Is The Xbox One X A Better Bet Than The PlayStation 4 Pro?

Some developers swear up and down that the Xbox One X has more power than the PlayStation 4 Pro. But does that make it a more obvious choice for gamers? WWG weighs the factors.

[Zero_Suit_Samus]

“Is The Xbox One X A Better Bet Than The PlayStation 4 Pro?”

PS4 Pro is $100 cheaper, has better exclusives, and more variety of games. So the answer is no.

[Kribwalker]

Better exclusives is an opinion. Everyone likes different exclusives better. Me, I'm not a fan of dark souls or jrpg styles of games and more into shooters, which exclusive wise in that genre, Xbox is better. Racing as well this gen, Xbox has been getter rated and better exclusives.
PlayStation has been the better platformers genre exclusives for my taste, ratchet and clank and crash bandicoot are solid in that respect to me and got me to buy my PlayStation
The switch has the best action adventure game so far, BOTW, but right now Sony has more quality ones and they win that genre on that in my opinion.
That is why I like to have them all. Then I can literally get all of the best exclusives, that are the best in my opinion

[S2Killinit]

Yeah not at this point. Its a fact when the gap gets this big.

[notachance]

yeah, I don't see why people can't have multiple consoles when it's totally fine for them to buy $60 games over and over and have 4K TV.. that sh*t's expensive man, don't say you can't buy a $250 console if you can afford that

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

TBH, Sony has the most diversity when it comes to game genres so it was top priority for me when choosing a console, next console purchase will be Switch so I can get the remainder of the best exclusives. I want Halo but it's not enough for me get an Xone just for that one game (maybe Gears as well).

[JaguarEvolved]

I like the xbox one a lot and will be buying a PlayStation 4 around gran turismo time and I can say with reason that the xbox one x will never be better than playstation 4 or PlayStation 4 pro.

I know some fanboys think having a more powerful console automatically makes it better which is like thinning playing bad games on a more powerful console makes the game a lot better. The Xbox one and one x lacks exclusive titles and the ps4 and ps4 pro have an abundance of exclusive titles that are highly rated.

If the argument is about which console is more powerful then the xbox one x is more powerful on paper but it hasn't displayed anything that looks better than the order 1886 or horizon zero dawn for ps4. PlayStation has genre defining games and the xbox one doesn't. Xbox had amazing games last generation

[Kribwalker]

@edmix
I never said having exclusives is an opinion. I said having lots of good exclusives is an opinion. If I don't like a genre, then in my opinion those exclusives don't matter to me when I make a purchase.
@s2kill
Again, if there's 20 souls type exclusives or jrpg type exclusives and I don't like those kinds of games then the gap isn't that big to me, which is why it is an opinion.

[steveo123456]

exclusives don't sell console though whatever you might think

let take horizon, 3 or 4 million copies sold, in a 60 million strong user base?

And this is one of your best 'exclusives'?

Horison isn't even in the top 10 as far as ps4 game sales go.

Its the multiplats from 1 -10 all the way through

So.... if multiplats are what 99% of consumers are buying, surely a big chunk of those consumers want to be playing the best version of it

I'm not trolling, just putting a logical opinion forward - I might be completely wrong

[CoinOrc]

@steveo
The reason multi-platform games are bestsellers is because casual gamers overwhelming buy games like Call of Duty and Madden. Casual gamers aren't going to shell out $500 just to play slightly better looking multi-platform games especially when the regular PS4 only costs half of that. If casual gamers always want to play the best looking version of multiplats regardless of the costs, then the PC versions of multiplats would always be the best selling.

[S2Killinit]

Xbonex is a better bet if you have been living under a rock this whole generation.

[synistatha1]

Name me 5 big xbox exlcusives not named forza halo and gears games that would make me want a xbox been waiting months for a answer and nobody seems to be able to do it

[bennissimo]

It's not just about exclusives.

Xbox Live is a better service (though Sony has made strides toward improving theirs), and the Xbox controller is just better for some games.

It'll be the same for me as it always has been: PS for its exclusives, X for its exclusives and all multiplats, and Switch maybe in the future when Metroid finally releases.

[S2Killinit]

Live is no longer the better service. PSN is the better online service currently. Have you not noticed MS is desperate for cross platform online? Its because they dont have enough players online to support all online capable games.

[Sitdown]

Ummm, you asked for 5 exclusives.... Why can't Halo, Forza, and Gears not be listed? Don't people purchase an Xbox because of those titles? Way to restrict the criteria to serve your needs.

S2Killinit,
Your logic doesn't make sense.....Live isn't better because less people use it? Huh? Adding features mean you aren't good? What?

[S2Killinit]

Umm yeah. Live isnt better when there arent enough players in its forums. Make sense?

[xXISHROOMZIXx]

You've got to be slow or a kid. Live is better.
I've had both systems, and I can tell you, psn is NOT better than live. Now psn has been getting better itself, but live still conquers it. Between stability, features, and updates to the service, it's a no brainer that live is the better service...

[CoinOrc]

Live is not better than PSN. Controller preference is entirely subjective. I actually prefer the DS4 with its symmetrical joysticks. If you have a 4k TV, don't have a gaming PC, don't already have an Xbox One, and want to pay $500 for a mid-gen upgrade with better looking multi-platform games and no exclusives, then by all means, buy an Xbox One X. If you want a console with award winning exclusives and have access to the same multi-platform games, then just buy a PS4 or PS4 pro.

[S2Killinit]

@xxshroomxx
Yeah neither. Just observant. Live isnt more stable, and it doesnt have as many people playing on it. So, thats a fact. Yeah?

[Kribwalker]

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[gangsta_red]

@s2

"Have you not noticed MS is desperate for cross platform online? "

Provinding games with more cross platform play has nothing to do with the actual service...in fact that just goes to show how Rock solid their service is to actually provide this across all consoles...something Sony won't do and I bet it has in part to do with their own weak infostructure.

"Its because they dont have enough players online to support all online capable games"

Is this why they keep bringing out more mp focused games...because they don't have enough players online to support them?

Dat logic!!!

[S2Killinit]

MS hasnt brought anything so please specify. Secondly, its telling that last gen Sony was pushing for it, and MS was refusing it. Did MS not have the "infostructure"?

Dat logic!!!

[gangsta_red]

@S2

"MS hasnt brought anything so please specify."

Over half of their own games past, present and future has an online component or deals specifically with online play. So exactly how can they not have a large player base when they continue to focus on online games? (We get concerns of no SP games daily)

And to point this out further where exactly are you getting your info that the player count is in trouble and this is why MS wants cross platform play? How exactly would that benefit MS? Players would still be playing on PS4 consoles, the content bought would still be bought from the PSN store meaning Sony would still get a cut from the purchases made. MS would still get player count numbers regardless since they own the IP and it's on all platforms and devices.....so yea...dat logic.

"Did MS not have the "infostructure"?

Maybe MS didn't, which is why they are doing it now...what's Sony's excuse? Did they go backwards with their "infrastructure"?

And Sony never pushed it, they said they would be up for it but made no real push for it like MS has done up to this point. So again, why the back track unless they were bluffing then and called out now?

All this and still your point doesn't make any sense on why you believe PSN is better than Live.

[S2Killinit]

such a rambling of a comment. I must have hit a nerve.

Doesnt even have to make sense anymore does it?

What are these MS games you speak of? PLEASE SPECIFY.

And to answer your question: because people are buying Playstations because they want to play multiplayer games with their friends, who have, guess what? Playstations.

MS "pushing" is basically a PR campaign to put pressure on Sony, that is all. Sony already has cross play with PC btw, but they wont share their player base with MS just because MS is spending money on a PR campaign. I guess Sony is more concerned with making games than PR campaigns.

[leeeroythe3rd]

Xbox live is still much better than psn. Download speeds and connectivity are much higher and consistent . Only way you say otherwise is based on not using live.

[Bruh]

@S2

Bruh gotta stop licking the Sony sack. XBL is objectively the better network, its won an award against PSN for faster network service and reliability. Also cross-play is a good thing for everyone, trying to spin it as a negative shows your fanboyism that much more

Grow up

[S2Killinit]

Ok bruh

[Tech5]

from a power and value perspective the Xbox1X offers much more than the classic Xbox1 model. the jump from 900p to 4k is a massive gap. in comparison to the ps4 pro, you can still be satisfied with the classic ps4. even though the ps4 pro model will also show visual upgrades, the classic ps4 model may show parallel qualities. the Xbox1X sounds like the ultimate upgrade.

[jlove4life]

I agree tek but the question is xboxx better than ps4pro not gap comparison from base model to mid gen upgrade however you look at it the question is opinionated personally i would use this check list where more friends play ps4, better operating system xbox, powerful better visuals xboxx, better services [shareplay remoteplay psplus games psnow]ps4, game sales ps store, best peripherals ps4, exclusives ps4, more games im interested in ps4, price ps4pro, online xbox, winner ps4 7 xbox 3 PlayStation has more than double things I like than xbox bonus point sales more chance to play and meet gamers ps4 wins again thats just my opinion

[dcbronco]

Jlove did you really just list PsNow as a plus. That's a double subtraction. BC on Xbox is a much better option going back the entire lifespan of the brand. For free.

Making your Xbox your home unit gives you access to all your games anywhere. And remember Xbox streams to PC and with a Snapdragon 835 and up your windows phone is a PC.

Xbox has incoming VR/AR units. Far more potential than simple VR. Exclusives are subjective. I don't play many indie or Japanese games so you don't get me there.

The thing is it works for you and that's good. If they ever launch Deep Down I might be in. Until then I don't see a reason to buy PS. Price is a matter of priorities. You could always work extra hours to get an X. It's worth it.

[dcbronco]

Jlove I also forgot the standard and Elite controller on Xbox are far better. The PS controller has never been a comfortable fit for me. And Sony has no answer for the Elite. So peripherals are definitely in Microsoft's favor.

[BLizardXD]

the Xb1x is the best of both upgrades. it offers the most out of the box.

[Rude-ro]

😂 at the fake accounts.
Too funny.
Keep up the hard work... Microsoft needs your help.

[philemond2010]

Define variety? And better? I am curious

[rainslacker]

PS4P is a sure thing if you want a plethora of games with sufficient power that may or may not get support from developers depending on title. X1X is a rather risky bet that may or may not get a change in the game release paradigm, and may or may not get support from developers depending on title.

So, I'd say that PS4P is a better bet since we know what to expect, and MS problem is their actual game line up. So unless one is into MS releases specifically, there is not much reason to get X1X unless they just absolutely need that last bit of extra pixel quality that I guess they can't get through PS4.

[ApocalypseShadow]

A better bet at what? More potential looks or more potential **games**? As a gamer, which one would you choose?

[Death]

I would choose the platform with the most games that I want to play. More games are only relevant if they are games you want. For some it is the PlayStation, for others it is the Xbox.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Which I can't deny is true.

Only thing is that one company is providing more options to choose from, has more developers backing them,thinks about a worldwide community of gamers and not just parts of the globe, thinks about the whole year to release games and not the final three of the year. And, does it with less money than the one that has way more funds to do so but doesn't.

I'd invest more in the company who invests more back and then some. Not with the one that has to be pushed to do so.

[bolimekurac]

oh cmon, during ps3 years it was bone dry for years and then they started with good games and the same happened with the ps4, the first 3 years where not that great with exclusives

[MrEnglish]

I'd choose both Pro and X.

Best of both worlds, PS4 for exclusives and X for racing and 3rd party.

Why miss out over mindless loyalty

[synistatha1]

that makes no sense why buy 2 consoles just to say u did thats a waste of money

[GeddyThePolack]

I already have a Pro and One S, but I plan on getting a One X exactly for this reason.

[Zero_Suit_Samus]

@MrEnglish

“I'd choose both Pro and X.”

“Best of both worlds, PS4 for exclusives and X for racing and 3rd party.”

“Why miss out over mindless loyalty”

Because not everyone can afford $1,000+ for both consoles including online services if you choose so.

And $500 for an Xbox One X is a big price to pay just to enjoy slightly better looking/performing 3rd party games.

[MrEnglish]

To the guys saying it's too much to own both then I hope I don't have to read comments from you bashing the other console you don't own, whichever it is.

According to most on here they own a top of the line gaming PC.

And Synistatha how can that make no sense? You get to play ALL games across both systems. If anything your reply made no sense.

MadPandaSkills when did you go hands on with the X to make your comparison?

Quick edit: MadPandaSkills makes it out to be price that means he won't be buying an X, but a quick look through his comments history shows that isn't the case and is just a hater of the Xbox. Your comments are now to be taken with no seriousness from here on out

[XiNatsuDragnel]

At this i said the beaten horse one. So to change it up get both and STFU already

[ElementX]

I think the X will be supported longer than the Pro because it has more capability

[Profchaos]

Not necessarily it's mandated there is to be no exclusive games for both the x or the pro all titles must be playable without sacrifice on the base model xbox one and ps4

[WilliamSheridan]

No but if it ever becomes lead platform, games will perform better on it. You'll definitely see exclusives, you'll see

[DivineAssault]

Im glad you pointed that out. Microsoft was also very misleading with that conference at E3 touting "Uncompromised 4K" lying their asses off to consumers.. Good console and all but i have my doubts it will use the horsepower effectively for every scenario.. I hope im wrong so i can get one, but we all know how them money hungry bastards operate.

[Shadowsteal]

That makes no sense. Every game that releases on the X has to run on the OG hardware as well.

[ElementX]

No, next gen games will probably be supported on X. It'll be the bargain price console. The One will probably be supported 2 more years.

[Aenea]

Ah, so when in 2019 the PS5 releases which will obviously be way better than the One X, Xbox fans will have to wait 2 to 3 years before they get their next gen console??

[WilliamSheridan]

But they won't have to wait 3 years for a market base. It'll be fully compatible with both generations of games and will be seamless. PS5 will have to launch and start all over.

[Razzer]

Why would PS5 be starting over? If it is still x86 based then it will be compatible with PS4, more than likely.

[Aenea]

@william @razzer

This is not about PS5 needing to start over, this is about MS not introducing a new console until 2/3 years after Sony introduces the PS5. That's what ElementX is suggesting, that the One X can be supported longer...

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

That might not be the case though, Microsoft dropped support for the 360 too early in my opinion. That and games have to run on the vanilla versions of each console. Personally, I predict the status quo will stay as is.

[Rude-ro]

Psssst... that would then be the first console to longer support.
Also a hint, when their answer this gen was pr lies that led to a new console to compete with nothing new to play.... whatdo you think their answer will be for sonys new machine? It's not going to games we all can tell you that for sure.

[rainslacker]

If this notion of no generations stays in effect, that may be true, as the OGX1 will likely be phased out, and the X1X will become the lowest common denominator in the equation when the X2 releases.

If not, then I expect that when the X2 comes out, that the current gen will be dropped much quicker by MS, compared to Sony which continues to offer up support after releasing a new gen, and the X1X may not have the install base to warrant developer support on a high level anymore than we'd see for the stock X1.

[Themba76]

hell no

[LexHazard79]

If youre going completely on just hardware specs and features then Xbox One X is better console. PS4 Pro has the better single player exclusives aside from that, theres nothing its gonna do better than the X. Yeah its $100 cheapers and probably less by the time X launches. But with X youre getting a powerful machine running games with better graphic textures and resolution. There are over 40+ native 4K games and more coming, doubt PS4 Pro got that many. It also plays 4K blu rays which Ive been buying on Amazon at great prices compared to the $30 digital. And will also play 3 generations of Xbox, customizable UI Home page, cool Avatars, etc..

So many great things I could say...but Its just a waste of time. Cause all Im gonna get is.."PS4 Pro had Boost mode "(ok), "no one buys 4K blus", "Xbox has no exclusives"

But all Ive been hearing and reading is praise from developers big and small. Then on Twitter they bringing up old 2013 stuff to damage control and change the subject. Lol..
and you have a self entitled douche of a dev calling other devs liars..haha. Love gaming industry..never get bored!😂😎

[shinoff2183]

PS4 Pro has the better single player exclusives

Well you just made my point thanks. Games are why most of us buy a gaming system. I will stick to where the games are. Simple as that.

[mark_parch]

if it's games your after xbox offers far more as it's able to play og xbox games and 360 games plus it has really good value subscription services like ea access and game pass. ps4 has some great games like uncharted and zero dawn but then so does xbox with games like horizon, gears and halo. It really is just down to personal preference. The thing that I find strange is a lot of ps4 fans just can't accept that some people might actually prefer xbox

[Aenea]

40+ native 4k games? Where's the Digital Foundry analysis for those games? Until those are done I wouldn't just say that!

[Ricegum]

Nativegoku

You're going to be very disappointed buddy.

[PhoenixUp]

Is power a better bet than the most diverse game library?

[Death]

For some, absolutely. If the games I want to play are best on Xbox X, then why would I care about "diverse" games that don't interest me? Like the vast majority of PlayStation gamers, I don't care about Persona, Nioh, or Nier. Why would I choose them over a console that takes the games I want and the games I already own to a higher level? Some people will choose PlayStation, probably many more, that is completely ok too.

[OB1Biker]

Yea I think it's about a silly debate here. It's the same thing as for the base models for nearly four years now. It's all about being informed and knowing what you expect from gaming. Now if for some gamers money is not a problem and they want and have the time to play everything (assuming they are only interested in consoles) then they will get both Pro and X.
However I personally know just like four years ago, that there's a lot games in development for PS4 that have great potential. I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon unless my PS4 dies though. Buying a game console is an investment for many years of gaming and the best bet is to wait for next gen :D

[Kribwalker]

I agree death

[FPSFox]

I think you're missing the big picture and only looking at this from the eyes of today and not several years down the road. Sony takes more chances and once in a while produce something fantastic whereas Xbox has been recycling the same 3 or so franchises over and over to the point of exhaustion. A system that's full of surprises and original upcoming games is more appealing to most than a powerful box with no personality and hardly anything in the works.

[PhoenixUp]

The lower amount of variety is why PlayStation consoles tend to sell better than Xbox consoles

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I can't justify buying a Xone when the majority of the games it has are on PS4/PC already, for me it's just not worth buying only for Halo or Gears.

I can't justify buying a PRO or a OneX either when you already own vanilla versions of either console. I know some people who don't even own 4k TVs and yet they bought the PRO/XoneX... Why?

[Death]

Does Playstation sell more globally because of the variety of games or is the variety of games a result of Playstation selling more globally?

Xbox simply doesn't sell outside of North America and the U.K. It doesn't make sense for Microsoft to make games for regions they don't sell hardware. It's more beneficial to cater to the audience that is there. Microsoft has tried in the past to make games for other regions, but sales didn't follow. I get why they aren't doing it anymore and being part of their target audience I am more than ok with it. Instead of targeting everyone/people that aren't interested, they are targeting the customers they have. With Xbox One X, Microsoft is creating a premium product for their fans. With the added features they have been rolling out since launch it is a great combination for their fan base. The trade off is less sales than the competition, which is pretty typical of a premium product. Less diverse games are a result of the smaller global presence they have.

[rainslacker]

@Death

I think it's more the result of Sony actively developing relationships with developers and publishers for the past 20 years, as well as investing heavily in their own 1st party studios, along with having a user base that actively brought a larger variety of games.

Last gen, Sony had the same kind of variety going pretty strong by this time in the gen, and it only got stronger as the gen continued, and they were roughly equal in terms of market share, and MS actually sold more software overall for a good part of the gen....which is what is really important over console install base. yet the sales didn't bring that variety in the same way it came to Sony's console.

You mention that MS is building a premium console "for it's fans". If that's the case, then why do we keep having people come around asking which is a better choice? If the system is for it's fans, why would PS4P even be a consideration if they weren't interested in the PS4P to begin with? I don't think the X1X is an attempt by MS to retain it's fan base, they don't really need that as far as I can tell.

[PhoenixUp]

@ Death

Wtf kind of question is that?

PlayStation wouldn't be receiving as many games if it didn't sell as well globally.

[FallenAngel1984]

PlayStation is always the best option cuz it'll always get the most support over the longest period of time.

[_LarZen_]

Lets be completely honest now. The PS4Pro has few games that look much better then the base model for the average console gamer. Especially for those who have not invested in a 4K HDR display yet. And until otherwise proven that goes for the X1X also.

But then again these consoles aren't for the average console gamer are they? If we for one second can just look past the fanboys and look at normal consumers. I hardly think the consumer and gamer both Sony and Microsoft are aiming for with the PS4Pro and X1X care about price or that the X1X has less exclusives. They want the best experience be it game selection and how these games are presented on a big beautiful 4K HDR TV.

If anything these consoles are a nice stepping stone for those who get a taste for it and decide to make the jump to a high powered gaming PC monstrosity.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

We're still a few years away from 4k gaming and even then, it most likely be only the high end PCs that get to experience "True 4k" gaming.

[Gwynbleidd]

For me the One X is the better bet, since I am in the Xbox environment already! ;)
It also will be a much better choice for many other gamers aswell.
There also will be gamers that prefer the PS4 Pro.
It's crazy. but we really have many good platforms out there to choose from !
But what's even crazier is the fact that there exists this nonsense console-war, fanboy BS... But whatever, I keep enjoying my games on my prefered platform without bashing everything else!

[ILostMyMind]

Are there any more games in it than in PS Pro?

[ichdich]

I think the X will be supported longer than the Pro because it has more capability

[Rude-ro]

No. It runs Xbox one games at a better resolution.
So, once games advance, the x becomes what Xbox one is for 4k tvs.
All that "power" is nothing but trickery with a lot of upcoming games already confirmed to not be native 4k.
If it does not have the power to do those games now, they will definitely not be doing next gen games.
Next, it is a Microsoft product... they are not known for supporting their consoles after releasing a new one.
I give the Xbox one 1 year until exclusives are on the x. No one is buying a Microsoft console because of microsofts "support" history... this will not change with Xbox one games with graphics booosts.

[Elda]

If you like what the XBOX is giving then go for it.Personally for me it's just a slightly powerful system that plays multi-plats whatever exclusives they showed off at E3 I have no interest in.It's a pass for me.

[optimus]

well i have no intention of buying or building a gaming pc anytime soon so if i want the best experience possible for the games i play whether it's exclusive or 3rd party then it's the X1X for me....having backwards compatibility, an ultraHD blu-ray drive, a 4k capture card, ea access, and gamepass, is just a bonus.

[Ceaser9857361]

“Is The Xbox One X A Better Bet Than The PlayStation 4 Pro?”

Power wise , X is a beast... Price wise Pro is ahead and if it decreases 50$ more that will make the X difficult... Exclusive wise again X falls behind... Now today's gamers are wise i am guessing they gonna spend where they get the most out of it... I find it stupid and a waste to buy something and let it to collect dust...

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I agree on the price point, console gamers seem more sensitive to price, hence why the PS3 was a hard sell at the beginning of last gen and Xone at the beginning of this gen before it dropped the camera.

[_-EDMIX-_]

On paper, by default yes.

In reality? No so much.

A game system is only as great as its games. Right now, XONE is below PC and PS4. Its hard to find reasons to really buy a XONE, let alone the X version of it outside of course of XB fans. When the games are matching settings with PS4 Pro, its just pointless. Who cares if not many are even using the features?

If you don't own a PC, sure...I guess it makes sense, but if you own gaming PC, anything XB is questionable.

I'd rather use the extra money to buy a Switch or PS4 to be honest.

[LandoCalrissiano]

I don't know if it's better, lets take a consensus of everyone here who has them and see what they think. Oh, it's not out yet? And that this topic of discussion is old news? Seriously, it's like every news source can't come up with anything new. Makes sense and is understandable that new topics right now are hard to come by regarding the x, but at some point I'd rather see no news than rehash (I'm talking just x, not games, that has plenty of news). Ex, before launch there was lots of interesting reads: speculation, then digital foundry review, e3, more speculation, and now it's comparison, how will it sell and how will it sell in comparison. All I'm saying is either new info should come to light or stop rewriting the same article. I even find myself reading more articles for games I've never heard of for a platform I don't have. This purgatory period is hell.

[Gunstar75]

It's subjective is many respects.

I believe Live is better than Sony's offering and I love the Halo and Forza franchises.

[B1uBurneR]

Lets see 80+ significantly enhanced games.
Gamepass $10 a month, access to 122 games a month or $35 a year EA access to 40+ games all year. Or $60 Xbox live which includes 48 games free a year. More 4K READY than the competition. More game centric features.

You do the math. The 4Pro you save $100 for a mediocre 4K system, less power, less features, less free games.

[Aenea]

More game centric features? Like what, exactly? Less features on the Pro? Less free games? Explain yourself!

And ehmm, if I look at what you wrote, hmm, $500 machine, + $120, +$35, + $60 a year, wow.....

[corroios]

Dont try logic, They can see that. They think that the average gamer or parent wlll spend that kind of Money. 500 machine, + $120, +$35, + $60 and got a 4k TV.

[Cryptcuzz]

Damn, that burn.
Doubt he understands the logic behind it and probably really thinks his math added up to a better deal.

[B1uBurneR]

Simple lets look at some options.
opt. 1
$500 + 45 days free trial of gamepass includes access 122+ games = Total cost $500 +122 games for 45 days.
PS4Pro $400 virtually no games offered unless its bundles = Total $400 no games included
Opt 2.
$500 + $ 60 live includes 48 free games a year. 4 games a month includes BC = Total $560
$400 Ps4Pro + $60 PSN now includes 24 free games a year on this console = Total $460
Opt 3. Premium
$500 +$60 Live + $120 gamepass + $35 EA Acess = $715 includes 210 games
PS4 pro No option like this available.

using opt3. why even upgrade to a PC

[Aenea]

Yeah, people splurging on the most expensive console ever are going to be cheapskates and get GamePass and EA Access 'cos they don't want to buy the games they want to play! Makes total sense!
Besides that it's hardly necessary to buy the most expensive console to play last gen games (or last year's games with EA Access or other old games with GamePass)!

And still you haven't answered my question about "game centric features" or "less features on the Pro"!

[B1uBurneR]

Look I'mma just change my wording to a more living room centric than any other console. It was too easy to mention Mixer, Community Calendar app, not to be confused with the BS Event calendar. Looking for group (Clan) I can go on, but so far every gen MS kills it with the features.

"To be cheapskates and get GamePass and EA Access 'cos they don't want to buy the games they want to play! Makes total sense!"
As opposed to what? I thought we were budgeting.. aight peep game.

A PS4 Pro $400 + PSNow $60 + 1/2 games $120 = $580
vs
X1X $500 + Live $60 = $560
(includes 126 + gamepass games free trail for 45 days ( + 4 GWG) . Oh by the way the Specs pays for itself so eat that at the cash register.

Games like Halo 5 will be X enhanced so you still get that Native 4K experience and not that Nada-4K experience. Older games with be in Beast Mode off rip, not that Loose mode that's all over the place and in some games it is literally going nowhere fast.

If you are new to the Xbox ecosystem coming from PS4 this is a great way to start your 4K journey. If you are already invested you good .. $500 and get the party started right!!!

[sinjonezp]

When the X get some games then we will revisit that question.

[bamillington]

I've both xb1 and ps4 and yes ps4 has more exclusives yet I prefer xb1

[corroios]

Nope, its just to expensive for the casual gamers and their target isnt the casual gamers. The PRO is aimed at the casual gamer with a 399 price tag.

Microsoft didnt learn nothing this gen. And went with another console with a higher price tag then the competition.

Again, the power diference means ZERO for the casual gamer. What they see is the price. I believe Sony wont even cut the price, like everybody is talking, because they just dont need.

[2cents]

"even though the price and lack of fundamental features have us on the fence a little bit. "

Lack of fundamental features? Pray do tell...

[Xx_Pistol_xX]

Maybe they should stick to comicbooks.

[gamer7804]

better how? in price? no, better in number of exclusives no, in better games its subjective of course , in power yes, in media capabilities yes.

Just depends on what you are looking for which would suit you "better"

[OffRoadKing]

Ready...........fight! You gotta love this web site, agitate people with articles like this, get them to respond in the comment section and then banned them for commenting. Good luck guys.

[slappy508]

Nope. Next question please

[Nodoze]

Um no. Most 'exclusives' are on PC, the PS4 has a library of great titles, AND it is cheaper.

Hardware is not the most important aspect of a great console. It helps, BUT the Software is the most important.

[Cryptcuzz]

How I see it, it's like Windows Phone vs Android Phones.

I'll pick Android where I know it'll have more apps/games available now and in the future.

Same with the PS4 Pro.

What has made PlayStation so successful and what resonates with majority of gamers across multiple generations now is the diversity in Sony's library.

You can have your typical third party games, FPS, sports, etc.
Then you can also have puzzle games, family games, platformers, side scrollers, etc.
Not only that, but you'll also get all the Japanese developer support.
All the while getting the top-notch first party games Sony produces.

Say what you want about their games, but no one can deny that it is better to have a platform holder that also try just as hard in developing games from existing franchises and creating new ones, than others that do not. My 2 cents. Now carry on fighting the good fight.

[Ben12]

YES

[Ben12]

Oh did I mention YES

[Destiny1080]

we all know what happened to the last console they launched

it was a complete and utter disaster

[DivineAssault]

Absolutely NOT! Any gamer with sense will get PS4 & Switch over this.. $500 just for the box is insane for a mid gen refresh.. It is a good price for the power BUT AAA software is lacking (especially exclusives).. The average consumer wont buy this either.. Only hardcore collectors or xbox fans are buying this until a massive reduction in price comes around.. Im a huge game enthusiast, have a 4K TV, can afford it, like the aesthetics/concept, but wont bother right now.. Imagine a casual..

[andrewsquall]

Its more powerful certainly. But sharing its games with the ddr3 Xbone does not help it.
PS4 Pro is easily better overall when it shares its games with the already little standard PS4 beast that can easily run a game that looks like Horizon Zero Dawn at native full 1080p.
So far all we know about XboneX is it can play games like Recore, State of Decay 2, Halo 5, Cuphead, or Crackdown 3 at native 4K and that is a feat that will hardly shift the tides of gaming forever.

[Bronxs15]

In terms of hardware specs, yes.

In terms of games, no. Not at the moment. But unlike hardware specs, a games library can change over time. So it remains to be seen. But PS4 pro has the advantage in library now I believe.

[KillBill]

Point is the vast majority of gamers will only have a very small percentage of the games offered on any machine. So the question is which machine can offer you the amount of games you might possibly own and at the best playable experience?

[King_Lothric]

When the same question was asked about Xbox One and PS4, the Xbox community said...

"Power doesn't matter. We play games and not resolutions"

So, the same answer stands here with the PS4 Pro and Xbox 1X.

[jokerisalive]

Depends. When Sony drops the Pro to $350 it will be hard to argue the value it represents along with the great exclusives Sony has to go with it.

[Jamesx82x]

Its really about what games you prefer, the ecosystem your more invested in or prefer, and other little things that are all about opinions and taste which differ from person to person. This console war stuff is out of hand and gaming media just keep perpetuating it for the clicks. Why does one have to be better than the other? Why cant both be a fine choice depending on what your looking for?

Im going to have both the Pro and the X because I can afford both and I like both consoles. I also like pretty graphics but hate gaming on PC's.

[steveo123456]

The jump in power from xbone to x1x is huge when compared to ps4 to pro. This is why x1x will outsell the pro in a big way.

Also the ribbing that xbone users have taken from ps4 users over the last few years will spurn fanboys to invest so that they can have the last laugh now the tables are turned.

Expect the rhetoric in here to be completely different by early next year

For me all console advances are good, it makes the devs do more to justify their existence :)

[timotim]

Yes! Without question X is the better of the two. The purpose of both these mid-gens is to provide the gamer with a more capable box...X does this better than what you find on Pro. X is more powerful. All multiplats will look and/or perform better on X. X has the better app ecosystem and capabilities. X shares its library to an extent with Windows 10 on PC to allow you to take games with you away from your console at home. X has UHD Blu-ray. X has Xbox Live which is considered better by most to be the best on consoles.

Pro by comparison doesn't really provide much more when compared to standard PS4. X will outclass Pro in just about every way.

[horndog]

Xbox x is the better buy. I play lots of third party . I want the console that will play it best . I also prefer the Xbox exclusives line up of games. Yes they are on PC but I don't need a gaming pc. When I feel like playing gay ass JRPG's that are exclusive to PS4 I might consider .

[leeeroythe3rd]

Of course it is better. There is no comparison on hardware. Microsoft does need to work on more in house software but the tgis isnt about software. Stupid article and only jealous fanboys could argue otherwise. It doesnt take away from what sony offer or mean microsoft will sell 30 million. X1x will offer best multiplat and hopefully ms picks up to providing more in house

[leeeroythe3rd]

Reasons to not buy x1x stated:

1. Its toi expwnsive at 500. Seriously? Go II play 5 year old tech. Weak arguement

2. Its mid cycle... who the hell wants a software reset on platforms? I much prefer to carry old software forward and have developers work up 2 veraions like pc

3. 4k tvs are expensive... seriously? A tcl 55 4k hdr p605 is 600 bucks. Thats 1/3rd of my first 50 inch 1080p. It sounds like most of you winners need to get real jobs and move out of mommys house

[sk8ofmnd]

The thing is, when you say something like "4k uncompromised" most of the gaming community thought... Holy ish ms is going all out and to achieve that this new xb1x console must be between 600-700$$ easilly... Then... We learned the xb1x is using the same old jaguar cpu overclocked with minor tweeks here and there... And we learn the xb1x is still not going to be native 4k for most games. The xb1x will still use dynamic scaling, and for the most part be 30 fps. Its like our fake 4k is better than your fake 4k...
To me, uncompromised 4k means... Uncompromised and ms flat out lied to its consumer base. To the fans ms still has... Thry will be very pleased... But to the rest of us... We know within 1 year we could be seeing a 350-399 xb1x, with no exclusives, and even less sales year over year. That is what is to expected from ms. I hope somehow they can prove us naysayers wrong but judging by the trends from the end of the 360's life its just been more of the same... Wheres ms's new ips that are must have excusives that we havent been seeing since the early 360 days. Halo 1 and 2 were my faves and geow 1 and 2 were amazing... After that those games have really lost their appeal and now you have a new forza game launching every year... Those 3 games have become very stale.

[Shineon]

I hope so because so far my Alienware Alpha R1 gives me better visuals and it's running on a custom Nvidia 860m with an I5 processor and 12gg ddr3.I have rise of the tomb raider on Ps4 pro and although it does look good in 4k I can still tell that the textures are hella low compared to the older tomb raider game I've played on my 2013 PC hybrid whatever in 1080p.I'm a little disappointed in ps4 pro maybe aiming for 4k is to high but it's still early in the game who knows what could be pushed once the devs spend more time with ps4 pro.Hopefully the Xbox 1 x dosent disappoint and ps4 pro steps it up and show us what these consoles can produce

[RomanPSX]

Hell yeah. Day one for me.

[Gwynbleidd]

“Is The Xbox One X A Better Bet Than The PlayStation 4 Pro?”

For me the obvious choice: Xbox One X!!
But that is my choice. Other people might choose otherwise. But hey, that's the great thing about it, having some awesome choices out there!