After Sekiro, I Take Back Everything Bad I Ever Said About Dark Souls

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice updates the FromSoftware formula drastically, but somehow, it's made me appreciate Dark Souls' quirks even more.

[b163o1]

Just got this game, and its kicking my A$$, but I knew who "FromSoftware" was before I purchased the game, and I appreciate the challenge...

[VerminSC]

It’s so different from dark souls. You can grind and cheese to some extent in dark souls. In sekiro you gotta get good or you can’t beat it. It’s an amazing game.

[AnthonyDavis]

This is a fake souls game which makes me want another dark souls game even more.

[bujasem_89]

It definitely isn't a fake. I just don't understand the people that say you can't grind in this game.

Please tell me what you are smoking. You see those 4 trees of moves in your start menu. Those are what you gring and what you use to beat any challenge you face. Just gotta find the right weak points in tactic.

Still can't wait for a souls game. I would so play a demons souls remaster that was a master piece. Saw a lot of mods to it in Sekiro in fact.

[cyber_daemonx]

@anthony, its not a Souls game full stop fgs.

[Vegamyster]

AnthonyDavis

Fake Souls game? It started off as a new Techu lol, it's not supposed to feel the same.

[ethan_braun]

You're right! They're both fantastic, just totally different than one another.

[jerethdagryphon]

Wait tell you get to last boss it's pure evil

[UltraNova]

Pretty... hateful guy ;-)

[jerethdagryphon]

I'm so stuck on it

[TheKingKratos]

I am at the last boss fight i can get through the 1st and 2nd phase just fine without even losing any health but things get much worse in the 3rd phase
But i think i can manage.

He still not the hardest boss from them
I think martyr and nameless king much harder tbh

[Edito]

You will appreciate until you start feeling frustrated lol then you will get good you will feel satisfied then you will find the next boss that will make you fill again helpless and frustrated then deep inside you will say to yourself "FromSoftware went the extra mile there was no need seriously" Then you will rage quit... but you won't be able to sleep or to have fun with anything else and this pattern will repeat until you finish the game like a proper Shinobi :-) You can't imagine how I felt when I beat the final boss... But trust me you will feel the same...

Keep going and don't give up

[CaptainOmega]

I got the Platinum for Dark Souls 1 and 3, Demon’s Souls, and Bloodborne. I tried playing Nioh and it just kicked my butt (didn’t make it past the 2nd level). I fear if I tried Sekiro it would be another game that would end up in my backlog.

[Mulletino]

Its almost like reverse bloodborne. Very offensive but block/parry instead of dodges. Great game and very playable once you understand how the combat system works.

[ChipChipperson]

Right now, I'm about halfway on my second playthrough. Honestly, it feels "easier", in certain aspects, give it a try. You might end up finding it easier than Bloodborne( I can't comment on the Souls series, because I haven't played them). I also got the platnium for Bloodborne. Once you get the hang of the gameplay mechanic, without spoiling anything story-wise, you will end up having an easier time. The combat in Sekiro is definitely much more geared towards deflecting/blocking a majority of enemy attacks, mainly dodging. Dodging has its place within the combat, but it's not like Bloodborne. You have to be much more confrontational and more aggressive, in most cases, to really get the edge in Sekiro. The game will definitely test your focus and timing with deflections, since deflecting attacks is crucial to overcoming the tougher enemies, these are always the mini-bosses and bosses. The mini-bosses and bosses, you don't merely just try to take their health to zero, you can, but it's better to deal posture damage, to open them up to a deathblow. A boss can have half health, but if you dealt enough posture damage, through well-timed deflections and a steady onslaught of successful attacks, you can do a deathblow on them and start the next round of that boss fight.

Most enemies in the game can be stealth killed, some it takes a little ingenuity to stealth kill the more perceptive ones. There are even mini-bosses and bosses who can be stealth killed to make the fight end quicker. Not saying they'll flat out die and the boss is over with, but it makes life easier because you essentially take out a round that needs to be fought, and you can save your resources for the later round of that fight. You're free to travel and fall back to areas and heights that the enemy can't get to(some enemies, usually the shinobi-type ones, can chase you down for a bit), that way you can either wait for the enemy to lose track of you, regain composure, ambush, etc. Don't forget, this game does play a bit similarly to Tenchu, in terms of map navigation, enemy placement/patrols, etc. so direct combat isn't the only way to get through areas, unlike Bloodborne where you meet a group of enemies, fight or run past them. This game you can do that, but stealth is there, and overall traversal has much more to it since you have a large map with shortcuts.

You also have the prosthetic arm with you, which can actually make some fights so much easier because there are enemy types that are weak or susceptible to specific prosthetic arm weapons. Beast/animal types are weak/stunned by fire type weapons, some tough later game enemies are killed very easily if you found the poisonous blade prosthetic, the shuriken prosthetic starts to become a great tool to use to keep up posture damage when the enemy starts to recover from it, etc.

Definitely try this game. I had the same feelings once I had the game, the beginning portions of it were really giving me a hard time, and I was starting to become a bit unmotivated to continue. HOWEVER, once you start to learn, or say "unlearn" the way you play this game, it starts to come together. The mechanics of the game start to make sense and you start to develop the mental capacity on how to deal with situations this game throws at you. Don't try to play this game like it's Bloodborne. It has similarities to it, since it is a From Software game, but it plays differently.

[cyber_daemonx]

Its better than NiOH tbh.

[Mulletino]

Mostly different but I’ll give you “better”.

[Kaze88]

I have played every Souls game, Bloodborne and Nioh at least twice to the end. Sekiro just once, yet going on second run after I finish Metro and DMC5. I do enjoy Nioh's different styles and gear system, but at times it's just plain cheap in difficulty department. Huge difficulty spikes every now and then. But souls, bb and sekiro is made by totally another developer, so they are quite different to Nioh. I would say that Sekiro is really hard at the start, but in the end it's maybe the best game that they have done. Still love DS3 and BB, but Sekiro is something different. You have to take most your enemies head on, deflect their strikes and strike back when you can. Use the tools for right situations. Great game.

[ethan_braun]

Give it a try! I still think it's a fantastic game, just don't go into it thinking you'll have the same experience as a Soulsbourne. It's harder, but more forgiving and stream-lined than those games.

[BlaqMagiq1]

I'm surprised you're struggling in Nioh after platinuming the Souls games. I love Nioh but I found it to be much easier than the Souls games. With the right setup you can actually be OP in the game. Even against bosses.

[CaptainOmega]

Maybe I wasn't playing it right.

[GamingSinceForever]

This game really isn’t so bad once you get a rhythm going.

For me the last fight was a bit too long. You have to be really cautious or else you start all over again. I simply did not have the time or patience for that. When they patch in a checkpoint I will come back to it.

[Wonton678]

I already played the game, it's difficult but I enjoyed it