Officially Welcoming Bethesda to Team Xbox

Publisher of iconic gaming franchises will expand Xbox’s diverse portfolio on Xbox Game Pass This is an exciting day for Xbox. Today we officially complete the acquisition of ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks.

[masterfox]

man so many games that will...nah wont say it, MS is great with exclusives right.. right people ?, oh boy.

[Nitrowolf2]

We'll see. The blog already confirmed new and exclusive Bethesda games coming to Xbox and PC too. I wouldn't be surprised if Fallout/Elder scroll start rolling off PS platform in the future, with the exception of online geared experiences. Just guessing though. As long as MS doesn't mishandled it and we see studio dead in the next 10 years

[Mr Pumblechook]

After paying all that money of course Microsoft is going to want to make the Bethesda games exclusive! But I do think it will be sad for the PlayStation and Nintendo communities who've enjoyed the Bethesda game worlds for years if they don't get to play Starfield or Elder Scrolls VI or Fallout 5.

Microsoft will want to keep Elder Scrolls Online and Fallout '76 multiformat, but I see some of the multiformat audience abandoning the games if they are not allowed into the new single player games.

[RauLeCreuset]

Here's the actual quote, which is the only one from the entire blog that addresses exclusivity:

"With the addition of the Bethesda creative teams, gamers should know that Xbox consoles, PC, and Game Pass will be the best place to experience new Bethesda games, including some new titles in the future that will be exclusive to Xbox and PC players."

Notice they said "some." More easily overlooked is the implication of "Xbox consoles, PC, and Game Pass will be the best place to experience new Bethesda games...." The implication being that there are other places to experience new Bethesda games besides "Xbox consoles, PC, and Game Pass."

There's other wording creating a theme of inclusivity and servicing all players in that release that pops out as something they can circle back to later to defend from criticism over releasing on other consoles. Language they can cite to claim they were upfront about their intentions to release on other consoles.

[ufo8mycat]

Never understood the "It's sad that exclusives make it so Playstation or Xbox players don't get to play the other platforms exclusives"

Just get BOTH consoles. Problem solved.

[RedDevils]

Just get a PC problem solve. Nothing has change if you game on PC.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

We all know MS sucks when it comes to exclusives but let's see what they do with the acquisition before the bashing starts. MS is AT LEAST trying to fix that mistake however MS should have never been in this position in the first place. I will say I'm tired of ALWAYS waiting for MS to release exclusives and when they FINALLY do they usually suck (except Forza).

[gamer7804]

gears of war 5 and the hive busters were fantastic, sea of thieves, had a rough launch, but is one of the best multiplayer games now. Its subjective to each his own, but I'd honestly rather play either of those than tlou2.

[TheKingKratos]

Gamer7804

You are such a salty bitch about the most awarded game of all time by Fans and Critics that you love to bring it up every single time you make a comment

Cry more please

[Skywalker333]

To be fair, they had a nice lineup in the original Xbox and a pretty good one in 360 with great many exclusive games. It is during the Xbox One era that they fudged up. It is clear that they are making large investments lately and hopefully they will be able to move away from the lackluster last generation and have a competitive selection of games.

[RedDevils]

What TLOU 2 has to do with MS, btw TLOU 2 still better than anything on xbox period even if you like it or NOT!

[frostypants]

THIS time will be different. THIS time they won't absolutely ruin the studio. THIS time...

[King_Noctis]

I wonder why you would even bothered to comment at all.

[Espangerish]

You have think that longer term Bethesda’s games will become Xbox/PC exclusives.

What all this tells me is that the perfect gaming setup is a PC and PS5. This should give the best of all worlds.

[DEEHULK88]

Well that's good because a lot of people claimed that they had PCs and now are wondering if games will stay on Playstation. If you have a PC, there is no reason to worry about if the games would be on Playstation unless you really don't have a PC.

[Espangerish]

‘If you have a PC, there is no reason to worry about if the games would be on PlayStation’

There is one reason...if you are lucky enough to have a high end PC you will get a better version of that game.

[DiRtY]

According to N4G every PS5 came bundled with a $1,999 Gaming PC.

[RgR]

Well it's also possible they prefer to stay in the playstation trophy system

[kayoss]

@espangerish
Thats his point. Everyone talk like they own a high end PC. If they dont own a High end PC, then why talk like they do?

[DOMination-]

It's kinda true. Everyone here used to say they will just play on PC yet 95% of the discussion is still about the exclusivity. Why does it even matter if y'all have super powerful gaming rigs? :D

[Obscure_Observer]

"If you have a PC, there is no reason to worry about if the games would be on Playstation unless you really don't have a PC."

Facts

[DEEHULK88]

Synthetic
I don't care where he plays because he is showing support to the platform

[Teflon02]

To be fair, Bethesda games were always games built as a mess outside of Doom. They always felt like games meant for PC.

RgR
While I prefer the Trophy system and like to stay in it. If the game doesn't exist on PS, it is what it is. Can't really complain about trophies not existing for a game not in the platform lol.

[CaptainObvious878]

I do have a PC, but excuse me for preferring to game on console.

[Extermin8or3_]

Unless perhaps you prefer to play on PlayStation.... like myself. With the exception of games like civ and AoE and Total war I'd rather play a game on my ps5 and before that my ps4 Pro than I would on my pc. Occasionally I play games on pc I have a large enough library of them but I find I just don't enjoy it as much, I get distracted by other things, there are qay more cheaters on most online games and the communities for online games are way way way way more toxic in like a stereotypical basement-dwelling acid spewing troll giving all hard-core gamers a bad name for decades.

Also now after years on psn I have a core group of close friends I frequently play games with on there aswell.

[Master of Unlocking]

I have a PC, and I have a couple reasons to worry about if TES VI will come out on Playstation. For equality's sake, because I'd like to play it with the DualSense, because I'd rather own the game in tangible form rather than just have some digital licence on Steam or Epic Games Store or Microsoft Store or w/e, because my PC is not beefy enough to run it, because my friends will be on PS5 a few years down the road and I'd like to send them screenshots of the vistas I'm gawking at while traversing Tamriel or w/e, etc.

All things considered it's more than a couple, actually.

[RedDevils]

@Dirty a high end gaming doesn't cost that much, unless you going for ultra setting on 4k. Beside if you're a gamer, there higher chance of you having a good pc to game on most modern game at 60fps +

[Neonridr]

toss a Switch in there and you are covered. That's my setup currently

[Teflon02]

Yup I got a Gaming PC, PS5 and Switch. You literally can't go wrong with the setup, unless you can't afford the PC, though can just buy in parts like I did lol

[RedDevils]

Same here PC, PS5 and Switch. PC are pretty cheap to upgrade. Although I usually upgrade the GPU within 4/5 years cycle.

[RazzerRedux]

Yep. None of this changes anything for PC/PS gamers like us. I'll continue to play Zenimax/Bethesda games on PC like always.

[DJStotty]

The salt is real

[RazzerRedux]

"The salt is real"

Says the guy who is upset that my preferred gaming platforms are unaffected by any of this? lol....ok

@Jericho1337

"Who do you mean by “us”? The entire n4g community?"

"PC/PS gamers like us" refers to PC/PS gamers like Espangerish and myself. How that would ever be translated to "the entire n4g community", I have no idea.

[Jericho1337]

Who do you mean by “us”? The entire n4g community?

[DEEHULK88]

The support you show just keeps everything rolling, so keep buying them on PC. PC is pretty much a Microsoft platform anyway, so keep it up.

[StoneyYoshi]

@Razzer

Everyone is just Jelly that gamers like you, Espangerish, and I don't have anything to worry about when it comes to missing out on any exclusives. And DJStotty is just an Xbox fanboy who tries to act like he's platform neutral but fails to show that almost daily on here. Like... who TF would be salty about this if they wouldn't be missing out regardless? 😂 I think DJStotty just salty he can't enjoy PS exclusives aside from the 4 that are now on PC and this news makes him feel better about his platform choice for some reason.

[Orchard]

And that's totally fine - your dollars are the same dollars to Microsoft - regardless of whether you buy on a PC or an Xbox.

If anything, they might make a higher profit share given they aren't trying to recoup hardware losses from you.

[RazzerRedux]

@StoneyYoshi

It is a bit funny, isn't it? The reactions from Xbox fans are all over the place. You've got DJ saying I'm salty as I'll continue playing on PC as always (he doesn't say that when I say as much for Sony games). Then you've got the inevitable reminder that Microsoft gets money from people buying Microsoft games. That's a brilliant tidbit of information, isn't it? Helluva thing finding out these companies are selling games for the profit.

https://memegenerator.net/i...

lol

[gamer7804]

uh that's not what I got out of this, basically current games and deals will be honored, mmo's will be on both, but future titles will only be on xbox and pc. Either way if you don't have a box with a Microsoft OS, you'll need to get one to play future games.

[RazzerRedux]

"uh that's not what I got out of this, basically current games and deals will be honored, mmo's will be on both, but future titles will only be on xbox and pc. Either way if you don't have a box with a Microsoft OS, you'll need to get one to play future games."

"I'll continue to play Zenimax/Bethesda games on PC like always."

No idea how that statement doesn't jive with what you "got out of this". And the rest of your post is pure supposition.

[InUrFoxHole]

@RazzerRedux
MS will appreciate your $

[SyntheticForm]

What I don't understand is how Microsoft getting your money is a win (or a loss) to ANY person in this comment section.

The same people who scream about how great choice is are upset that you're choosing to play certain games on PC and not Xbox - insanity.

To everyone else: Why shouldn't Razzer use his more flexible and probably more powerful option? You want him to use a lesser method to play his games? Why?

[RazzerRedux]

@SyntheticForm

As always, you are the voice of reason.

@InUrFoxHole

As always, you are the voice of whoever else is yapping shit you agree with at the moment.

[RedDevils]

Xbox fan got feeling too :( Why does it bother them if people prefer to game on PC than Xbox?

[DJStotty]

"Says the guy who is upset that my preferred gaming platforms are unaffected by any of this? lol....ok"

But you still felt obliged to comment, making sure everyone knows your preferred gaming platforms, and how none of this will affect you? ok.....

Not upset here, i'm getting these games playable on gamepass day 1 on my Series X, why would i be upset about your choice?

As to your point "None of this changes anything for PC/PS gamers like us." you keep buying those PC versions of Microsoft 1st party, they still get your money either way lol.

[DJStotty]

@StoneyYoshi

" I think DJStotty just salty he can't enjoy PS exclusives"

Not really i have a PS4 in the living room, i just prefer xbox, just a personal choice, but yeah i can play both.

[mark_parch]

perfect set up for me would be if gamepass became available on ps5, then i'd only need one console

[DOMination-]

By the end of the generation it will be and Sonys games will be on it.

[bleedsoe9mm]

As long as your on a Microsoft platform is some way they don't care how you do it.

[StoneyYoshi]

Yeah we know... But people on here do seem to care how we do it lol. People on here are acting like the ones who don't own an Xbox but play their games on PC don't wanna support Xbox which is absurd!

[Teflon02]

Most own a Windows computer anyways. But the thing is ppl will buy their games on Steam and Epic before windows store so they will get profits cut out. Unless they completely overhaul the windows store. It's a complete mess and the Phantasy Star situation was the prime example of why I'd never use again. Having to reinstall a game 40 times because the store doesn't allow proper executions of applications and will for some reason believe it can't start a operatable game. Also when I went outta my way to get Horizon 3 I think it was, it didn't allow me to use my PS control. Same with cuphead. But when I got the steam version of Lucky's tale and cuphead those worked perfectly with my PS control. Even with PS button prompts in cuphead.

[DJStotty]

Everyone is fully entitled to their platform of choice, be that PC/Playstation/Switch/Xbox or mobile.

I can not use the PC platform as it could probably just run Candy Crush or solitaire, it really struggles with Civilisation IV.

I may pick up a PS5 down the line if the funds merit i can do it, but at the moment, i just have to stick with PS4/Series X.

[Zeref]

My setup is Xbox, PC and my Phone, I can play my Xbox games everywhere I want. It feels great.

I'll probably get a PS5 later when Sony games are day and date on PSNow.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

What if PS5 games start going to PC? Then what would you do?

[StoneyYoshi]

Are we talking going to PC day in date with the PS5 or years down the road from original launch?

If it's the latter I would clearly play them on my PS5. If it's the former then it comes down to the type of game it is. FPS/cover based TPS I would go for the PC version but mostly anything else I would stick with playing on PS5.

[RedDevils]

Play on PC and PS5. If it on Steam I add it to my collection.

[RgR]

Well to be frank. The Xbox series s is fairly cheap. As I've said before it would be best to take the cheap route and get the series s along with a couple of months of gamepass

[Sayai jin]

With that logic and the fact that more and more PS games will be coming to the PC, then you only need a PC.

[NeoGamer232]

The perfect gaming setup is having a PC, PS5, XSX, Switch, Android Phone/Tablet, and Apple Phone/Tablet.

That way you can play any game that comes out that you might want to play.

Unfortunately every platform has exclusives, and to play those exclusives you have to be on the platform.

[DJStotty]

Lol yeah, i need some kind of cabinet for my consoles to live (a few are tucked away in drawers).

I have Mega Drive/Snes/Game Gear/PSP/DS/PS4/Xbox 360/Xbox One/Xbox One X/Series X and a pitiful PC.

Edit : oh i forgot Samsung tablet and of course the one 99% of people have, mobile :)

[NeoGamer232]

@DJStotty
Ya, I won't even go into my previous generations consoles for the ultimate setup. I have consoles dating all the way back to 1978. Coleco, Atari, Intellivision, Nintendo, Sega, etc. That is just a slippery slope I have gone down!

[gamer7804]

oh absolutely, mmo games and current games will continue to be on playstation, but anything else will be exclusive. Whatever combo of systems you enjoy go for it, personally I game on all 3 consoles and my pc is a dedicated design machine.

[Saijahn]

The perfect gaming setup is wherever you want to play. But on Tyne surface it would be pc as Jim Ryan has already confirmed more ps exclusives are losing that exclusive title and going to pc.

The only ones that seem to not understand where gaming has been trending is the ps exclusive elitists. They getting left behind hanging onto old ways

[Father__Merrin]

I really want to learn about the bigger games like elder scrolls and doom where they will go.

My guess they will remain on PlayStation let's wait and see

[Sayai jin]

7.5 billion USD to me is a tell tell sign on that answer. Only time will tell though.

[mkis007]

This press release basically spells it out. Some new games will be exclusive to pc xbox, but not all.

[Father__Merrin]

Makes sense. I can see the new Indian Jones game being exclusive as a new ip many may flock to play it if its any good

[Shiken]

The reason SOME is used is due to Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop, where a contract exists.

This is the most likely reality...

-The two above games release on PS due to contract.
-ESO and other service games that exist on both platforms will be supported with future new content.
-All new games outside of the above (hence the word "some") will be XBox/PC only. This includes Elder Scrolls, Starfield, Fallout, DOOM, etc.

[mkis007]

Shiken

I think you are twisting the words. Its very clear they want bethesda to remain Bethesda. I think the press release was pretty clear to which side it placed the word "some" on.

[Phoenix76]

@shiken

I suspect that all current ip's such as Doom, Elder scrolls, Fallout etc, will continue to be multi platform titles as these ip's sell well enough on PlayStation to keep them that way (see the recent doom 3 psvr announcement).
Newly announced ip's such as Death loop have timed exclusivity, however, any new ip's announced going from this date forward, "could" be MS platform only. But that would be MS's call to make.

[iplay1up2]

Microsoft wants you to buy their console. I think single player games will be Xbox/PC exclusive. Multiplayer will probably be cross platform, because there will be more players.
I am very happy with my Series X!

[mkis007]

Nah they dont care about consoles anymore.

[RedDevils]

Those games are mostly play on PC. So I get it on PC regardless if it Google or MS brought them or not.

[DJStotty]

I would say they will keep the big titles multiplatform, like ES6 and Fallout/Doom.

Maybe some of the smaller ones and new titles Xbox and PC

We may find out tomorrow what the plans are.

[Thundercat77]

I wish them better luck than the other studios managed and adquired by Microsoft.

Microsoft has a tuff decision to make. Keep Behtestha games out of Playstation platform greatly reducing sales and user base while not affecting Playstation domination at all or keep Behtestha games on all platform and bet on getting more sales and user base.

Let's be honest here. Playstation is not going to loose its market domination if they don't have Behtestha games. Microsoft better think their strategy very well.

[DEEHULK88]

All of Bethesda games sold the most on PC, so leaving Playstation wouldn't be that big of a deal. Control couldn't even sell more than Alan Wake and Control was on Playstation, Xbox, PC, so being on Playstation doesn't guarantee you gobs of sales. That revenue argument could be used for any game exclusive to one platform. How much money did Spiderman leave on the table being exclusive to Playstation?

[Father__Merrin]

I think they sold most on PlayStation

[DEEHULK88]

Father_Merrin

Not true and a perfect example would be Doom Eternal. You don't need Playstation to sell game and all you have to do is look at Valheim a game that has sold 5 million copies without Playstation

[RedDevils]

Control was an boring game, I regretted buying it digital on PS5.

[Neonridr]

It's a business to MS. You think they won't welcome the millions of dollars they will earn by having the games release on Playstation as well? I'm sure the bigger titles we will see release everywhere, but there will also be some new IPs that Bethesda will develop for Xbox/PC only.

[DeadManMMX]

They’ll get more by bringing people to GamePass

[Zhipp]

By that logic they should release Halo on playstation, too.

[Neonridr]

@Zhipp - I mean they have to keep some games exclusive. They kept Minecraft on all platforms even after the acquisition. If they want to drive people to their hardware, then sure, they could release all their games only on Xbox / PC. But I think they will keep some titles everywhere as a sign of good faith and good business.

[jcole97]

Of course it’s a business to Microsoft just as it is for Sony. Yet, you don’t see Sony allowing spiderman or god of war on xbox. There is incentive to making exclusives

[ReadyPlayer22]

In what world does a company that made $50 billion in pure PROFIT in just 2020 alone, need anyone else to make money?

Microsoft wants domination especially when their tech rivals Apple, Amazon, Google, and Tencent are all aggressively entering gaming. I wouldn't get my hopes up on major titles coming PS

[DeadManMMX]

They made their own track and started out on it a long time ago. Best thing they did their own Blue Ocean strategy. They literally created a track where they profit no matter what you do. So everybody “oh I will get a PC”. Great they want you to do that! You want to pay full price to play on Steam when you can get these games as part of an affordable subscription that costs as much as like 2-3 games a year. Brilliant! They don’t care where you buy games. Some of us aren’t PC gamers and will never do the bulk of our gaming on PC. In that case stream or buy an Xbox. It’s your choice! If you want to say goodbye to those games out of some misguided loyalty to a company well that’s your choice too. The other people who will now have easy access to these games will supplant you. All of the growing subscriptions and profits they get from GamePass will Replace you. You will live happy without those games And they will live happily without you. Isn’t it great?

[Jericho1337]

I’m sure Microsoft will read your comment and take your advice on board.

[LOGICWINS]

I'm sure Microsoft, a one trillion dollar company, appreciates your "advice" lol.

[Sayai jin]

Xbox execs salary is mainly determined by game pass revenue, even MS' CEO salary is directly affected by this. They want people to sign into the MS ecosystem. Xbox or Windows.

Going by some folk's logic, why would Nintendo or Sony keep their games exclusive....? I know that answer, just pointing out the skewed or tainted logic some have. If Sony made God of War multi plat it would sell millions more copies. All would make more money making their games multi platform.

[NeoGamer232]

Please tell us about the current studio list and which ones are unsuccessful under Microsoft.

[Zhipp]

MS-owned-Bethesda can technically take a 30% sales reduction without losing any revenue just due to the fact they won't have to pay the "console tax" anymore.

Also, not saying I necessity believe this is achievable, but remember how MS wanted to sell 1billion Xbox one's last gen? I don't think they've given up on that goal. Seems to me they're now looking to use Gamepass+Xcloud to reach that number. If that's their ambition, the loss of playstation sales will barely register for them.

[kindi_boy]

I can't disagree more, it's exclusives and Gamepass that is going to going to start making dent in Sony's dominance. Microsoft are taking this for the long haul no sane person makes a $7.5B to make a quick buck next day.

[aaronaton]

I wonder if the staff at these ZeniMax studio's are as thrilled as MS are?

[Neonridr]

indefinite funding removing that worry? Yes, they are happy.

[neomahi]

They were getting whatever they wanted from ZeniMax anyway, I dont see a difference in funding. Microsoft still has to make money and lets be real here, long time Xbox fans will smile but, most PlayStation fans arent gonna care. Bethesda has a really strong Microsoft mentality, if you didnt like Microsoft, you didnt like Bethesda. Id games might be a bigger deal, Doom was always HUGE! Tango gameworks, however, eh, they havent really made anything of worth..... Ever.

[Neonridr]

@neomahi - I just mean it takes that worry out. Devs don't have to worry about where the money is coming from now. MS is cutting the cheques. For some of the smaller Zenimax studios, that might be a burden off their shoulders.

[strifeblade]

Bro if the staff is getting paid they are happy

[Sayai jin]

Man, you guys never get tired of this.

[annoyedgamer]

Consolidation leads to monopoly and fewer choices. That is an economic fact.

[Sayai jin]

Well all other companies should not acquire studios.

BTW, MS stated they are not done making acquisitions. They have the want and most importantly the means.

[NeoGamer232]

Microsoft is far from a monopoly in the gaming industry. Legally monopolies are defined in a specific market.

Last I checked in consoles MS are third place

On PC, they are behind at least Steam and Epic

On phone/tablet they don't even rate.

[RazzerRedux]

"With the addition of the Bethesda creative teams, gamers should know that Xbox consoles, PC, and Game Pass will be the best place to experience new Bethesda games, including SOME new titles in the future that will be exclusive to Xbox and PC players."

Some? Not all? Isn't that interesting?

[Father__Merrin]

The "some" will be the lesser titles I hate calling games as lesser but in comparison to elder scrolls they are Rage 3 will be exclusive but not Doom next probably won't. New ip are likely timed if they end up being good and so on so forth

[Paytaa]

Probably PR speak to not forget that 2 Bethesda games are timed exclusives to PS5 which are new titles, hence why the said "some". Plus ongoing games like FO76 and ESO

[Orchard]

Still a bunch of timed exclusives for PS5 that they likely cannot (or are not willing to) buy their way out of - Deathloop and Ghostwire.

[Sayai jin]

Not interesting at all, There are the 2 games Sony paid for timed exclusivity for that will be multi console.

[RauLeCreuset]

I have no idea how so many are reading that statement as MS is going to cut out PS for new games except for deals that were made prior to the acquisition.

[Mikeyy]

Everybody keeps focusing on the SOME statement but the more impactful one came before it.

"gamers should know that Xbox consoles, PC, and Game Pass will be the best place to experience new Bethesda games,"

We've seen this wording many many times from companies, usually about timed exclusivity agreements. I think they are clearly stating that established franchises we all love are still going to be multiplatform, and they are saying the BEST place to play them are on Xbox services, it does not say the only place to play them. So that tells us that perhaps dlc and add-ons, or even modes, for games will come out first on Xbox services, then hit other systems later.

Then they talk about SOME, (notice they didn't use the word most) new IPs in the future will be exclusive.

Seems pretty clear to me, they still haven't said fallout, doom and elderscrolls are exclusive, that clearly means they are not going to be, there's no legal reasons not to say so anymore. They are using the nicest explanations possible, with trying to advertise for playstation.

[anast]

Bethesda is going to be making awesome phone games in the future.

[jznrpg]

They already have the shit game Elder Scrolls Blades

[Redemption-64]

According to Eurogamer
Microsoft has confirmed that "some new titles" from Bethesda and parent company Zenimax Studios will be "exclusive to Xbox and PC".

My guess, established and possibly already announced games will still come to Playstation. Personally Skyrim and Fallout are my favorite Bethesda games.

[Sayai jin]

Skyrim is one of the best selling games period, let alone one of the best selling RPG.

[stonecold3]

Actually final fantasy is a better rpg game sell more then. Skyrim alone

[InUrFoxHole]

Lol sure buddy. Final Fantasy is crap compared to skyrim

[RedDevils]

Depend on what you prefer JRPG or Western RPG.

[S2Killinit]

MS’s vision for the future, keep eating the industry and put all of what everyone would have had behind a monthly subscription wall. Wonderful conduct. How about adding to the industry a bit? Nah this is easier. Lets hope at least the games survive game pass mediocrity.

[strifeblade]

Gamepass games from Betty on day 1 sign me up. Gamepad gets better and better

[S2Killinit]

Sure thing. So far its been riding on a temporarily cheap price and existing ip. Soon they will charge you for the sports package bundle. Enjoy.

[chronoforce]

I doubt MS will put anything exclusively on Game pass, it's not like developers choose between making their games a free to play MT filled grind-fest or charging a flat, up front fee. They do both. The future is in our hands.

The inorganic growth is a cause for concern and I am not convinced that the "Reach billions of gamers" mantra makes any sense, which is what seems to have caused it.

[Orchard]

If the future of the industry is huge AAA games like Zenimax games for a low monthly cost - Count me in!

No one likes paying $70 for a game.

[S2Killinit]

You are still paying and playing the same amount of gaming. Its not like you will have more hours to play games. The only difference is that now you will be paying more overall because you will be subscribed to a monthly payment, and the developers will not have to compete as much because filler can get as much hits as a masterpiece. Think mobil game store. If you think this saves YOU money, you are in for a rude awakening buddy. Most of the games on gamepass will be 5 bucks on the market by the time you choose to play them. Sure you will also get to play a 70 dollar game on first day but in the long run it wont be the same type of quality gaming as you would get when the devs need to compete for your choice.

In the end, you will pay more, and play the same. And that’s if you refrain from ever purchasing a game that is currently not on gamepass.

[Orchard]

"You are still paying and playing the same amount of gaming."

Hardly. Assuming you pay monthly with no discount... works out at $180 a year. That's less than 3 $70 games. I historically have bought a lot more than 3 games per year.

"Most of the games on gamepass will be 5 bucks on the market by the time you choose to play them. Sure you will also get to play a 70 dollar game on first day but in the long run it wont be the same type of quality gaming as you would get when the devs need to compete for your choice."

It's many 70 dollar day 1 games... the first party games + second party games + Zenimax alone makes it worth the money.

If the $5 bargain bucket 'filler' games are Halo, Forza and all the Zenimax games, those seem like good $5 games and a bargain at 5 bucks :)

Nice try to downplay this, but clearly game pass is good and this Zenimax acquisition is huge. When Sony do the same service, you'll likely praise it.

[kindi_boy]

The majority of PS5 loyalists are completely fine with that. It's like they feel joy when they pay money to Sony.

[Abnor_Mal]

If the Zenimax games leave PlayStation then oh well, if they stay then oh well. Either way I won't be buying them anymore. This generation all I will be worrying about is PlayStation exclusives and PSVR games.

Any third party games will only be bought after years on the market and its retail price is twenty dollars or less, then i'll likely still wait for a sale.

Enjoy your games Xbox community.

[Workshyskiver]

AH so this is the source of all the salt in the sea.

[strifeblade]

You sound so sour. And you think exclusive means automatically better? Lol. Your missing out on tons of games.

[Abnor_Mal]

@Mcardle & @strifeblade
No salt, so stop projecting. I said if the games become exclusive, thats cool. If they remain playable on PlayStation thats cool. Either way I won't be buying because in truth I'm not much into games so much anymore and feel that many are a chore to finish.

I've only played Skytim on PS3, and never finished. I rebought it on PSVR and still have to play it. Doom I bought the one in 2016(?), while it was okay I didnt feel it was great, just was never into Doom. As I didn't play 2D games back in the days and only really got into games in thr PS1 era. Dishonored was good, only played the first own the others through Plus, haven't touched them yet. What else, is Rage one of the games, if so didn't like the first and stopped early in the story. Fallout3 is the only Fallout I've played so far, although I have 4 and Shelter through Plus, but again never played them. See there's a trend happening way before any Microsoft aqusition.

During the PS3/4 generations I've bought games that I thought I'd want to play but then they've ended up just sitting. Understand none of these games were purchased at full or even half price, but rather on sale after it was heavily reduced in price. I was wasting money regardless if I was only spending five dollars for the game on sale. I have tons of games on both systems I still haven't started, which is why I said I will be concentrating on PlayStation exclusives and PSVR games. I plan to buy less and only what I really REALLY want to play. I didnt buy Death Stranding because I felt that game wasn't anything I would like, and after release, articles and comments I'm glad I didn't. It would have been another game sitting wasting.

I don't play games on PC, and I've never owned an Xbox. I'm not going to buy something just because a few games went exclusive. I have been liking VR more and more recently which is why I've been saying flat screen gaming is starting to be boring to me. Now PSVR isn't the best VR system by far but it is the simplist, compared to PCVR types like Vive, Quest and whatever else. Im not into PCs and tech. Hell not too long ago I didnt even know how to send a link on my phone lol.

If I do get a third party game as I said it will be years after release and the priced has dropped significantly and find it on sale, and it has to be a game I'm sure I will play if I buy it and not have it sitting up, been there done that.

So yes enjoy your games Xbox community, there was no salt being thrown your way. I was just wishing you enjoyment with the games you will have on your system. "And you think exclusive means automatically better?" Thats interesting when this about games possibly going exclusive, and everyone is excited for better games on the platform. All I did was say where I tend to play and said regardless what happens to the games in question its okay, and to enjoy. But you two only see salt and sourness, one can see where the real salt and sour is coming from.

Damnit, I replied to myself, excuse me while I add a couple of @s.

[Gravesinger_]

You know how I know you're being salty @Abnor_Mal ? Because you took the time to right an article about why you AREN'T salty. Just stop responding kid, and enjoy your games...wherever you play them

[Gravesinger_]

Hoes mad LOL

[Abnor_Mal]

No I wrote to further explain my reasoning for my first comment. Honestly if I would have put all of that in my first comment I would have gotten the same response.

I guess people think my comment salty because I said oh well, and I'm not going to play those games any more, which is why I explained why I wouldn't. No where in any of the two comments did I talk trash about the games, Zenimax, Microsoft or Xbox.

I was more vocal about MS acquiring Ninja Theory, this im just saying its alright whatever is done.

Thank you I will enjoy my games where I play them, which is basically what I was saying with enjoy your games Xbox Community.

[InUrFoxHole]

Oh... they mad!

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Honestly Bethesda and Microsoft just makes sense. They have a long history of partnering and working today. I remember Morrow Wind on Xbox and Oblivion on Xbox 360. Doom 3 was also ported to Xbox. And not to mention all the countless other Bethesda games that came on PC.

Master Chief and Doom Guy are practically cousins.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Working together*

[NotanotherReboot]

Welcome to the family, Bethesda <3

[DJStotty]

My Series X is ready!!!!

[Kurt Russell]

I hope Ghostwire Tokyo hits gamespass once it is done with its Playstation timed exclusive. It looks like an interesting title.

[Sayai jin]

It will and Death Stranding. I was going to get both on PS5, but I'll wait 6 month to a year when they come to game pass. I'll have more than enough games to play on PS5, now this will give me some more games to play on my rigs and Xbox.

[Workshyskiver]

I still think the big hitters like Doom, Fallout and Elder Scrolls will be multiplatform, with time exclusivity, which given the state most games launch in is almost a blessing for PS fans. The smaller games and new titles the likes of Dishonoured or even the two new games that are ironically timed PS exclusives will go full MS exclusive in the future.

[Sayai jin]

Only time will tell. I think the exact opposite. They want people to subscribe into game pass. A new ES, Fallout, Doom, etc would do that, but not the smaller titles.

[ocelot07]

It would certainly suck if the likes of Elder Scrolls and Fallout and Doom future games don't come to Playstation. I ways buy them games first on Playstation and then later down the lines when they are dirt cheap on pc.

But it certainly won't hurt Sony. It won't turn the tides and suddenly Xbox is the system to own that is.nkt going to happen when playstation and Nintendo is still a thing.

However, I still don't believe the likes of them games wont come to Playstation or Nintendo. The "some" pc and Xbox only ties could and most likely will be smaller titles. Like Rage or Dishonored or new IP.

If in the unlikely scenario Fallout and Doom don't come to ps5. I'll just rent them for a £1 a month from gamepass. If they come to Playstation then great I'll buy the most likely day one for RRP and again once they are dirt cheap on pc like I always do.

I do hope they focus on VR games still. Have enjoyed the VR titles like Skyrim and fallout and Doom. Looking forward to Doom 3 VR later in the month on playstation.

[Sayai jin]

That's what MS wants...people to subscribe to game pass. 7.5 billion USD is a tell tell sign on how these games will land on exclusivity. If the quality is not on par to previous iterations, it will be noticeable and only have one meaning. Hope they don't eater these games down.

[DJStotty]

I can feel the ripples already in the comments, i called it, i got bashed to high heaven (like always), but i called it.

Gamepass Day 1, ES6, starfield plus more, some games Xbox/PC exclusive

Greatness awaits

Greatness has landed

Happy gaming people, across all platforms!!!!

[RedDevils]

Especially on PC.

[DJStotty]

I would prefer to game on PC to get all the extra bells and whistles the platform holds over consoles.

I just need to do a fresh PC build when the funds allow :)

[Battlestar23]

Bethesda is one of the best gaming devs out there. They make some of the best games ever made like Doom and Fallout and they are all well received by critics. I can safely say that Bethesda is better then any studio that Sony has including the 'woke' devs of Naughty Dog. Welcome to the Microsoft family Bethesda a family of gaming's biggest exclusive games.

[DOMination-]

Bethesda didn't develop Doom

[Phoenix76]

Best gaming dev ever? Best games ever like Fallout?
https://youtu.be/kjyeCdd-dl...
Ok........... Now, look, I loved the fallout game, platinum fo3 on ps3 and fo4 on the ps4, (Phoenix R25 if you wanna check) but let's be real here at least, Bethesda isnt the best dev, not by a long shot. And Fallout has gone downhill with the release of 76.

[P_Bomb]

“ I can safely say that Bethesda is better then any studio...”

I haven’t bought a Bethesda game since..? Not my scene. Last one I got was a Secret Santa copy of Oblivion well over 10yrs ago.

[isarai]

Everyone still arguing over something we haven't gotten an answer on 🤣. This is no different then when they said "on a case by case basis" from the start. The fact that they're being so vague should be obvious, but lets just wait and see

[thesoftware730]

Such a power move!

[Father__Merrin]

Almost 60% of fallout 4 sales was on ps4 nearly 5 million copies first week.....

[thesoftware730]

For the people saying all I need is PS5 and PC, well good for you.....and MS cause you will be putting money in their pockets one way or another lol, and if you are smart you might want to get PC GP and play all the Bethesda games day 1. If not drop the $50-$60, Like the honey badger, MS don't give a shit. They will thank you for the support.

But guess what as well? Not everyone has a good PC able to run said games, so this is still a huge power move in the console space, if you love Bethesda games, and don't have a strong enough PC...guess what, you gonna have to get and Xbox...again MS gets money.

Lets say, MS decide to make ES6 Xbox exclusive, how can we pretend that this is not a big loss for Sony..come on lets stop being fanboys for a sec and give a power play its due...crazy how some can downplay this.

[Father__Merrin]

Your acting as if its some kind of punishment that Microsoft still get your money. If a game is worth someone's money they will buy it. Its just there's no need to many to buy an xbox anymore.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Unless you prefer gaming on an actual console. Just because XBOX and PS games come on PC doesn't mean people actually want to play on a PC especially considering all the problems with hacking and cheating in multiplayer.

[thesoftware730]

See, that's where I disagree, not everyone has a great Pc that can run all these new games, and not everyone prefer PC gaming. That is evident with Console sales, even Xbox one 40mil or whatever it is.

I am one of those people, I rather play on XBOX and PS5 than my PC..but my son Plays PS5 and PC most, so its not if I dont understand preference, I am more so speaking about the way this is being downplayed.

You miss the point of me saying MS still gets paid. I mention it because of the negative narrative of "I don't need an Xbox" as a diss to MS, my point with, 'they get paid either way' is that they are a company and creating an eco system where they receive revenue even if you don't own their dedicated Xbox system, and this acquisition was a power play to further that goal, huge move anyway you slice it.

Btw Sony is also starting to bring games to PC as it is smart to do so..to get more money as games become more and more expensive to make. The difference is, if/when Sony adopts a more aggressive PC stance, we will have some of these same people saying its a good thing..or saying stuff like..it already sold all it can on PS so its fine.

[RazzerRedux]

"For the people saying all I need is PS5 and PC, well good for you.....and MS cause you will be putting money in their pockets one way or another lol, and if you are smart you might want to get PC GP and play all the Bethesda games day 1. If not drop the $50-$60, Like the honey badger, MS don't give a shit. They will thank you for the support."

This is funny. Just a few days ago, I posed this question directly to you:

"That works both ways. Will Xbox only fans stop accusing PC/PS gamers such as myself of not really having a gaming PC at all? Or will they stop with the "MS still gets your money" defense mechanism every time playing an Xbox game on PC is mentioned?"

https://n4g.com/news/240361...

And so I finally got the answer to my second question, didn't I? No idea why you need that defense mechanism that Microsoft is getting my money for playing their games. Bigger question is why does it trigger you so much that I am playing all their games on PC and not Xbox? That's the real issue you have or you and other Xbox fans wouldn't be bringing it over and over.

And yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to using Game Pass to rent those Bethesda game. Hopefully I'll still be able to take advantage of that $1 trick over and over again. lol.

[CBaoth]

that has always been the obligatory defense mechanism for xbox fans on the internet. Doesn't matter how many times you point out it's not some anti-MS rallying cry denouncing Xbox, they can't help but process it as xbox bad playstation good fanboy rhetoric.

Play Anywhere! Yet they sure do seem to get upset for people playing MS games on devices not named Xbox's. Hope no one told'em about Xcloud and mobile users in the coming years.

[thesoftware730]

@Razzer..I peep your style, your funny..I will show you how.

"And so I finally got the answer to my second question, didn't I?"

I get busy some time and forget to comment on many post, sorry for the delay? lol.

"No idea why you need that defense mechanism that Microsoft is getting my money for playing their games. "

Its not a defense mechanism or being Triggered lol, I can promise you I don't take this serious at all, but I am a gamers on a gaming message board, its what we do right, give our opinions and views and sometimes call out others for fanboying?

Let me point out that you came into a Post about MS acquiring Bethesda and said.

"Yep. None of this changes anything for PC/PS gamers like us. I'll continue to play Zenimax/Bethesda games on PC like always."

What don't it change? That you still don't need an Xbox? why did you feel the need to state that...what do you think about the deal? oh you don't really care about that, just the need to let us know that PS5 and PC is all you need lol, how could anyone miss your obvious troll?

"Bigger question is why does it trigger you so much that I am playing all their games on PC and not Xbox? That's the real issue you have or you and other Xbox fans wouldn't be bringing it over and over."

For the record x2, I'm never Triggered once again I can promise you. Its all just a few minuets free time and my like for games..all in fun. To answer you question tho..I don't mind in the slightest, my Son only plays PS5 and PC as well, but you stealth troll on MS and pretend that you don't. Once again you came into a MS article and mentioned that you only need your PS5 and PC, and then Hived with the Other PS5 and PC users to perpetuate not needing an XBOX, why sir? Because your full of hate for MS for some strange reason lol.

Its ok, we get it, you don't like the company, cause all you need is a PC and PS5(you forgot Nintendo btw..some of the best games ever). lmao...you should go to every Xbox article and state that.

[StoneyYoshi]

People will say what they need to in order to feel better about their purchases.

[StoneyYoshi]

"You miss the point of me saying MS still gets paid. I mention it because of the negative narrative of "I don't need an Xbox" as a diss to MS"

Heres the issue with that statement. It's only a "diss" to MS because you and others take it that way. Really, its just a fact/opinion thats being stated for whoever says it. But comments like yours spin the narrative like it's a negative comment to your precious platform when all the person is saying that they have no reason to drop another $300-500 on another console when they have a perfectly capable PC in their home. It literally has jack shit to do with people not wanting to support their ecosystem.

"and if you are smart you might want to get PC GP and play all the Bethesda games day 1."

Well... considering if they are smart enough to not drop more money on a console since they have a capable PC, it goes without saying they are going to do exactly that. It's exactly what I do. 😉 But go ahead and keep reminding me that my money goes to MS with either choice we go with captain obvious. 🙄

[thesoftware730]

To be clear, I have many Precious consoles including PC..
I have a PS2, PS3,PS4 and a PS5.
I have OG Xbox, Xbox one X and series X
I have a GBA, 3DS, NES, Super NES, Gamecube, Wii U and a switch

Its not a spin, no high road for you/them here brother..People in fact troll, when you enter and article about something and don't say anything truly concerning the main topic except that it don't affect you and you only need PS5 and PC is obvious trolling..for instance, why mention all they need is PS5 in an Xbox article? lol..why not just say something like, I'll get the Bethesda games on PC, good thing MS isn't keeping these games tied to their console ...(Wink, Wink), but PS5 is mentioned for what reason?

EXACTLY! I'm glad its obvious to you! My point is valid then..downplay the company and console and then give them your money because buying Bethesda was a power move lol. Thanks for getting it!

[StoneyYoshi]

@Thesoftware730

"To be clear, I have many Precious consoles including PC.."

Hey, me too!! 😃

"People in fact troll, when you enter and article about something and don't say anything truly concerning the main topic except that it don't affect you and you only need PS5 and PC is obvious trolling..for instance, why mention all they need is PS5 in an Xbox article?"

Just because people troll doesn't mean everyone does. While I agree that it's not on topic including PS in Xbox centric articles but this news clearly brings up peoples concerns about which games will be exclusive and which games wont which allows the conversation to branch out with mentions of PS5. This situation goes both ways though so its a never ending battle regardless of your efforts.

"why not just say something like, I'll get the Bethesda games on PC, good thing MS isn't keeping these games tied to their console ...(Wink, Wink)"

This is N4G we are talking about... People would take that comment the same way as if they included PS in it because you are still commenting about how you don't need to buy an Xbox to play the games. People would somehow still take that as an insult sadly lol.

[RazzerRedux]

"Its not a defense mechanism or being Triggered"

Sure it is. And after reading this current post...lol....yep, triggered.

"....just the need to let us know that PS5 and PC is all you need lol, how could anyone miss your obvious troll?"

I was agreeing with Espangerish's opinion that PC and PS5 offer the best coverage for the vast majority of gaming. That's what spun you up? Seriously? I've advocated PC gaming in most articles even Sony ones where I've praised the addition of their games to PC. Obviously you take this stuff much much more seriously than you pretend. By the end this post, you are accusing me of "hating" Microsoft. That's hilarious.

"For the record x2, I'm never Triggered once again I can promise you"

lol....thou protest too much, methink.

"but you stealth troll on MS and pretend that you don't. Once again you came into a MS article and mentioned that you only need your PS5 and PC, and then Hived with the Other PS5 and PC users to perpetuate not needing an XBOX, why sir? Because your full of hate for MS for some strange reason lol."

There it is! Full of hate? lol...triggered confirmation. As far as trolling, you are projecting. Let's revisit that Days Gone coming to PC article I linked (where I also praised Sony games on PC).

This is what you said:

"I guess MS had the right Idea all along.

Will Sony only fans embrace this after giving MS a lot of crap for supporting PC?"
https://n4g.com/news/240361...

You can turn your finger pointing right back around at yourself as you were not saying "anything truly concerning the main topic". Nope, you just needed to add "Microsoft had the right idea". (wink wink). That article had nothing to do with Microsoft at all, but there you were. Stealth trolling (according to you) and now hypocrisy. No, I'm not going to suggest you are "full of hate" towards Sony. That's the kind of thing triggered people say.

"Its ok, we get it, you don't like the company, cause all you need is a PC and PS5(you forgot Nintendo btw..some of the best games ever). lmao...you should go to every Xbox article and state that."

Actually, I have nothing but praise for Microsoft outside of its gaming division where they have been severely lacking over the years (but slowly improving). My job resolves entirely around Microsoft as a C# developer. Microsoft has the best dev tools and environment that I've ever used (and I've used many). So your need to assign personal feelings to me towards Microsoft is unfounded and frankly, a bit absurd.

[thesoftware730]

@Razzer, you forgot this post was before the one you posted..on topic, and a clear embracing of Sony releasing games on PC.

"Exactly, no surprise here."

"People seem to not like it for some odd reason, might be because they have one less reason to shit on Xbox games being on PC. The whole, no reason for an Xbox console, just buy it on PC, seem to be moving closer and closer to a industry standard. People tend to forget $$$ is what these companies are about not fan wars."

Also, my post you posted had words like
"I guess"

The 2nd part was a question.
"Will Sony fans embrace this after giving MS crap....,?

It was a question..a valid one as some fans liked it some didnt.

If you clearly read both post, you can see that they are leaning towards..stop the bias, and stop the fanboyism..as Sony and MS are about money, so why only give one company crap..while making excuses for both.
Only if you knew me in RL, you would see I play everything..N4G is just full of MS haters that dont make sense and posting and debating fellow gamers is fun..I personally dont think anyone on here ever changed anyone else's mind about something like this.

And maybe I take Triggered differently or wrong. I thought it meant angry or mad or some negative emotions..those I am not..but I do like a good debate, apparently you do as well..so pointing out hypocrisy or debating a topic is Triggered.?

And I'm glad you like MS the company, but this is a gaming site and we are talking about this specific division..so you using dev tools is irrelevant, except for you attempting to fain some kinda like for MS to make some kind of point.

"All I need is my PS5 and PC" lol..

It's all good Raxzzer, I like you or at least you internet persona👍🏾

[RazzerRedux]

"People seem to not like it for some odd reason, might be because they have one less reason to shit on Xbox games being on PC. The whole, no reason for an Xbox console, just buy it on PC, seem to be moving closer and closer to a industry standard. People tend to forget $$$ is what these companies are about not fan wars."

No, that wasn't "on topic" at all and wasn't embracing Sony whatsoever. You made a Sony game coming to PC about folks shitting on Xbox. Just more of what you would call "stealth trolling".

"It was a question..a valid one as some fans liked it some didnt."

lol...please. You are putting a shit-ton of lipstick on a pig and calling it Ariana Grande. That lie isn't flying here. Keep trying to sell it all you want. I know bullshit when I see it. And trying to say my comment here was "stealth trolling" and yours there was not.....yeah, that's bullshit.

"And I'm glad you like MS the company, but...."

lol....dude just stop. In your very last post you said "you don't like the company". So yeah, pointing out ways I do "like the company" is very relevant. And at no point does any of this rise to the level of "hate". That is asinine.

[thesoftware730]

Ok, lol.

I see you are guided by you delusion.

I will end it here and save us both some time until the next time lmao

I do have one question, is there anything MS can do gaming wise that would make you buy their systems?, and besides Bethesda's games, do you play any MS develop 1st party games any exclusives?

[RazzerRedux]

"I see you are guided by you delusion."

Nope. I see quite clearly.

"I do have one question, is there anything MS can do gaming wise that would make you buy their systems?"

Probably not. I'd need a compelling reason to invest in additional hardware when my current setup can play every game they offer and generally provide a superior experience.

", and besides Bethesda's games, do you play any MS develop 1st party games any exclusives?"

Forza Horizon is my favorite racing game by far. Outside of that, their offering is pretty dry unless you are a Gears fan. I enjoyed Outer Worlds, but that's about it. I may give Flight Simulator a try at some point. Other than that, I'm in wait mode for Perfect Dark, Fable, Avowed, and possibly Halo.

[waverider]

There are here more xbox gamers talking about sony then about the news. because they think this will change something... Damn, they never ever learn... What will they do if any of those games comes to Sony? Big loss? Only for Microsfoft that wiill lose billions each year because none of those games is on Playstation. Because the marketshare of microsoft is low and gamepass is cheap.

[NeoGamer232]

Last I checked MS is not hurting in any way financially.

[waverider]

Its not growing their marketshare. Are selling much less games and consoles then the rivals. Are going more and more services and its a matter of time until they are a big 3rd party studio.

[Tedakin]

Dude, the marketshare of MS is 80%. Sony's is under 20. You don't even know what you're talking about. MS supports a console, Windows, Steam and mobile. Sony supports the PS alone.

[waverider]

Omg... Dude You dont know anything You are talking about. Just crazy the lack of knowledge... 80% 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[neomahi]

Good for Microsoft. I, personally, am not a fan of most of the studios acquired by Microsoft. I was never really an Elder Scrolls fan myself. Id Software is a big purchase for them if Carmack stays in the driver seat with his co-founder but if they leave, Id is just gonna be a shadow of its former self. Tango isnt too big of a deal, but thats the home of Resident Evil founder who no longer has to worry about cutting his head off developing a Resident Evil game for PlayStation, he now answers only to Xbox, though, he hasnt really developed much of anything.

At the end of the day, as a PlayStation fan, I dont really care, nothing from ZeniMax really ever appealed to me so its not loss but to other PlayStation fans that were a fan of these, get ready to buy an Xbox One, or Series X, or just play it on PC. Expected, we pretty well knew all along but, rhe scary thing is just that, its Microsofts heavy hand and influence over studios that kills them. Creative Directors leave left and right following Xbox acquiring them and move on to other places, such as Rod Ferguson who left The Coalition, he was top man getting paid Microsoft money who ditched his baby and went to Activision to work for Blizzard after Gears 4. He was the man to finally call fhe shots and make the decisions and he quickly turned it down.

[Julion0715]

Kool story bro

[FGHFGHFGH]

Carmack works for Oculus VR. (Facebook)

[Kurt Russell]

Rod Ferguson may have left The Coalition after Gears 4... but that wasn't a bad thing. They then went on to make the much better Gears 5.

[Obscure_Observer]

Congratulations Phil Spencer!

The future looks bright than ever!

[TheEroica]

Congrats Microsoft! From all the Sony fans who would be celebrating if it were them.

[StoneyYoshi]

https://memegenerator.net/i...

[rlow1]

The days of saying MS has no games is coming to an end......Finally!!! If they can't find some winners with 23 studios in their belt. Then something went majorly wrong. Looking forward to see what is cooking in the pot.

[stonecold3]

Microsoft can have them they only made a game that appeal to me other then that there games aren’t nowhere near the quality of Sony games since Sony has the best developer in the world naught dog Santa Monica studio. I do think Sony will acquire square enix soon can’t wait

[Father__Merrin]

Elder scrolls
Fallout
Rage
Prey
Dishonered
Doom
Wolfensttein
Evil within
Quake

These are the games they have acquired

The only eqlusives are likely

Quake
Evil within
Prey
Wolfenstien

[Orchard]

Source?

[Father__Merrin]

https://www.zenimax.com/lib...

[Orchard]

I can't find anything on there about which ones are exclusives.

[jznrpg]

Only interested in Fallout and ES . The games below them I only bought in the bargain bin . The quality of Fallout and ES has gone down since Morrowind And Fallout NV. New Vegas was great besides being a bugfest 3 was a decent game but not as good as New Vegas. 4 was disappointing it was just Fallout 3 with slightly updated graphics and the stupid base building I hated . Not sure they bring a better product but continue watering down their games as they have over time for ‘mass consumption . I hope they make a great ES like Morrowind and not a watered down game like Skyrim but I think they chase the more casual crowd and continue the handholding games after Morrowind

[Orchard]

This is huge. Easily the biggest move in the history of the industry.

Congratulations Microsoft & Xbox, and more so - congrats gamers! Lots of good content to look forward to in the future.

[Knightofelemia]

Only time will tell how this will all play out

[DOMination-]

I'm literally pumping the air right now. Go team Green baby! Now to get the Sega deal wrapped up, Ubi on GamePass and 2021 will be have set the foundations for future dominance. Just wait until E3 2022 folks!

[NeoGamer232]

I don't know why anyone would be cheering for any company.

We are gamers first. Companies mean nothing to true gamers. Great games mean everything.

[kindi_boy]

Not on N4G though.

[FanboysKiller]

Much better being this way cause with their talented team and their crafted work of Art , relatively speaking, they don't sell much , there is no doubt that they deserve much more support.

[UltimateRacer]

🤮🤮🤮 that’s all that can be said about this trash.

[aragon]

lol 😂

[Dirty_Lemons]

I look forward to playing them on PC whilst also enjoying some of the PlayStation exclusives on PS5. Gamers should unite, we have a common passion. Who gives a shit how we choose to game.

[GameZenith]

As if a million Sony/PS5 fans was crying and then suddenly silenced....

[iplay1up2]

Look I am happy with my Series X! If Microsoft wants to sell more consoles, and make larger profits this is how to do it.

This acquisition is partly why I went with Series X. Also Obsidian and all the other Studios Microsoft picked up.

In the next year Xbox should have some great new content.

[Shiore2u]

Just even less reason to own either console, which is great.

[blacktiger]

patent hoarder is about to jump into copyright hoarder

[LM1213]

good for xbox. really. but truthfully I can't think of a single bethesda game I have played that I would lose sleep over if I couldn't play.
but congrats to them. if I get interested enough I have a pretty beefy pc that could handle it. but doubt I would go through the trouble

[aragon]

I honestly only play Skyrim lol but they are a good addition zenimax to Xbox studios whether or not gamers like it . How would this be if another company had purchased zenimax? I can tell u that there would be a huge party like Mardi Gras online if Sony made this acquisition. I doubt they are gonna make existing franchises exclusively for Xbox . I just want the proper sequel to Skyrim on my ps or Xbox.

[LM1213]

skyrim was pretty good. but man was that thing buggy. you're right it's a good aquisition

[Lexreborn2]

I really hope this deal is great for these games. Personally, bethesda has been a hit or miss. I love evil within and doom games. But I’ve never been able to get into fallout, dishonored or elder scroll games. I always felt like they could shine more if those games were focused end polished for me. Either way look forward to how things work out this might be good.

[nibblo]

A lot a people here care about letting us know they don't care lol

[zero_jp]

This is going to be interesting. Because Xbox fans want the next Fallout, the next Elder Scrolls, and Starfield to be exclusive. They feel that after they had to endure the barren Xbox One years that their support should be rewarded.

The question is will Microsoft be willing to risk the loss in PlayStation revenue in order to see how many people they can bring into their ecosystem with a new console or game pass ultimate purchase in order to play those games?

I just don’t believe they will. I mean I’d love to see it just because that be megaton news and a hell of a bet on themselves that they’d be able to will people over to their camp for those games.

However it just seems unfathomable. More than likely it will be smaller tittles or new I.P. that are exclusives. What do you think?

[goldwyncq]

The PC/Mobile market is much larger than the Playstation market so it'd be no big loss to them really

[kindi_boy]

I can't disagree more, it's exclusives and Gamepass that is going to going to start making dent in Sony's dominance. Microsoft are taking this for the long haul no sane person makes a $7.5B to make a quick buck next day.

[Yusi-D-Jordan]

Anyone who thinks Bethesda under Microsoft's guidance wouldn't release Fallout or The Elder Scrolls on Playstation is fooling themselves.

Fallout 3, 4, Skyrim and Oblivion made insane amounts of money on Playstation consoles, and they are being developed for a PC framework, so there's no home console development advantage here.

[aragon]

Those are gonna stay multiplatform for sure they the established money makers

[Binarycode]

Couldn't careless tbh.

Garbage games.

[Positivelypositive]

Oh no! Now Bethesda games will be.... windows store exclusives!!! GGAHHH!! !RUN!!!

[mastershredder]

Meh whatever, pretty much every Bethesda game fells and plays the same these days. Sometimes I forget which series I'm playing. Stale with a capitol S. Can't wait to see the displacement caused by the acquisition. Always happens.

[Master of Unlocking]

It's not right what Microsoft did right there. Regardless of what they can afford to do, it's not right to deprive millions of consumers of the games that the publisher and its development studios used to put out for various systems.
And I'm still not sold on Gamepass, Microsoft.

[Tedakin]

Bethesda agreed to be bought out and everything that's happening here. It's not just MS.

Also, would you feel the same if Sony had bought Bethesda?

[Saijahn]

Biggest deal in video game history. Can't wait to see the breakdown of what's going to be exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem vs what isn't.

What a time to be an Xbox gamer

[Tedakin]

If only I could find a Series X.... :(

[DivineHand125]

Maybe this acquisition will be beneficial for bathesda games as some of their recent releases has had micro transactions sneaking in. With Microsoft as their publisher, maybe the developers won't be as pressured to add it to their games. Time will tell though.

[waverider]

So where is the news with Phil spencer saying that bethesda games will be on playstation? That only in the future some will be only on xbox and pc? Everybody is already talking about that. Only blind followers would ever think it wouldnt happend.

[moriarty1889]

23 studios is a lot. MS definitely fixed that issue with all the acquisitions. Now let’s see what they put out.

[Bender6502]

Firstly, I gotta say this. $7.5 Billion for any S/W company is obscene. With the world the way it is, no company should be spending this amount on toys! There, said it. Okay then, if you are an Xbox, or PC gamer, why the hell are you on here arguing a toss over whether the games are gonna be exclusive. You already know you will be getting the best versions of future Bethesda games that's a certainty. As a series X owner I'm happy in that knowledge. However, I do hope MS allows new games on other platforms, not because of the revenue- which clearly isn't a requirement, but because MS is always touting they want everyone to be able to play anywhere, on any device. And further, Sony aren't even the main rivals to MS anymore, that's Apple, Google and Amazon moving forward. And last, but not least, I say as a gamer, good games should be enjoyed by all.

Now a prediction that I'll likely get hammered for, but I've said this before and I'll say it again. Do not be surprised if 'collaborations' between Nintendo,Sony and MS become more common over this, and especially, next generation.

[itsmebryan]

@Espangerish
Not really it would be better to have just a PC since PS and Xbox "exclusives " are coming to PC. But, if you also want a console the XSX is a much better choice. It has it has RNA 2 not RNA 1.1 like the PS5 that allows more performance from the chip, game pass which is the best deal in gaming the works on PC, console, and mobile, plus a larger hard-drive with a simple proven way to expand storage. You get all of that for only $34.99 a month (really like $37 with tax) . Less not forget the backwards compatibility that includes not just games but, hardware. That make my old Xbox one controller work along with $700+ Thrustmaster wheel setup.

The XSX is a much better choice if you can find one

[dcbronco]

Bethesda physical disc will be exclusively available on Xbox and PC. Game Pass will become available on all other platforms. If others want Bethesda games they will have to use Game Pass. Game Pass will be available through browsers.