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Can the FTC block Microsoft's ABK acquisition?

GamesIndustry.biz spoke to two legal experts, with Gamma Law managing partner David B. Hoppe observing that this complaint is in line with the FTC's "strategy of expanded antitrust enforcement."

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Sonyslave3487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

Lol if former FTC members whom are saying the current head is stupid and is going to lose in court badly because Khan objected is base off ideals and not facts.

shinoff2183487d ago

You got a link to the former Facebook members saying this? Don't forget they still got euro to worry about to.

Orchard487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

I'm assuming you meant the FTC and not Facebook :P

The former 'principal deputy assistant attorney general' of the DOJ, a guy who was behind the successful 1990's anti-trust case against MS was one of the ones who spoke out against bringing cases with little to no evidence:

https://straightarrownews.c...

Basically, she's hoping to lose cases in court so that congress will pass new legislation. Maybe that'll work longer term, I don't know, it could also just make her look bad at her job. Even the FTC staff reportedly didn't want to bring some of the cases that Khan has overridden them on and forced them to bring.

Either way, any legislation passed won't affect the Activision purchase since our government is crazy slow.

shinoff2183487d ago

I meant ftc I don't know why Facebook got put there lol

Orchard487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

I think the odds of MS abandoning this are near zero, if not zero. They seem all in on it, and rightfully so - the cost of going through court etc is non-zero, but its small for MS, and small compared to the gains they would make by having ABK under their belt.

Plus, the cost of going to court is likely less than paying Activision 3bn to cancel the deal.

Part of me thinks this will be settled before going to court via an agreement between the FTC & MS. I think MS believes they would win in court - but MS won't want to drag this out into 2024 (which is where it's going if it goes to the Fed court, and potentially the Supreme Court), similarly the FTC knows their case is weak/would lose - so realistically, neither side wants this to really go to court.

shinoff2183487d ago

Things don't get taken to courts by government employees most of the time if they think they will lose. Ms shouldn't be able to strong arm the industry like this.

Ms currently has more studios then sony. More money then sony. Why do they need to buy Activision(a publishers who sold more games on sonys system by the way)?

Ms has enough resources right now without acti but they can't get their sh together. Some of yall might not remember but there was a joke years ago Ms is where studios go to die. Alot have under Ms.

Orchard487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

"Things don't get taken to courts by government employees most of the time if they think they will lose."

That just isn't true though. The US govt and it's agencies lose cases against companies and individuals all the time. Especially the FTC, the FTC has a terrible track record in court, they've even lost to MS in the past.

The problem for the FTC is, most of their 'wins' occur when the company abandons the acquisition, and MS doesn't seem set to do that. In the recent times of the Biden / Khan administration, they are 4 for 4 on court losses - because courts follow the law as written, not anti-merger activism.

What we think about MS's ability to manage studios, or how many studios they currently have is irrelevant really though. Activision wanted to sell-up, MS met the asking price and we are where we are now / this is happening.

wiz7191486d ago

@Shin Studios died under Sony as well , just because they make good single players games doesn’t mean they are exempt to BS .. I also understand if your to young to have been gaining since the 90’s ..

dcbronco486d ago

Studios died at Microsoft because they didn't have a cohesive goal with gaming. You had people all over the place on direction. Now they have a ceo completely committed to gaming and that understands the tech developed for gaming has other applications.

Godmars290486d ago

@wiz7191:
So Sony closing one studio while releasing several well regarded titles from other studios is the exact same as MS closing several studios with not one game, or badly regarded one, to show for it?

Really?

@dcbronco:
MS does have a goals or ideas for the types of games they want. Thing is said goals are narrow minded. Leans towards online multiplayer/always online/subscription with negative impact on creativity.

wiz7191485d ago

@godmars LMAO you want to know what ironic , Sony closed just as many studios Microsoft has .. Stuios change names or get absorbed into larger studios.

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Sonyslave3487d ago

Not only that but Activison is ready to fight to the end of earth for this deal.

shinoff2183487d ago

Of course acti is cause the dude leading it is getting paiiiiiidddddd. And is a huge liability. Still shouldn't be able to buy one of the largest publishers out there if not the largest.

SeTTriP486d ago

@wiz7191 your telling half truths Sony closed studios after they were giving chance to make a come back but failed like zipperhead.

Sony is a business after all and not a charity.

Ms just buys studios to let them die.rare was the naughty dog of the 90 and what did Ms do with them?

TheColbertinator487d ago

Deal going through in 3...2...1...

SullysCigar486d ago

Lol do try to keep up. It's not even scheduled to go conclude for months and that was without the FTC wading in, which will delay the outcome further.

Flakegriffin486d ago

If I’m not mistaken it’s scheduled to conclude in August 2023, without FTC wading in.

Crows90486d ago

Still waiting....oh that's Ms tagline

Flawlessmic487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

I know xbox only fans want this deal to go through, I mean he'll I'm not adverse to it if it means all blizzard and Activision games go on gp, saves me a ton of money.

But consider that if it does go through, sony will more than likely end up buying square and capcom and makes all there ips exclusive.

Outside of console warring and being able to say xbox is the biggest brand now and brings the most revenue or whatever.

Is it worth losing all of squares capcoms ips just to gain cod and diablo and bragging rights?

No skin of my back however this all pans put I have all 3 consoles, just don't think xbox guys are thinking this through.

You will likely end up losing a lot more great games than ur actually gaining.

Redemption-64487d ago

Microsoft needs Xbox + Bethesda + Activision to match Sony, and the sad thing is, Sony seems to be able to actually do more with less studios. In the event that Sony's goes after Square/Capcom, it will be extremely difficult for MS to catch up to Sony, unless they decide to buy another publisher, but at that point regulators will more than likely kill the deal

Flawlessmic487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

Well that's my point precisely, if this deals goes through you can basically book Sony buying square, and I'd say capcom will follow certainly to match what Ms has done.

Which if that happens Microsoft's ends up right where it was before the merger, sure it's gained a ton in revenue but in terms of great games there not gaining a lot, but what they will lose is massive.

Final fantasy although this one is already the case mostly
Dragon quest
Kingdom hearts
Devil may cry
Resident evil
Steet fighter
Monster hunter
Dragons dogma

I'm sure there's a lot I'm missing that's just off the top of my head.

Where as the big gains for acti would be diablo and cod.

Wow is not so much a benefit for us console gamers, I grew up on crash bandicoot but it's not a needle mover, neither is Spyro and I love both those series

If I only owned an xbox I would not want acti at the risk of losing those games.

HardKnockKid24486d ago

Then that would make Sony……. Hypocrites?

NotoriousWhiz486d ago

I mean with all that money, why can't they just give Activision a few billion instead of 70 and have a good chunk of their games on game pass anyway?

NotoriousWhiz486d ago

^ It wouldn't make Sony hypocrites. They'd be fighting fire with fire.

Redemption-64486d ago

@Orchard

Seriously, your level of ignorance and inability to understand basic reading comprehension is amazing. Seriously what has Sony said that has disapproved the facts I provided from Activision's 2021 financial reports? Exactly 0. Sony not liking this deal doesn't in any way shape or form negate how much Activision makes from Playstation

Also, my math is off, I just shows you are not very good at accepting reality. The numbers I gave you, about how much Activision makes us literally from their own 2021 annual reports, so since you clearly know more than them, why not call them and tell them their math is off?

Sony's PlayStation platform made nearly $7.6 billion from microtransactions, expansions, DLC, and in-game content in FY21. This is literally for every thing. COD, Fortnite and Apex being the highest contributors doesn't change the fact that, Activision made $1.3B the same year from Playstation. Last year Playstation made around $24B, care to guess how much of that came from Activision? Am sure you will love the answer.

Also, can I Seriously recommend you take some basic reading comprehension classes? Never said Capcom and or Square are close to COD. Please learn to read. I said their impact, if they were to ever be acquired by Sony, would have a bigger impact than COD, especially if MS decided to make COD exclusive. Anyone with a single brain cell in this community knows Xbox as a platform has been struggling for well over a decade to get more Japanese games and are seriously lacking behind. Capcom, Square, Bandai Namco and Sega, are some of the few Japanese companies that release some of their games on Xbox, now imagine losing two of those. Imagine struggling in a market and then end up losing major publishers from said market?

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Orchard487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

Would they really be losing much though?

Square are basically Sony exclusive at this point anyway.

Capcom only has a handful of games that release very sporadically, and some not even on Xbox (and they would still come to PC anyway).

And realistically, from a business perspective, COD is bigger than every Square and Capcom game combined.

You’re also assuming that Square and Capcom want to be bought.

Flawlessmic487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

Like I literally said in my first post forget revenue and profits I made that clear buying acti will literally take Ms from last to first.

I more than understand the business side of it.

I'm talking from a gamers perspective particularly the people on this website as I would consider us hard-core gamers if your here.

For casuals yes cod is great, but for proper gamers like us are you telling me you would prefer to have cod, diablo and warcraft over the titles I mentioned?

Most hardcore gamers who don't care about cod would certainly see my point and would prefer the games I listed.

And yes I already acknowledged ff was basically already exclusive at this point.

Square 100% will want to be bought out, capcom maybe not as much but if aony comes knocking why refuse, its a japanese company that they uave long history with, it would basically be business as usual.

Orchard487d ago

That’s a hard call to make but I do think I would go with COD.

I play cod for tons of hours every year, and it’s mostly good releases (with a few misfires like Vanguard).

Square and Capcom on the other hand have very sporadic releases and can be very hit and miss.

But if Sony were to make Square/Capcom games exclusive, MS could go nuclear and make COD exclusive which would financially devastate PS and ultimately affect all aspects of PS including the quality of exclusives and therefore affect gamers. So the business side does matter.

Tbh though, the way forward seems to be PC. PC gamers are finally winning and getting basically everything while Sony and MS fight to take games away from each others consoles.

Flawlessmic487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

Ur gaming tastes isnt that great then orchard, not sure if you mean that or if that's your constant pro xbox coming out that you will just go with whatever Ms is doing and say that the best and you agree, I'm sure it's the latter.

As a side note I play plenty of cod with my friends but if I had to choose a standard fps over all those brilliant games I listed then it's an easy choice for me.

Ms won't make cod exclusive not immediately anyway even if Sony does buy capcom and square make all there ips exclusive.

Majority of cod players are on playstation, that's just bad business, where Sony and Ms will come to an agreement is Sony will give Ms bungies new shooter while cod remains on ps.

In the end xbox gamers lose out massively, one generic shooter that releases yearly and is the same game compared to 10 + highly valued and critical games.

Sony will be fine without cod money, obviously they'd prefer to to lose 100s of millions in easy cash but it's exactly that just a few 100 million, nothing Sony can't handle, once bumgies release there new game they will be making more from that or even destiny 2 at this point.

Main point is for the hardcore xbox gamer, I don't think this will end well and I don't think half of you see the repercussions that will come with it.

Agreed pc will be the big winner in all of this in a few years.

Orchard487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

I mainly game on PS5 so 🤷

I normally do get COD on PC though for mouse and kb - although this year I ended up with it on PS too (long story).

What got me to that decision was simple - I play COD every year, for a lot of hours. The other games you listed are few and far between so realistically if I had to pick I’d go with the ones that give me the most hours of entertainment.

It would be more likely billions than hundreds of millions though - PS makes about 8bn in MTX per year and a lot of that comes from Fortnite and Warzone.

That’s also excluding the actual sales of the game itself.

You could indeed see MS and Sony reach a deal, but that deal would need to be more than COD for Destiny/a Bungie game lol. Those aren’t even remotely equal in value.

“ once bumgies release there new game they will be making more from that or even destiny 2 at this point. ”

Sorry, but that just isn’t realistic. Destiny doesn’t make anywhere close to the annual revenue of COD.

Bungies annual revenue (including games, MTX and merchandise etc) is around 200m. COD MW2 made 800m in the first 3 days - in sales alone, excluding MTX and season passes etc.

Even in an off year where Vanguard sucked, it still made 3bn dollars.

Flawlessmic487d ago

As do I, ps5 is my primary ,not sure I believe that from you though lol. like I said it's no skin of my back how it all shakes out, I have all 3 consoles and will always likely be a multi console owner.

I'm looking at this strictly from an xbox only player perspective especially as they are the ones that are desperate for it to go through.

I'm just trying to point out as gamers they will likely lose more than they gain without realising that now.

U are treating cod like a 1st party Sony game and sony gets all the profits, that's not the case at all.

Hence a new bungie title where all the proceeds would go to to Sony would make them more money than the $ they get from cod as I understand destiny has raked in billions each yr.

So really they have the devs to compensate for the loss, I'm talking about Sony's side of the revenue not cod total value as obviously cod is bigger but Sony don't get all that cash they get a % of there cut and that's it.

To boil it down from a xbox only perspective would you really want acti at the risk of losing the others? Pretend u don't have a ps5 or pc and ur at risk of losing those game.

Redemption-64487d ago

I really don't think you understand the impact of Capcom and Square being bought by PS, if that was to ever happen. The impact will be far worse than CoD leaving PS. For 1 Activision makes far more on Playstation, say if MS ever decides to make it exclusive, the will lead to a major decline for COD, not just in popularity, but in sales as well. It will literally lead to less sales for COD. Capcom is one of the few major Japanese devs, that actually releases their top games on Xbox. MS has been struggling to get more Japanese devs to work and releas their games on Xbox, imagine losing two major Japanese devs. Sony would have a near major lock down of Japanese games

Redemption-64487d ago

@Orchard

Also, you seriously need to get your facts right:
The totals for 2021's revenues from customers, for example, were as follows:

Apple - $1.496 bn
Google - $1.496 bn
Sony - $1.320 bn
Microsoft - <$880 m
Total - $5,192 from top customers (does not include Nintendo, or retailers like Best Buy, Walmart, etc)
So we know that Activision made $1.320 billion from Sony in 2021. That's after the revenue split that Sony takes.

A bit of math reveals how much Sony kept. While it's likely Sony gives Activision-Blizzard a negotiated cut of revenues, let's just say that Sony applies the standard 70-30 split, with Sony keeping 30% of revenues.

That $1.3B Activision makes from Playstation is the combination of all Activision games on Playstation. COD is big for Activision, bit based on their financial reports, Sony doesn't even make that much from them compared to their revenue. They would rather not lose, even if it would not affect them.

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Orchard487d ago (Edited 487d ago )

@redemption Its laughable to say capcom or square are even close to COD or Activision. They are minnows by comparison.

How many people are willing to buy a $500 console for Capcom or Square games? Not many. COD on the other hand is a purchasing decision driver.

Also your revenue numbers are miles off, e.g. https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

And Sony disagrees with you - that’s why they’re fighting like hell to stop this acquisition and have made many official statements that directly contradict what you claim.

They also did nothing to stop the Zenimax acquisition and would likely do nothing to stop a Capcom/Square acquisition.

SoulWarrior486d ago (Edited 486d ago )

'I mainly game on PS5 so'

You honestly expect anyone to believe that with your cheerleading over this deal wanting to go through asap? Lmao.

Major X to doubt.

darkrider486d ago

Would they be losing much.. Square and Capcom... From the all the top news, yeah.

Both square and Capcom have a deep relationship with sony. It's their biggest buyer, so yeah. Being first party, making games for one console... Yeah.

Some here are just waiting the deal of activision get green light to start jumping around, when in reality Phil Spencer is about to put another huge nail on the coffin of Microsoft gaming division.

Buying publishers should never be allowed for the sake of competition. But Microsoft open that door...

thesoftware730486d ago

@Flaw

Are you being serious? you realized only as a Hardcore gamer would anyone even consider choosing SE and Capcom over A/B. That is the problem with your thinking, you guys live in this HC gaming landscape and ignore the vast majority of gaming and often preach your smaller personal feelings as fact.

How could you be flabbergasted that someone may choose A/B over SE and Capcom? Diablo, Overwatch, CoD, Crash Bandicoot, Guitar Heros, Tony Hawk, and World of Warcraft. Most of these games have mass appeal to hardcore and casual players alike. The S/E and Capcom games would mostly fall under a huge hardcore crowd.

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glennhkboy487d ago

Regardless of whether MS can successfully buying ABK or not, Square & Capcom is already prioritize Sony over everyone else (MS & Nintendo). All the latest Square & Capcom games are all Sony (time) exclusive for now. So the real question should be: can Sony live without CoD, Diablo, Overwatch, etc. if it does not soften its stand now?

tay8701486d ago

@orchard, I'm not for these huge aquisitions, bit id certainly trade square and capcom for Activision in a heartbeat. That's just me, I know there are millions of cod players, but I can't stand the game personally. Losing cod would be a huge hit, bit it wouldn't be devastating. They own bungie and haven and they have partnerships with other studios making shooters like firewallk and deviation games. Not to mention there are several other Sony studios working on multi-player games like guerilla, firesprite, London studios, and naughty dog. None of which will do numbers like cod, but will help fill the void. Sony has quite a few kick ass multi-player ips they could and should revive like resistance, killzone, Socom, twisted metal( in the works now), Warhawk, and MAG.

Elda486d ago

I agree. COD didn't make PS for what it is... nor will it break PS. PS is where it is based on its first-party games along with its historic library of games first & foremost. Nintendo is successful without COD & the same will be for PS. No shade...I think Sony just wants that COD money to keep flowing their way but without COD... as long as Sony's studios keep making great games & consoles...Sony will be fine.

Asplundh486d ago

Activision Blizzard is worth $59 billion
Capcom is worth $6.5 billion
Square Enix is worth $5.5 billion

In what world would Sony come out a head in that trade off situation? Even from a gamers perspective, way more gamers are interested in Activision Blizzard games.

thesoftware730486d ago

Exactly this.

The problem with some hardcore gamers is that they live in a bubble, like N4G or other gaming sites. They often fail to realize that the larger portion of gamers doesn't care about a game dropping 2fps on one console over the other.

It's only talking to a hardcore crowd would they tell you that having SE or Capcom would be better than having Activison/Blizzard.

1Victor486d ago

@asplun same as activision square and capcom are legacy developers of old with more successful franchises than activision with their yearly milking of C🤢D 🤷🏿

Asplundh486d ago

@1Victor
"with more successful franchises than activision"

You can make all the false claims that you want, the sales numbers don't lie.

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ken2813487d ago

We still talking about this???

FallenAngel1984487d ago

Cuz it’s not like this is the largest acquisition in the industry 😅

ActualEngineer486d ago (Edited 486d ago )

This acquisition will shape the industry for years to come because with the money Microsoft is spending, you could buy almost every other major console publisher TOGETHER. I mean EA, Ubisoft, Embresser, Square Enix and Take Two together....

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Square & Bandai Namco Being Honest About Quality Is A Step In The Right Direction

Saad from eXputer: "After suffering from massive financial hits, Square Enix & Bandai Namco appear to be turning over a new leaf but I'm still unconvinced."

Nerdmaster8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I was talking about games with some Japanese guys here in Japan, and it seems like around here Bandai Namco has a fame of making low-quality games, with the occasional gem.

About Square Enix, I believe they lack the capacity to improve. They should learn with Capcom (although even Capcom still makes some bad mistakes), but I don't think they ever will. They keep chasing whatever is new at the time (blockchain, AI...) to say "we innovate", without considering the public perception and if these things actually improve the games or not. Them releasing too many small games with no advertising also shows a lack of trust in its own products. Even with their biggest games, like turning FF into an action game with XVI and the very divisive plot changes regarding whispers and timelines in VII Remake, shows them trying to attract a new generation of gamers without understanding what made the series so big in the first place.

shinoff21837h ago

I want a true ff7 remake. With thatcsaid I'm way happier with 7 remake then I was with ff16. I'd still prefer turn based but square keep chasing these Lil kids

Snookies124h ago

Man, it is perfectly fine to prefer turn based. Turn based is amazing. But there's zero reason to call anyone who likes action games "lil kids". Liking one gameplay system over another does not make you more mature in any way.

VersusDMC7h ago

People love the new FF's overall...the problem is the abundance of 7's they release that lose money or make very little like diofield, star ocean divine force, Valkyrie asylum, harvestella, foam stars, etc. Advertising wouldn't have saved those games. Apparently Forespoken had a big Advertising budget but we saw how that went.

shinoff21836h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Star ocean divine force actually sold well from what I've read not ff type numbers but well enough. Was a dope game to.

FinalFantasyFanatic5h ago

Bandai Namco is going to Bandai Namco, I do believe that Square Enix can't change without changing the entire management, they've had these issues for more than a decade and haven't learnt, I have very little faith they can course correct. I'll still buy their better remasters/remakes like Star Ocean 2 though (not FF7R).

Asterphoenix3h ago

Namco is just milking the same Sword Art Online with lack of budget as well as anime IPs that don't go to decent developers like Jujutsu Kaisen and My Hero Academia. Namco deserves their losses and no future Dot Hack or Xenosaga remaster :(.

Square allocated lot of their budget on Forspoken was a mistake. Square always had management issues. Star Ocean 2 was a great remake and I found their recent entries of FF(16 and Rebirth) better than 13 and 15.
I think they were better than 360/PS3 generation where Square went really downhill.

CrimsonWing696h ago

I don’t know why NOW they decide on this, but I guess later is better than never.

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PlayStation x PUMA Collection Releases April 2024

PlayStation x PUMA orders open April 18, 2024, Priced between $100 - $120!

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Barlos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Well, they're ugly aren't they?

phoenixwing1d 12h ago

Isn't any better or worse than any other shoe. Most of them are made in sweat shops no matter what logo they have

Ironmike1d 22h ago

Playstation should have went with nike

JackBNimble1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I'd be embarrassed wearing any clothing with a console sponsored brand unless is was 12 years old.

Tody_ZA1d 18h ago

It ain't real until LeBron tells us what this shoe means to his career.

DefenderOfDoom21d 15h ago

Puma the unofficial sneakers for the NYC Breakers from the movie Beat Street (1984)

Abnor_Mal1d 5h ago

Those were the suede ones like the burgundy ones with the fat shoe laces. If you were really nice you had the checker board laces done up. A pair of Lee or Guess jeans a BVD nylon T-shirt. Rocking some Gazelles and Kangol cap preferable the beaver fur.

DefenderOfDoom214h ago

Roc Steady Crew wanted to wear Adidas but was told must wear Pumas because they are funding the movie . Awesome time to be a teenager in the early 80's
. Cool thing about being in your 50s is we were there for the beginning of HIP HOP and Video games.

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein2d ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii2d ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo2d ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows902d ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

Michiel19892d ago

Not sure why you're getting agrees. an awful lot of console gamers are overemotional twinks ready to go to war over a plastic box, I'll take being a pc gamer then.

Speaking about overgeneralizing much.

Nooderus1d 21h ago

"X" type of gamer conversations are cringe

qalpha2d ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno2d ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan2d ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno2d ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life19812d ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

SegaSaturn6692d ago

I never liked refunding anything. Even if a film is bad, i dont want my money back. Sometimes things just aren't for me, and it's not the creator's fault necessarily.

Gaming4Life19812d ago

I feel you and i have never walked out on a bad movie cause I payed my money. I also don't refund games cause I'm a gamer and I know what to buy lol. I think having a digital refund is great.

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