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Sony Demands $20.3k From Pirated PS4 Games and Console Seller

Sony demands $16800 in damages by Eric David Scales, a Californian who faced allegations of selling jailbroken PS4 pre-loaded with pirated games in October.

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Eonjay1890d ago

Welp at least they are asking for responsible damages.

AnthonyDavis1889d ago

20.3k? Don’t they have bigger fish to fry. This will probably just get thrown in the back burner.

TexasTrey921889d ago

It's about setting precedent, this is a fish that has the ability to get much larger if not taken care of now. The amount they're asking for is fair imo.

Traecy1889d ago

It's called principles & examples.

-volt-1889d ago (Edited 1889d ago )

Yeah. like an executive and lawyers back pocket. Solves nothing.

CptDville1889d ago

It's like saying "he only killed one person". Crime is a crime.

AnthonyDavis1889d ago

^Ehhh you guys should look into people who got charged at like 250k with the movies and music. But they actually didn’t get charged that much. And also they found many to be guilty but it requires so much work prove and figure how much they owe that they just lessened the penalty by a considerable amount.

Christopher1889d ago

If they let this go, knowing what they're doing, the next person can get away with it because they didn't stop this one guy.

Teflon021889d ago

Called making the person an example. They're not trying to destroy someone. Just get a point across clearly. You'd be way worse off in they wanted that to be the case. Especially when you're guilty

porkChop1889d ago

Nah. Sony have every right to do this. Can't fault them on this one.

AnthonyDavis1889d ago

People are always black marketing things on the daily. Now they may not be actually phyiscally selling them which is dumb in the first place. You try to sell a physical product and that can be more easily traced back.

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Fluttershy771890d ago

Jailbreak from jail if you don't pay Eric

Abnor_Mal1890d ago

For a moment seeing the headline I thought the article was about Soulja Boy.

Anyone selling jailbroken systems and pirated games deserves to be sued. Hell even if you buy it knowingly, you deserve some kind of legal action if caught.

This of course is in MY opinion.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1889d ago

Calm down it’s just video games. You want peoples lives to be ruined over a pirated $60 game? Sue the person for what the estimated cost of said stolen merchandise is worth and move on.

Abnor_Mal1889d ago

Sounds like you're saying basically the same thing, so I don't see an issue. Sue them for selling pirated games and consoles and if you also buy them and are caught then the same. You're acting like I said they should rot in jail for the rest of their life or given the death penalty when I said no such thing.

Why are people always trying to twist words to make mountains out of mole hills?

DaveZero1889d ago

Spot on.

I think some on here have gotten confused between there love for Sony and the reality which is someone's life is about to go down the drain for ever.

The Fact there are some people around who seem to be ok with a corporation destroying someone, especially when that person most likely can't afford to pay that is just disgusting.

Would those same people be saying the same thing if Sony came knocking on there door for that amount, no you wouldn't, so don't be so nasty towards others going through what is a disaster of a time.

No corporation should get away with destroying someone's life. Yes that person did wrong and as speak the truth said, charge for whatever the copyrighted games were worth.

This is the world you are asking for when a corp can just come along take you to court and get this much bandits nothing to them.

One mite also say that it's Sony's fault why the games have been pirated, they have been more than known in the past to leak private details on millions of PlayStation owners. Sony should of more than made sure there firmware was up-to-date and security which limits this kind of thing happening.

CorndogBurglar1889d ago (Edited 1889d ago )

They are being very fair over this.

1. The guy was selling these consoles through multiple channels, but Sony is only suing for the ones he sold through his website. So based off that alone they are probably still coming out of this holding the short end of the stick.

2. He was selling each console for $800 a piece. They are only suing for the price of the console and $200 per pirated game. He had 76 pirated games.

3. Aside from that they are adding $3,500 in court costs.

You may say the games are only worth $60 that he pirated, but he didn't pirate them for personal use. He was selling them. So Sony could have easily lost more than $60 per game if multiple people are buying these things. Which they obviously were.

Sony is being overly reasonable here. They could be asking for this guy's head in potential lost sales, but they aren't.

DarXyde1889d ago

Not sure where you're from, but stealing something worth $60 is considered theft. People get legal action taken against them for theft, you know.

It doesn't matter WHAT it is. Piracy sets a bad precedent, and if you don't nip it in the bud when you see it, people tend to get greedy and profit from it with intent to sell. "Let it ride", if you will.

The solution you propose has no consequences to discourage that behavior in the future, besides the inconvenience of going to court.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1889d ago

The difference is I don’t agree with suing people for selling jail broken systems. Jail breaking a system should not be against the law. I jailbreak/modify my systems all the time. Should I be in jail? No.

nucky641889d ago

no surprise you think jailbreaking a system should be legal........ because you do it.

DaveZero1889d ago

Abnor I think the difference is what the person is being done for, it's makes no difference to Sony whether it's the cost of a 50 pound game or they apply 20k damages. It is however going beyond a point when the person's life is being totally destroyed over it, I doubt Sony found 20k on pirated software on this person.

gammaray131889d ago

dont like what you buy then don't buy it and create you're own console then

Dragonscale1889d ago

Its basically piracy and theres no justification tbh no matter how you try to spin it.

CorndogBurglar1889d ago (Edited 1889d ago )

Suing people and going to jail are two different things. Let's get that straight right off the bat. They aren't charging this guy as a criminal. They aren't suing him for jailbreaking a console. They are suing him for jailbreaking many consoles then selling them. That's hardly the same thing.

They also aren't overcharging him. They are charging what they know he sold. He is actually getting away with more than they are asking for.

Read the article. You'll see that they are being more than reasonable and still coming out of this with lost money.

MisterLou1889d ago

I report people selling jailbroken systems and pirated games. I would report you too if I knew your info.

SoonDeadByOldAge1889d ago

SPEAKx: Yeah, II guess you are partly right in the thought that if you own the hardware you should be free to modify it to your hearts desire. Surely you shouldn’t be put in jail for modifying your own system, I agree on that.

But, but, buuuuht if you sell a modified system with pirated games preinstalled I’m sure you can agree that a hefty fine is in order, right?

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Sam Fisher1889d ago

He prbably mad a hella more than that, hell be fine hopefully

Smokehouse1889d ago

That’s it? Somebody at Sony took that shit personal lol. Made an example. I’m sure they have settled for 5x that in a much dumber lawsuit.

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Is Sony's Adaptive Difficulty A Good Idea?

Sony has been reported to be considering adding adaptive difficulty to all of its games. This feature would likely allow gamers to play more difficult games that usually have a skilled player barrier and also make it so hardcore gamers can get a good experience out of typically easier games.

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shinoff2183115d ago

I don't see an issue. I'm also sure it'd be an option that you could turn off to.

jambola115d ago

If optional yes
if not, awful idea

ApocalypseShadow115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

It should be optional but it would be more interesting to see gamers play more advanced AI. It's been a request since the beginning that NPCs and bots were more intelligent and tougher and not be stupid cannon fodder. This AI I'm guessing will adapt to the player. Which is cool. If the gamer sucks, the AI will suck. If the gamer is a bad ass, the AI will kick some ass and take names.

Based on GT7 Sophy, AI will definitely give gamers a run for their money.

jambola114d ago

sure
but I also don't ever want a case of playing a game I want to be hard, but then it get's easier because I die too much and removes that option
if it's 100% optional, I'm all for it
even ai adapting I'm not against
just any crap like, "you died too much so boss will suck to let you win easier" crap

Noskypeno114d ago

Yeah like everyone said, it should be optional. Sometimes I like to relax from the competitive mp and play a single player that's challenging but in a predictable way. I'll probably use it at times but sometimes I just want to have a soldier yell grenade 5 seconds before he throws it at you in perfect English.

ZeekQuattro115d ago

I don't have a problem with it. A number of games do this already depending on your playstyle.

porkChop114d ago

If you can turn it off? Sure. If it's forced, no it's a terrible idea. Imagine wanting a tougher experience but because you die a few times the game lowers the difficulty. That kind of defeats the purpose of the harder difficulty.

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Sony Wants to Know: 'Does Busting Make You Feel Good?'

A new ad for the PS VR2 sees Sony asking fans if "busting" makes them "feel good," leading to a lot of jokes online.

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Plague-Doctor27166d ago

Apparently this is a reference to Ghostbusters...??

blackblades166d ago

Didn't sound like it, sounds dirty

The_Hooligan166d ago

First it was the 19" of venom and now this 😂. Who's in charge of Sony's marketing team? lol

SICKINDIVIDUAL166d ago

Aww...snowflakes...too much for y'all to handle?

I remember a time when people weren't offended by this type of advertising.

Don't forget your helmet if going outside.

raWfodog166d ago

@sickindividual

I’m thinking how people these days would react to an ad showing an old lady asking “Where’s the beef?!”

blackblades166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

@raWfodog
Ads these days be so lewd. Like there's this one had on tv about internet speed saying "I need some of that big gig energy in my life" then sip on some tea with the Look while garage door slowly goes down. I'm not new to it at all cause theres been plenty over the years

raWfodog166d ago

@blackblades
We use to laugh at the ‘naughty’ ads back in the days but people today get so offended at the suggestion of sex in ads. It’s a different world.

Barlos165d ago

Nah, it sounds like a reference to Ghostbusters. That was the first thing that sprung to mind.

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Duke19166d ago

I ain’t ‘fraid of no ghost

zeuanimals165d ago

Let me tell you somethin'

FullmetalRoyale166d ago

You're right, no human being would use "bust" like that.

fr0sty166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

"Oh, Uh... There was a ghost! Uh-uh-uh... This is ectoplasm! Did you see the ghost? It ran through here and s-- it slimed me! That wasn't me it was a spooky ghost!"

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gold_drake166d ago

in general, yes. very good. lol

gold_drake166d ago

not gonna lie, that does feel good. ha.

-Foxtrot166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

Depends on my mood...

OtterX166d ago

It feels good whether you're in the mood or not.

The thing is, bustin' chooses you. You never know when it'll show up.

.... and just to be clear, we're talking about ghostbusting. 🙄

OtterX166d ago

Leaves me feelin' like a Marshmallow Man.

P_Bomb166d ago

That’s not ectoplasm! 😏

OtterX166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

😂😂😂
I ain't fraid of no ghost!

https://legendsrevealed.com...

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Sony: "Portion" of PlayStation First-Party Games Changes in Launch Date Impacted Profitability

According to Sony, changes to the launch dates of a "portion of first-party titles" impacted the company's profitability.

P_Bomb266d ago

“No word on which games were delayed, though”

Et tu, Factions? 🤔

KyRo266d ago

We barely know anything coming from Sony. It's all very quiet. Whatever they are doing they are playing it very differently to how they usually do it. For the people who aren't massively into superheros, it's a bit dry at the moment on the exclusive front.

isarai266d ago

I don't know why people are disagreeing, we only know of Spider-Man and Wolverine. We don't have any official announcement of anything else. It's been quiet for an unusual amount of time for PlayStation.

CS7266d ago

But we have the Gran Turismo movie and a live service game from Horizon /s

shinoff2183266d ago (Edited 266d ago )

Exactly why I got an xbox , starfield is way more intriguing then Spiderman 2. I'm not really into the superhero stuff. To this day I say my favorite ones were the ultimate alliance games. Spiderman 1 was pretty cool but I doesn't excite me like a starfield or rpg. I'm more excited for store ocean 2 remake then Spiderman 2. My ps5 will have some really deserved cool off time once starfield releases.

jivah265d ago

Crazy thing is that they've been eerily quiet on the Sony front. Like to the point where the let loose a few announcements just to tide us over. But we still have no idea the mountain of stuff that's on the way and being worked on. And to think its been this way since a large majority of gamers complained a few years ago, that Sony showed too much in advanced. And since then, they've held on super tight. Its never been this way.

Hedstrom265d ago (Edited 265d ago )

Am i the only one who is excited for Helldivers 2? I think it looks super fun.

https://youtube.com/watch?v...

FinalFantasyFanatic265d ago

@Hedstrom
I'm low key interested for the Starship Troopers vibe, unfortunately I couldn't get any friends to play the first game with me.

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seanpitt23266d ago

Ps5 lack of 1st party games is really showing 3 years into this gen and it's been pretty bad! All we have to look forward to is GOAS

PunksOnN4G266d ago

Lol funny xbox has had a last of 1st party for over 5-6 years now yal lcoming out saying its a problem for PS but did not once during those 6 years LOL xbox kids down bad but i get bros been last place for over a decade LOL

Amplitude266d ago (Edited 266d ago )

Sony's got some ballers in it's arsenal of games. I'd argue way better quality and quantity than Microsoft's got but neither are particularly amazing.

Im a bit underwhelmed by this entire gen on both fronts tbh. Lack of any sort of quality DLSS competitor on AMD's side of things really affected both of these consoles to an extreme and really kinda forced me to switch to PC this gen, which is where i've mostly just been playing older games anyway. I sold my Series X and just use the PS5 for the exclusives and multiplayer stuff with my friends. I kinda wish the entire concept of consoles would go away with how this gen is going. Subscription service wars, microtransactions, paid online which is still insane to me, flat out stupid game pricing with very little in the way of actual upgraded game concepts beyond graphics settings bump ups, practically completely unsupported borderline scam accessories like the PSVR2 and dumb nonsense like the PSVR1 requiring a separate camera than the PS5 Camera. Hell we only just recently even got basic amenities like 1440p and Dolby Atmos over on PS5, and Atmos is almost unusable on the Series consoles.

The software experience and the hardware's all hella disappointing tbh and Insomniac Games is really the only company i can think of pushing the hardware to an extreme at the moment, with their SSD craziness in Ratchet and Spiderman 2, 60FPS RT and 40FPS modes, 3D audio, crazy impressive animation and post processing effects and clear benefits to the actual games. Mad props to them man

fr0sty265d ago

Series S/X didn't have a single first party exclusive game for the first 2 years of their lives... yet certain folks were curiously quiet about that...

CS7265d ago

Why in high heavens is everything about Xbox vs PS5 in here?

It is an article about the PS5.

Xbox's first party output has been garbage for over a decade, no one cares.

Playstation's known upcoming offerings is probably the driest it has ever been in three generations and these kids only care about "hurrr durrrr but but Xbox has even less games!11!!!!"

I don't care about Xbox, I bought a Playstation to play next generation exclusives and that HAS been lacking this gen and the future really isn't looking too bright.

InUrFoxHole265d ago (Edited 265d ago )

Surprise! Here comes the but but the other system... Dude just accept it for what it is. You can't keep covering for these companies like they care about you. They'll screw you over every chance they get, just to grab your $$$. The sooner you stop protecting that piece of plastic the sooner you can see things as a consumer and demand better.

FinalFantasyFanatic265d ago (Edited 265d ago )

I've been pretty disappointed with PS this gen, I haven't even felt much of a need to invest in a PS5 yet.

I really miss those really great games, especially JRPGs, which is why I'm happy to help fund games on Kickstarter like Armed Fantasia, 100 Heroes, Penny Blood... I'm still on the fence about whether I'll help out with Ratatan yet, Sony just isn't helping fund these games or giving them the support to thrive on their console this gen.

fr0sty265d ago

You call yourself final fantasy fanatic and yet you see no reason to invest in ps5, despite two of the best games in the series being released this year for it?

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Ashunderfire86266d ago

We got so many games coming out this year, why even complain? Many games are making their target release date. Sony got some VR games as well coming and a horror survival game this month for PS5

Ashunderfire86266d ago

Yes Fort Solis PS5 console exclusive, and Daymare 1994 all this month! Horror survival or Survival horror you know what I mean 😆 you can Google all this info like I did. PS5 also has Spiderman 2 we obviously know coming October and HellDivers 2! For the 2 people that disagree needs to do a Google search! This year is stacked with games already.

DOMination-266d ago

Chasing the live service genre is a huge gamble. If they get one hit that's on par with today's heavy hitters, then the investment will be worth it 100x. But history tells us that a huge % of these titles fail - even ones from established studios with AAA budgets.

Over the last two generations, Sony have excelled in making brilliant cinematic single player games. Those games helped them to be the number 1 publisher for both revenue and profits and by quite some distance. Hopefully the lack of releases recently isn't a sign of the business pivoting to a completely different model because frankly, that'll suck. The current model is both commercially and critically successfully so it doesn't need changing on a whim just to chase the GaaS big bucks! #prayforplaystation

Chevalier266d ago

Agreed I really hope they don't pivot too much into GaaS and have a balanced approach with lots of single player story driven games mixed in.

Tacoboto266d ago

Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name.

Magatsuhi266d ago

They have to pivot. With MS buying up everything they can't be reliant on the revenue brought in by 3rd party games anymore and that's what they use to fund alot of these 1st party games. So now they need a successful gaas game to bring in that extra cash flow to fund more 1st party games.

Chevalier266d ago

"Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name."

And yet Playstation releases SP games regularly and Goty ones too. What's the last Goty Xbox game?! Oh right nothing AAA Goty in how many years?! Lol.

Don't get me wrong Xbox has some SP games on the way, but, so far not consistently and no Goty contenders that come close to Playstation.

Amplitude262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

I'd argue that Hi-Fi Rush is a solid candidate for GOTY. That was a good-ass game.
That's about it though lol

talocaca266d ago

Hopefully that means a packed 2024.

I'm mostly surprised that we still don't even know what their major studios are up to. Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog (single player), Bluepoint, Team Asobi, Media Molecule....

Amplitude262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

I kinda get it. These games take forever to develop and Sony's been announcing games much closer to their release dates these days which I think is smart.

Asobi and Media Molecule though, yeah - been a real long while. I still really do think Dreams is salvageable if Sony put in an ounce of effort. Could even be a huge system-seller with a rebrand, ad campaign, pc release, and maybe even a free version of the "Play" mode with ads that could pay creators. The general public doesn't even know Dreams exists and i think anybody that does know it exists would entirely approve of pushing it in any new way

Petebloodyonion266d ago

No Sh+t Louise, Delaying a game to the next quarter means that we won't have the profit of that game this quarter like we budget last year!

I'm Glad we have a complete article on the main page explaining these important things.

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