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Microsoft doesn't need an Xbox Series X refresh - it needs more games

The recent leak of documents from the ongoing FTC vs Microsoft court case seems to have revealed Microsoft's plans for a diskless Xbox Series X refresh for launch in 2024.

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Hofstaderman254d ago (Edited 254d ago )

That about sums it up. That, and new leadership.

Obscure_Observer254d ago

"That about sums it up. That, and new leadership."

You´re out of luck, Phil Spencer is going nowhere.

After a slow start, Xbox is now packed with games and after his EPIC WIN over FTC and Sony by getting that ABK deal approved, you better get used to the idea that the day you´ll see Phil Spencer leaving Xbox, will be the first day of his retirement.

blacktiger254d ago

Naw, everything FTC has said is exactly happening. Anything and everything is reversible. To me I couldn't careless if it's monopoly or not. I'm 40 I don't buy Microsoft products not because of xbox but because of Microsoft practice from 90s

Hofstaderman254d ago (Edited 254d ago )

How can you possibly be OK with this circus? Do you not realize that you are cheerleading for the death knell of your beloved hobby? In three and a half years you got half baked halo with an obsolete roadmap, Redfall, and the admittedly decent Starfield. That's it. How can you possibly be happy with that?

Soulsborne254d ago

I cant hear anything over the muffled sound of philly boys nuts in your mouth.

343_Guilty_Spark254d ago

Xbox games are here and all anyone talks about is Starfield a game people will play for the next 7-10 years.

The other vocal minority continue to whine and complain about various things because they hate Xbox has platform exclusives.

“I’ll just play on PC”

Ok do just that

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S2Killinit254d ago (Edited 254d ago )

Also, They CAN’T have a updated series X because they have too many different consoles already.

Hofstaderman254d ago

Never say never to the stupidity of MS and their nonsensical naming conventions.

JackBNimble254d ago

Gamers say that as if Sony has a great list of exclusives this generation which really isn't true.

There are a handful of exclusives on ps5 and I personally will never buy what is available at the moment.

Sony and MS both need to do better because so far 3rd party games seem to be better then 1st party exclusives this gen.

darthv72254d ago

i guess this writer has forgotten that practically every console goes through a refresh. How and when are decided upon by the market conditions, cost of production and availability of parts.

As for the games, I guess he also forgot that MS have been releasing games this year and have more coming over the next several as well.

mjchitown254d ago (Edited 254d ago )

you need a new brain . funny you dont say that about jim ryan

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ChiefofLoliPolice254d ago (Edited 254d ago )

Plus the all new "Brooklyn" Xbox Series X is all digital too?? Even if I was a hardcore Xbox fan that's a hard pass!

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ocelot07254d ago

Thing is it's not for everyone. But it should of been a option from the start. Not half way though the gen. They definitely should not of made the S instead this.

Just like Sony did. One digital one disc but same power. I have had a series s for nearly a year. But just did a trade with a friend for my series s and a switch lite for his newly won series X. Would of made the same trade if it was for this digital console.

Elda254d ago

Exactly. Start releasing a few original interesting must play AAA exclusives a year then think about releasing new hardware during the generation.

MrDead254d ago

They need to make games and stop limiting gamers access to multiplatform publishers

Obscure_Observer254d ago

"They need to make games and stop limiting gamers access to multiplatform publishers"

Your narrative is now dead on the water.

From next month till the end of 2024 there isn´t a single upcoming first party game that weren´t fully funded and developed by Xbox Game Studios.

Forza Motorsport
Towerborne
Flight Simulator 2024
Avowed
Hellblade II

You running out of arguments to downplay Xbox.

MrDead254d ago

Is this your first year gaming? Those games you listed where are almost all MS has this generation, they literally needed to buy up and ban multiplatform publishers to have any semi-exclusive content. All this happened because MS ignored their own platform for a generation and a half and it's sales died everywhere but the US. Now as punishment to consumers for not buying an Xbox gamers are losing access to entire publishers.

"You running out of arguments to downplay Xbox." Until MS stop banning multiplatform publishers from competing systems then Xbox and MS will always be a cancer and a leech to the industry and no one will ever be out of arguments.

Traecy254d ago

Nothing has a concrete release date that you listed except Forza. As an XBSX owner the only game that's interesting on your list to me is Hellblade 2 & there's still no release date nor has there been any recent gameplay footage about the game.

Obscure_Observer254d ago

@MrDead

"Until MS stop banning multiplatform publishers from competing systems then Xbox and MS will always be a cancer and a leech to the industry and no one will ever be out of arguments."

There´s not "systems", dude. Only Playstation got shafted and we all know that´s the only reason you´re losing sleep.

You try and pass as some neutral PC gamer but we know you´re not. You been trying to drag the PC community into some conspiracy bs to cover your bias towards Sony.

FTC´s leaked documents shows that MS´s plans is only to exclude Playstation from getting ports from new upcoming games by Bethesda. In NO moment Steam or Epic is mentioned.

So all of your FUD bs is nothing but hot air.

gold_drake254d ago

new games? are you serious?
that would make too much sense, it would be too logical.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

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ApocalypseShadow1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff218322h ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan20h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga19h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

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The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC20h ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

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@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop17h ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal23h ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto21h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman20h ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj22h ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble3h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo21h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

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smashman981d 3h ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk1d 1h ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer

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PlayStation VR2 Official PC Adapter by Sony Is Being Certified

An official PlayStation VR2 adapter for PC made by Sony is being certified. It won't be long before the VR headset is officially compatible.

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Profchaos1d 14h ago

one step closer to unlocking the headsets full power.

I'm extremely underwhelmed with how Sony has treated it's psvr2 customers seriously Nintendo treated it's Wii U owners of which the sales were probably equal in the headsets 2bd year v the consoles far better.

This is the least they could do

ravens521d 12h ago

I agree. I'm a day 1 consumer too. 😢 For my day 1 Vita. I do not like when Sony does that crap.

DarXyde19h ago

I still don't have PSVR2, but this was always my concern. I almost pulled the trigger for RE4, but I waited it out to see what changed. As it happens, not much.

I love my Vita. Great piece of hardware. It didn't shine the way we know it could have, but it'll still got amazing titles.

PC support is very much a step in the right direction. Even if some PC only titles can make use of the headset, it does increase PSVR adoption: it's a great piece of hardware and it's also the best in its price bracket, so I see a way forward for uptake. Who knows? Maybe that'll allow VR devs to feel more comfortable releasing on PS5.

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BlackOni1d 10h ago

Agreed, but to your point, those dollars went a lot further back then than they do now. This should have been a consideration from the beginning.

Imagine buying a monitor or tv that could only work with one device. That's basically what this equates to, so they left a LOT of money on the table by not making it PC compatible from the getgo. But to Sony's credit, even they were unaware of how popular their games would be once released on PC.

poppatron20h ago

No credit to Sony on this one I’m afraid, first party and generally Sony support for psvr2 really hasn’t been great

BlackOni11h ago

@poppatron yes, I wasn't implying the PSVR2 games became popular or well supported, only that Sony was considering the PC market an afterthought. I imagine more people will want to buy this when it works with PC. I know I will, as I play on both.

Babadook71d 7h ago

I doubt there will be foveated rendering implemented on PC. PSVR2 is already a better experience than PCVR. PS5 Pro will unlock the full power.

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Probably not but not all psvr2 games use fov many are just straight ports from quest systems which barely take advantage the headsets capabilities.

Still I'd rather have more options and games to play on this than a tiny LIbrary

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Sonic18811d 13h ago

It was just a matter of time

Neonridr1d 12h ago

so now Sony is going to sell me an adapter I have to buy so I can use the headset on my PC? Gee, how generous of you :P

While it's great that I will be able to use this headset instead of my Index or Q3 for PC only VR titles, it's still a sad realization that Sony is sorta waiving the white flag here. Here's hoping they at least make some of their PSVR2 exclusive content available on PC as well now.

ocelot071d 12h ago

I don't see it as waving the white flag. PSVR the first one even though modders did get it working on pc it was a awful experience.

PSVR2 one of the best VR headsets available. Requires just one usb c cable. Even though I truly believe exclusives are what sell consoles. When it comes to VR it's very nich among gamers. I'm ecstatic that soon I can imo use the best VR headset on both ps5 and pc. No need for a pc vr headset. I have said it since PSVR2 was announced that I hope they make it pc compatible. With it being a very expensive headset and pc vr being more popular it just makes sense for Sony to do this.

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Neonridr1d 10h ago

as opposed to a Quest 3 that requires no cables, or a single cable if you want to pair it with your PC right? ;)

While the tech is better in the PSVR2 for the most part (I own an Index, Q3 and PSVR2), I'm still let down by certain things. Headset rumble is a novelty. Eye tracking has only been used well on a couple of titles.

to each their own I guess, but to me this doesn't give me confidence that Sony is fully investing in their own hardware, more like they are stepping back to allow others to fill in the gaps.

ocelot071d 7h ago

@Neonridr not owned a quest 3. Did own a quest 1 and 2 both where fairly good. Have used a quest 3 for a limited time and thought it was fine. But comfort wise not as nice as psvr2.

Tried using quest 2 via wireless streaming to my pc and it was so bad I much rather using a single cable and have a solid connection than streaming the game from pc to headset.

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ocelot071d 12h ago

It's most likely just going to be a usb c to usb 3 adapter. Even for modern era a lot of new cases and motherboards don't have a usb c ports.

The budget but still fairly fairly high end pc I recently helped my friend build. He went with a b550 motherboard. Didn't have a usb c port or a on board socket to connect a pc case with a front panel usb c. Had to get a cheap pcie usb c.

1nsomniac1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

They developed the headset/attached usb c cable so that it wasn’t possible to run through any port other than a designated ps5 port. The adapter allows all the data to be passed correctly to a none designated ps5 port.

ocelot071d 9h ago

Oh right that's annoying.

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