Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - The First PS5 vs Xbox Series X Platform Comparison

Face-off by Richard Leadbetter & John Linneman: "It's finally happening. Ever since Microsoft and Sony revealed the hardware specifications of Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, the question has always been to what extent differences in teraflops, clock speeds and memory bandwidth will actually translate into the gameplay experience and today, we have our first glimpse at how the systems truly compare. Capcom's Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition was initially supplied to us on PlayStation 5 last week, with Xbox Series X code arriving yesterday. There's what looks very much like feature parity across the board here, and a unique set-up that's very friendly for benchmarking - so which machine is faster?"

[alextdarling]

Interesting finds - would need to see comparisons on actual next gen games though.

[lonewolf10]

Very true.

[darthv72]

Wow... that was quick. I figured the rt patch for x wouldnt happen for another month or so. Curious to see how it performs on the s.

[S2Killinit]

It will be the same more or less. One game will look better on one or the other. The only real difference will come down to exclusives.

[Jin_Sakai]

Agreed.

Regardless RT Quality mode performs better on Seriex X and 120fps mode performs better on PS5.

[gamer7804]

Agreed. Long short of it is gains are negligible either way so get what version you want and enjoy.

[StoneyYoshi]

Great start so far for both systems!

[Amplitude]

These systems are off to a fantastic start but not because of this remaster.

This is absolutely terrible. It runs at a completely unlocked framerate that jumps between 50 to 120fps constantly, the PS4 version cant be played at 4K at all on a HDMI 2.0 tv like mine, and all the modes are almost unplayable since you cant even lock to 60fps.

The PS4 Pro version of DmC5 is more stable and runs at a higher resolution than the PS5 version in its current state on my TV. Shockingly awful theyre letting this release like this lol

[KingofBandits]

That would only be for TV's that can't support 120hz?

[Ju]

You must have watched a different video... or not understood what was said. Either way...

[Amplitude]

Go watch the DF ps5 analysis. It was super interesting. But anyway yes -

If you have a TV that supports 120Hz but only at 1080p, the game will ALWAYS run at 120Hz mode fluctuating between 60-120fps which will always set your resolution to 1080p with no way to change it to 4K.

I reeeeeally hate the 120fps mode on my TV. 1080p just looks really blurry and the benefit of 60fps to 120fps with a controller are just not worth the resolution trade-off.
Im sure what DmC is pulling isnt gonna be the norm but something definitely needs to be said lol. Runs constantly fluctuating between 60-120fps, making it stuttery too. Its a terrible port lol

[Einhander1971]

I really don't care about Teraflops I care about games. Thats why PS5 is the better system, sorry.

[xHeavYx]

I know, right? The Xbox One X was more powerful than the PS4 Pro toot, but had no games to compete

[bouzebbal]

Common sense 👌🏽

[tontontam0]

Then you really don't have to buy a next gen console right now.

unless you are an ultra demon soul's fan

[Studio-YaMi]

You are "technically" correct, that's why I bought my ps5 at least, Demon's souls is just calling me out ...

and I'm weak ...

[StoneyYoshi]

Notice how a game that actually utilizes the SSD architecture (unlike BC games) loads faster on PS5?

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

It's always funny when things like this happens. Pointing out this fact a day ago would have been deemed 'damage controlling" or "making excuses" lol

[ABizzel1]

That's because deep down trolls know it, they just wish and pray it doesn't come true.

[mechethegoat]

Of course. It was obvious that sonys bc isn't as good. But, then again. DMC only loading like a second faster which is miniscule.

[Popsicle]

Yes loading from a time perspective is nearly unnoticeable, but when one loads at approximately 2 seconds and the other approximately 4, the difference is double or nearly double the performance from the SSD.

[StoneyYoshi]

"It was obvious that Sony's bc isn't as good"

Yet XB fans still needed to rub it in for some reason saying "so much for that super fast SSD in the PS5 lol" even though it should have been obvious since the BC games don't utilize the SSD architecture

Sure its minuscule but the game still loads in 2 seconds. You know whats more minuscule? The fact that the XSX TFlop advantage does barely anything here worth mentioning.

[wiz7191]

@stoney but it’s funny , once they start actually taking advantage of the XSX performance you’ll start seeing the difference. But giving how fast the PS5 SSD is and it only loads 2 seconds faster , you Sony pony’s love to bend , spin , and be in denial as hell lol .... y’all hold that SSD close to y’all hearts ,

[Ju]

Speaking of SSD and BC. I ran the exact same test on a Pro with a 4TB WD SDD. Load times with the BC titles on the PS5 are identical (!!!) with what I get on the pro. So, this does not take advantage of any additional HW in the PS5 at all. It's pretty much simulating what a Pro can do. Down to transfer rates.

Most benefits of that will probably come from the HW decompressor which does not need to move data to system ram at all.

[wiz7191]

I mean but some of you PS fanboys denounce ever advantage the Series X has sooooo , this fanboy crap is annoying as hell ..

[StoneyYoshi]

It goes both ways dude..... Constant talk about the "huge" difference we are supposed to see for 3rd party games on XSX.... Until people see the proof, it's going to continue. Just like all the doubt about the PS5 SSD being as fast as it is. We wont stop hearing about that until you see the benefit and we already are to an extent. But still waiting to see this TFLOP advantage. Either way it really doesn't matter in the end. What matters are the new games which XSX is still lacking currently. I have a PS5 and PC so either way, I get the best of 3 worlds in two once MS starts releasing their new first party games.

[cfir]

So in the first direct comparison XsX is not the Beast that some wanted to believe. Marginally faster at times (8%) and at others PS5 matches or exceeds.

"However, the average does not tell the real story. Xbox retains an advantage in cutscenes and in some gameplay content, but again, the boost is typically small. Meanwhile, in many of the gameplay areas we tested, PS5 is significantly faster and more consistent that Series X overall" - From the high frame rate mode

DFs overall summary.

"In terms of correlating on-paper specs to the actual experience on-screen, PlayStation 5 is either punching above its weight, or Xbox Series X isn't delivering on the full potential promised by a bigger silicon investment and a much more substantial memory interface"

[East76lands]

It needs to be locked at 60fps, clearly neither machine can reach a solid 120 with this game.

[Bathyj]

Yeah, oversight on Capcoms part. It could do a 4k60 with RT if they capped the frame rate.

[Popsicle]

@itsmebrian agreed DF is neutral, but people get upset if facts are reported in a way that contradicts “their truth.”

[NXFather]

Facts would be if he got the answer out of capcom and did not say "I don't have a technical explanation". Only facts is he need to stop with the speculation and conjecture as he put it and get it from the source capcom.

But, yeah they are neutral but, they don't have the best logic a lot of times. He could have just said we are waiting on Capcom's answer along with vrr response but, he chose to ignore that and put his own spin on it.

[Popsicle]

I see where you are coming from NX, but they acknowledge when they are speculating. You don't typically see that from a biased source because they usually present even speculative information as fact. Nevertheless, we agree that they are a neutral source.

[NXFather]

Yeah but, they also understand many of these impressionable that give them their views don't understand that their word don't equal capcom word hence all the playing on this site and frame the conversation as if something has been proven.

For the record they are the best I know of and they are neutral enough but, they are far from perfect *or 100 percent correct as has been proven several times with their speculations. How hard is it for a real journalist to simply ask capcom or say they did not answer. This is not directly stated in the video. Only that they have speculated on the matter.

But, yeah I did not think there was any issue with you at all. Just a comment to a more level headed person on this site.

[Stanjara]

Well, those uncapped frame rates are great for comparisons, but are awful for gameplay...for the end user.

Very similar performance from both consoles. They have power.

Also...I believe that Capcom engine can be a little bit more optimised.

So much modes. 120 is ridiculous.
I just want locked 60, and 30 games.

[StoneyYoshi]

It is nice to see that we may not always have to compromise having RT to reach 60 fps depending on the game of course.

[badz149]

I seriously think that they purposedly didn't put the cap on fps for the the future. I imagine in the next 3 or 4 years, both Sony and MS will release their midgen upgrades and these uncapped fps will surely help those consoles to really deliver locked 60 and 120fps as intended here.

[Ju]

This should be a simple option. Framerate limits and vsync (incl. multiplier) should be standard on these new consoles. You can hard lock the PS5 to 60Hz if I understand this right, but you'll loose the high fps modes. Still impressive that these boxes can actually reach 120fps @ 4k. VRR - Sony could have one that easily. Not sure what the holdup is here.

[Gunstar75]

DF said you can lock the X at 60fps but not the PS5

[RazzerRedux]

Which is a matter for the devs to address. That isn't a reflection on the hardware.

" We have shared our findings with Capcom a while back, and fingers crossed there'll be a solution to the issue, but the tl;dr version is simple enough on paper: allow PS5 users to select between 60Hz and 120Hz output resolution."

[Popsicle]

@RazzerRedux I initially thought the same thing and I hope you are correct. However, why would the developer elect to allow for VRR on both platforms as opposed to just allowing it on both? I hope you are correct that it comes down to the games development, but I can't help but think that the differing development approaches may be a result of the hardware not allowing the option.

[IRetrouk]

Sony confirmed vrr support will be part of the ps5, probably be one of the first updates they release, along with allowing us to move ps5 games to external, its supported, just not unlocked yet, but going of this vid, its not doing much.

[RazzerRedux]

@Popsicle

That's according to DF, not me.

[Popsicle]

@IRetro If that is the case it seems to be an easy fix. Perhaps a simple firmware patch can be applied and it will fix the issue on this game and all games moving forward. The console hasn't even been released yet so it is no surprise that all the features have not been fully ironed out yet.

[chrisoadamson]

Visually both platforms identical. Series x frame rates better than PS5

[cfir]

Series X frame rates sometimes better than PS5 and when they are, not by much. One section says 8% and another says 2-3 fps. Other times PS5 has a small advantage, except in the High frame rate mode where they say PS5 is significantly faster and more consistent than Series X.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

People are going to need to get used to the fact that the difference between both consoles will not be huge enough to brag and boast about. The 15% power difference won't be enough to double frames or resolution like some would hope.

[Gunstar75]

Did they??? I must have watched a different video. They said it loaded a bit faster which wasn't a deal breaker. 2 seconds...

[NXFather]

That is true but, he needs to get the answer out of capcom instead of making up why.

[Gunstar75]

3 out of 4 scenarios it is better on x... weird

[StoneyYoshi]

In some cases yes, but not consistently like you'd expect with its GPU advantage.

[lonewolf10]

Not surprising they look similar in an older but polished for next gen game, will be great when they compare next gen titles on both.

[RazzerRedux]

"Series x frame rates better than PS5"

Except when PS5 frame rates are better than XSX

https://youtu.be/GIIhJqTERl...

[potatoseal]

The difference is insignificant. That's what's going to happen for the whole gen. Some cases the Series X will be better, but the difference will not be significant at all. Your narrative falls apart. Enjoy your console, and we'll enjoy ours.

[Ju]

Well, but the PS5's framerate is more consistent. That is actually surprising, Unfortunately, this would be perfect for VRR which is absent on the PS5 at this time.

[RaiderNation]

Get used to these kinds of comparisons. It's what I've been saying all along. Both of these machines are very identical and as a result, multiplat games will look and run very identical. Totally comparable in the end. These consoles will rise and fall on their ecosystems and most importantly, their exclusives.

[Ghostbob]

So both have good and bad performances and are equal, so now can we just say the power difference really doesn't matter just play on the platform you prefer and enjoy your games, let's hope more games are close in graphics and performance so fanboys can't argue like little brats.

[Nofamboyism]

Good vid, both fairly on par. Some edge to xbox on some modes and some equally imo on ps5. My only area of concern is the part at the end where on ps5 if you don’t have a tv that’s 2.1hdmi you are screwed as you have to play downscaled to 1080p/120fps wherby xsx has the ability to have it at 4k/60 which is probably preferable as most people don’t have 120fps tvs

[Chevalier]

That seems to be more of an issue for Capcom to make the same option available on PS5

[Popsicle]

That begs to question why Capcom made the option available on one platform and not the other. Is it a hardware issue? I really hope this is fully on Capcom, but it why not just make the option available on both if it has nothing to do with the design of the hardware?

[Muditlawania]

Good

[Darthpaul84]

Different generation same ol digital foundry. If the Xbox version is better John straight up won’t say it he just lets the facts speak for themselves but if by some miracle the PlayStation is better he harps on it the whole video.

[Minute Man 721]

Time to dust off that battle cry from "360/PS3 era

"Lazy a$$ devs" 😆 😆

Edit : never played any DMC

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Time to dust off that other battle cry from "360/PS3 era

"It's not the developers fault that console is hard to develop for"

Oh wait, it's apparently easy to develop for this go 'round so I guess laziness isn't at play here 😆 😆

[Minute Man 721]

All these devs want is more powa....screw optimization 😆

[cell989]

Flashbacks 🤣🤣

[boing1]

Heh, invisible difference. Sony was right about diminishing returns.

[derek]

"Bu buh but 12 teraflops, velocity architecture" lol.

[ScootaKuH]

Velocity architecture can't hold a candle to blast processing 😏

[Popsicle]

I have an LG OLED B6 and C8 so 60hz is the top end. I really hope that not being able to switch refresh rates is something that gets ironed out on the PS5. I would hate to be stuck at lower resolutions simply because I can't scale the refresh rate. Other than that both versions are highly comparable.

[Whitey2k]

I keep on saying this im sure as every1 else ps5 will or end up with higher texture assets and streaming due to ssd and series x will have better framerates and resolution. So both will end up pretty much equal in alot of ways and both will have its strengths and weaknesses to the point where people can stop being upset knowing now that multiplatform games will look as good as each other.

[akaFullMetal]

Both sides had benefits seen. Higher average frame rate in 120 fps mode on PS5, quality mode higher 8 -5 fps on xbox, ray tracing mode very similar performance, maybe 1 of 2 fps to xbox. Wonder if some optimizations need to happen though, probably see updates for this game.

[chiefJohn117]

Looks like XSX runs it better but the drops on both is not acceptable your better off locking it to 60hz on the system level so dips are less noticeable and hopefully Capcom patches in a 60fps mode. Both ps5 and XSX should be able to play this with 60fps locked

[IRetrouk]

Did you only watch half the video🤔🤣

[chiefJohn117]

I seen the whole thing there's 2 specific scenes/areas ps5 runs better especially that room area those dips are cringeworthy lol but every other scene xsx ran better.

[IRetrouk]

🤣👌

[potatoseal]

NO. Looks like the differences are insignificant. Your narrative is dead in the gutter. Just enjoy your console and we'll enjoy ours.

[chiefJohn117]

I basically just said that!!! The whole 120 crap is pointless as the dips on both are too often and big your better off with 60fps where both would run practically the same, do you guys read correctly? It's like you see 1 sentence you don't like and tune out everything else I wrote get it together potatohead

[Rockstar]

hey chief, Remember this conversation?

Me: I'm looking forward to all these bots eating their words after both consoles are out in the wild

You: So when the XSX outperform it then what? You only setting yourself up for disappointment if you think otherwise

Me: IF that happens I won't have time for disappointment because I'll be too busy enjoying games regardless of power. But if I can be completely honest, I don't see that happening. You got your utensils ready?

You: Ah so you're just in denial

https://n4g.com/news/238591...

check it out chief!

[CaptainHenry916]

SSD architecture (unlike BC games) loads faster on PS5? Did you notice that🤣

[Shane Kim]

Sometimes xbox will be better, sometimes ps5 will be better. Unless you play them side by side (wich no one will) you won't notice anything.

[Bathyj]

What I figured. 4fps difference. One for each TFlop.

[CertifiedGamer]

I am amazed that Xbox Series X version is barely running better than the PS5 version with that being that the PS5 is not using VRR while the XSX is. I wonder how this game would perform if Sony had VRR support. I really hope Sony adds VRR support soon.

[KingofBandits]

what this shows me is that as always optimization is going to be key for these high frame rate modes. targeting 120FPS but averaging 90 to 100 is still going to look janky when playing. if this entire gen can finally standardize 60FPS with at or upscaled 4K then I'm good

[Destiny1080]

even VRR couldn't do anything against those 50fps dips, xbox version was all over the place

[Nacho_Z]

Pretty satisfying after putting up with all the blather about teraflops to see that on a purely technical level the PS5 holds its own. May even be the more powerful console, we shall see.

[kingPoS]

A yup. Now that next gen consoles are in people's hands, the pissing matches have officially begun.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[Petebloodyonion]

You know that you are grasping at straw when you need a deep down analysis to find out which version is indeed the best one.
Word of advice, if you need a video like this to help you select which console to buy than, please, seek help because you must really suffer from a severe case of anxiety.

[SDuck]

let's be honest, can you really see any difference between 110fps or 70fps? Because I don't so I don't give a crap

[wiz7191]

I think ppl really need to wait into true next gen games out , these machines just came out .. it’s like this in the beginning of every gen ,