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Xbox Doubles Down on Compatibility, PlayStation Backs Off

Spawn on Me host Kahlief Adams guest-hosts this week with Ryan, Miranda, and Destin as the Xbox crew discusses Microsoft’s and Sony's differing approaches to compatibility, EA's newly renewed exclusivity agreement with the NFL for Madden, the future of the now-canceled BlizzCon, and more!

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Futureshark1423d ago

So I bought Kingdoms of Alamur on my old 360 back in the day, and was very happy when I found it was BC on Xbox One.
My question is will 'Smart Delivery' give me the Xbox 360 version on the Series X, or the newly announced One X remaster version?
MS did say they won't charge for upgrade versions, so will this count? Or is it a bit of a smoke and mirrors promise?

Agito19871422d ago

it's a remaster not an upgrade, counts as a diferent game with its own achievements.

Futureshark1422d ago

Ah I see, so might be better to wait and get the Series X BC 360 version, beefed up with HDR, faster loading and running at higher resolution and FPS due the XSX hardware, rather then the Xbox One remaster that probably offers similar but maybe not even as good on the XSX. Interesting.

Agito19871422d ago

@Futureshark

Well that depends, series X should give Ai upscaling, frame rate I belive depends if the game originally is able to support 60fps or run unlocked. But it should run at least the original frame rate at a solid pace with no dips.
Your 360 en Og games will run and look better than before, but that does not automatically mean it will run or look better than a remaster. It depends on the amount of work that has been put into it.

In the end, it's up to de Dev/Publisher to give people a update to a game, or sell you A old product under a new name (Remaster/Remake)

green1422d ago

"MS did say they won't charge for upgrade versions, so will this count? Or is it a bit of a smoke and mirrors promise?"

When did Microsoft develop or publish Kingdoms of Alamur? SMH

Gaming4Life19811422d ago

I didnt know that kingdoms of amalur was getting remastered and I already own the game but depending on price I might get it. I dont think the series x will boost the 360 version past a remaster but I could be wrong.

rainslacker1422d ago

That's an EA published game, so MS wouldn't be making that decision.

Chances are, the remaster will be a completely different release....although stranger things have happened, so maybe it'll be a free upgrade. EA has also done reduced costs upgrades for cross gen, although this isn't exactly cross gen.

StoneyYoshi1422d ago

Smart delivery only counts for games supported that get released for XB1 and XSX. If it's a 360 game then it's either running through BC or you buy the remastered version if the developer made one.

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HarryMasonHerpderp1422d ago

Backwards compatibility is only a good thing and xbox doubling down on it is a smart move. Thing is do we even know what the plan is with PS5? A little hard to judge when they haven't revealed what the plans are yet. I'm really hoping it will be backwards compatible with PS3, PS2 and PS1 as well as PS4. I know it's a pipe dream but I don't know why Sony seem to be keeping their legacy hidden on old platforms.

Agito19871422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

They could give us at least access to our psone & ps2 games.
Really would love to play trough of resident evils, front mission & metal gear solid.

Z5011422d ago

What have you playing your ps1 & ps2 games on all this this time?
"They could give us at least"
Didn't they "at least" give us the ps1 & ps2 in the first place?

Agito19871422d ago

@Z501
"What have you playing your ps1 & ps2 games on all this this time?"
I haven't, that's the point. I have a couple of games I love to replay to this day. I should be able to still play my digital bought games on current sony systems don't you think? Hell, even the vita supports psone games.

"Didn't they "at least" give us the ps1 & ps2 in the first place?"
This one I don't follow?

CrimsonWing691422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

I think what @Z501 was trying to say is if you want to play the older games then get the older system. Which is kind of how I feel about HD Remasters (not Remakes) from a generation behind current-gen.

However, as far as BC goes I agree with you because for me I have limited space to put numerous systems in. I can’t have a PS2, PS3, PS4, and PS5 out just to play older Games. It would’ve been so epic if the PS5 could just do what Xsex is doing and let us play everything. That right there automatically would’ve made it the best Sony console ever.

Agito19871422d ago

@CrimsonWing69
Same for me I have ps4, Xbox & switch connected. and have psone,ps2,ps3,xbox360 in storage.
I don't have the space for each console hooked up to the tv.

And it is really just my personal opinion, I see psn & ms store the same way I look at GOG & Steam.
If I buy a game digitally (often more expensive than physical & the platform holder makes more % off of what I pay.) I want my purchase to be available across all devices that are technically able to support those games.

Upgrading your console should be no real different than upgrading your PC at this point in time.

And don't get me wrong, if sony gives no BC for psone/ps2/ps3 that's fine. But I as the customer see it as a negative.

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ZeroX98761422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

I'm seriously hoping for PS1,PS2 and almost complete PS4 library compatibility. as for PS3, I think by now we know it won't be an easy task. RPCS3 (PS3 emualtor for PC) has come a long way since it's original release and does run a lot of titles at great speed, but requires one hell of a PC to run it smoothly.

I'm hoping for complete PS1/PS2 BC and not a "list" of specific games.

Sayai jin1422d ago

Would be nice. BC is only a good thing.

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Agito19871422d ago (Edited 1422d ago )

@Sniperwithacause
Do I still use my old phone/ps3? No....
Do I still want access to my files/Games? Yes...

If I upgrade my PC I expect it to still run my games. Same for the console if I upgrade to a better model I expect it to give me a better experience or at least equal than before.

NeoGamer2321422d ago

I disagree...

Microsoft having 15 first party studios now is a great move. And those studios are producing.

Microsoft GamePass was a great move, especially GamePass Ultimate. And putting first party games on GamePass.

Microsoft's hardware architecture (like Sony's) is very strong looking for this next generation.

Microsoft providing exceptional BC (even improving some games) was a great move.

Sony is not without its great moves as well.

Sony's improvement of the library for PS Now was a great move

Sony continuing to ship highly acclaimed triple AAA first party games is also a great move.

Sony's next generation hardware (as with XSX) is a great move.

It is a good time to be a gamer, both companies are competing hard and making great moves.

StoneyYoshi1422d ago

You have my respect!! This fella right here is a true gamer! You provided nothing but facts my good man!

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto1d 15h ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger881d 10h ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb198120h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein19h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 13h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188121h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio21h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7716h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga23h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7210h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19925h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218323h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga22h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan17h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit10h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2316h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7216h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier5h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

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purple1011d 2h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-15h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 1h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic23h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead16h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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An Update on This Year’s BlizzCon and Blizzard’s 2024 Live Events

Blizzard writes: "After careful consideration over the last year, we at Blizzard have made the decision not to hold BlizzCon in 2024. This decision was not made lightly as BlizzCon remains a very special event for all of us, and we know many of you look forward to it. While we’re approaching this year differently and as we have explored different event formats in the past, rest assured that we are just as excited as ever to bring BlizzCon back in future years."

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PRIMORDUS1d 11h ago

How about you not hold Blizzcon anymore period. You fucking POS company. I really hope Blizzard would just die.