Hitman 3 on Series X has a resolution advantage over PS5

The brilliant Hitman 3 from IO Interactive is here, an ambitious cross-platform project that sees the firm's proprietary Glacier Engine deployed to more target platforms on launch day than we've seen in previous series entries. We'll be taking a closer look at this latest iteration of the engine in more depth soon, examining the enhancements made to the technology and how they play out in Hitman 3's new levels - as well as the legacy missions from the two prior titles, which are all playable within the new game.

[hduce]

This is what I was expecting with the game comparisons when the two systems launched.

[Gazondaily]

It was bound to happen and expect it to happen more going forward

[RazzerRedux]

Or not. Very well could see a back and forth between the two systems. Even here, XSX has the overall advantage but there are still pros and cons.

[Shiken]

@RazzerRedux

The only con is a minor spot where it has a few dropped frames. It is mostly locked at 60 fps. The pros are higher resolution (native 4k vs 1800p) and higher graphical settings for the shadows. I would say it is a pretty clear cut victory for Series X.

[RazzerRedux]

@Shiken

And PS5 has no drops at all. I plainly said XSX has the overall advantage. In other games, PS5 has had similar advantages. This is a win for XSX, yes. Is it a definitive win? No.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

"It was bound to happen and expect it to happen more going forward"

And if it doesn't? You guys were so sure that not only would the power gap be HUGE that it would happen right out of the gate. So far neither has been true.

Guess we'll know which system has the edge based on your presence around here. Was nowhere to be seen until now, shocker.

[DarXyde]

Certainly, it has been a long-held expectation. I think the benefits of one over the other will fundamentally come down to game design (i.e., if a game is built with certain priorities in mind, one will outshine the other).

[hanuman2]

@RazzerRedux; They have THE SAME F'ing architecture and one has less compute power than the other, GET OVER IT!

[seanpitt23]

So that’s ps5 SEVEN points Xbox SX ONE point and this game wasn’t a perfect win for the Xbox I am sure ps5 could of run this at native 4K and lose a couple of frames like the xbsx does but the ps5 is flawless in performance

[RazzerRedux]

@hanuman2

Not entirely, no. PS5 has more custom elements than XSX like Geometry Engine and AMD specific tech like SmartShift. XSX is more stock RDNA 2.0 with less customizations outside of the segmented memory configuration. PS5 has faster clock speeds that increase frequency beyond just the CU. There is a lot of difference between these APUs so if you want to hang your hat on teraflops entirely, please do, but there is a reason why we wait for benchmarks like these and do NOT depend entirely on the results of ONE game.

Gazondaily may very well be right and this is what we see as the norm going forward. But after all the games we have seen so far, are we really going to depend that it all just came down to Hitman 3? Please.

[Software_Lover]

I personally do not care either way. A game with a slightly better resolution on ps5 will not stop my enjoyment of it if I buy it on XSX (when I get one). A game with a slightly better resolution on XSX will not stop my enjoyment of it if I buy it on the PS5.

The only thing people should be concerned with these days are crashes, terrible bugs, corrupt saves, etc. If a game has too many of these issues on one console then avoid that version.

[Babadook7]

PS5 pushes 30% less pixels but enjoys 20% higher (and more stable) performance when tested.

[Neonridr]

@RazzerRedux - you don't think if the SX was running @ 1800p there would be zero dips at all?

[RazzerRedux]

"@RazzerRedux - you don't think if the SX was running @ 1800p there would be zero dips at all?"

My guess is the two would perform exactly the same. In the same vein, if the PS5 version were running native 4K then I expect there would be more drops.

And we have already seen issues patched from previous games that brought the versions closer together, that could certainly be the case here as well.

[TheProblem]

Notice how eurogamer proudly display the series X advantage in the title

Whenever PS5 has the advantage. You’d never know from the title. It would be buried somewhere in the article.

I’ll wait for nx gamers comparison though

[StoneyYoshi]

I was thinking this when I saw the youtube title. They always treaded lightly whenever the ps5 had an advantage but maybe since this is a clear difference with resolution it makes it ok I guess?

[JEECE]

This shouldn't be a surprise. When PS3 ports didn't run as well as the 360 versions or had weird textures, it was a huge story, but when XONE ports ran worse or had lower resolution than the PS4 versions, you were a "console warrior" if you mentioned it.

[Benficaman]

thats exactly what i thought.

[Donnie81]

Just stop digital foundry covers for the ps5 every video. Just look at destiny 2 the conveniently forget to mention the ps5 frequently drops to 1440p and has way too much aa they totally act like less than a quarter a FPS is just game changing. Go to Cold War they totally just lump the resolutions of the games together and neglect to mention the series x has a major advantage there. Oh but instead of updating the video they correct any “mistake “ they make on Twitter. If the series x has a win they almost never say it but if the ps5 had any advantage they spent half the video going on about it

[Atticus_finch]

Damn, they make their bias really obvious.

[oof46]

Oh, Jesus Christ...just stop. If they say anything positive about Sony, Xbots get mad. If they say anything positive about Xbox, the ponies get riled up. It's a never ending cycle.

[Kavorklestein]

I think it's because they have a hard time believing the PS5's "wins" on other games are because of any real advantage. They are probably well aware that it is more than likely due to sloppy development and/or learning curves to adjust to with these new machines.
Also, Maybe another part of them "loudly" saying Series X had and advantage, is because this is the first time we've seen such a large gap/advantage between machines?
Not a conspiracy really, as they have clearly and loudly said PS5 has better next gen only software and that includes new Ui's, and next gen only launch titles they have also said every Ps5 owner is lucky to have Astro make such a strong case for the adaptive triggers.
Not a bad situation.
People need to relax and quit getting tinfoil hats about every damn thing.
Maybe it's them just calling it like they see it.

[Profchaos]

Yeah they don't bite the hand that feeds them.

To some extent I often wonder if it's just because that's a more clickbaity headline that gets viewers but then again they get private tours of Redmond regularly and had a series s for some time with inside knowledge that it existed

[dantesparda]

I would rather have 3200x1800 with a better framerate (PS5), then the 4k with a worst frame rate. And its about time the XsX supposedly wins one, cuz i dont think the higher res is a win.

And p.s. this games engine just seems to favor MS's API.

[porkChop]

The framerate is locked 60 for both. The SX only dips in one area of one level. Why would you take lower resolution and lower quality shadows 100% of the time?

[Shiken]

@porkChop

Because he is damage controlling.

[iplay1up2]

Spoken like a true fanboy. I am getting a PS5, but right now I am VERY happy with my Series X. 85 games already optimized for it. Games that are not optimized, for PS5, and also GAMES I HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLAYING. Sony wants $ ASAP.

Microsoft, smart delivery is a great addition to a console. Quick resume, is to. Being able to switch between games in seconds, and being right where you left off, is also a great addition. It is nice to switch back and forth between games in seconds is nice.

[DJStotty]

@dantesparda

Wow, the denial and salt is huge with this one, so you prefer a lower resolution? But looking at your comment history you look like an advocate for a higher resolution the amount of times you have slated the Series S and X performance, eating a bit of crow now, probably why you are shunning the clear fact that the Series X has an advantage over the PS5, denting your justification for your initial purchase.

It's ok, i have a few jugs empty to collect all these salty tears today.

[chiefJohn117]

That damage control

[gravedigger]

@Iplay

"85 games already optimized for it. Games that are not optimized, for PS5, and also GAMES I HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLAYING. Sony wants $ ASAP. "

You mean 85 optimized backward compatibility games on XSX

[Babadook7]

A valid point. DF doesn't test the entire game either, so there could be even worse areas later on. PS5 has the FPS advantage here and looking at the big picture its obvious Series X is going to be hard pressed winning a head to head with no caveats.

[dantesparda]

Wow, I see I triggered alot of MS fanboys with my opinion but sorry kids, but i prefer framerate over all, period!
Now go back to playing your beloved piece of plastic and off my dick.

And I own all the systems, PS5, XsX, Switch & PC, heck I still have my X1 as I havent been able to sell it yet. And p.s. i really dont give 2 sh1ts about the shadows.

[slavish0]

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[CaptainHenry916]

It's a cross gen game though and the Series X and PS5 don't look that much different at all. I can't even tell. I'm curious about the load times on all versions ⏲️

[Om4ever]

I heard that it was a 0,5 sec advantage for PS5

[CaptainHenry916]

What about the Series S loadtime?

[darthv72]

Watch the video to know the load times.

[chiefJohn117]

Hold the L homie

[Silly gameAr]

This is what a lot of people were expecting, but those same people were weirdly quiet when it didn't go the way they had hoped it would.

[Kavorklestein]

So you think its bad the people were Quietly waiting for good examples of skilled developers to comment about the expected power advantage.
You would rather have seen people Incessantly whining about gfx for each game and say "Xbox should have been better wtf is going on? Fuck this game fuck Sony" etc.. etc.. you would have preferred that?

[Jin_Sakai]

“Hitman 3 on Series X has a resolution advantage over PS5“

And Hitman 3 on PS5 has a framerate advantage over Series X.

https://i.ibb.co/VCCbQRt/su...

[lifeisgamesok]

Expect resolution to matter again when some were fine playing at 720P and 900P for 4 years until the X1X

[phoenixwing]

hopefully they won't act like it matters until a few more games have better resolution or they could eat crow again

[AngelicIceDiamond]

The whole resolution thing only mattered to MS. Before the 1X released hardly anyone was talking about resolution because both machines were performing identically for the most part. Once the 1X was announced then the whole RES argument started again and of course Xbox fanboys got all riled up.

As far as I'm concern it was PS fanboys who started the resolution nonsense anyway. Creating hash tags #don'tgimpPS4. So if course years later Xbox fanboys are gonna troll back once they have a stronger mid gen console.

You gotta know your history in who started this nonsense in the first place.

[RazzerRedux]

This wasn't "started" last gen at all. This has been going long before that. I remember when folks were talking about sprite sizes back in the Genesis and SNES days. It is never ending. And frankly, I'm fine with that. Makes the whole industry better in a lot of ways and always pushing forward. Either way, I don't get how anyone can point a finger and say "they started it".

[oof46]

@RazzerRedux: I remember all the arguing and finger pointing at the differences between Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II on the SNES/Genesis.

[Neonridr]

the start of the PS4 / XB1 gen resolution articles were everywhere. Not sure where you were Angelic.

[XbladeTeddy]

Yeah but we can't be stuck at those resolutions forever. 4K is beautiful on the eyes and is a good step forward visually. As long as they give gamers options of having 4k at a lower FPS rate or having 1080p at a higher FPS rate I'm good with it.

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[DiRtY]

And shadow quality is also better on Xbox Series X.

[CaptainHenry916]

Finally Microsoft gets a W.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Ms cheated! 😂🤣😋

[CaptainHenry916]

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do 😂🤷‍♂️

[generic-user-name]

But VR is better on PS4/5.

[lifeisgamesok]

These consoles will still remain very close in performance

[RazzerRedux]

That is what I think as well. Right now, PS5 and XSX are just trading blows but neither is showing anything more than a marginal advantage in most cases.

[shabz666]

Even though the series x has a clear advantage here with the native 4k resolution and higher equality shadows , it honestly such a waste of its power and resources to go full 4k like this. I’m seriously hoping both ms and Sony are working with amd to get some sort of high quality dlss like solution going forward this gen. The series x vrs and deep learning tech and Sony evolving its checkerboard techniques is the only way we can have 60fps at higher resolutions.

[RaidenBlack]

@Razzer
you didn't come up with a gist of the DF analysis this time?

[RazzerRedux]

@RaidenBlack

I don't when there is already an article explaining everything. The summary is for when there is only a video that not everyone may want to sit through.

[phoenixwing]

but does it toast my chicken like the kfc console that is coming?

[Nuvem]

No, but it toasts whoever buys it.

[DJStotty]

No, but you can store your KFC in the fridge.

[jairusmonillas]

DF is not reliable though. They were exposed by NX gamer comparison videos showing fake advantages for Series X.

[Om4ever]

DF praised the PS5 a lot more than the xsx recently. Now it's time for the xsx... What's wrong with that ?

[gravedigger]

Did DF made some clickbait article or video for PS5 like this one with Hitman 3 for XSX? I guess not

[StoneyYoshi]

"DF praised the PS5 a lot more than the xsx recently"

Yes but have they ever put the PS5 advantage in the name of the video title? Not a singe time. But Once XSX gets the advantage they start adding it to the titles? 🤔

Honestly, I really don't care that they did but I just find it interesting how they have never done that in any DF videos comparing the new systems games. Please correct me with a link if I am wrong about this.

[Orchard]

After years of PS4 DF videos being shared... all of a sudden they are not reliable?

[Tacoboto]

What fake advantages did DF suggest exist?

Even in DF's Fallen Order patch analysis they continue pointing out areas of PS5's better performance.

[RazzerRedux]

I agree. DF has always been very even-handed in their analysis from my perspective. I've read claims from both Xbox and PS fans that DF favors the other. That is about as good an endorsement of their neutrality as anything.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

The X Series is the stronger console after all its to be expected.

I dunno why you're mad.

[russo121]

He's not mad, just surprised why just now? It's stronger but has an hard time to make it evident, the question remains - is it really more powerful?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@russo Naww he's mad or else he suddenly wouldn't be questioning DF.

It's been reported for awhile that MS was behind in its GDK. Supposedly waiting for the full RDNA2 support.

PS5 is using the the same tools and techniques as the PS4 except with PS5 in mind. Devs are able to utilize the PS5 in similar fashion as the PS4.

As more games released itll continue to be a toss up for either console imo. Just don't be surprised or angry if Xbox does have better performance in some games.

[mkis007]

Gross simplification insinuating there isn't anything new to take advantage of in the ps5.

[StoneyYoshi]

Yeah keep acting as if tools for PS5 wont improve just like these "delayed tools" that MS has. 🙄

"PS5 is using the the same tools and techniques as the PS4 except with PS5 in mind."

This allowed simple transitions from last gen to this gen. Sony's tools WILL improve just like MS tools will.

[Destiny1080]

I've always given digital foundry the benefit of the doubt but there's something not quite right here

they talk about how resolution usually doesn't matter, but for this game, it suddenly really matters

why know, why this game, why the headline

i actually think NX gamer does a great job and a lot of the time i prefer him over digital foundry

[Tacoboto]

What doubt has there been with DF? Surely someone who is suspicious of them can give even just one specific example.

You'd know the answer to your own questions if you actually watched DF, because they contextualize what they mean and intend very well, especially resolution and all the forms that make it matter differently (native, DRS, DLSS, TAA techniques, they cover the gamut)

[VariantAEC]

Exactly
DF just did a video comparing PS5 to PC regarding CoD BlOps3 and was talking about PS5 punching above its weight only because it was using quarter res particle effects and dynamic resolution (except it wasn't using dynamic resolution in the real time cine Alex used to bench the game which he did mention) then he sang the praises of DLSS despite an RTX 2070 Super barely edging out PS5 performance wise with barely noticeably higher graphics settings only if you were to analyze each frame for minutes at a time.

Come on DF keep consistent!
They don't. Additionally they also mentioned in that video that different stages use different graphics settings which I don't believe they mentioned the first time around. Will they notice that when they circle back to Hitman III realizing that Hitman III was showing small bugs? Probably not, but then why not even say that it could be a bug?

Again there's not a massive difference in the performance between PS5 and XSX. Between last gen and now there's smaller differences than there were before so why would DF act as if any PS5 advantage is an XSX bug and not the other way around? I understand shadows are expensive but they've never been that expensive.
The jump in rendering higher shadow map resolution is very expensive so having a higher output resolution as well is unlikely but PS5 having 60FPS and high shadows at 1800p is likely possible. Regardless this is a really bizarre one considering PS4 and Pro dominate last gen and PS5 SKUs outperform XSS in nearly all aspects as well. XSX is the cream of the crop on consoles visually speaking, but with imperfect performance.

Also note the lack of any mention of that imperfect performance on Xbox Series X in the title? So any advantages for Xbox are huge news and another nail on PlayStation's coffin but the inverse are bugs or clearly things that will likely be ironed out by MS at a later date... but DF aren't biased.

I made a few videos about Tomb Raider on Shield and how I think Switch will perform hardware wise. Notice how DF doesn't make many Switch videos anymore? I directed these at DF and I can't say they've looked at them, but they've cooled their Switch hype considerably since and have compared Switch less to PS4/XO (which it is nothing like power wise) than PS3/X360 (which it it is most like power wise).

[VariantAEC]

@Tacoboto
Tomb Raider DE
PS4/XO 2013
Digital Foundry basically said it was inferior to the PC version. I can say it isn't from my own personal experience with the PS4 version and PC version S well as PS3 and Nvidia Shield version.
I made several videos about it, but I only uploaded the PS3 vs Shield and PC vs if memory serves (It was a mixed up project and the PC version [Steam] corrupted my savegame file - fun times, PC gaming for the win, am I right?). Search "Zipline of Truth" on YT Shield TV doesn't even process as much geometry as PS3 and its using the Tegra X1 same as Switch. Recall the new and improved X1 in the more efficient Switch doesn't offer more power just more computational power afforded to gaming just more powersavings. This is the problem.

Even though PS3 had 256MB of VRAM it was able to draw in more geometry than the Nvidia Shield TV and in many cases - though clearly not all - many ports of older games to Nintendo Switch and that also extends to things like textures and normal maps despite PS3 also having less processing power. How is is that possible if PS3 is weaker than Switch?
GRID Autosport and Minecraft also run better on Switch than on PS3/X360 though MC was deprecated and on Switch it is the Bedrock Edition which is running about as well as on phones and GRID Autosport actually looks and runs better on phones too. GRID Autosport really runs like crap on old PCs. Code Masters was overrated looking back (before their recent EA acquisition - hopefully things don't get worse for them)! Seriously how does GA manage to run better in emulation on a phone? Well, whatever thank you Feral Interactive!

[DJStotty]

Just like VGchartz?

Websites are only reliable when it favours PS.

[Tacoboto]

Xbox Series X finally has an advantage on something.

1800p med shadows PS5, 4K high shadows XSX, 1080p low shadows XSS. Basically-flawless 60fps across the board with one minor dip on Xbox in a portion of one level.

Interesting if this difference will be the standard going forward. This seems to closely match the spec difference of the higher end machines. Even if I had an XSX, I'd gladly take the negligible "worse" PS5 version just for the extra immersion from the controller.

[mkis007]

VR version too. Wasn't even a question for me who has both consoles.

[derek]

This will not be the standard going forward.

[CrimsonWing69]

Oh boy, here we go.

[preciousdeath]

XSX - 2160P (4K), very stable 60FPS, High shadow quality
XSS - 1080P, very stable 60FPS, Low shadow quality
PS5 - 1800P, flawless 60FPS, Medium shadow quality, slightly faster load times

It must be noted the shadow quality difference is not very significant. The frame drops for XS consoles only happened on rare occasions or when is specific areas. PS5 didn't drop at all in these areas. They also referred to this as a cross-gen game, which it is. I'm curious why they didn't expand on this. I think game is relying on X1X/PS4pro enhancements with slight tweaks and that is why we see a resolution difference. So chalk this one up with an asterisk in my opinion. I do think we will see more XSX games take a slight lead as we move away from games also developed for X1 and PS4. That slight lead remains to be seen, but we probably won't see a significant difference in reality vs. on paper.

[gamer7804]

Yah it takes time but over time the xsx should continue the advantage in pretty much everything except a second or two in load times when it comes to hardware.

[mkis007]

Wait until a non-cross gen game comes to both before speaking about loading...

[gamer7804]

@mkis would the ps5 become slower at loading then? I don’t think so. It will load games faster then as well .

[TheProblem]

You know. I was thinking the exact same thing about them using the PS4 pro/one x versions.

The first next gen test will be resident evil 8

[generic-user-name]

There's rumours that RE8 may yet be a cross gen game or that it was once a PS4/X1 title before changing to current gen only, if either are true you can expect last gen DNA still in there.

[neutralgamer1992]

I am sure sony will lose sleep over this and I am sure ms will be very happy selling less but having better graphics. I mean come on man are we still in ps3/xbox360 days. You like ps5 enjoy it and if you like XSX enjoy it

These sites and youtube channels are the reason fanboys console war will never end.

[Tacoboto]

Digital Foundry report their findings if severe enough to developers before they upload the videos to YouTube. These comparisons hold developers accountable for discrepancies between versions (Dirt and AC Valhalla are perfect recent examples) and give consumers more information about products they're interested in.

I'm sure CDPR would agree with you, at least :)

[DEEBO]

But playstation has VR...

[Orchard]

Have you tried it? It's terrible. Uses DualShock instead of motion controllers... aiming is terrible... and it requires you to download & install the PS4 version alongside PS5.

[ApocalypseShadow]

The question would be is if YOU tried it? Others says it's great even with a few issues with the wire. Which can be updated. So it doesn't have motion control. RE7 didn't. And It's one of the best PSVR games years later. Astrobot doesn't. And it also is one of the best games on the platform. Among other games that only use the controller. Obviously VR works with a controller as Microsoft even offered a controller for Oculus and Vive to use their controller.

His point above still stands. PlayStation has VR. The other console doesn't. PS5 doesn't have VR... YET...but you can still use PSVR. So, why would there be a PS5 VR game where there's no PS5 headset? PS4 has VR.

Know what you are talking about if you are not using VR.

[Orchard]

@ApocalypseShadow I have played it. Which part of what I wrote is incorrect?

Uses DualShock - true
Aiming is bad - true
Requires you to install PS4 + PS5 versions - true

It's not my fault that PSVR doesn't exist (natively) on PS5. It's illogical that I need to install two versions of the game (on a console with no expandable storage...)

[DEEBO]

My kid says it's the best way to play it.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Gamers nitpicking over small differences over two versions that aren't that different.

But the big difference is that PSVR owners have an option to play it with more immersion. Who cares about a 1 or 2 frame rate difference in some areas on one console and in other areas, the other console dips.

VR is on one. VR is not on the other. That's a big deference.

Hitman VR is PS4. TRUE.
PS5 has no VR games. TRUE.
Playing VR with a controller is fine and works in multiple games. TRUE.

I can come up with a true list as well. Over 4 years, you should know why some developers might pick DS4 over Move Controllers. It was also a small team. You want Move, give the developer money, staff and time so that they can do that. The company gives you a VR option for free and you complain it doesn't use a certain controller. Don't like it, play it in VR on Xbox or PC. Oh wait....

[Orchard]

@ApocalypseShadow You speak like VR is a huge selling point. PSVR sold ~5m with ~100m+ PS4's in the wild. Most gamers care more about visuals/framerate/res than VR.

Again though, it's crazy that I need to install two versions of the game on PS5 just to play VR.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Yeah it is that you have to install both on PS5.

It's also crazy to be ungrateful when IO gives you something knowing that there's just a small install base of VR owners as a free bonus. Not just one game. You can play the whole trilogy of missions in VR.They didn't have to do it at all.

You know that PSVR is a thrown together experiment using tech from PS3. It's amazing that PS4 has VR at all. Holding its own obviously because it still gets unrealistically compared to modern headsets.

We all know first gen VR on console isn't perfect. We all know PC has evolved since then when it wasn't perfect there either. But is an open platform to move forward faster. We also know Sony wants to start fresh for next gen leaving old tech and tracking behind.

If it's not good enough for you, SELL IT. Complaining about the headset's lack of current advances when you know it's old tech is foolish. Complaining about a free mode that has a DS4 control scheme is also foolish. First World problems you can easily solve by not playing it.

[generic-user-name]

"Uses DualShock instead of motion controllers"

Which means we have an analogue stick for movement instead of buttons, that's a win, plus the DS4 has motion control functionality, that's why it has the light bar on top.

"aiming is terrible"

The poor craftsman blames his tools.

"and it requires you to download & install the PS4 version alongside PS5."

You are not required to have the PS5 version installed to play the game in VR.

"You speak like VR is a huge selling point. PSVR sold ~5m with ~100m+ PS4's in the wild. Most gamers care more about visuals/framerate/res than VR."

As of last year, only 2% of Steam gamers played in 4k, so by your logic, who cares about 4k am I right?

[Neonridr]

@ApocalypseShadow - RE7 works fine with a controller but it didn't require you to aim with the controller holding out in front of you. No offense, but I'd rather just have a free motion head and standard controls rather than awkwardly holding my arms out with a controller in hand. I'm sad for the lack of move controllers, let's not try to sugar coat it. They opted for a weird control scheme.

@generic - I prefer to play at 1440p at very high frames. I have a 3080 so I could easily play at 4k/30fps if I wanted. I play at 1440p/144 fps instead.

[StoneyYoshi]

@ApocalypseShadow I have played it. Which part of what I wrote is incorrect?

Uses DualShock - true
Aiming is bad - true. ---- Ive watched Some live streams of this in VR and nobody I've watched was complaining about terrible aiming. So YMMV with that.
Requires you to install PS4 + PS5 versions - true

Sounds like a direct copy from the IGN review and anybody can do that. With all due respect... I don't think you played it. Care to share your PSN ID if you have really played it?

[spicelicka]

lol PSVR is pretty much a separate console. It's almost as much a PS5 itself. It doesn't affect this comparison in any way.

[Benficaman]

resolution yes, performance no

[Orchard]

"Put simply, it's 60 frames per second... with just one exception in our hours of play."

Sounds fine.

[Benficaman]

of course. you are right. its just a fact.
but ok, the Xbox /x its the better version, and thats also a fact.

[Destiny1080]

a small victory for xbox fans but what's up with the horrendous frame rate drops, not the first time we have seen this

[Orchard]

"Put simply, it's 60 frames per second... with just one exception in our hours of play."

Horrendous?

[Destiny1080]

the frame rate tanks every time he fires the sniper rifle, I've never seen anything as bad

ill give xbox the benefit of the doubt, but i have noticed it in a few games know

[BrettAwesome]

Not even PS fans like your kind of bullshit

[ReignMan_27]

So basically Hitman 3 on current gen:

Xbox SS is running a boosted version of the Xbox One S
Xbox SX is running a boosted version of the Xbox One X
PS5 is running a boosted version of the PS4 Pro

[Gamist2dot0]

What advantage? One is native 4k, the other performs 60fps flawlessly.

[Nd1vhu]

One runs at 4K narive and had 1 single instance of not being 60fps whilst having better quality shadows.
The other performs at 1800p throughout and no drops.

I'll take the 4K with 1 drop of I had the option. How that not an advantage?

[mkis007]

1 instance? He says every time a sniper is fired it drops...

[SierraGuy]

Frame drops are game breaking for me.

[CobraKai]

Why do they say the game runs flawlessly except for yada yada yada. Doesn’t the fact that there are exceptions mean that it’s not flawless? It’s like saying my car runs flawlessly except for when it vibrates uncontrollably at a traffic light.

[Nd1vhu]

Correction, your car runs flawlessly except it vibrated once for 2 seconds and it never did it again.

[CobraKai]

If only that were true.

[Donnie81]

Great to see developers starting to get better performance out of the series x.. Io has an advanced game engine and it’s making better use of rdna2. Seems like the game delivers on both systems though

[Father__Merrin]

It's a strange one they possibly lead developed on series x but you wouldn't notice unless zoomed in screen shots.

It's a nod to series x but in no way is it worth getting a series x over a ps5 for this one game

[B1uBurneR]

damn if Xbox has the advantage that means n4g people are going to attack digital foundry staff, I was looking to get into this series but after playing Jedi Fallen order.. I'm going to opt out of platform-ie games, puzzles, and games that have me running back and fourth on the same map. I'm going to try stealth with Metal Gears 5. Then decided if I want to enter hit man series on the series X.

[lazyboyblue]

An L is an L but I still prefer ps5.

[oof46]

And that is a perfectly fine, rational take.

[x_xavier_x]

One thing to note is that the load times for the PS5 version are only a fraction of a second faster than the Xbox Series X and S. Many people on N4G said that the PS5 would crush the Xbox Series X on load times but so far that doesn't seem to be the case, at least up to this point. The two competing consoles are very close in performance. We'll probably see some small advantages for each one on these multiplatform games.

[DJStotty]

Exaclty, do not hear half as much about the PS5 SSD speed now that there is comparison that can be done.

The majority of load times are more or less on parity with each other.

[mkis007]

That is because this is a cross gen game that was not built for ssd's as a baseline. This is a conitnuation of previous games. They didnt build a new engine. In order to take advantage of the ps5's, and even the xbox's ssds for that matter, you have to change the way you stream assets.

[883]

THANK YOU for logic!

[Thundercat77]

At least one game has a little advantage on Xbox. PS5 has been having a lot of games with better performance when on paper and according to a certain group, Xbox was supposed to be a superior system all the time by a large margin.

[DJStotty]

That is probably due to the well documented delay of the Series S|X SDK's

https://www.gsmarena.com/mi...

I fully expect the Series X once dev's fully utilize the tools available, to get better performance over the PS5.

[IRetrouk]

The sdks were not delayed, the dirt devs have stated this clearly, they had them early, and they were the most complete launch tools they had ever used..... need a reciept?

One cross gen game with a slight resolution and shadow detail bump but slightly worse framerate, and suddenly every game is gonna be better on xbox again🤔🤣

Didnt you learn anything from the last time you were saying this🤔

[DJStotty]

@iretrouk

Did you read the link i provided? Here is another one :-

https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

Please could you provide a link for Dirt devs stating they had dev kits earlier than everyone else please?

Another one where Dirt 5 devs said kits arrived late :-

https://www.gamespot.com/fo...

"Didnt you learn anything from the last time you were saying this"

When was i last saying this?

Are Series X's still running hot? or has that topic fizzled out as well?

[IRetrouk]

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

"Q: What is it like developing on Xbox Series X?

A: Transitioning development to a new console platform, like Xbox Series X, is usually very painful. You have to deal with new tools, new workflows, new ways of thinking.

This time around the team at Xbox brought me a new toolset called the Game Development Kit, which they already had up and running on Xbox One.

This meant that we could make the transition much earlier. In fact, we started doing the groundwork for Xbox Series X development long before we even received the hardware. This kind of thinking from Xbox allowed us to get a real head-start on next-gen development, so after receiving our early Xbox Series X hardware, we were up and running really quickly.

For me, the most important thing in making a videogame is the relationships. Working with Xbox, is a partnership – the team at Xbox is committed to helping us make a great videogame and they’ve shown that to me again and again. That means being open and honest about our experiences; what we’ve loved and perhaps even what we’ve found difficult in development has had meaningful, visible impact on the updates that I get for the tools for Series X. (Shout out to our development partner at Xbox, Richard Hackett! Thanks Rich!)

I’ve never worked on a console launch where, while we’re still months away from release, the tools have been this mature, this stable, this easy to work with."

So yeah, they got the tools earlier than the console, and supposedly they are the best launch tools ever🤷‍♂️

Did you not already claim xbox would run everything better from day 1? Or am I thinking of another xbox fan🤔 anyway, basing that claim on a slight resolution and shadow bump in one cross gen game is silly🤷‍♂️
Don't count your eggs before they have hatched, thats all im saying.

[ufo8mycat]

Annnd PC beats both.

Nitpicking between 2 consoles pretty much is pointless as the differences are minimal.

[potatoseal]

Differences are insignificant and I think we'll continue to see that throughout the gen. Both consoles with pros and cons. But the W goes to the Series X here and well done.

[SierraGuy]

Still couldn't pay me to own a series x.

I cant stand stuttering in games and series x has proven time and again massive stutters especially when entering large areas of open world games which are never exhibited on PS5.

[lazyboyblue]

I played Jedi fallen order on One X and the stuttering drove me mad. Apparently it's still there series X even with an official patch. Not on ps5 formats at all so I don't see why on Xbox it's such an issue.

[slavish0]

only a matter of time

[Hawk198666]

Slow clap....

[Games1st]

Not 8k unplayble

[Saranya]

Not surprised!

[Kilua]

Is Hitman 3 on ps5/series x running as a BC game i.e. are they running the ps4 pro vs xbox one x versions? or is this developed as a ps5 and series x title?

[SierraGuy]

Of course...its cross gen.

[Aussieguy]

Im pretty sure the ps5 is running in cruise control with this game. It doesnt even drop a frame and not sure why the devs didn't opt for a 4k mode also like with the xbox.

[DJStotty]

Maybe because the PS5 could not run at 4K whilst maintaining a locked 60fps?

That is the 1 and only reason why console versions have differences over the other.

[Aussieguy]

https://realsport101.com/mi...

Have you seen this ? The xbox 1 is a lot more powerful then the ps4 pro and yet the ps4 pro version is way better then the xbox 1x version.

Something isn't right from the developers of this game. The PS5 has outperformed all series X games so far and is capable of doing whatever the X can do and then the ps4 pro version is way better then the Xbox 1X version, doesnt make any sense.

[SmokinAces]

"Maybe", lol. You can always tell when someone is desperately making something up when they start with maybe.

[OB1Biker]

Wait. There is no talk about the PS5 tools ?
When most games have a PS5 better version it's usually the tools fault but one game with a better resolution on X it's (looks at article) 'additional hardware investment '
Okay

[IRetrouk]

Plenty of bullshit going round mate🤣

[PrinceOfAnger]

Lol!

[Deathdeliverer]

Personally I think it’s because it’s running a upgraded PS4 pro version. I’d be interested in seeing the Xbox one X version and PS4 Pro. If the One X too is 4k, we can easily deduce that it’s facing the same issue of Warzone and other backcompat games that take its route. It started off as a game for just last gen, it would have been too expensive to actually redo the code and make a true next gen version of it on PS5 so it’s cheaper to upgrade the Pro version. One X has higher ceilings than Pro and therefore would be easier to simply pretty up the Series X version of the One X version. This isn’t a next gen game, nor a next gen effort. Definitely a game I’ll get for my Series X, no doubt, but it’s kinda clear that the cross gen games aren’t really test of anything because the easiest routes are taken. In this case, it’s the One X to Series X route.

[DJStotty]

Of course it is a test, PS5 and Series X are still using there own IO architectures.

[RazzerRedux]

"Personally I think it’s because it’s running a upgraded PS4 pro version. "

Don't think so. The Pro version runs at 1440p/30 and has a 1080p/60 mode.

[DJStotty]

And so it begins, looks like devs are slowly utilizing the tech of the Series X. This will most probably happen more and more with 3rd party, and all those that were laughing at the Series X performance will slowly disappear.

Let the deny and deflect commence.

It is plain as day, the Series X has the superior version of Hitman 3.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

And if doesn't. . . I wonder how you'll cope. . . I don't remember you taking issue when people were laughing at the PS5 being 10.3 teraflops. . .

[SierraGuy]

Should have named it the 'stutter box' 🤣🤭

Even with updated patches ac valhalla still bottlenecks for some reason.

No thanks.

[BrettAwesome]

Laughable 😂 to think it makes headlines when "the world's most powerful console" actually pulls ahead. Weak...

[Battlestar23]

For those saying that their is only one instance where the frame-rate drops on the XSX look at the video at 9.13 when the sniper rifle is fired the frame-rate drops to around 55FPS but a few seconds later when fired again it drops to 41FPS. This doesn't happen on the PS5 as it maintains a flawless locked 60FPS.

[SierraGuy]

Stutter box series x.

Pretty catchy.

[KaraokeReviews]

Well good to see we are at it again but from the looks of it X series give maximum bang for the buck

[derek]

The analysis is fine, but that title is strangely celebratory when compared to videos where the ps5 has a clear advantage. If you dont want to be called fanboys DF, then be equal across the board. When the next cross game comparison is released and its better on the PS5, will they put a similar tag on the video? I doubt it.

[Vanfernal]

If I had to choose between slightly higher resolution or VR, haptic feedback and Tempest 3D audio...

[Whitey2k]

If ps5 was 4k and series x was 1800p DF would be over this like a crap on stick then say its either the tools or a glitch n needs patching. So my guess is y aint they doing this for the ps5 version. Considering ive seen more games using more deltas then this and the same resolution and textures as to series x so what gives?

[pingthing]

Meh, I've got the Series X, and to be honest I think, as long as the frame rate is high and stable, nobody can tell the difference.

[RgR]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
FPS is king over resolution every time.

Whoever puts that as priority is always the winner for me. It has seemed to change at times between xbox and ps4.

[Aussiesummer]

If it wasn't for the bonus psvr ability id go xbox but can't pass up the opportunity to go inside these levels.

[Father__Merrin]

I can bet you ps5 has edge in frame rate DF won't be listing all the drops. Also ps5 loads quicker.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Yeah, but I want a rock solid framerate vs higher pixel count

[waverider]

DF playing games again. Lets hope that NX does the analys and finds that in reality the Series X drops below 50 and even low 40 to achieve 4k.... Advantage PS5... Its not only one time.... like some are talking.

[SierraGuy]

I bet when the devs were testing series x at 1800p it still exhibited huge frame drops when firing a weapon...so they left it at 4k.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So this and Destiny 2...I expect more titles going forward.

[Kilua]

What? Destiny 2? This is a flat out lie. Destiny 2 didnt have an advantage on series x. If anything, it was on ps5, however, both versions had advantages in different areas - Your comment is disingenuous.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Actually it had a sustained resolution advantage according to Digital Foundry.

"The games are effectively identical - with PS5 showing only a slightly higher frequency of resolution drops under 4K. In fact, evidence does seem to point towards the Microsoft machine not using DRS much, if at all. 60fps performance is generally excellent on Series X too, but it does have some minor frame-rate drops from the target 60fps, while PlayStation 5 is slightly more consistent in this area. In short: a touch more clarity on Xbox, but a very occasionally smoother ride on the Sony machine."

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...

Not trying to lie or inflame anything. The facts are all there for you. This makes sense considering the Series X and the PS5 use the same APU platform, but the SX is slightly more powerful.

Is it a big deal? No.

[IRetrouk]

So resolution is better than framerate now🤔
Ok, got it👌

[SmokinAces]

"The facts are all there for you."

The fact is the quote you posted doesn't make series x necessarily sound better and for those that prefer frame rate over resolution which has been the consensus for some time now PS5 is the better performing machine for D2.

[hiawa23]

Great game on all of the platforms.

[GrizToof]

What I really want to know is, is the game good? Personally small differences in how a game looks and runs is not something I'm interested in. If the two games had drastic differences in performance then I might want to know so I make the right choice when purchasing the game. I guess a lot of people care about these things which is fine, I don't get it though. Digital Foundry is great at what they do, not trying to talk trash about them, just giving my personal opinion.

[Rikimaru1977]

lame article, once the game is good that's all that counts.

[SmokinAces]

FPS > Resolution. PS5 wins again.

[chrisoadamson]

Lol watch the video again.. nearly perfect on series x

[SierraGuy]

41 fps when firing a weapon is nearly perfect?

[SmokinAces]

Perfect > nearly perfect

[Father__Merrin]

https://youtu.be/pisLm1xpQT... series x is a mess a lot of people will be pissed

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

I'm buying it on Series X simply because Sony are idiots for not giving me storage options two months after release. It's ridiculous.

[OneLove]

And now it begins

[metalgod88]

And PC has a resolution over all...

[chrisoadamson]

8k rig ? Lol go home

[metalgod88]

Lol I already am home with my 8k rig. Unfortunately, tech isn't quite there yet to support it.

[Minute Man 721]

Sometime this year getting both systems 😎

[ScootaKuH]

Hardly worth getting worked up about though. Resolution doesn't matter to me. I'm currently playing spider man remastered on ps5 in performance & rt mode. I think this runs at 1080p next it plays like a dream and with rt it looks amazing. Performance over resolution any day

[XBManiac]

A win for Xbox Series X! Microsoft needed this... Good news for Redmond team.

[Father__Merrin]

https://youtu.be/pisLm1xpQT...

[XBManiac]

O_O Well... a win for Xbox Series X, they won another Digital Foundry pro Xbox campaign.

[PingasoFromHell]

The difference is so miniscule, it doesn't matter, both systems are great!!

[buying1999]

I want to see a comparison that includes the Google Stadia

[Obscure_Observer]

Superb!

[RazzerRedux]

Well....welcome back

[Obscure_Observer]

Thanks, Razzer!

Glad to see you guys doing fine in these troubled times and, hopefuly, your family and loved ones too. :)

[IRetrouk]

👀

[CrimsonWing69]

I’ll take VR and haptic feedback/adaptive triggers over shadows.

[boing1]

That's awesome and all but I'm playing it in VR on PS5 which is not available on any platform. I'll easily settle for 1800p because of this. Fight me.

[Binarycode]

I find it funny tbh.

It is a cross gen game that is using nothing of the newer consoles.

Obviously this code runs better on xbsx in most places.

Out of interest I would have liked to see PS5 run at 4k, Because at 3200x1800, it doesn't drop a frame. I wonder if these settings are to do with PS4pro/XBonex. etc.

I bet it gets patched.

[masterfox]

OmG!! Must get an xbux series x Now!!! .... hmmm I have a full HD TV, PS5 and a PSVR .. nahh I will stick with the PS5 version, better bang for your buck :D

[Father__Merrin]

Have a look at you tubers debunking this. Ps5 has got better reflections frame rate and decals https://youtu.be/pisLm1xpQT...

Ps5 version is defiantly better all round

[slavish0]

let the damage control begin!