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Project xCloud demo of Halo 5 nearly indistinguishable from local play

Only a few ms of additional input latency when streaming to a smartphone.

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Spurg1783d ago

I wish to try this, it been getting some great reviews

Christopher1783d ago (Edited 1783d ago )

If you can detect input latency, then it's not just a few ms. And that's on an optimal setup with proximity and internet latency not being an issue due to set up. Real world will see even more noticeable latency.

Hopefully technology advances to lower this, but it just isn't there and it's not going to suddenly pop up because Microsoft and Google are entering the experience. It's going to take time (like Bethesda's Orion project).

Jin_Sakai1783d ago (Edited 1783d ago )

Agreed. The tech and internet infrastructure just isn’t there for game streaming to rival a local experience. Neither Microsoft nor google is going to magically fix this. It’s still years away.

I prefer a local experience myself. Can’t stand lag and video compression you get with cloud gaming.

timotim1783d ago

I mean... Input lag can be felt even in local play from TVs. Not even local play is input lag free...the TV you are using right now has input lag. That's not the question...the question is, is it enough to affect your play. I would never attempt to play Halo 5's MP modes over streaming, but i certainly would be game for the SP modes.

Christopher1783d ago

***Only a few ms of additional input latency***

If you detect a difference from normal input lag, then it's not just a few ms of input lag.

The ability to detect to just a few ms is not something you can measure, and if it's something you detect by just testing in a crowded room with a smartphone game, then it's definitely not just a few ms. That's obviously in addition/in comparison to normal input lag they are used to experiencing.

Is that a better response for you?

DarXyde1783d ago

"I would never attempt to play Halo 5's MP modes over streaming, but i certainly would be game for the SP modes."

Bearing in mind that MP is Microsoft's bread and butter. I am sure it will have its applications and be adequate, but it is certainly not something I would utilize for competitive play, especially online shooters and fighting games.

chiefJohn1171783d ago (Edited 1783d ago )

Not gonna lie that's acceptable input lag. Pretty good.

Razzer1783d ago

Initial reaction is mixed. I'm definitely curious to see how well this works in real world conditions where MS techs are not standing by and the datacenter is a lot further away.

aconnellan1783d ago (Edited 1783d ago )

Definitely agreed - real-world conditions will be the make or break for xCloud. Seeing some people who are ok with the input lag and others who aren't, so it sounds like something that needs to be tested personally

Zeref1783d ago (Edited 1783d ago )

where do you see this mixed reactions? Most if not all outlets are saying that it's amazing lol

The mixed reactions are coming from PS fanboys who haven't even tried it lol

Razzer1783d ago

LOL

"Eventually, Microsoft had to hardwire each device into the internet to assure a more functional demo. Things were smooth then. Snappy gameplay. No missed shots. No ugly artifacts. Just smooth rounds of Xbox One-quality Halo on a phone.

But with xCloud so dependent on the internet, the demonstration also highlighted the most significant problem facing Microsoft, Google, and all their other competitors: The internet. As long as the internet can mess up, for any of a number of reasons like lousy wifi and network congestion, cloud gaming will be a crapshoot. I might be able to play Halo on my phone come October, but I won’t actually be able to take Halo with me everywhere."

https://n4g.com/news/227064...

MetroidFREAK211783d ago

Looking forward to trying it out in October

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Microsoft is experimenting with ad views for access to hundreds of Xbox games

Free games? In THIS economy? Well, in exchange for your eyeballs at least. (Figuratively, not literally... although don't give them ideas.)

What you need to know

• Microsoft Gaming CFO Tim Stuart recently described how in the future, you may be able to view ads to gain access to Xbox Game Pass.

•Recent Xbox Series X|S code strings we've seen seem to corroborate this, with the ability to earn 15 minute blocks of Xbox Game Pass access in exchange for watching ads.

•Game Pass across PC, Xbox, and Cloud features hundreds of games in exchange for a low monthly fee.

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darthv72138d ago

Hmm..... I used to earn GP by way of searching with Bing but I hear the rewards program is being revamped. I still earn points but it seems they did change the amount you get per search. I dont know how i feel about this. It sounds like they are going the Youtube route where right in the middle of something you are enjoying, an ad pops up and you have to sit through it (if it does not have a skip option after 5 seconds).

I pay for my GP access, so this wouldnt really bother me but I can see it affecting plenty of others. It reminds me of the rumor about how some game companies (EA, Ubisoft) were toying with the idea of running ads before you ever get into the game. Like the old days of renting movies from Blockbuster and not being able to skip the previews (yes, some DVD had a non skip option for previews). I pay for stuff so i wouldnt have to deal with ads, but even now they are encroaching the very things i pay a premium for.

This whole thing is just..... a bad idea.

purple101138d ago

I remember those dvds with non-skippable adds! Wow that takes me back.

Plague-Doctor27137d ago

@babadivad

Yup. You'd have to pop in the DVD before going to the bathroom, grabbing a snack, etc

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shinoff2183138d ago

Such a shame cause even if you don't think this is a big deal what's next they put ads on ultimate gamepass and the free one gets more. This is disgusting. Yes even if Sony goes this route I'll feel the same. We got enough ads in this world ffs

purple101138d ago

Some recent studies show the average person sees 4000 adverts a day

ChasterMies137d ago

The average person should start using ad blockers.

ChasterMies137d ago (Edited 137d ago )

“even if Sony goes this route I'll feel the same”

This isn’t a “both sides” issue. Sony has never had ads on the PlayStation Home Screen but Microsoft has laden Xbox’s Home Screen with ads since the Xbox 360. Microsoft has put ads on Windows 11 OS! Microsoft is basically the bad guy from “Ready Player One”.

shinoff2183137d ago

I know that hence the key word If. Sonys never given an indication of this where as ms definitely has.

Christopher137d ago

I mean, it's not never, but it's not like Xbox. Sony has promoted things with icons on the XMB, it's just really rare.

EvertonFC137d ago

They could do GP free with ads, GP £20 per month without ads, which one would the casual/hardcore choose ?

Christopher137d ago

"Hi, we've received your comment submission. Please watch this 30s ad to finalize and publish your comment to N4G.com. Thank you."

We're just having our eyelids forced open more and more every day it feels like.

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ApocalypseShadow138d ago

You don't say?/S

You mean the company that puts ads on the dashboard, tried to force a camera on Xbox One to push ads is experimenting with ads for game pass access? No. You must be joshing. Lol

Wouldn't put it past them.

crazyCoconuts137d ago

Getting people locked into subs and advertising to them is what passes as innovation at Microsoft.
At least they're keeping Sony on their toes with the threat of competition

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Microsoft Launches New Bing Feature Making Xbox Cloud Gaming Supported Titles Playable via Search

Microsoft has launched a new Bing feature that lets you experience Xbox Cloud Gaming supported games just by searching for it.

Profchaos564d ago

Microsoft still trying to get us to start using bing and I'm still not buying it

darthv72564d ago

It's not a bad way to earn points. Esp if you do a lot of searching for stuff. I haven't had to pay for Gamepass in over a year because i am constantly earning enough points to pay for it. I've had upwards of 161k lifetime points and currently only 2k away from another free month of GPU.

Profchaos563d ago

Do you do a lot of searching because bing can't find anything on the first go? /S

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Play Halo Infinite, Deathloop, and More with Xbox Cloud Gaming on the Logitech G CLOUD Handheld

At Xbox, we’re always looking to make gaming available to more people in more ways. So today, we’re announcing that Xbox Cloud Gaming will be available in more places with the Logitech G CLOUD Gaming Handheld when it launches in North America on October 17.

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darthv72584d ago

I can pretty much do the same thing with my steamdeck. I get that MS doesn't need to make their own dedicated portable... not anymore. this unit for $300 looks to be pretty decent for other stuff as well, not just xcloud gaming.

crazyCoconuts583d ago

Fact that you could get a steam deck for $100 more and play a wide variety of games without an awesome network connection... Dunno, this device could be ok for around the house I guess, but for a lot cheaper imo. Like $150

XiNatsuDragnel584d ago

I see very interesting but xbox portable would probably be better imo

Sgt_Slaughter583d ago

The portable market is dead unfortunately. Phones pretty much ended that as we know it. Going from 150M+ units sold for the DS to only 75M or so for the 3DS is why Nintendo combined markets, Phones chewed right into it.

crazyCoconuts583d ago

I agree with you for the most part, but the switch has been really successful and I think I read somewhere that hardly anyone plays it docked, so it's not being used as a hybrid but I could be wrong.
You're right in that the market is WAY smaller than it used to be

crazyCoconuts583d ago

It would be even better for MS to make GamePass/MS store work on the steam deck. That way you're not locked into just their marketplace. But for an Xbox fan (I don't mean this in a bad way) I can see how a windows based portable that just plays PC game pass/MS store games would be a neat thing indeed

darthv72583d ago

to your comment above, I dont play my oled switch docked. to me its a waste of that screen. If i want to play docked i will use my sons regular switch model.

UltimateOwnage583d ago

Cloud gaming on a handheld, hard pass... Cloud gaming is still pretty terrible even on a dedicated, cable connected device let alone one connecting over wifi. Sounds like someone in charge at Logitech loves the buzz word “cloud” and demanded a handheld be made regardless of whether it was a good idea. I’ll stick with my steam deck.

saint_seya583d ago

Well it works great for me. I guess on cloud gaming depends on your net, servers and how far are you from servers. Dunno where the servers are located here in Argentina, but works great for me, feels like is faster response time than playing regular games online with 50-60 latency.

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