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It's A Crime That Metal Gear Solid 4 Remains Exclusive To The PS3

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is incredible. It’s subversive, ambitious, epic, absurd, and was once the planned culmination of Hideo Kojima’s vision for the legendary franchise. Gamers now have the hindsight of knowing he would return to the well several more times, but back then it felt like the story of Solid Snake was coming to a definitive end.

To this day, it remains trapped on the PS3. It is one of the best looking and most technically accomplished games of its generation, which makes the abandonment of its legacy a bitter pill to swallow in 2022. Metal Gear Solid 2, 3, and Peace Walker are available on additional platforms nowadays, but the original and 4 are stuck in a strange limbo where older hardware or emulation is required to play them at all.

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Flawlessmic601d ago

Really hoping the news konami has coming of a beloved franchise is mgs,

Would love a boxset of 1-5!

northpaws601d ago

While I miss MGS, I don't want Konami to earn a dime more after what they did to Kojima.

neutralgamer1992600d ago

Man let it go

Kojima became famous
He was VP of Konami
MGS5 took too long and budget with engine was really high

Konami wants to do the least amount of spending and most amount of profits

maelstromb600d ago

What exactly did Konami do to Kojima?? I'm honestly not trolling with this comment. I legitimately am asking. I know the catch phrase/hashtag #F***konami is popular and has been cemented based on the severance of Konami and Kojima, and Konami's blatant unwillingness to produce anything of value for its long-time fans of its most popular franchises (Castlevania, MGS, Silent Hill, etc.), but does anyone truly know the specifics of what happened? All I've heard is speculation, opinions, and grandstanding, but nothing that suggests the "true" story.

ziggyzinfirion600d ago

@maelstromb, Didn't Konami at one point prevented Kojima from attending the Games Award 2015?

Syphos600d ago

@Maelstromb what ziggy said, Konami always disavowed Kojima's reputation like it's something hard to swallow for them so they pulled some moves looking like hoping he'd fail sometime because of it.

What they definitely did do though, was move the deadline for MGS5's development time, TWICE, by 6 months and everyone then bashed Kojima for releasing an unfinished game...

There are plenty of examples to be honest, just dig around if you really want to know..

VersusDMC600d ago

Especialy after Metal Gear survive and the latest Contra.

I see people bitching about what Konami did to Kojima was probably justified...but we definitely see what they did without him.

Konami will green light the trash above but Kojima has to convince them to green light lords of shadow.
Say what you want about lords of shadow but it is way better than the trash released lately.

mgszelda1600d ago

Or any of the other legends as well.

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Orchard601d ago

Agreed, and it’s not even a decent way to play the game with its hideous framerate and near constant drops.

RPCS3 is a decent way to play it at 60fps but is quite involved to setup and get working fully.

Hopefully Konami one day see sense and give us a proper remastered collection (by proper, I mean not like the SH HD collection…)

Nyxus601d ago

Replayed it recently on PS3 and it plays just fine.

Orchard601d ago (Edited 601d ago )

Framerate is very inconsistent, drops to 15-20 all over the place too. And that’s with a sub 720p internal res.

PC with a reasonably recent spec can hit 60 consistently - but the real fix would be a gen9 port.

Limitedtimestruggle600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

"Played just fine"

Yeah, people said so with Cyberpunk on base Xbox One and PS4 as well. I mean, this is just plain lying.

The framerate in MGS4 on PS3 IS a big problem, always was. Still is. It varies between 20-60fps, it's all over the place. I had a shit ton of fun with the game though, but I won't deny it's a technical mess on original hardware.

P_Bomb600d ago

I had good experiences playing MGS4 on PS3 and Cyberpunk on PS4 Pro. Maybe I got lucky? Maybe I have more tolerance? Maybe both? But good was good.

MadLad601d ago (Edited 601d ago )

You're getting disagrees, as always, but the game really does drop all over the place.

Emulation legitimately runs it better on decent PCs, and the PS3 is hard to emulate for considering the CPU they chose.

generic-user-name601d ago

He's getting disagrees for his gross exaggeration.

"it’s not even a decent way to play the game"

A ridiculous statement to anyone who has played the game like it was intended.

MadLad601d ago

@generic

So does it drop all the time, or not?
Because I've also played it on original hardware.

Hofstaderman601d ago

This game was designed from the ground up to run on the PS3. I’ve played through it 9 times, most recently 4 months ago. I don’t ever recall having experienced frame drops. Wouldn’t mind it ported to ps4 or ps5.

Shane Kim601d ago

It actually ran really well. The odd part was the installing between acts, but I guess that was made because of improving frames and what not.

HardKnockKid24601d ago

@ generic-user-name, me thinks you are grossly exaggerating someone grossly exaggerating. How is "it’s not even a decent way to play the game", not an apt description for someone saying they are getting 15-20 fps out of a game? What is a decent/acceptable frame rate to you?

generic-user-name600d ago

@madlad

I've played it over 10 times and there are only a few instances where the drops were noticeable to me.

@Hardknock

You think if it was running in 15fps that that would not have been the dominant talking point about that game when it launched? That every user review wouldn't constantly bring that up? Every review would have been talking about how unplayable it is. So yeah, gross exaggeration, like I said.

1Victor600d ago

@ mad here’s digital foundry video. https://youtu.be/s7gmgg5Uzv...
Does the frame drop yes like ALL THE GAMES OF THAT TIME AND SOME NOW
Is it noticeable no as most of the time it happens on heavy action moments

Gwiz600d ago

It's not really a game that runs bad on the PS3 the exclusive titles have the most of the optimization to begin with.

Limitedtimestruggle600d ago (Edited 600d ago )

Sony Defence Force are running their downvote squads overtime lol.

I cant take people seriously if they think "this is fine". The framerate is incredibly unstable, that's a plain fact.

I remember the TGS trailer though, smooth stable 60fps. It looked too good to be true, and it was.

HardKnockKid24600d ago

@ generic-user-name, your experience is not everyone else’s. Could’ve been his specific console, who knows, the point is it was HIS experience. If HIS experience is that he was getting those frames, how is that not an appropriate description. Have you never had something happen to you that hasn’t happened to anyone else before?

generic-user-name600d ago

@hardknock

"Could’ve been his specific console, who knows"

Wow, even more reason to disregard his opinion in that case.

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Father__Merrin601d ago

Ran pretty good and was one of the best looking games during its time. It is a very old game now and would make an excellent remake

jznrpg601d ago

That’s total BS it ran great I still have my ps3 and my copy of it .

TheExecutioner600d ago

I doubt you even tried it on ps3

1Victor600d ago

@ orchard Agreed, and it’s not even a decent way to play the game with its hideous framerate and near constant drops.

Sure like halo and all other old games had a steady 30fps hell even now we got games that can’t keep a steady frame rate drop 🤦🏿 😩 you and your hate agendas.
If I remember correctly Sony put the developers money into it and that’s why it still exclusive to PS3 and without Sony approval it won’t show up anywhere else so if you want to play the definitely end of the Solid Snake saga you have to buy a PS3 and the game both of witch are cheaper now you can get the game for $20 and the system depending if you look for it locally or online you can get it for less than $200. 🤷🏿

shinoff2183599d ago

I played it on ps3 without issue back in the day. Hopefully they do box up a set though for ps5or ps4 though for sure.

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ChiefofLoliPolice601d ago (Edited 601d ago )

I still have a original copy of it from when I first bought the MGS4 bundle 80gb. I swear man to this day this game still holds up very well even at 30fps.

badz149601d ago

if trolls are this persistent on every single games exclusive to a certain console or platform they don't own, why aren't more of these people bringing the same fight to Nintendo? you know, the one with the most game locked on their consoles and handhelds?

CosmicTurtle601d ago

But we cannot even play it directly on PS4 it PS5. The assets most likely still exist and it would not be hard to update to higher res or frame rates. Wanting more people to be able to play it is not an attack on Sony. It would be great if Nintendo ported more games too. I think people have made that point before. Game preservation is a big issue well beyond these companies.

Sgt_Slaughter600d ago

Nintendo has moved their games forwards quite a lot. NES games were available in Animal Crossing on the GameCube, they had NES/SNES/N64 and GameCube backwards compatibility on Wii, all of those worked on Wii U as well as GBA and DS games, and now NES/SNES/N64 are on Switch.

GBC had GB support, GBA had both as well, DS had GBA, 3DS had DS and GBA, etc.

Einhander1971601d ago

Obviously some bitterness among us on here, just get a ps3 and enjoy This game and many more!!

SurgicalMenace601d ago

The bitterness is real and easily remedied by purchasing the console that it's available for.

brewin601d ago

This is why I worked m ass off most of my life. So I could buy all the consoles I wanted. I remember the school yard fights over Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis. I was always like eff that, Im gonna be rich and buy them all while you peons argue over which one is better. Now I just buy them all and play the best that each has to offer. Problem solved.

Father__Merrin601d ago

They are extremely bitter this is proof enough that over the years they haven't had good games and and now relying on console ports

Knushwood Butt601d ago

I wonder how it would be if added to PS+ Premium.

SonyStyled600d ago

Probably the same as it was when it was on PSNow

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro50d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7250d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_50d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga50d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2350d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200051d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin51d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole51d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix51d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198950d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198950d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons361d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde361d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden361d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop361d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu360d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop361d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17361d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop360d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136360d ago (Edited 360d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984360d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster360d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989361d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon361d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA361d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon361d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA361d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon361d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden361d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt361d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989360d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90361d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden361d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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