Microsoft Seems To Have No Interest In VR, Next Xbox May Not Have It, Says Dev

"No matter how much I ask, I never get any news on Microsoft VR," says Tessera Studios' Pablo Lafora.

[maybelovehate]

You mean on Xbox. They have VR built into Windows 10.

[StormSnooper]

Honestly I find it IMPOSSIBLE that MS would go another generation without a VR headset. They will be doomed if they don’t at the very LEAST mention at reveal of Xbox Two that there will be a VR headset soon.

[DillyDilly]

VR is still unproven

[StormSnooper]

How is it unproven? And does that mean MS doesn’t do anything unless somebody else proves it first?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Doomed? Really absolutely not MS needs to stay laser focused on 1st party for awhile. Venturing off spreading themselves thin on VR shouldn't be their focused.

[darthv72]

They dont have to support it. So why is that a problem for them if they dont? News flash but each company can pretty much do their own thing if they want to.

[StormSnooper]

@Angelic
Xbox Two will be DOA without an answer to PSVR.

[Christopher]

I think it's fine. They should focus on perfecting their core business with their new investments and not the niche market of VR.They need fewer things to juggle right now. VR is still in its infancy and isn't a big money making element yet that their shareholders will mind anyway.

[Goldby]

@Angelic

VR will allow their 1st party developers to have more opportunities for games,

Ninja theory has experience in VR from Hellblade, they could easily have a small team working on a vr on

[DrumBeat]

"They will be doomed"

Lol.

[Mystogan]

I wouldn't say doomed lol. VR is not that big. But it would be nice to have it on Xbox. They can literally flip a switch and support all Windows Mixed Reality headsets. Those apps/games are built on UWP.

[maybelovehate]

I don't see a reason for them not to add support. Xbox does run Windows 10 which already supports it. My best guess is they are just worried about the Consumer Support aspect of VR. Some users love it, some users hate it and some users just get really sick.

[StormSnooper]

@mybelovedhate
I’m almost 100% sure they will announce a headset at reveal of Xbox Two. As to consumers, anyone who has actually tried it loves it. Convenience is an issue especially if people don’t have a stationary chair for gaming. But as to satisfaction, there will be no issues especially because next gen VR will be even better.

[The Wood]

Yeah. Get the basics before you go for the extras ala Kinect and by basics I mean first party output from management of old franchises to the creation of new.

[ABizzel1]

They don’t need one, and they can simply make it VR compatible and use Oculus or Vive.

[Godmars290]

@DillyDilly:
Unproven in that PSVR seems to be the only minimal success. The only thing offering VR a foothold in the general consumer market.

@AngelicIceDiamond:
"MS needs to stay laser focused on 1st party for awhile."

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When...when have they started...?

[rainslacker]

@Maybe

I think you're right, it makes sense to expand their DXVR to X2 because the API's are pretty close to their PC counterparts.

However, unless MS is actually in it to support it with their own software, they'd be leaving support up to 3rd party developers, and if they don't get enough of it, then it makes VR a hard sell on the system, which can make it harder to get adoption to get said 3rd party support, and then MS ends up with the blame for having a lackluster implementation of VR on their system.

So, technically, it makes sense, but from a business stand point, they'd have to actually want to make VR a viable aspect of their next system, and promote it as something that's worthwhile on the system, which would require they do what they can in house to make it a worthwhile product for their system.

But, as others have said, MS needs to focus on the core and get that straightened out, and if they're going to push XCloud, that isn't going to work well with VR. VR may just end up being a distraction for them if they go into it with a half interested attitude.

[Dom_Estos]

@DillyDilly

"VR is still unproven"

*Looks across room. Sees PSVR headset sitting there after recently using it and enjoying it for 2 years.*

Unproven? I must have been imaging myself using VR and having it working as well as I'd dreamed it would for two years, then. Maybe I'll wake up soon and have some Cornflakes?

[Imalwaysright]

Why would it be doomed? What makes you say that?

[The Wood]

Bit sensational there bro.

[StormSnooper]

@Wood
Lol, it’s probably the caps. I’m just saying there is no way they would not announce a headset when the announce the next Xbox. It would be a very bad move. A lot of people are excited for VR. Personally I’m looking forward to see what can be done in VR with more powerful hardware.

[thejigisup]

I think they'd be smarter to work in the AR space.

[derek]

MS hasn't proven they can create enough great games to support XBOX in general let alone an added VR platform. Its probably more than they can bare or be responsible for. Doesn't matter to me I will be sticking with Playstation next generation.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Storm Really now you wanna bet money? MS is doing just fine with out it now. Nextbox will be DOA with out AAA games line up launching right the next the new console everybody and their unborn child knows this its basically universal law at this point. I dunno where tf you been but MS has been struggling with AAA output, since forever now so no, hell no VR another device won't save them, but hurt them, like allot. "half of MS studios are now doing VR for nextbox" you really think that would go over well With gamers?

@gold once MS has 1st party trust back and 1st party on lock. Then yeah they can venture off and do VR because MS is trustworthy and competent in delivering consistent high quality and rated exclusives.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Microsoft will take the easy road and simply make Xbox compatible with Oculus and/or Vive.

[Christopher]

***Microsoft will take the easy road and simply make Xbox compatible with Oculus and/or Vive.***

Or both. And, honestly, I don't see that as a negative.

[UltraNova]

"Microsoft will take the easy road and simply make Xbox compatible with Oculus and/or Vive."

Exactly, they only need to make the API compatible on xbox one x and XB2. Thing is they need not depend on 3rd party only. They have to show 1st party support.

[sagapo]

Perhaps MS isn’t planning on creating a VR set of their own like Sony does, but add support for Oculus/HTC Vive on Xbox in the future? I dunno. I guess they wait it out a bit, to see if VR truly has a future in games.

[darthv72]

Not sure why you are getting disagrees. What you typed is factually correct. Windows 10 does have VR support while Xbox currently does not.

[Fluttershy77]

Yeah I think he meant on Xbox

[ILostMyMind]

It's in the title.

[maybelovehate]

The title reads, MS Seems To Have No Interest in VR, Next Xbox May Not Have it. So yeah, it isn't in the title. It is either clickbait or bs. I don't care either way, just pointing out that it is incorrect. Sorry if you don't like factual things pointed out.

[NarutoFox]

A comment from the article:

"This is why Windows is Microsoft's best gaming platform. Every 1st party game, and you have Windows Mixed Reality, or if you choose, HTC Vive or Oculus Rift are options as well.

Next gen I will get PS5 + PSVR2, and PC + WMR.

In my opinion, Microsoft is doing what they should have done all along and making Windows an amazing Gaming Platform. I think Xbox would be a better platform, if it was just a custom Windows PC for the Media Center. Give Windows every feature of the XBO on the gaming side, and give XB4 full blown Windows 10, and Microsoft would have an extremely competitive gaming brand with Xbox+Windows."

[IamTylerDurden1]

I remember Phil saying XB1X would be the premier console for VR, then completely shutting down any talk of VR and basically avoidingg the subject altogether.

[maybelovehate]

That is a fine argument. Phil runs Xbox, not Microsoft.

[Dragonscale]

Strawman argument.

[maybelovehate]

I didn't read the article, I was only arguing the Title. And he clearly says Microsoft. Again, don't care. Just pointing out the inaccuracy. But I know you love you some bias inaccuracy so have at it.

[alb1899]

They could led Xbox live be play on VR without utilize Xbox brand

[italiangamer]

Their loss

[DigitalRaptor]

True.

This is the story of Microsoft's investments in gaming though. Late effort, maximum profits. Gaming was actually in a pretty immature state before Sony got involved with PlayStation and sold gaming as something more than a kid's toy. As big as a brand as Xbox is, it's not even close to synonymous with gaming as PlayStation is to a global audience. Already at this stage Sony (along with Samsung and others) has helped shift the perception of VR as being an expensive thing for enthusiasts only. The later MS leaves it the less chance they have to make an impact as strong as Sony did with the original PS and retain an audience as strong as they have. I'm also guessing a Game Pass and streaming focus makes it harder to focus on something like VR where latency is paramount.

[CrimsonWing69]

oh cool, well I guess I'll stick with Sony then.

[glennhkboy]

Sony VR sales is not exactly flying off the shelf.....

[Liqu1d]

Compared to who?

[CrimsonWing69]

https://www.engadget.com/20...

Sold a million units in 8 months as of recent.

[TheTony316]

Actually, it's the best selling VR hardware.

[TheEnigma313]

MS is too far behind to try it now. They will just waste money.

[Mystogan]

They're really not far behind at all. VR is still in its infancy. There hasn't been that big boom yet that solidifies a market leader.

We're in the stage that any newcomer can come in and take the market by storm. But it hasn't happened yet.

[S2Killinit]

Dont fool yourself, it takes building relations in the VR community and getting experience making VR games. If MS doesnt respond with a VR headset, they will be infants compared to the competition.

[rainslacker]

Maybe not a big boon, but if MS doesn't get its foot in the door early, they're not going to be prepared when that big boon hits. Although I think it will remain niche for next gen as well. But if they go too long without being seen as having an interest in VR, it's not going to help them if they rely on others to do all the leg work for them. MS can't be a follower all the time and gain respect in the market, because MS is finding out most people aren't going to wait on them to get into the game before they buy in.

[ILostMyMind]

Yes, It will happen next generation... for those who have It. MS is out.

[ABizzel1]

@Mtstogan

There's a clear winner if we're talking about the "high-end" VR experience.

The problem is the "experience" part of VR. There simply isn't anything nor enough games that really show VR as a necessity for gamers at home. Until we're able to get immersive, AAA, high budget VR experiences across multiple genres VR won't be ready, and there's still improvements to be made with the technology such as in-game camera jerkiness by looking around too fast, controls / controllers, quality / resolution.

VR isn't where it needs to be on the PS4, don't get me wrong there is fun to be had, and it's an acceptable attempt, but the technology needs to evolve, and the PS5 will fix the quality aspect of VR, and hopefully a remodeled headset with better resolution, better controllers, and eventually better experiences.

[glennhkboy]

They are too far behind now is because the XBox One was designed & focus on a "Cool & proven tech" of Kinect. MS is wise to avoid another such trap.

[Youngindy21]

And Gamers have no interest in Xbox.

[Mystogan]

60 million people disagree. But keep telling yourself that.

[Liqu1d]

Lol, 60 million. You realise that 60 million MAU is across all platforms, not just Xbox? Considering how poorly Xbox sells it's clear interest in Xbox is dying.

[thexmanone]

Well this gamer has no interest in Sony, speak for yourself

[bluebenjamin]

After buying ps vita and ps4 pro and being disappointed with how Sony handled both devices I have no interest in Sony as well

[boing1]

Trust me when I say this. MS isn't happy with Xbox sales since launch. Nothing changed to this day. It's also hard for them to secure big exclusives from 3rd parties because of that. Them buying few studios was a very needed move.

[DonkeyWalrus]

And women have no interest in your micropenis

[Nacho_Z]

I think VR is going to be the future of gaming or at least a significant part of it, not a fad like 3D. Sony have done the right thing building a solid platform for it.

[anonymousfan]

I agree but I feel adoption rate is pretty slow meanwhile I just got myself a PSVR 2 weeks ago and I love it. It's like falling in love with gaming all over again. :)

[Nacho_Z]

It probably is quite slow but you've got one, I'm getting one soon and I don't know about you but I was never that bothered before. It feels like it's turned a corner from novelty to must have to me.

[Goldby]

super hot,
Tetris effect,
Beat saber
Moss,
Astro B,
RE7

all must owns for VR

[S2Killinit]

@Goldby
Firewall

[anonymousfan]

@Goldby if all I ever played was beat saber and astro bot the PSVR would still have been worth a purchase :)

[LamerTamer]

Farpoint is good with the aim controller. Firewall is online MP only so it is not for some.

[crazyCoconuts]

I agree. The second generation of PSVR will certainly have better tracking, better resolution, and less wires. And almost certainly will have backwards compability with existing PSVR library with built in upscaling to help existing games look a little better. They're in a strong position.

[Mystogan]

Microsoft also has a solid platform on Windows. They're just not investing too much in it right now.

[mkis007]

Ya people have trouble connecting vr popularity to original gaming popularity. In the 70's and 80's . They just see attach rates and assume its bad with no thought to the unfamiliarity of the tech.

[StormSnooper]

These guys call themselves gamers but can’t even see that we are ushering a new generation similar to back when games went from 2D to 3D in the 1980s.

[Cobra951]

No chance of that unless they can reduce the headgear to something that looks like sunglasses and earbuds. A cumbersome head gadget out of a bad Flash Gordon movie or "Sixteen Candles" will never become mainstream.

[Nacho_Z]

If it follows pretty much every other technology ever, it'll start off big and cumbersome and end up as small as you like. Think how big and heavy TVs were and how thin and light they are now.

[jznrpg]

MS has little interest in games in general and more interest in subs

[AngelicIceDiamond]

How so?

[S2Killinit]

Well, I mean,come on, they dont have interest in VR?! WTF? Isnt it time that MS gets with the times? Or is services where they want to take us?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

VR isnt end all be all and you know damn well MS cant afford to work towards anything that isnt outside the AAA space right now.

[Liqu1d]

Every event they hype up Gamepass rather than new games. They release trash like Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2 to fill out their Gamepass offerings and offer $1 or $2 deals alongside these releases to boost subscriptions. Every 1st party releases day 1 on Gamepass. MS are going to be pushing xCloud on every device.

And before you say "but Sony", Sony actually focus on trying to deliver quality games above everything else, MS don't.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Well gee liquid if I had a magic lamp I would wish for new AAA's from those news studios to drop next week. Stop acting MS recent games are future quality of xbox titles. Don't go down ignorant lane.

[Einhander1971]

Microsoft’s loss in my opinion, PSVR is absolutely stunning. I’m sure VR will evolve:)

[thexmanone]

I don`t

[gamer7804]

good, id rather the resources be spent elsewhere like their new game studios.

[Fluttershy77]

Like the resources well spent on crackdown 3

[gamer7804]

I was one of the first to say crackdown looked terrible, and I still think the way they launched wrecking zone was terrible not being able to play with friends. But after having tried the campaign, even though the controls are very old school, its pretty fun. I'd give crackdown campaign like a 7.5/10 and the wrecking zone a 4/10.

That said, crackdown is the last bastion of games under the Microsoft Studios label. I think the new studios will have more creative freedom and release good games. So yah, still either way much better than funding VR at its current state.

[S2Killinit]

Like PR campaigns. And celebrities on their E3 stage.

[Nitrowolf2]

Yeah but celebrities appearances are well worth the investment, they have given us some of the most memorable, cringiest E3 moments

[gamer7804]

Nearly all companies have those come from different cost centers which are budgeted differently, so that would go under marketing. Marketing a game is very different than the money used to develop a game and actually make it good.

[Firebird360]

Vr is the new 3d, is the new ps move, is the new kinect.
It's a fad, itll never be more than a niche product.

[S2Killinit]

Nice try.

[Abnor_Mal]

Just like the XBox One this gen. Niche.

[chiefJohn117]

45 Million is Niche?

[Babadook7]

45 million is niche. And xbone hasn’t even gotten there yet.

[Abnor_Mal]

@chiefJohn117 Where did you get 45 million from? Certainly not Microsoft cause remember they're not releasing numbers because they are about a new metric. Even the Switch is about to eclipse MS hidden numbers with a less powerful machine and less time on the market. If that's not niche, then it's a damn shame to be outsold so eaisly.Let me take a guess ME "survive together" means that they will be adding their sales along with Nintendo sales and say see it's tied 90 million. But, no they can't because they're too scared to release official number, so all you can do is guess.

[chiefJohn117]

Like I said 45 million is Niche? Half the people I know game on Xbox one. Maybe in Japan it's niche but not in NA

[OneEyedSteve]

I don't k ow anyone who is even slightly interested in VR.

[S2Killinit]

Hi

[Abnor_Mal]

Hello there, neighborino.

[crazyCoconuts]

Open your eye!

[crazyCoconuts]

I couldn't resist. Seriously though if you're not seeing stereocopically, VR wouldn't be as impressive, I respect that.

[StormSnooper]

Nice to meet you.

[The Wood]

I thought we were friends :(

[ARESWARLORD]

I have no interest in VR either it's a fad like 3D at this point in my honest opinion

[howiewowwee]

yup crappy graphics, headaches, dizziness, too many cords and nausea is what for next gen!!

[supes_24]

Some people experience and VR, obviously isn’t for them. I love my PSVR headset. There are a lot of cords but guess what, this is the beginning, the starting platform. I’m glad I supported it, I hope it makes enough to make it even more enhanced using better tech for the PS5. I’m in if there are certain upgrades, should be less cords but if not, oh well. I’m still getting it

[pyroxxx]

They hardly even support the console,.. how on earth are they going to make interesting stuff with VR?

[S2Killinit]

This news, if true, is like a nail in xbox’s cofin. I doubt MS would be that stupid.

[Fishy Fingers]

What percentage of PS owners have PSVR, 3%?

Wouldn't say that makes or breaks a console and frankly it gets less attention now than it did 12 months ago, its hardly even present at PS pressers of late.

[S2Killinit]

The fact is that VR is getting more and more exposure. Some of the games are the most satisfying of the generation. It will attract a lot more people in the next generation especially as the hardware becomes more capable. There will be tons of people who DONT have headsets this generation, but buy their next console with VR in mind. Some of them will be xbox owners who would have bought a headset if they could.

Oh and VR has exploded within the last 12 months, because the games have matured. We’ve had the most number of heavy hitters this last year.

[Babadook7]

It’s getting more and more time in ps pressers.

[Fishy Fingers]

Be surprised (if VR maintains a respectable userbase) if they didn't at the least partner and support an existing/future (PC) headset.

Personally I think by the end of next gen and for some years yet VR will still only be interested in or used by the minority of gamers.

[crazyCoconuts]

Yeah, they'll come in late to the party, and MAYBE they'll do alright even though others have established a solid foundation.

[OpenGL]

How much this matters depends on how good the PS5 version of PSVR is, as there will definitely be a new headset released with the new machine. If they manage to go full wireless and improve the image quality and a bunch of other things, not having something similar could actually be a big deal.

[StormSnooper]

Yes. Sony has already said that much like how your phone went from those little Nokia’s to iphone, you won’t recognize VR in 10 years time.

[rainslacker]

Best thing Sony could do is release PSVR2 at the same time as the PS5. Maybe even make a bundle. People who buy launch consoles are more likely to spend money on such things, and with inevitable console shortages in the first month or two, people will spend more for the VR bundles.

Improving on it's design and operation would be a big benefit, and making it more affordable would pretty much make it succeed heavily next gen. Sony invested a lot this gen into VR, and they've seen success, not just in the hardware, but the software sales, which have been pretty impressive, so no doubt they aren't ready to abandon it.

[crazyCoconuts]

Minimally they should do the same thing they did with PS4 and build the tracking into controllers. I agree though, would be nice for it to come out together, as difficult as that would be.

[BenRC01]

Recently got back into psvr, there's nothing quite like stepping into those worlds.
It's also impossible to describe how good it is to someone who hasn't tried it.
Showed a few mates ace combat 7, they were speechless.

[Traecy]

It's still a niche product,their fan base probably doesn't really care one way or the other.

[porkChop]

They have VR headsets already with WMR. It's doubtful that the next Xbox wouldn't support them.

[crazyCoconuts]

They've failed because you need to do more than just support them via an API. You have to invest and promote Especially true for consoles.

[porkChop]

The WMR headsets are also supported by Steam VR, and many of the VR games on Steam support those headsets. Sure, they could absolutely use more support. But the headsets work, they're cheap, and they're super easy to set up. There's no reason to not push WMR with the next Xbox.

[crazyCoconuts]

@porkchop, yes they work, just not successful from a sales perspective. I think MS would use their own API, like the WMR headsets do, but would want to partner with one company or make their own. Reduced choice but guaranteed consistency is the console way

[ApocalypseShadow]

You don't support PC VR by not making your own headset or making any games.

Riding off the back of other company's successful ecosystems like steam and oculus is not support. It's lazy like their first party games.

[Profchaos]

Ms had Bethesda announce fallout 4 VR during the Xbox one X reveal and they stated we are thrilled to finally have a console capable of running fallout 4 in VR.

Now if anyone walked away from that company conference under the impression that Ms was building a VR headset for the xbox you can't blame them.

Ive been a supporter of VR for a long time I still use my psvr frequently (not that I would be biased to one platform as the VR community usually embrace every platform available) the tech is in its early days but has a lot of potential it's a shame to see ms not embrace it

[Abnor_Mal]

Fascinating how when Sony didn't buy into EA Access, or they don't have their own Game Pass service, or didn't opt into cross play a certain set said they were dumb and foolish. Yet when MS didn't invest first party games, or single player games it was said they don't need them. Now at the tail end of the gen MS buy some studios to bolster their first party studios and investing in single player games with more cinematic story telling, suddenly those same people are celebrating. Now that Quantic Dreams are multiplatform it's now great and everyone will get s chance to play their games. Celebrating cause they got a few dev's from some Sony studios. suddenly it's fantastic as if those devs were the brains behind all of Sony first party games and now Sony is doomed. Getting excited cause there's a gilmmer of hope of finally getting Nioh on their console, when before calling the game niche and a knock off Dark Soul and whatnot. Finally getting Final Fantasy10 and others in the series after twenty odd years, now it's a win. High fives all around. Yes, every company is free to do what they want, but why is it that one is celebrated while the other is basically spat on for doing the same and making their own choice for their platform and users. Nothing is ever of importance until MS are involved or reverse course. Next XBox better be called the XBox One Eighty, watch it be celebrated.

Oh did anyone else hear a rumor of Scalebound now coming to the Nintendo Switch?

[S2Killinit]

Lol “xbox one eighty”
But i really doubt they want to direct attention to how badly they did this gen when people are deciding which console to buy next gen.

[Abnor_Mal]

I'm sure they don't want direct attention but their behavior this gen already had the center stage spotlight shine bright on them, but again a certain subset will say that everything was fault of the old guards and not the current. Look at Crackdown and how after all this talk all gen about cloud power, then the game fails miserably like all (most) of the other first party games they had, the blame was shifted back to Mattrick and not Spencer who continued to green light the development. Now Crackdown isn't a first party game because it was contracted out to Sumo Digital, yet not too long ago it was said that regardless of who made a game it was considered first party. Everyone conveniently forgetting when they MS said as much. So are Ori and Cuphead first party or not, are the third party indie niche games or not? Revisionist history at its finest, 1984, let's burn all the books that say the sky is blue because now we want to say the sky has always been green. You better fall in line and tow that same line, lest ye be taken away and reprogrammed or never be seen again. The next XBox won't be called the One Eighty because history will claim that 24HR check ins were never suggested, nor no selling used games. Neither was the inability to just flip a switch and reverse the necessity of kinect. There was never an XBox One which was less powerful than the base PS4, and the XBox One X was the only console from the start of the generation, and all the other nonsense that was part of the gen but was revised. MS are creating a dystopian future where what was, wasn't, and what is, is how things have always been. Yet somewhere in the middle of next gen they will still be pointing and laughing saying remember the great Sony hack of generation seven. How MS have always tried to have crossplay with all consoles, disregarding when they themselves said in gen7 that they were not willing to do crossplay with other platforms. Now it's "survive together", now they want their games/software on all platforms, Netflix of gaming yada yada yada.
I said it before, soon they will be demanding that Sony release all their first party games on all platforms so that they can say "all games play best on XBox". See how the fanboys get happy when they do get a third party Sony exclusive after decades, brainwashed. How at one time metacritic was important now it isn't. How first to ten million wins the gen, now sales don't matter and hide their numbers under a large rock. It's about monthly active users or what ever it is called. Everything is, until it isn't. I have not seen one commercial for Crackdown3 on TV or YouTube, yet we will get numbers of how many played the game and how many cardboard building where knocked down. How many Terry Crews were in the wrecking zone. How many orbeez were collected, how many times boost was activated. Game is a steaming pile of horse shhhhh, even the old game Narc on PS2 had the decency to be twenty dollars new and was a physical game not requiring a sub service to help it "sell". Spit.
I'm truly sorry for ranting on a crate of Ivory but this gets tiring seeing day in and day out, the straight denial of some. I generally never comment so much and only speak about Sony games that I personally buy and play, but it seems every once in a while I have to get out of my lane and say something about what's going on in the comment sections.

Neo after he destroyed Agent Smith and flexed warped the hallway around him.

Fin.

[chiefJohn117]

🌈IMAGINATION

[AK91]

There might not be another Xbox after the Scarlett so this isn't surprising.

[Futureshark]

Another USP for Sony, with the potential power of the PS5 and improved small displays, PSVR will only get better.

[Greedsin]

Well considering when everyone was hopping on VR headsets a bit ago they decided to focus on a AR headset instead, honestly that's normal for Microsoft. It was sort of the same thing when it came down to motion controls. Sony came out with PS Move where you still needed controllers, which everyone agreed it was just a HD Wii at the time, while Microsoft wanted to do something different and made the Kinect, where the controller was 'YOU' for the most part.

They seem to at the least try something different compared to hopping on board with everyone else, tho maybe with the next Xbox they might not make their own headset but maybe allow other headsets to be used if wanted to? We'll have to see I guess.

Also before anyone asks, yes the Kinect was a piece of shit. The only game I truly loved on that thing was Dance Central but the rest can stay in the grave where it belongs at this point.

[chiefJohn117]

For me VR doesnt have enough support and not cheap enough. Not paying $400+ to play 2 damn games. If you could guarantee all 1st party titles had VR support (God of war in vr! Halo 5 in vr!) And top 3rd party titles then yeah could be a worthy investment. But till then it's a no. People still talking about the same old games. What's new. Plus from a Dev standpoint it may not be worth creating for

[StormSnooper]

Uhhh I bought one for my gf’s brother for $199 and it came with two games: Moss and Astro Bot.
There is over 200 PSVR games. (That’s more exclusives than the entire Xbox division).
It actually has must have titles like Firewall and Astrobot which is more than you can say for Xbox at this point unfortunately, AND they were released this year.
Firewall is mind-blowing good. Here is a video explaining why it’s better than Rainbow Six Siege (an acclaimed MP game)

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

Your information is very old. And wrong.

[chiefJohn117]

Someone's mad over 200 games!!! Wow that's amazing yet you could only name two good titles both which don't impress me personally. Like I said current gen VR isn't even in the discussion. When VR can run top titles and get major support and at a reasonable price (cheaper than the actual console itself) then we'll talk till then VR is no no me.

Lol astrobot, that's trash compared to a gow of war 4 vr or an AAA halo VR experience

[salmonade]

They also seem to have no interest in quality exclusive games

[EpicFruityPie]

Vr not yet but will be the way of the future one day at least to not start now will be a mistake but hey that all ms does

[Dom_Estos]

No interest in VR, you say? Cheerio MS, I say.

Honestly, starting to think your first two consoles were a fluke or a flash in the pan. You did well with the Xbox, 360 was an amazing console, RRoD aside. But now? Well, now you've shown a keen interest only in ploughing yourselves into the dirt. Soon to join the company of Atari, Sega, and Panasonic as console makers of the past, and good riddance. Such a real fucking shame, because, as I said, the 360 era was fantastic, and you really should have been pushing Sony harder to do better, because it works out better for everyone. Instead MS seem intent on doing one thing, and one thing only: bullshitting, coning, and fleecing people out of pocket. Nothing buy lies after lies. Stick your X1X and your next gen system up your hoops. VR is the future, and to neglect it just shows the lack of ambition and forward thinking.

[VTKC]

Must be too busy with all the up coming exclusives to do VR.

[bannhammer07]

I've heard rumors that Xbox and Oculus are working together. So either this person is lying or the rumors are untrue. One thing I know for sure though is, if you're a true VR enthusiast then you don't want your VR tethered to a console. From what I've seen mobile sets like the Oculus Go and Oculus Quest are where the industry is going. Why would you play Moss on PS4 when you can play it one the Quest free from any wires? I've also heard pretty solid rumors that Nintendo Labo is getting VR support, untethered. Next gen if your relying on a console for VR you'll be using outdated tech.

[Flewid638]

Im a pretty die hard PS loyalist and I have no desire for it either. More power to those who enjoy it though.

[LandoCalrissiano]

Cool, me neither.

[bluebenjamin]

are the people ready to attach the VR glasses because they may look goofy to the mass population

[Thundercat77]

Microsoft is struggling with normal gaming. There is no way they can venture into VR. They just cannot handle it right.

Sony took the risk and right now they are dominating the VR market too.

[Orionsangel]

VR is still too expensive for me. The games have to get a lot better for me to warrant forking over that much cash. Right now it doesn't seem worth it.

[oneconsoleonly]

lol another bad move.

[DVAcme]

Wait til Star Citizen drops for next-gen and Sony has the only console with VR capability. Microsfot will get loads of egg on their face.

[glennhkboy]

I think this is the few good decision of Xbox lately. Don't waste any (more) money & time on these kinds of "Cool" tech.

[Scatpants]

It's a shame I'll never buy another Forza game until they are in VR. I don't do flat racing games anymore.

[Kaii]

I'd wait until the one after the next iteration, It's "ok", but on ps4 way too many cables, that's not my only negative, I could only play rigs for say 5 minutes until I wanted to spew vomit :C

[QuePasa87]

At least release higher quality and more first party content if you're going to ignore VR...

[DiRtY]

VR hasn’t taken the world by storm as a lot of people hoped it would.

The sales figures are still not there yet and the software support is clearly lacking. So, I would not bet on VR either.

[Elda]

It's still a niche product,maybe when developers start making better games & the helmet is wireless & affordable.

[Stanjara]

They got burned on that Kinect thing.

[Latex74]

I too believe we see no vr from xbox next gen shame but I'll just have to stick with ps4 maybe ps5 im in from day one . I want a new next gen head set bad do love vr

[Imortus_san]

The day the VR sets drops to 150€ with proper AAA games, proper resolution, easy to use, light and wireless, that will be the day VR truly triumphs and sells million upon millions.

[tagzskie]

It's just feels like yesterday that phil announced fallout 4 vr in xbox x, And the xbois rejoicing they can experience TRUE VR, now things have change..

[Mroc13]

I dont see a problem here for xbox. Once they start putting out more and better first party games that should be enough for most gamers. I only have a Pro and have heavily invested in PSVR. It's a great and revolutionary experience especially for someone who grew up on NES. That being said it's not for everyone and for me it's more of a niche thing. Traditional gaming will always be the main seller until VR get a lot better in terms of graphics, comfort and afford-ability. xbox just needs great games to get people caring again.

[BLUEKNIFE]

If MS only delivers mediocre flat games, I don't want to think what they would do on VR. I think they better stay out of this, nobody needs them.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Of course not...MS rather be late to every trend then try to copy like Smart phones, tablets, Gaming, VR..par for the course. It's why outsdie of their MS office/Windows/Azure monopoly they struggle.

[Bluemaster77]

I mean, VR hasn't really set the world on fire. Don't really see a need to heavily invest in it.

[TheEroica]

Smart! VR sucks... And it's never gonna get you a girlfriend.