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Gran Turismo Sport vs GT6 vs GT4 Show Impressive Visual Differences

Check out this comparison.

IRetrouk2474d ago

I think gt sport looks great, played the beta on the og ps4 and it looked and ran fine, just want to get into the game proper now, cant wait.

XanderZane2473d ago

Well, I would hope GT Sport would look better then GT4 & GT6 which were both on the PS3. If it didn't I would be concerned.

IRetrouk2473d ago

I didnt compare it to any other game in the series, thats what the article is about, i made a comment based on my own experiance with the beta, i get why the article was done but its pointless in the long run, obviously something running on a newer more powerfull machine will look better than previous versions, i just want the game, no game series has had as many of my hours as the gt series.

Killa782474d ago

GT Sport looks fine, Forza looks cartoonish by comparison.

Both are going for very different styles.

I've started to play Forza Apex on PC, it's fun but I don't get the hype.

trainsgofast2474d ago (Edited 2474d ago )

"Forza looks cartoonish by comparison." That's what i think about GT. one is a Native 4k/60 and one is not, one has 700 cars and one dose not, one has a lot more and one is still left in 2001, I look back at DC and a lot of you said it was the best looking game, that it's only 30/1080p do to it having dynamic weather/time day, that was a lie and you still hate Forza and now if need to get the games that only come out on the Sony console i will just wait till they come to PC , and then maybe they will look as good as the games coming out on XB1X.

FyBy2474d ago

How these facts have something to do with style of the game? How 4K/60 or 700 cars make you love the game mechanics and generally enjoy races ? If you like Forza, that's great but I don't understand how can be your comment relevant with og statement.

jwillj2k42474d ago

4k doesnt change a games engine, it just changes its visual fidelity. Meaning I can have a 4k cartoon racing game, and a 1080p realistic looking racing game.

DialgaMarine2474d ago

If I played Mario 64 in 4K/ 60 FPS, it would still be Mario 64. Resolution does nothing for actual graphical fidelity, besides help pick up the details a little better. If a game looks crap, then 4K would just mean its looks like sharp crap.

I'm not saying Forza looks like crap, but the 4K argument is incredibly stupid, especially considering 1) you've yet to play it in 4K, and 2) Forza is a franchise notorious for downgrading. That PC footage from E3 doesn't have me convinced at all until I actually see it in person on an in-home 4K display.

CoryHG2474d ago

One uses a dated bloom technology (forza) while gt aims for photorealism

trainsgofast2474d ago (Edited 2474d ago )

Most of you here played DC and said it was better! How did that workout for you? It's not, GT is crap and has been for years. GT after all these years still can't match Forza. stop It just stop it . You have to say it looks cartoonish do to it's all you have left. You can't say it's 900p or 1080cp or 1800cp. you can't say it's only got 12 cars on track. you can't say no dynamic weather/time day. All you have is it looks bad to me!
Sony is selling you a game that is last gen at best.
After this game dies (that's why Sony didn't show it at E3 on stage) like DC did then you will say " well GT is better do to it coming out every 4 years. If Sony knows it sucks why don't you?

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LexHazard792474d ago

I didnt realize it was a GT Sports vs Forza comparison.

CoryHG2474d ago

It always turns into this. Welcome to the internet.

XanderZane2473d ago

Yeah.. this article was comparing GT Sport to GT6 /GT4. Not sure how Forza 7 got involved. Forza 7 doesn't look cartoonish at all.
https://cdn2.techadvisor.co...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/c1hN...
https://news.xbox.com/wp-co...

timotim2474d ago

Coming from someone who has seen both FM7 (on X) and GTS (on Pro) in HDR on a LG 4K OLED, it's the exact opposite for me. GTS looks like the one with higher color saturation which makes it look more cartoony.

freshslicepizza2474d ago

The jaggies are quite apparnet as well on GT Sport. Needless to say I don't want to see any screenshots, only gameplay. It's a well known fact screenshots are supersampled as well as replay mode.

I think it's kind of embarassing how long Polyphony takes and still has less content.

IRetrouk2474d ago

Moldy i still aint seen you bring this point up for forza or any of the other racing games you comment on, all racing games add effects to photo mode and replay mode, forza included, supersampled though are you sure🤔 🤔🤔 because i dont think thats true.

KillBill2474d ago

@moldybread - jaggies aren't half as bad as the pop in.

Bruh2474d ago

FH3 and FM6 def have a high contrast look that makes it look cartoonish, but FM7 is using a upgraded lighting engine and it looks phenomenal. Def don't see where anyone could say GT looks better, as FM7 is not only technologically more advanced, but also boosts higher fidelity ( 4K vs 1800p c)

Ding2474d ago

Bruh6h ago
FH3 and FM6 def have a high contrast look that makes it look cartoonish, but FM7 is using a upgraded lighting engine and it looks phenomenal. Def don't see where anyone could say GT looks better, as FM7 is not only technologically more advanced, but also boosts higher fidelity ( 4K vs 1800p c)
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Lies.. Unlike the Forza POS, GT Sports

http://www.gran-turismo.com...

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Wide Colour
・Colour space increased by 64% from sRGB.
・10nm scale spectroscopic measurement. (Measurement of the spectral base.)
・Full wide colour space workflow using BT.2020 at all stages of production, from data capture, materials creation, rendering to output.
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from the ground up has used the Wide Colourspace which is 12-16bit per sample, it also uses the INDUSTRY standard BT 2020, which requires HDMI 2 and above [Xbone is only 1.4 like the PS 3] and BT 2020 only has 2x NATIVE resolutions..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

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Resolution[edit]
Rec. 2020 defines two resolutions of 3840 × 2160 ("4K") and 7680 × 4320 ("8K").[1] These resolutions have an aspect ratio of 16:9 and use square pixels.[1]

Frame rate[edit]
Rec. 2020 specifies the following frame rates: 120p, 119.88p, 100p, 60p, 59.94p, 50p, 30p, 29.97p, 25p, 24p, 23.976p.[1] Only progressive scan frame rates are allowed.[1]

Digital representation[edit]
Rec. 2020 defines a bit depth of either 10-bits per sample or 12-bits per sample
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Which are 4K or 8K UHD in other words Bubba a 2x2 checkerboard matrix to keep the 16:9 aspect ratio of HDTV

1920x1080
x2x2 = 3840x2160
x2x2 = 7680x4320

Bruh2474d ago

@ Ding
Sigh...

1. " Lies" where did I lie? To change from a baked to a dynamic lighting system you need to overhaul your entire lighting engine, which Turn 10 did as FM7 featured a fully dynamic lighting system.

2. Wide Color Gamut support in correlation to HDR mastered titles is also in FM7, reaching BT 2020 isn't anything monumental in fact most HDR 10 titles going forward will aim for it, since UHD certified TVs have that has a standard. Though GT does support far higher peak luminosity, which is really nice to see.

3. Now lets actually dig into the tech of both games, everything you talked about was mostly HDR mastering items and not really related to the game engine technology. Not to mention the only area you've shown with an edge for GT is higher peak luminosity. FM7 features a fully dynamic lighting model, which already makes it more advanced than GTS's baked lighting system, both are physically based too and neither are dynamic GI solutions, so there basically on far from a rendering level but FM7 is a step ahead with it being fully dynamic. Environments...FM7 utilized photogrammetry to recreate photorealistic textures for rocks, trees and other natural model pieces around tracks, GTS doesn't come close to this. FM7 also incorporates fully dynamic weather and track system, GT has weather I believe but its pre-set and non-changeable during driving. So with all that being said who in living hell is GTS more advanced? lol

Would love to hear your arm chair engineering mind, I'm a software engineer by day, but never hurts to learn from the crowd on N4G :)

Ding2473d ago

Bruh4h ago
@ Ding
Sigh...

1. " Lies" where did I lie? To change from a baked to a dynamic lighting system you need to overhaul your entire lighting engine, which Turn 10 did as FM7 featured a fully dynamic lighting system.
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BS kid they are using the SAME engine they have used this entire generation, what they showed running on the PC was upgraded Apex graphics.

This is the FIRST Gran Turismo of this generation Bubba.. What part of
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・Full wide colour space workflow using BT.2020 at all stages of production, from data capture, materials creation, rendering to output.
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using BT 2020 at all stages of production and

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Resolution[edit]
Rec. 2020 defines two resolutions of 3840 × 2160 ("4K") and 7680 × 4320 ("8K").[1] These resolutions have an aspect ratio of 16:9 and use square pixels.[1]
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is it that's giving you trouble junior?? Where you LIED

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as FM7 is not only technologically more advanced, but also boosts higher fidelity ( 4K vs 1800p c)
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you said GT Sports was only 1800p which is a PATENT LIE as BT2020 only has 2 NATIVE resolution.

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2. Wide Color Gamut support in correlation to HDR mastered titles is also in FM7, reaching BT 2020 isn't anything monumental in fact most HDR 10 titles going forward will aim for it, since UHD certified TVs have that has a standard. Though GT does support far higher peak luminosity, which is really nice to see.
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Wide colour is 8K pallete HDR 10 is only 10bit whereas BT 2020 supports 10 AND 12 bit as I pointed out..

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Digital representation[edit]
Rec. 2020 defines a bit depth of either 10-bits per sample or 12-bits per sample
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Wide colour uses the 12-16bit pallette and HDR gets relegated to contrast/ brightness/."nits" IE...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

4K for definition, HDR for Lighting, Wide colour for depth.

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3. Now lets actually dig into the tech of both games, everything you talked about was mostly HDR mastering items and not really related to the game engine technology.
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Liar. BT 2020 refers to resolution 4K/8K framerates from 24 -120FPS and 10 and 12 bit samples, if you had had the intelligence to click on the link [mummy not in kid??] you would see that it is an INDUSTRY STANDARD for all things even Hybrid Log Gamma, which is the new BROADCASTING standard for 4K/Widecolour/HDR

http://www.4kshooters.net/2...

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Sony FS5 to Get BT.2020 and Hybrid Log-Gamma via HDR Update in July
Ogy Stoilov March 27, 2017
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Getting it yet kid?? Its the NATIVE standard for Cameras/ TVs everything.

IRetrouk2473d ago

Time of day and weather is not dynamic, but the actual lighting is, confirmed in one of the first interviews kaz did, quick to shout at people for maybe not being as techy as you yet half your info is wrong too😂

Bruh2473d ago

@Ding
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

1800p checkerboard, but keep trying

You're literally arguing the same thing, those are all points related to HDR mastering, has nothing to do with the actual graphics functionality of the game engine. Anyways you're delusional AF, trying to argue with you is like yelling at a wall.

@Ret
Guess I should've been more clear, the light sources are dynamic since its physically based, but the actual lighting method itself is not, since GT pre-loads lighting settings based on what time of day you set before the race. This isn't anything innovative dynamic lighting has been a marketing con since COD: Ghosts lol, guess I should more say real time dynamic lighting to be more accurate, but its sad GT doesn't incorporate as both PC2 and FM7 have them

IRetrouk2473d ago

You mean the time of day is not dynamic, as in no shifting of light sources and hues etc, the light sources themselfs are dynamic though....so the game has dynamic lighting just not dynamic shifts, and i do agree that the dynamic time and weather being cut is a dissapointment to me as i like the features, but the fact that you can choose both options before hand really does take the sting out, to me its not a big deal, im more excited about what form the concepts are going to take, the challange of trying to earn my real life race licence, online cups and tournaments with real prizes, the fia partnership alone is amazing, i dont care if the game is 4k or 1080p, or even if its got the most eye candy, its all about gts driving model, its good with a controller waaaay better with a wheel.

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Aenea2474d ago

Cartoonish? What a nonsense!

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Fishy Fingers2474d ago

Comparing GTS against the emulated, upscaled version is interesting I suppose. If nothing else it shows there is more to making a pretty game than higher resolution.

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Gran Turismo Sport Has Been Delisted From PS Store

Sony Interactive Entertainment has delisted Gran Turismo Sport from the PlayStation Store as of January 1, 2024.

ApocalypseShadow113d ago

The great digital future. Where games vanish. The benefits of digital just aren't enough over physical to every buy in 100 percent. Especially when my Atari games still work and can be played to this day over 40 years later. Some of these digital games don't even last a whole generation.

purple101113d ago

But in this case everyone who has it still has it

And they unlocked single player to be allowed to progress offline

ApocalypseShadow112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

But in the case of others, they can no longer can buy it or any delisted game. Just like online only games that get their servers turned off and there's no update for offline with bots.

If you like the idea of any digital game being delisted where it's no longer available at all, then you and others are fools. What's all that presentation bullshit guys like you spew?

There should be no reason any digital game should be removed. Ever.

Bathyj112d ago

Apocalypse no one likes it. But let's be clear here.

If you own the game, you still own it. All that's happening here is they are stopped selling it.

Why? I have no clue. But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm.

If you want to complain about servers for an online game being shut down, go ahead. But that's a separate topic and can happen to any online game even with a physical disc.

fan_of_gaming111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

@Bathyj "But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm."

It isn't the exact same thing at all. When a game gets a physical release, it is always available even if big-box retailers aren't selling it new anymore. For example, I can go on eBay today and buy a new & sealed copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS3, because it once had a physical release. However I cannot buy a copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS4 today, because it had a digital-only release and was delisted.

If Gran Turismo Sport had a digital-only release, it would be unavailable for anyone to buy ever again. But because it had a physical release, in 5 years someone that wants to play it can still acquire it.

Cacabunga111d ago

People should stand against digitalization

purple101111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

I have only brought one or two digital games in my life
Everything I buy is physical

Often from eBay in perfect condition.
Sometimes from a online shop in uk such as

365games
Shopto.net
Simplygames
Base.com

All, who will ship disk to your door on day of release, cheaper than buying from digital store.

Then I either keep, lend, or sell. My choice

No where, did I say I support digital. And yet someone even called me a fool,
Haha
Totally misunderstood, some would say, he’s the fool

With GtSport It ISNT being taken away from anyone who already owns it. So this has all got out of hand with people not even reading the article

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DigitallyAfflicted112d ago

Maybe this will make people realise the future of digital-only games

purple101112d ago

This one won’t though
Because it’s not de-listed and taken away from you
It’s just not on sale anymore and the multiplayer will be shut down soon I reckon. It released 2017 so it’s had a fair run of 5 years online multiplayer lobbies

DigitallyAfflicted112d ago

@Purple, but it could be taken away, like p.t. Demo was, as well is taken away from anyone who didn't purchase GTsport in a digital form and yes I know we can still buy disc version and it's not a big of a deal.

My point is that you can't own something if it's not physical, with digital-only content you pay for the right to download and use and possibly in the future there will be some laws regulating you rights to it…

blackblades112d ago

I mean y'all been whining about that since the ps3 era. To this day im still able to play all the games I payed for.

ApocalypseShadow112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

It won't. Fools like purple think that just because they can still download it now, that it's safe. I've bought multiple games on console and mobile that are no longer downloadable or function. Because the game was either delisted or since it was connected to the Internet, no longer works because the servers were shut down turning those games into coasters. With no update to be able to play some games offline with bots. They're gone.

He won't get it or care until it happens to him and some of his games are delisted and removed or don't work any more even if he "bought it "

EvertonFC112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

If you don't keep your old consoles, your physical disk will be useless too. Do you think console hardware or disk drives will be around in 20 years. Good luck with that.
I'm not saying it's right btw, just pointing out to the physical crowd that digital and physical are very alike when it comes to actually being able to play the games in the future like 20 years time.
When I'm in my care home, I don't expect to be able to play my old digital or physical collection as consoles won't be around or disk drives for playstation.
Unless your keeping the old consoles safe in the attic over time, nobody will be playing there old physical game collections.

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EvertonFC112d ago

If you bought a physical launch day copy of GTS you still won't be able to download any of the updates in 20 years when servers are off.
Plus there will be no such thing as a disk drive or a hardware box for that matter in 20 years unless you keep your old consoles.
My point is sadly your physical or digital copy won't work.

Barlos112d ago (Edited 112d ago )

I see this as the digital equivalent of physical games going out of print. They don't continue to make copies forever, at some point they will stop making it, usually when sales dry up and I guess for GT sport that happened some time ago. Also, in the digital world, storage space is not infinite. If a game is no longer selling, why would they waste space on keeping it available?

For those that already own the digital version, they will still have access to it.

frostypants111d ago

I generally agree, but GT Sport is primarily an online game. They probably have some reluctance to deal with the blowback of selling an online-oriented game that may not have active servers much longer. Admittedly that's a whole other issue in itself.

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Father__Merrin112d ago

Online based titles like this I wouldn't expect to last forever as the game has been updated iterations as in gt7

Same with if FIFA 20 was delisted as example there's update to game. If something like Uncharted collection was delisted then that's something that's bad

Agent75111d ago

You pay stupid money for digital games and DLC, then it goes missing. Who's laughing?

shinoff2183111d ago

Physical games for yet another win.

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Gran Turismo Sport End of Online Services

On January 31, 2024, at 06:00 UTC, the online services of the PlayStation®4-exclusive software “Gran Turismo Sport” will come to an end.

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shadowT211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

Time to get a PS5! New PS5 owners in the USA can currently claim a game for free, but GT7 is not part of this promotion.

purple101211d ago

GT sport was good. Gt7 is better.

For someone who was crap at racers (and still is) and only played kart racers with powerups, I can say GT sport and gt7 balance SIM/ arcade racing to perfection. Easy enough for anyone to play and not crash but with enough depth to master for years.

Totally different to need for speed / Forza handling where the cars feel 'floaty'.

The dualsense is just supreme with gt7 toi

badz149211d ago

So...will they enable offline saves now or what?

VariantAEC206d ago

From Gran-Turismo.com (the article liked above): "All existing cars and personalized Car Settings kept in Garage will be accessible. Gameplay progression required as normal to unlock additional cars and items."

So... yes, as far as I can tell you'll still be able to use all your collected and purchased cars and race on all the tracks in the game and unlock ones you might not already have access to. That's what I'm getting from the post, but time will tell if this actually comes to pass February 1st, 2024.

Agent75210d ago

After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.

OmegaSoldati210d ago

Thats why i dont like online only games. Cant believe this, this game sold so well. You need to be a fanboy to keep supporting Sony after this. Bought this thinking that it would take 10 years for this. I'm lucky that there are enough classics and single players for a life time.

VariantAEC206d ago

Looks like PD has the potential to set the bar for closing out always online games.
Back when GT Sport launched you couldn't do anything when you couldn't access the servers, but it looks like GT Sport will retain access to SP race modes, custom races, VR, your full garage, and all tracks. This is much more than what was available at launch if offline.

We still will lose custom liveries and race suits, which is nonsense, but hey if you share them online now they will be in the cloud and available to you in GT7 if you're interested. Basically, we lose MP, but players keep everything we earned and whatever was paid for.

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Gran Turismo 4 Cheat Codes Discovered 19 Years Later

Almost 20 years after its release, a set of cheat codes for the PS2 game Gran Turismo 4 has been discovered.

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CobraKai397d ago

That’s cool! Knowing me I woulda still done the tests, but awesome they had cheats

Deathdeliverer397d ago

The article SHOULD say, “BLAST FROM THE PAST! Old school gamers in awe as GT4 cheat codes are discovered after 2 decades. These “cheats” offered free treats for gamers added time savers, additional ways to play, and more. Some magazines had sections or complete issues dedicated to them. Sound strange? Gamers today know them by another name, DLC or Downloadable content…

PhillyDillyDee397d ago

Sounds like a different article. You should write it. Can you do blogs on this site?

vTuro24396d ago

GT4 was my first ps2 game. I loved it, but the disc stopped working before I could complete it and I never got it replaced feelsbadman.