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A Look Back At Sony's Long, Complicated History with Backward Compatibility

The PlayStation 5 may be filled with cutting-edge tech, but as gaming advances, is there a place for older classic games that haven't yet been remade or remastered? Join us in this look back at Sony's complicated history with backward compatibility.

sampsonon1313d ago (Edited 1313d ago )

OMG! Can we stop with the old games being this "important" feature. Hardly anyone cares about it. If they did Xbox would be #1. Jesus, talk about making something out of nothing.
The reason it's been complicated is because they are more focused on Innovating, not looking back at f ing old games.

ApocalypseShadow1313d ago (Edited 1313d ago )

What I'm laughing about is the narrative that it's long and complicated.

PS1
PS2- BC with PS1
PS3- BC with PS1 and PS2 for awhil. Then just PS1
PS4- no BC
PS5- BC with PS4

It's like, "what's so complicated?"

AnnaDea1312d ago

The systems that had software emulation compared to hardware.

That was mostly a thing with PS3, and to some extension PS2.

sampsonon1312d ago

If you like old games just keep the console it was made for. See? Problem solved.
I respect MS turning tail and running away from making top quality AAA big budget games. No one bought those games when they made them the first few yrs of the xbox one. That's on xbox gamers.
So they decided to make volume the main priority and created GP. Their idea for the future of xbox is old games A-AA games, with a few AAA games every once in a while.
Sony didn't have that issue selling their AAA games. That's why they are still producing them at a high rate, because ps gamers support them so why change?

As a ps/pc gamer i will support Gamepass when i see a game i want to play. That might mean a couple month sub from me, which supports GP. But i know i need to buy a ps5 to play PS games.

Nothing more nothing less.

tombfan1312d ago

EXACTLYYYYYYYYYY 1 console with no BC and the world is on fire...

Unknown_Gamer57941313d ago

If I had to choose, yeah, I prefer Sony's strategy because I buy new systems for new games. However, I'd love to be able to enjoy more of the classics than has been available on my current systems of choice. The difference is, it's more just something that would be nice with PlayStation, as it has us covered for current games. Xbox is probably going to keep struggling in that regard even with their Bethesda acquisition, so of course they're going to double down on past games to boost their system's library.

Gameseeker_Frampt1312d ago

When your competitor is doing laps around you on a topic, you might want to at least think about it. Let's be clear, Sony's absolute refusal to even bring up the details about bc just makes them look stupid. If they don't want to do it, at least be honest and come out and say that you don't want to do it. Instead of mentioning it at all during the showcase, Jim Ryan had to finally admit the facts about PS1/PS2/PS3 bc when asked by Famitsu. We still have no idea how PS4 bc will work on PS5.

sampsonon1312d ago (Edited 1312d ago )

Actually Mark Cerny said that 100 of the most popular ps4 games will be available at launch(BC) on the ps5. So i don't know what you mean by "Sony's absolute refusal to even bring up the details about bc just makes them look stupid." I mean at least start your argument with some truth. https://www.theverge.com/20... That was in March.

Gameseeker_Frampt1312d ago

@sampsonon

That event wasn't a press event but was a replacement for their GDC event. Since then, none of the press events have even mentioned the topic of backwards compatibility. Like you pointed out, the last time Sony publicly talked about bc was in March and now with less than 6 weeks to launch we still have almost no idea of how it will work. Will I be able to put my PS4 disc in and just start playing or will I have to download a digital copy of the game? Will my saved games transfer? How will multiplayer work - will there be cross-play with PS4 players or will PS5 players have their own mp?

ApocalypseShadow1312d ago

Samson, I agree. I'm surprised your first comment got so many disagrees. It is tiring seeing all this push for BC that's more a courtesy feature than an important feature for new consoles.

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TheColbertinator1313d ago

That 60gig PS3 was golden. Wish I had one

Unknown_Gamer57941313d ago

I have a 80G PS3 with B/C. I wish it didn't die on me, but I still technically have it. One day I'll get that repaired along with my PS2 that can't read discs. Actually...by the sound of things it might be easier to get the PS2 repaired.

Knightofelemia1313d ago

@TheColbertinator

I wish you good luck on that hunt half of them are broken on Ebay and the ones that work are worth an arm and a leg to buy. And the 80 gig if you find one with out certain firmware you're in luck then.

Latex741313d ago (Edited 1313d ago )

Love my 60gig still have it works like a charm

Petebloodyonion1313d ago

The video is long but quite interesting into explaining how backward compatibility work via hardware and software emulation and the why Sony cut it on PS3.

As for Sampsonon comment about legacy games should I point out the numerous HD releases of games like FF7 or resident evil4?
Perhaps because ppl still find them fun today.

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PlayStation x PUMA Collection Releases April 2024

PlayStation x PUMA orders open April 18, 2024, Priced between $100 - $120!

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Barlos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Well, they're ugly aren't they?

phoenixwing1d 16h ago

Isn't any better or worse than any other shoe. Most of them are made in sweat shops no matter what logo they have

Ironmike2d ago

Playstation should have went with nike

JackBNimble1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I'd be embarrassed wearing any clothing with a console sponsored brand unless is was 12 years old.

Tody_ZA1d 21h ago

It ain't real until LeBron tells us what this shoe means to his career.

DefenderOfDoom21d 18h ago

Puma the unofficial sneakers for the NYC Breakers from the movie Beat Street (1984)

Abnor_Mal1d 8h ago

Those were the suede ones like the burgundy ones with the fat shoe laces. If you were really nice you had the checker board laces done up. A pair of Lee or Guess jeans a BVD nylon T-shirt. Rocking some Gazelles and Kangol cap preferable the beaver fur.

DefenderOfDoom218h ago

Roc Steady Crew wanted to wear Adidas but was told must wear Pumas because they are funding the movie . Awesome time to be a teenager in the early 80's
. Cool thing about being in your 50s is we were there for the beginning of HIP HOP and Video games.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv724d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle4d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga4d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19923d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21834d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus233d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv723d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier3d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan2d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1014d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos4d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac4d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

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