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The Xbox-PlayStation Exclusive Merger: To Trade, Or Not To Trade

Jawad from eXputer says, "Xbox's decision to share its exclusive titles with PlayStation marks a major change in the gaming industry, in a good way."

Hofstaderman52d ago

No it isnt in a good way. Lets not pretend XBOX chose this please. Years of mismanagement led to this.

Petebloodyonion52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

So I guess Xbox's mismanagement led to PC gaming now having decent games since MS started to care about Windows and forced Sony to do so too.
Care to also elaborate on how gaming is worse now since PC gaming is again relevant?

Hofstaderman52d ago

We talking about XBOX here. The console not XBOX as a service. But very soon XBOX will likely only be a service in any case. Toodles, I'm off to play Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth now.

S2Killinit52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Not sure why its relevant. PC technically does not compete with consoles. You dont really lose anything in terms of competition. But consoles not having any exclusives = no competition = less quality.

Ps: I wouldnt think xbox on PC has revolutionized PC. More like a drop in a bucket.

Pedantic9152d ago

Are you implying PC games weren't good until MS/XBOX started putting their games there ? Are we ignoring every game that was available on the PC before they started to give a sh** ?

blacktiger52d ago

Linux says HI enters by Valve and Steam Platform that doesn't depend on windows anymore.

rlow152d ago

@S2Killinit
“PC technically does not compete with consoles. You dont really lose anything in terms of competition.”

I disagree, Sony lost a value of 10 billion as a company because they forecasted 2 million less in sales of the PS5. My point, PC has an impact and people are buying. To say the market doesn’t compete is to ignore the blending of both markets. The fact that Sony put games on the pc started the shift. Now the first title from Sony to go day and date (helldivers2) has moved the needle even farther towards this blend. With a new ceo I feel more change is coming. The margins for tripple A games has thinned significantly and profits have to come from somewhere and I see a future where more day and date for the pc increasing.

Hopefully I’m wrong, but the firing of so many industry workers speaks volumes that times are changing.

Crows9052d ago

Im sorry...PC gaming has been relevant since before xbox was a brand.

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anast51d ago

No forcing there. Sony chose when and how in both PC and Xbox. It wasn't the other way around.

StoneTitan51d ago

pc gaming always had decent games, what are you talking about :D

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Ironmike52d ago

Xbox is ahead of the game in this mark my words sony fowolling is proof this it makes sense for both parties oh and final fantasy rebirth is only a timed exclusive it's coming to pc

BehindTheRows52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Sony isn't following anything. One puts there games on another platform from day 1. All of them. The other still has plenty of titles that have yet to come to PC.

Totally different strategies. Only one of them has worked. That's why Xbox games are coming to Nintendo and PlayStation platforms.

tehpees352d ago

BehindTheRows

I’ll say what I said before.

Microsoft made instant acknowledgement that their exclusives were cross gen at the start of Series life. Sony had cross gen PS5 games but tried to cover it up. They started releasing on PC because they saw Microsoft doing it. Then they released certain games day 1 in certain cases.

They are SAYING AND DOING the SAME THINGS as MS in every case. This won’t be the exception. If you think they aren’t watching how people react to buying their exclusives on PlayStation you’re mistaken. They are watching it as well because there is actually a possibility the world might accept playing competing exclusives while a hardware brand still exists. If you think they aren’t toying with the idea of releasing their games on Xbox that’s why you don’t work for Sony

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ChasterMies51d ago

Mostly one year, 2013. Don’t know how Don Mattrick was employable after this.

Petebloodyonion52d ago

I fail to see why ppl are mad about this like they are losing something because other gets to enjoy the same game.
Like honestly do you go hate on Google because they are releasing their apps on iPhones?
Did Google Android OS become irrelevant?
And likewise with the iPhone?

It reminds me of when Playstation fanboys were against crossplay with other consoles because they believed that losers (owners of other brands) should just be forced to buy a PlayStation.
Yet tks to Crossplay some small games like Evil Dead, Texas Chainsaw, etc are still playable today.

GamerRN52d ago

You are comparing operating systems to consoles, and not many people buy a console because of it's operating system.

Petebloodyonion52d ago

So why do you pick an iPhone over an Android since there's no big exclusive?
Same thing here why would Playstation or Xbox collapse if you could play their games on other systems?
Last I checked a console was made to play games and a smartphone was made to use apps
And it's not like ppl who own a Xbox will suddenly have their friend on PSN and vice versa.

GamerRN52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Because cellphones you buy based on the operating system. Consoles you buy for the games. No one cares that much about the console UI. We want a good interface, but that's it.

If cellphones were only about the apps, Apple wouldn't exist in the cellphone space anymore

Crows9052d ago

@pete

People that pick iphone over android are pretty ignorant...so yeah not a good comparison...unless you love being robbed.

outsider162452d ago

"It reminds me of when Playstation fanboys were against crossplay with other consoles because they believed that losers (owners of other brands) should just be forced to buy a PlayStation."
When did you start playing games?maybe research who refused first over crossplay. Ill give you a hint - when microsoft were leading.

Profchaos52d ago

there's a element of well why did I buy this because I could have brought the ps5 and played both

MIDGETonSTILTS1752d ago

If you remove the pressure from M$ to make cutting-edge AAA games by giving them Sony games instead, then you remove the pressure from Sony as well to make AAA games to stay competitive.

A lowered bar for M$ means a lowered bar for all console makers. I want Sony’s bar kept high so they don’t stop making $350 million games like Spider-Man 2.

Keep taking risks for the art form, you fat cats.

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Asterphoenix52d ago

Well they are not getting the sales they want on Xbox and PC. So they have decided to port titles to other consoles there's nothing else to it.

Ironmike51d ago

U do realise that helldivers is selling more on pc I don't about other games sony will start releasing more games quicker to pc in fact they said that already what u all don't realise is its a bout money sony and xbox want max profits they don't care if they upset fan boys

gerbintosh51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Max profits would be to release the $70 must have game on console for a period of time and then when that well has run dry, tap the PC market. Like Sony is doing right now.

Helldiver's 2, while a good game, is not a $70 ($40) must have game and Sony probably thought it was going to bomb which it did, on console.

P_Bomb52d ago

“Corny? I know.”

A bit, lol. Lots of kumbaya, but if you want Halo that bad in 2024, the old ways still apply. I don’t see Hellblade 2 dropping on PS this year either.

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OzzY-waZZy51d ago

Literally no one wants Halo lol. Helldivers stole their lunch.

Sciurus_vulgaris52d ago

Microsoft making some, key word SOME of its games available on other platforms is being over blown. Then again, we live in an era we’re
journalists focuses on sensationalism and promoting drama, instead of analysis and professional reporting.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto1d 12h ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 6h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb198116h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein15h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 9h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle20h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188117h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio17h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7712h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga20h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv726h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218319h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga18h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan14h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit6h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2312h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7212h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple10122h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos22h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-12h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac21h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10121h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic19h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead12h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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An Update on This Year’s BlizzCon and Blizzard’s 2024 Live Events

Blizzard writes: "After careful consideration over the last year, we at Blizzard have made the decision not to hold BlizzCon in 2024. This decision was not made lightly as BlizzCon remains a very special event for all of us, and we know many of you look forward to it. While we’re approaching this year differently and as we have explored different event formats in the past, rest assured that we are just as excited as ever to bring BlizzCon back in future years."

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PRIMORDUS1d 7h ago

How about you not hold Blizzcon anymore period. You fucking POS company. I really hope Blizzard would just die.