon, we all know that the PS3 exclusives has more quality than 360 exclusives.

From all the exclusives that 360 has the only ones that are really worth the money are Halo, Gears and Mass Effect and maybe Fable II (which i really like) (dunno if its still exclusive).
Bioshock has gone multi and so do Ninja Gaiden, and i will include DLC's because of L&D (in some way).

But PS3 has LBP, Killzone 2, Motorstorm, Resistance, MGS4, Heanvely Sword, Uncharted, Warhawk, Yakuza 3 and metioning only games that are already out.

I also have to say that the PS3 is the most equipped console on the market, it comes with every acessory you may need and that you have to buy for 360.

:D

[whatis]

The PS1 is still the best.

But i think that the PS3 might just be able to beat it if it can keep the excellent games coming.

[Ps3fan1]

Your right, Its just everything about the Ps3 seems next gen to me.

[loctite_zexel]

Well wired is still the way to go, but wireless is just a lot more convenient for most people.

Cat6 wired house?? Nice :)

Personally, I don't use the wifi tho.. I have cat5e jacks in all my rooms.

But still, for most people, wifi is definitely the most viable option.

[from the beach]

I'm pretty sure I've already read this article, except as a post in a thread on N4G.

[free3sixty]

Ps3 boys always say that NUMEBRS dont say something about the wuality of a game.. maybe thats true but NUMBERS also say what the consumer is interested in.

and a game like KZ2 which sold only 1 million on 1st week with a user base of 21 million is really poor. HAlo 3 sold 4 million when the xbox was at 16 million.

unacharted, r&C, hs, lair, haze, VC.. SURE, all greta titles with good quality.. but STILL.. all these game dont interest the casual sonsumer if i look on the sales..

resistance2.. 250k first week?.. so even PS3 owners dont buy it?
R&C? same
LAir.. i dont mention
HS.. same
Motorstorm.. 1 million.. yeah.. every bundle on release had this game..

The only title the PS3 is popular for RIGHT now is MGS4.. thats it.

I could bet 100USD that heavy rain will sell not more than 300k first week worldwide.. even if it gets 9x% metascore. Its just what i sa.y. the only think ps3 owners can talk about are their exclusives which sell very bad and the casual consumer is NOT interested in. Thats why the 360 will also sell 2time sbetter this year than the PS3. Same was last year.

[ShabzS]

are you serious about the resistance and kz2 first week sales? 250K??!?

[FPShooter]

I don't think is a good comparison to make with the sales of halo3 vs the sale of KZ2. simply because halo was already a well estlablished franchise and the first KILLZONE didn't do as good as sony had hoped.

What i'm trying to say is GG are restablishing their self with KZ2.
But the KILLZONE franchise has only one place to go and thats up.

can you honestly say the same for the Halo franchise?

[Nineball2112]

Yeah, the PS3 (imo) is the best console to date considering everything that you get with it. And (in my opinion) that includes the PS2.

[maspi]

In terms of power and long life cycle Yes!software and hardware's quality is the same. maybe is too expensive for the mass.but don't forget that ps3 has a BR player, wifi connection and 80giga HHD built in.Ps2 is still the King.But I'm confident that after a price cut Ps3 will have same numbers.

[Ps3fan1]

They forced MS to come out with the best games they had Like gears 1 and 2, Fable 2 and etc. When they knew for a fact that MS used almost every trick up in the book. "BAM" Now its time to show the world what we got.

Like I said they been in the game for years its kind of impossible for them to lose. Matter of fact the only lost they took was for the gamers like you and I . They sold their system from day 1 at a lose. What company does things like that unless they know its a win win situation

Thats why Im Ps3fan1

[FF7numbaone]

i think its great console to have if you can only afford one. Free online and very good exclusives made by sony. Its a very good looking console and its features make up for the cost.

[killzone2ownsallfps]

ps3>>>all consoles in the market....

[blodulv]

I've ever had personally, going all the way back to the original NES.

[Robearboy]

There is no such thing as the best console, each individual person has their own personal favorite, for me the best console ever has to be the original xbox (once i replaced the joypad), its the console that i had much for fun with and spend the most hours playing.

Of the current generation, at this moment in time i do prefer the x360 over the other two but that could be beacuse i have bought all of the multiplats for it and i personally have so far enjoyed the exclusives more, but end of the day it all depends on what floats your boat

[DelbertGrady]

The PS3 must be the best console ever. Especially since it's in third place. Proof of it's superiority right there!

[Why o why]

its called 'The Hare and the Tortoise'

[DelbertGrady]

By that logic the original Xbox should have won last gen.

[eagle21]

In Japan? NO
Europe? NO
America? YES

After 1 year headstart, PS3 is already better than 360. And will beat 360!

[DelbertGrady]

Pm me when that happens.

"The best console to date". In third place for more than 2 years even though it's predecessor has an install base of over 100 million. That's not good, that's epic failure. It's like they went out of their way to make it fail as much as possible. I can imagine Sony's marketing department thinking:

"Let's take this market window and well established brand and tarnish it as much as we can before we send it straight to hell."

The consumers decide what is "the best console to date", not journalists or fanboys. Value is subjective, and the majority of consumers tell us that they think the Wii and the 360 offers more value than the PS3. If they didn't they would choose the PS3 over the others. Simple as that. Then you can argue as much as you like that the consumers "don't get it" etc. Their choice is evident in worldwide sales.

[Why o why]

just imagine if sony had killed the support for the ps2 like MS did the xbox. Ps2 owners would have been forced to upgrade like you was. Its a win win for sony you're just to blind to see it.

[DelbertGrady]

"Ps2 owners would have been forced to upgrade like you was."

No they wouldn't. I could easily have switched to PS2 instead of getting a 360 if that was what I wanted.

The difference this gen is that the Wii is attracting the casual gamers, like the PS2 did last gen. Playstation has lost it's core crowd with the PS3.

[free3sixty]

yep, thats why its exclusive ssell like dog sh!t expect MGS4..

you talk all about exclusives so why dont you buy them?

I mean if sony must bundle every exclusive to reach on uncharted 1 Million sales after some months then i ask wtf ppl like the ps3 retards are doing here?

KZ2 after the biggets hype so far 1 million in 1 week?.. thats a FUKN FLOP! where is the rest of the 20 million ppl?

you say only that 360 owners have only multis.. haha.. selfowned.. RE5 on PS3 sold better than KZ2 on PS3.. LOOOOOL

Just get it.. you can have many exclusives but SOny lost ALL BIG ONES.. infamous? ICO? uncharted? R&C? Lair?.. hell.. all these games reached 1 Million after MONTHS + bundles.. thatsa shame!

Sure, the quality of the games can be good.. but this doesnt change the fact that the casual consumer is NOT interested in all these no name games.

the casual consumer wants: goo dprice for a console... HALO, GEARS, FIFA, NEED FOR SPEED, GTA, MADDEN, FINAL FANTASY, FABLE, BIOSHOCK.. just look an sales and you will see why the 360 is so popular.

[batmandarkknight]

your post is messy man.

anyways, games in a factor ARE important in game systems or else... why buy one? for movie purposes? weird...

anyways. everyone knows why those games flopped. MARKETING.
and still, sure the games dont sell well, but hey, the ps3 IS a few hundred thousands away from the 360 right? ;)

[dkgshiz]

PS3 owns everything. The only people that disagree are bots.

[free3sixty]

"The PS3 must be the best console ever. Especially since it's in third place. Proof of it's superiority right there! "

lol :D

[Mike134nl]

If they wouldn't have cut down on features like the backwards compatibility it definitely would.

Though it's true that everything included it is best console to date untill the next generation of consoles that is (not looking at sale numbers etc.).

[Ryuk]

The only thing the ps3 owns...is you droids minds. But of coarse ps3 tards think the ps3 is the best. That's what they're programmed to do

[free3sixty]

yes, thats why it was 5 million behind the 360 after its 1 year and now its 8 Million.. and PS3tards still say that the 360 is one year ahead.

if 360 will be at 10 million by the end of this year ps3 retards will also say that its 1 year ahead.. LOL.

you cant catch up.. thats why you will stay on 3rd place... the more exclusives sony brings out the less consoles ale in NA.. (50k right now = dead)

you say the 360 is dead in japan.. it sells 10-14k every week since 2 months.. but when the PS3 was at 10k and the 360 at 5k you said that 360 was dead.. so what was the PS3 if 360 has now PS3 sales!?

[batmandarkknight]

well. as far as i know. ps3 is down by 5mil. thats not bad at all. from where they were, and the whole 1 year delay. its safe to say they're catching up. and 09 will only strengthen it. with the likes of gt5 coming out(system seller) gow3(system seller) and uncharted 2 (possible system seller) its likely that the ps3 sales will only increase. note how im not being fanboy here. ;)

[bobdog626]

Halo/ Fable / Gear's /Mass Effect /Killer Instink and more do the trick for me but the biggest reason is the controllers for the 360.I Hate the PS3 controller's with a Passion.The two lower button's are unforgiveable.BluRay is nice but now a days they are attaching them to the Tv themself's so you dont need to buy one.The best console to date remain's to be seen.

[CYPHER82d]

That ill agree with for a part. Im no fan of the PS3 controller, but it isn't a completely legit reason to not want the ps3. I love the PS3 and 360 equally, their just too good to pass up. Blu-Ray does make a difference, the quality is easily a lot better due to the space. You don't need the blu-ray part of the ps3 for movies or whatever you mainly need it for games.

The ps3 while an all in one bundle in itself, was made to be played games on, extra stuff is nice and all but you buy the console for the games not the movies you can play on it.

[farsided]

EPIC FAIL. Let's keep it about the games people...not about who's got a bigger wang.

[ShabzS]

the article guy said the previous xbox was crap? ... the original xbox was a monster .. forget sales and numbers for a minute... the previous xbox ran games like doom 3 far cry and hl2 ...ech... anyways this gen is exactly like last gen only difference is that the 360 has taken the role of ps2 and ps3 has taken the role of original xbox.... a well marketed user friendly console(360) vs a undersold and frankly under appreciated console with much better hardware(Ps3)... only difference here between ps3 and the 1st xbox is ps3 came out the trenches with a lot of respectable exclusive line up thanks to a successful run with the ps2... ps 3 has a lot of franchises thanks to the psone and ps2 to help it carry over for the next gens... they are more experienced and reliable... and they know wat the people want... xbox is still searching for more franchises other than fable halo and gears once it has more franchises it can put up a better fight... this is still there second gen .. hell there first gen to gaming hadnt even started properly before it ended... but still they're on the ps2 phase of things... but they've made long strides since then.... anyways in pure hardware basis ps3 has this gen in the bag... anyone got any thoughts?

[CYPHER82d]

Ill agree about the franchises part. I commend you on the analysis.
Im not as confident about hardware though, because while generally the ps3 is superior in space, the 360 does match it in graphics processing and cpu (to some extent on the cpu).

Graphics wise you'll notice the main difference is mainly in motion blur, and colour/brightness. Look at RE5. Its definitely darker and brighter in some spots, with a few blurs here and there done better on either one. Its a question of how to use the space and hardware on the current that does make a difference (aside from space)

note: I mean for multi-plat. the real difference is in exclusive of course but then again, it boils down to proper usage

[ShabzS]

''generally the ps3 is superior in space, the 360 does match it in graphics processing and cpu (to some extent on the cpu)''

.... to an extent yes ... but this gen is gonna be boiled down to space in the end... the bigger, the larger and more massive the games are the better they are going to be... for years gamers have been runnning in hall ways and narrow streets... and then comes a game like far cry and blows everyones mind... then you see the trend that is elder scrols, fall out 3, far cry 2, gta 4... games like these are being given the push to make them even bigger, broader and to accomplish these games requires space, this is where the 360 gets limited, but its not much of a worry coz big game manufactures will push for muliplats and make the games work on 360 and ps3 regardless of space they will find a way to earn the profit of multiplats... and like you said the real difference will be seen in exclusives, more importantly ps3 exclusives really utilizing that extra space... any thoughts

[XtreemGamer]

Look at these jealous xbots xD
You can say X360 is the best of course.. but what about KZ2,Uncharted 2,GoW3,Heavy Rain,inFamous etc... the X360 have games with graphics like these games? No.. because it's an outdated console.

[bigboss911]

Ps3 is like a Porsche. Porsche sells less than its competion. But its still the best. No one has ever beaten the 956 type b record at nurburgring. Not even racing motorcycles or the overated Veyron can keep up with that thing. Just look up the offical track times, it is stupid fast. Coming from someone who has a Porsche, they are the best. 911gt2=Cell lol. btw yes i have a Porsche, its a 1978 911sc. Everyone thought i was lying when i told them about it at school. They ate those words. Just like the media ate them when Kz2 actually looked that good.

[4cough]

More like the most overhyped & underachieving console to date, LoL thPS3 with never go down in history as a great console.

[KingKionic]

wow there alot of people who own ps3s here.but i enjoy the xbox 360 alot. but as for ps3 i cant say its the best nor xbox 360. they both have there levels to climb.

[Ashriel]

Since it includes the PS2 I say it is. I still prefer the PS2 library over the PS3's, but that might change in the future.

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

I miss something about playstation that they did somethring groundbreaking or huge or fixed psn orsold a ton of games latley? Last time I checked it took forever to do anything on that system and mine still sits here and eats dust. Only fun I ever had with it was mgs and warhawk.

[Etseix]

my bubbles are in the red line if i comment sumething about this article :P

o well .. for me PS3 is the best console in here anyway, i bought an xbox360 it got RROD-ed, then i hate it. end of story -.-
....... bet ill get flamed for this in less 10 min lol.

[Etseix]

well i got disagreed on 30 min not 10, . lol

[Ldubbz]

The bait is just dangling there...do I bite?

Nah....

[karan8624]

PS3 is the best console.... what else is new?
I bought a PS3 because I know this, and so did the other people who bought one. This article is good for us and other potential buyers... but there's still so many closed minded people who cant accept it

[bunnywithgun]

PS3, the best console to date? Hell No

[ForROME]

You know I have an old Next Gen Mag from 195,

It has the PS1 before it launched and other consoles and its rates )them, pc 3do, jaguar, M2 playstation sega sat etc (for those pimps who remember that M2 RIP).

PS1- Future Prognosis- 5 Stars BRIGHT, why?

Easy to Program for
Nice Hardware Design
Full Fledge 3rd Part Support
Great Marketing

PS3
Easy to program for= No
Nice Hardware Design= Yes
Full Fledge 3rd Party Support= Debateble
Great Marketing= Absolutely Not

My point, Sony lost what they are at the core, devs loved them, system was sleek and small and marketing whipped a$$, Im dissapointed they have lost their way, however PS1 is my alltime fav system, I would like to see them get back to the basics

[Rhezin]

because all xbox owners are douchebags, like poser Nelson M.

[KingKionic]

more direct bias comments...its a system none the less. stop acting like it isnt a good system.

[creatchee]

No.

The PS2 was the best. It had the biggest variety of games that I would consider as truly great (even for their time).

The PS3 has a lot to live up to - the potential is there, but the realization is not yet (and I stress yet).

[ForROME]

No, the PS2 was only supported as much as it was because of the PS1 culture.

Had Xbox and Gamecube came out and competed earlier, Programmers wouldnt have been so ok with the PS2 machine style and programming, PS1 layed the path to promise there would be a mega install base.

[celldomceen1]

all i know is the ps3 is my favorite console right now. i couldnt care less about the past at this point i dont play the past.

[Jay Jay]

I'm lucky to have never be drawn into any console argument because I've alway's owned every system. Which completely expells me from fanboyism.

I find myself in a strange situatuion where I normally buy cross platform games for the 360, to be honest I prefer online gaming on the 360 but I prefer the PS3 as an all round machine. Hey at least it works properly, Don't worry I haven't forgot about the PS2's problems when it first came out but the constant problems with the 360 make me want to grab Bill Gates ripoff his head then $hit down his throat.

Seriously how can anyone stick up for the 360 with all the problems it's had and say it's better. You wouldn't buy a car only for the wheels to fall off when pulling out the showrooms, this day and age this type of failure is just unaceptable.

[ForROME]

I feel the same way, its like blind love has made people dimiss the junk hardware only to follow , I was one of them , 3 times

at what point do you say, ok something just isnt right here, peace

PS3 is a better all arounnd machine, Xbox online is much better imo

So what ya gonna do, I tell ya

[celldomceen1]

you get both and hope that the 360 doesnt die on you. I was lucky that i only had one 360 quit on me since i bought it at launch. the thing that i can not understand is how people cant see the value in both consoles.

[Andras84]

PS3 is the best console so far!!

[mintaro]

Hardware wise, absolutely.

Software wise, not even close.

[NateDPG]

PWNED

[dylandurden]

Hell yes :D

[felidae]

not really!

[get2sammyb]

.blogspot?

[Half-Mafia]

i diidnt know the 360 elite was the same price as a PS3 in the US. what idiot would buy a elite over a PS3.

also i just looked on the GAME website and found out how much we get ripped off in the UK.

Xbox 360 Elite = £230
PS3 80GB = £300

WTF

how comes we have to pay £70 more for a PS3 and in the US its the same.

pisses me off

[KingKionic]

thats a interesting question we should ask sony. im going to right now.