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Forza Horizon 2 and all DLC being Delisted on Xbox Live on September 30

"If you’ve yet to purchase Forza Horizon 2 or any of the downloadable content and you had plans to you may want to act soon as it’s going away."

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monochromer2078d ago

I don't understand this. Why make it unavailable to buy? Normal companies don't do this. This isn't a thing.

addictedtochaos2078d ago

Likely expiring licenses for cars or music.

Segata2077d ago

Imaging not being able to rent or buy a movie anymore because "expiring license" of some product in the film.

fathertime44642077d ago

@segata
It did happen with the movie Prometheus

Cobra9512077d ago

Yeah, but it shouldn't be. Once a product is put together, nothing should stop its continued sale. I can understand not being able to add anything new to it, but that's all.

aconnellan2078d ago

Pretty sure it’s a music licensing thing. I don’t fully get it, but that’s supposedly the issue. Same thing happened with Horizon 1.

The game is free this month with gold though, so if people wanted to pick it up before it leaves the store then it’s free.

playnice2078d ago (Edited 2078d ago )

I'm shocked! This adds to my long list of reasons why I hate current digital games implementations. They should be patching the game to remove unliscenced songs and keep it as a download option for completed purchases and simply remove option to buy. The day videogames go 100 % digital will be the day I stop buying games.

MasterChief36242078d ago

It happened to the first game, but the first game is back now! Hopefully this happens with 2.

The 10th Rider2077d ago

@playnice,

It's also an issue with movie streaming. They lose the right to a song and then it gets swapped for something else. If that ever happens with physical copies, you can always buy a used copy. If it happens with a streaming only film then the only way to get the original version would be to pirate it.

Segata2077d ago

Why not patch the licensed music out and replace it with some generic racing music?

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Cobra9512077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Shaggy, I don't think anyone is saying that it won't be available to current owners. We understand that it just applies to new sales.

Edit: Oh, wait. Yeah, playnice is saying that. I think he's the only one confused. Hopefully now he isn't anymore.

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starsi3602078d ago (Edited 2078d ago )

@playnice

If you own it you can still download it after the date. With the original music etc, nothing patched. It’s just you cant BUY it digitally after that date.

shiva12077d ago

Along with all the dlc... Its just not available for sale. Physical discs wont be manufactured further... The problem with existing physical copies on shelves is you will only get the game... No DLC or additional cars which is worse unless there is a complete edition.

playnice2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Well that does make a lot more sense, thx

Segata2076d ago

fathertime4464

I can rent Prometheus for $3 on Amazon,Google,Vudu,Fandango right now if I wanted.

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showtimefolks2078d ago

Welcome to digital only for those of you pushing so hard that's what physical media is and will always be king

Reeder19842078d ago

Do you not think this is more likely minor teething issues while the industry as a whole move towards a digital distribution method? It's not like movies/TV get removed due to licensing issues. This will be a non issue in 1-2 years time, as most licensing contracts will take into account the changing dynamics in the video game industry.

Sgt_Slaughter2078d ago

You say that as if it's a sure thing. If it's that easy, why haven't they done it already?

The 10th Rider2077d ago

Movies/TV are sometimes altered due to liscensing issues.

rainslacker2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

I wouldn't count on licensing issues going away in 1-2 years. They've been an issue in movies for decades now. Not that it won't get remedied at some point, but 1-2 years is being generous.

The reason most of these games do licensing like this is because its cheaper to use such things for a shorter period of time. If its longer, you have to pay more, and possibly pay royalties after initial printings.

spicelicka2077d ago

Movie/TV are a different animal, they can be streamed and run on basically any device. This particular problem may be a teething issue, but there could be many similar problems with digital-only that we haven't even faced yet.

Hell there are already problems I can foresee. Price control being one of them. Movies make most of their money from theaters, after that people rent/pirate/stream whatever they want so no one complains. They don't try to make money from movies 5 years after releasing. With games digital only means publishers can keep the game at a steady price for years and years. There are 5 year old games on the xbox store for $50, that I can buy physically for $10 at any time.

The OPTION to have a digital library great, but forcing it down our throats is not. Not saying digital-only won't happen, just saying this is why I'm against it.

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OMGitzThatGuy2078d ago

If you bought the game physically then you have no problem, if you have the game digitally then you have no problem. You can still download and play as usual, you just wont be able to buy it digitally. They are even give the game away free for gold members. The only people this affects are people who decide that they want to buy the game digitally 4 years later, and that is the fault of the person, not because the game is digital.

King_Noctis2078d ago

With FH4 coming out soon, I don’t know why anyone would want FH2 at this point.

MasterChief36242078d ago

@King_Noctis <------ Found the person that never played Forza Horizon 2.

Yi-Long2078d ago

... except they could force an update on your existing game that removes content, like they did with GTA4 a while ago, where they ripped out a whole bunch of songs...

spicelicka2077d ago

Lol what, how is it the fault of the person? You should be allowed to buy a game whenever you want. This just highlight how dumb digital-only is.

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Dragonscale2078d ago

@showtime, agreed. Prime example.

jaycptza2077d ago

How is this different to physical media? If you purchased it previously you can still download it until Live is shut down. You definitely won't be able to find a new copy (physical) of this game. It is weird for a first party game to be taken off the owners purchase platform for sure

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slasaru012078d ago

Here's bright shiny digital future for You. Damn

Sgt_Slaughter2078d ago

Love whenever you bring this up as an issue for an "all digital future" there's never really a counter argument, they just give you disagrees like it'll matter.

OMGitzThatGuy2078d ago

No one is playing this game let alone buying it, so please, tell me who are affected by this?

rainslacker2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

All those people fussing about preserving gaming history I suppose. Been kind of a hot topic the past week or so. Otherwise, on a game like this, which sees yearly or bi-yearly releases, it's probably not that big of a deal since people move on. However, there could be other games which do this which may not fall into that category, and people may want to play them further down the line. Like recently, I got the new Mirrors Edge for $5, so it would suck if it had to be removed before I decided to get it to try it out.

@Jinger

I'm sure that FH2 would be easily found 2nd hand. Its a good game,but that doesn't really matter in the 2nd hand market for 99.9% of the games out there. It's and older title, and is a bi-annual release. Games like that tend to be in the bargain bin at gamestop. It's currently $25 used at GameStop, and when the next one comes out, and with it now being free for XBL owners, it'll like go down even more.

Jinger2077d ago

The counter argument is that:

1. The game isn't being removed from your library if You already own it digitally.

2. If you're lucky enough you still may be able to find a used copy, considering they aren't making any new ones at this point anyway.

Bonus: Microsoft is actually giving the game away with Games With Gold this month so anyone with an Xbox can DL it before it gets delisted.

shiva12077d ago

Really... You say this as an issue. I own this game digitally. Tell me what are the problems that i will be facing in after two months.

My friend owns a physical copy of base game. What are the problems he's going to face in two months?
I have down voted you as you say this as an issue. I will tell my reasons for down voting if you can explain in detail what that or those issues id experience.

spicelicka2077d ago

"Really... You say this as an issue. I own this game digitally. Tell me what are the problems that i will be facing in after two months."
It's a problem even if you won't be facing it personally. Do you own every game that has released 4 year ago? What if it happens to every other game from the past, soon enough you might want an old game that you can't buy anymore.

"My friend owns a physical copy of base game. What are the problems he's going to face in two months? "
That's because we are not in a digital-only future yet lol, you just proved the point. If we went all digital 4 years ago no one would be able to buy the base game in two months. Prime opportunity for the publisher to re-release it in some "complete edition" and charge full price again. Do you not see the problem with that?

RememberThe3572077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

It's an issue. That doesn't mean the sky is falling. Customers rightly don't trust cooperate enitities to have their best interests at heart. What do these companies what the all digital future to be? Do they want people freely using the products they buy or would they rether restrict usage to create demand? Remmeber how Disney would only have limited runs of their VHS/DVD movies so that their would be months or even years between when you could buy The Loin King or Aladin or whatever? There's reason behind peoples concerns, they're not just screaming fire in a movie theater because we saw a Bic lighter. They're saying they don't trust, which is reasonable.

EmperorDalek2078d ago (Edited 2078d ago )

Good that anyone who already owns it will still be able to download and play it.

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Looking Back To 2014 and Forza Horizon 2

Paul writes: "Forza Horizon 2 then, a game from 2014 - a game that still stands up today"

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xRacer74x1670d ago

Would love to see a PC port of this game Forza 3 and 4 are just gorgeous on XBOX but Jaw dropping on PC.

ilikestuff1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

I remember when gran turismo was the driving sim king, I miss those days, I played the crap out of gt1, took me forever to get enough credits to get that viper, gt2 brought those muscle cars! Gt3 was a banger, gt4 was the downfall in my opinion, it was like they half assed the game, I think at one point they scanned a model car and used the bottom of it for the bottom of a car on their game. They gave up the crown and dont seem to care. Man though, gt1,2, and 3 were great.

sizeofyou1669d ago

Seriously even comparing FH to GT? 🤔

sampsonon1670d ago

not like DC does. they were 10 yrs ahead of their time.
https://youtu.be/pBEip6goHb...

but FH2 was pretty good as well.

ilikestuff1670d ago

Awesome video, those weather effects are nuts. I know that game didn’t start off to good but they should’ve gave them one more chance before they got shit down. Loved motorstorm

sampsonon1669d ago

i made sure i bought it before they de listed it from the ps store. those graphics are still one of the best this gen. and the best when it comes to realism. it looks soo real sometimes.

ramiuk11670d ago

i was blown away by driveclub ,infact still am tbh...
the rain !!!!!!!!!

porkChop1670d ago

DriveClub had some really impressive weather effects. It's a shame they didn't get another shot.

spicelicka1669d ago

Graphically that's true DC is the best looking racing game ever, but the article isn't talking about graphics only. Game design and gameplay in FH2 was miles ahead and has consistently improved with each iteration.

sampsonon1669d ago

they are saying it still holds up. to me that's a graphical thing. but if they think the open world car games are is the thing that makes a racing game hold up then The Crew is the winner.

in 10 yrs you can show DC and people will still think it's one of the best looking games.

but i get your point.

xRacer74x1669d ago

Just think if DC did not have prerendered backgrounds and the narrowest roads of any game i had played in a long time and it felt like it was on rails. DC was subpar and it cost the studio their jobs.

sampsonon1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

first of all the studio was shut down because of the launch of the game and all the free dlc they had to give away because of it. not the game itself.
pre-rendered backgrounds? lol thanks i needed that laugh.

"Just think if DC did not have prerendered backgrounds and the narrowest roads of any game i had played in a long time and it felt like it was on rails."

that's called a racetrack dumb dumb :)

FH2 had some of the worst graphics in a racer so of course you could have an open world. too bad the crew did a better job than FH2 and still does when it comes to open world racing.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://youtu.be/5WS55RHXyz...

xRacer74x1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

@sampsonon Except Genius(Intended Irony) not all the tracks were race tracks. And No feeling like the game is on rails does not mean its a race track either. DC was a subpar racing game. I really enjoyed the invisible barriers when you drove on the burm too. Forza was such a better game but that does not need to be said its why the studio is still making games and the other was FIRED. I get it though its not like on the PS4 their is a great arcade first party racing game. So you do not know any better.

sampsonon1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

@xRacer74x they were race tracks, just not off road tracks.
sub par my ass. Like i said sony only disbanded the company because of the bad launch. they also have GT so they could afford to close the company.

FH2 looked like shit and still does compared to the superior graphocs of DC. even 3 looks shit compared to DC.
One game was using tracks and the other was an open world. one looked way better and the other one allowed you to "REWIND" HAHA! when you race = garbage.

Forza Horizon is a fun game, don't get me wrong. but it was lacking in so many places compared to DC.
https://youtu.be/aa6qZ2pny6...

spicelicka1669d ago

I don't think simply being open world makes a game hold up, there were plenty of things FH2 did so well. IMO it did many things better than the Crew, which is why it's rated so much higher as well. Better graphics than the crew, the multiplayer was amazing with FM drivatar tech, and the handling of car just feels better than any arcade racer given the variety. The soundtrack is still my favourite.

Imortus_san1669d ago

LMAO, all the people that add no internet sucked balls since the phisical edition did not had those effects.

Forza Horizon 2 metacritic = 86 user 83
https://www.metacritic.com/...

Drive Club metacritic = 71 user = 63
https://www.metacritic.com/...

There is no real comparation, Drive CLub floped and the company went down while Forza Horizon 2 triumphed.

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3-4-51669d ago

* I've still yet to beat the game and haven't bought FH3 or FH4 because I still have stuff to do in FH2....I just haven't played in a while. It's an awesome game and yes it still is just as good now as when it originally released.

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Jacob writes: "Following on from my list of insanely difficult achievements, it’s time to shine the spotlight on another type of hellish achievement. The dreaded grind. These are the awards that will take you hundreds of hours at the absolute minimum, and often involve repeating menial tasks over and over. It’s safe to say that these were definitely not made with the casual gamer in mind. Only the most committed will ever see these pop."

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BillyG0AT1758d ago

rewording countless other articles, yayyy

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Pay much more for playing a bit earlier – this new emerging trend is alarming

As different as they are, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Forza Horizon, FIFA 19, and the new Tomb Raider have something in common. You could play all of them earlier than others. But there was a catch – you had to pay extra. And this practice doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon.

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InKnight7s2012d ago

Meanwhile selling Switch at MSRP price is considered an amazing offer. PATHETIC.

CDbiggen2011d ago

What's that got to do with this article?

Segata2012d ago

Is this how they trick people into paying $80 Us Dollars for games next gen? Then I will get every game used.

princejb1342012d ago

if games cost $80 next gen i will problably quit console gaming

Sokol2012d ago

Games have been priced at 79.99$ in Canada for almost six years now.

It won't change anything.. Sadly.

princejb1342012d ago

@sokol sorry to hear that its been $60.00 in the US. If it goes up in the US it will probably go up in canada also

sawoosevens2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

With their current practices bringing up prices is not practical unless they remove MT and get back to making awesome games like the old days I'm still at a complete loss as to how our technologies has come so far and our games have become hot pieces of garbage of course some games are exceptions. Only games I feel okay with $ 80 towards are all made by Sony and that's me thanking them for providing me with the true gaming experience from when I was young when games we're actually fun.

sawoosevens2012d ago (Edited 2012d ago )

If they remove MT and actually make games fun again like they used to I'll gladly pay $ 80 for game hell I already do that for Sony's games.

Jinger2012d ago

As long as the early access is just an additional feature of the edition that comes with the season pass and all that then I'm fine with it. But I'm not going to pay extra JUST for early access.

AK912012d ago

Don’t buy it, speak with your wallets not your words.

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