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“To call this game a failure before it’s even out is wild to me” -a former Firewalk dev

"I commend them for taking a chance."

Kaii15d ago

Title should've said *Concord Dev
The game that cost $400m & Sony wanted you to pay for it & was live service, hero shooters are one thing which was copied from OW but I really*3 can't see players enjoying extraction shooters where once ya dead you've lost your entire loadout, it's a very different steaks type of game.

1nsomniac13d ago

It works for Delta Force and it’s actually a far better experience for it. Makes the game actually mean something, like games used to make you feel back in the day. Makes the battles more intense.

Notellin13d ago

I'll take a ribeye for my steak, please.

Michiel198913d ago (Edited 13d ago )

you're dead wrong. in moba's you lose your whole loadout after every game, in dayz, tarkov and in roguelikes no one has an issue with it.. Sure it might not be your cup of tea, but stop acting like it doesn't work in any game. So many games have a mechanic that you need to start from scratch each death or new game and it works totally fine.

oh yeah not to mention fortnite, one of the most popular games on the planet, played by millions each day.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Yep. As long as its fun why complain. Helldivers was a perfect example.

porkChop13d ago

Helldivers 2 isn't an extraction shooter though. You extract, yeah, but it's missing some key things. There's no pvp/pvpve, and when you die you don't lose your stratagems or your equipment or your upgrades. It doesn't have the high risk/high reward element that extraction shooters are known for.

-Foxtrot15d ago

Is this guy for real?

"I commend them for taking a chance, trying something foreign to them"

It isn't that foreign, it's a first person live service online shooter which is exactly what Destiny was, the only difference is that it's an extraction based game.

"But to call this game a failure before it’s even out is wild to me."

Or maybe we've had 10, if not more, years of this kind of s**t were we start to see a pattern. Why risk giving them your hard earned money especially in this kind of economy when you have a gut wrenching feeling how it's going to turn out.

Bungie could have revived Marathon and made a remake of the original or a Doom 2016 styled sequel but they instead chose to do more live service slop.

S2Killinit13d ago

Are there any successful extraction multiplayer games?

shadowfax3313d ago

Escape From Tarkov and Hunt: Showdown 1896

abstractel13d ago

Add Helldivers 2 and Warzone to @Shadowfax33's list. Delta Force is doing well as well. They aren't my cup of tea but plenty of people do like them and I'll play them with friends who like them more than me. Out of the bunch I've probably enjoyed Helldivers 2 the most.

abstractel13d ago

He's not saying you should buy it, he's saying you shouldn't judge a game based on first trailers. I dislike when people shit on a game before it comes out. Once it's out and it's in the hands of reviewers and other content creators and you can see that you won't like it, then go for judging it if you feel the need to. Like this guy, I just don't see the point in shitting on a game prematurely.

bionicstar13d ago

Games are judged based on trailers all the time. E3 was the perfect example of gamers judgement, games were judged based solely on trailers and gameplay.

-Foxtrot13d ago

There’s been a lot of trailers I’ve seen that I’ve thought “this is going to be bad” and 9 times out of 10 they are

There’s literally one game this entire generation which I thought was going to be terrible from the first trailer but turned out good and that was Silent Hill 2.

You can judge from the first trailer if you know how it’s most likely going to go. We all act like we’ve never seen this kind of stuff before and yet we have, dozens of times.

If games were not meant to be judged first impression wise from trailers then what’s the point of them.

I just find it funny if a games trailer looks great it’s acceptable to state it but for some reason saying it’s bad is frowned upon.

Michiel198913d ago

90% on here automatically says a game, dev and publisher sucks if they don't make a single player game. It's honestly just so petty. It's really starting to become a bitter boomer fest over here, not your type of game? bad! Not singleplayer? Bad! everything is bad except if the game is specifically tailored to their taste. It's just an echochamber at this point.

DefenderOfDoom213d ago

When I first heard there was a new Marathon game , I thought like many other people that Marathon game was going to be a single player campaign. But my excitement went away once I found out Marathon is a extraction multi-player game .

Goodguy0115d ago

I don't care about small studios trend chasing but when well established studios like bungie try their hand at it, it usually just ends up biting them back in the end. Trend chase games should only be small projects, you ain't going to trample the top dog for very long until there are good signs of it going downhill like overwatch, marvel rivals found a perfect time to release their game but it's not going to work 9/10 times.

Yui_Suzumiya13d ago

I'm concerned about Marathon as well. It would be one thing if they at least had a campaign attached to it.

Noskypeno13d ago

It would be like uncharted being rebooted in 10 years and being turned exclusively into a battle royale. Cool if it's just a side mode, but where's the story mode, the thing that put it on the map. Really should have looked at what id was doing and took inspiration from it.

SimpleDad14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

It only shows that this developer has no idea why his game Concord failed, and that's WILD to me.

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Marathon Hands-On Preview — A Day In The Life Of A Corpo Reclaimer | CGM

I can safely say that this latest Marathon reboot has the potential to be among the best of the genre.

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darthv7211h ago

So.... what's the over / under on this game also getting pulled shortly after release?

RaidenBlack10h ago

Arc Raiders is already getting better reception in the preview sessions than Marathon, anyways.

TOTSUKO6h ago

Idk why. Just got off ARC. Marathon has more hook. Arc gunplay is trash. There’s more reloading than shooting lol. It already has 3 different currencies & monetization trash on a play test.

Marathon has its shortcomings but the gunplay is superior. I actually went back to marathon lol

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An Early Warning Flag For Bungie’s ‘Marathon’ Prospects

Marathon playercounts don't matter at this point, but we can see a few things about short-term interest in the game that are a little concerning.

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Ex- Concord Dev in Defense of Marathon & Against "Lack of Compassion" & "Vitriol" Attached to Games

One former Concord dev defends Marathon and discusses the "vitriol" people have toward games in a statement shared with MP1st.

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Alos889d ago

Plenty of people are excited for Marathon- nobody was excited for Concord. That's the difference.

Kornholic9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Not really. It's quite rare to see excitement for Marathon in comment sections. The only place where I've seen positive rhetoric for Marathon is the game's subreddit.

TOTSUKO9d ago

The marathon discord jumped up around 300k on reveal. Which is like what, triple of what concord sold lmao

HyperMoused9d ago

Didnt he call anyone who didnt like his game talentless losers..yeah...vitriol

coolbeans9d ago

Hold on! He may have been on the same team, but that wasn't this developer's words. The guy who made the "talentless freaks" comment was Xavier Farrell. I don't know if Stephan Williams shared the same attitude, but I think it's fair to not hold that over his head.

thorstein9d ago

He's not wrong. There are talented, great devs who made games then quit because of online vitriol from a tiny group of shitstirrers.

Wow, you hate a game you couldn't possibly have played yet. Or you hate a game that you couldn't possibly have played. How original.

Normal people (because you never hear from them) when they don't like a game, don't care and move on. They don't waste their time talking shit about it.

And the people who do just search for people they want to agree with their bias.

Lightning779d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"There are talented, great devs who made games then quit because of online vitriol from a tiny group of shitstirrers."

I dunno about Tiny group of ppl. Hell ppl online made it collectively known they didn't want Concord.

If you were speaking as early as last gen. Yeah you could say it was a handful of small ppl online that talk down on certain games but ultimately had no impact on the games sales. Look at Destiny IP. Ppl Talk so much crap about that game post launch and the game still sold like crazy. Same with 2. These days there's a collective whole of ppl who are trying to tear down games by using platforms and followers to do it. Grummz is a perfect example of someone who has been terrorizing the game industry with his rhetoric of "anti-wokeness" and he's been doing this most of this gen along with his retarded followers. Doesn't matter the game he'll go after it if it doesn't fit his agenda and world. he's hurt this industry with fake outrage that spreads like a disease. It's definitely not a tiny amount of ppl anymore it's annoying movement that's hurting this industry. If a game doesn't get announced perfectly 10 outta 10 the with no "agendas" then "fans" will destroy said game.

Eonjay8d ago

Grummz is a scam artist and part of his thing is using anti-workness as a sheild to block out the criticism he has rightfully earned.

Rancegamerx8d ago

What does compassion have to do with this? This person needs to realize he’s not living in some fantasy world. This is the real world, and he was involved in a massive failure. No one is obligated to offer compassion for failure just to make others feel better about themselves. The so-called vitriol comes from deeply frustrated people who are tired of the industry producing low-quality content and then blaming gamers instead of the creators. It’s ridiculous.

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