Today’s keynote event unveiled the new and improved Apple TV, an updated system touting gaming as a primary selling point. With their larger focus on gaming, Apple has announced the TV’s support for third-party controllers.
I cant stand the closed ecosystem of Apple products. If they get into gaming, thats a hard pass.
It's an open ecosystem, any one can develop and submit apps or games to the App Store. A PS4, Xbox or Steam would be just as restrictive. Ask any game developer or publisher what their "compliance" department does and they'll tell you.
The fact you absolutely have to be tethered to iTunes to use your apple products means an epic fail to me. Android phones let you drag and drop music,videos, and ringtones right into your phone. With an Apple product you absolutely must use iTunes or similar program. iTunes is a slow, bloated program that just eats up HDD space. This and many more reasons make it a very closed system for users. Android is the freedom I crave.
@SteamPowered You don't need to tether to or use iTunes for Apple products. You're misinformed.
can you not play apple games on an iphone or an ipad or on apple tv ? where do you play your nintendo games besides nintendo platforms? seems even more restrictive to me.
When was the last time you installed a game you downloaded from some website on your Xbox One, PS4 or Wii U? They all are closed systems..
This isnt apples to apples. Those are consoles. This is an Iphone which you need itunes on your pc to access its features. That would be like using Games for Windows Live to put music on your Xbox. Doesnt make sense to have that extra step. If you have music on an HDD and plug it into an Xbox, it will be able to access it straight away. Iphones you absolutely positively need itunes or equivalent to open it up on Pc. And then it doubles your music library inside of itunes which makes no sense when it should be able to follow the shortcut path like any program ever. /end rant
You have never needed to use iTunes for apple products in about 5 years. You only need to have an apple account, just like PS4 needs a Sony account, Xbox needs a MS account etc. No other software is needed to run their products.
Knight Rider Controller? "What button would you like to press Michael?"
Eh, if I was going to get a TV box with gaming in mind, I would just get the Nvidia Shield Android TV box.
It's like Apple heard all these people who said, "All Apple has to do is put an App store on the AppleTV and it will be a console killer" and did just that. No. That isn't going to work, and neither will this. For a gaming console, it's underpowered with a horrible controller. For a media streaming device, it's $50 too expensive. So it's trying to be both but fails to be either. It's trying to hard to be something nobody really wants. Sports scores overlaid on top of what you're watching? Most people just pick up their phones and look it up there. Why? Because it's easier. What does this thing do that makes things easier than before?
It doesn't have to make anything easier to be successful. The people that buy Apple products have already made up their mind. Apple doesn't have to do anything innovative at this point to sell iPads and iPhones.
The "games" will be just as terrible on my TV as they are on my iPhone...
So yeah for Apple... but honestly not too bothered. That said... is it time we finally get a standard for controller face buttons? Can we just get companies to use the same buttons and colors for the buttons? Stop doing your unique thing and just have a standard? It would make it 1000 times easier on gamers and developers to have a set standard for face buttons. A,B,X,Y seem standard now on PC and a few consoles... lets make it a standard and lets make the color scheme for each button the same too. I know its a pipe-dream but jesus it would be so nice if all the systems had similar layouts for the face buttons.
Why? If you have played PlayStation, Xbox, or Nintendo consoles before you have already memorized the buttons. Nintendo buttons are the only ones that are iffy for me. I like PlayStation's shape buttons the best though. Also who actually does anything different than the big three game companies? Everyone outside of Nintendo and PlayStation just copy Microsoft's controller layout already.
I only want it from the perspective of owning multiple machines. It throws me off just a bit every time I jump from one console to the next. The image of the Apple controller made me think of it. It uses A,B.X,Y in all the right spots to a 360/xbox controller but the colors are not the same for each so as screen prompts come up it can throw me off. Devs would also benefit cause they could just focus on making ONE user interface instead of two or three variations for button differences.
Nintendo and PlayStation are the only ones who don't use Microsoft buttons but I'm glad PlayStation doesn't because to me shapes and R1,R2,R3 are better. But Nintendo on the other hand I think their buttons needs to change, they use the same 4 letters as Microsoft but in different positions which is what makes it confusing sometimes.
Nintendo used those buttons years before xbox did look at the snes. The Nintendo R, L start, select, x, y, b, and a has and is the standard. The xbox controller inovations are limited to l3, r3, home and if you can remember the light button from og xbox. Enjoy this history lession. So no one is using microsoft buttons they are all ripping eachother. Duel analogue was brought to you by sony btw.
It's obviously not meant to compete with the PS4 and Xbox One based on specs and price.
Whats the point of making this thing play games. We have consoles for that.
No interest in this but the controller looks decent. Like a 360 controller only with the analogue sticks in the correct place.
Are you guys really so thick headed that you don't see or understand who Apple is targeting with the AppleTV. Let me spell it out for you. Casual gamers that don't give a shit about PS4 or XBO.
They all think every product is for the 15 year old kid. It's the internet too, they think their opinion must be heard.
Those causal gamers will already have a phone capable of playing the same games; why go buy another device?
Because their phone is kinda tiny compared to a TV?
so according to your logic vita gamers will not buy a ps4? apple tv allows them to play games on a big screen. it also supports controllers. you don't make much sense.
But that worked for Nintendo and the Wii U didn't it? In fact, Apple was wildly successful with their Apple Watch too, right? As for Apple TV. Where is it in the television market to begin with? All I see these days is Netflix and Presto.
So what does Apple TV's own controllers look like?
I assume they don't have one.
Hm, y'know...I don't entirely hate this idea like I thought I would. I guess it just depends on the games that come out before I decide if I'll get one.
I'll get one at launch, but I'm not using that controller. The 90's called, they want their analog stick layout back. Left analog stick is the primary input device, therefore it should always be parallel with the buttons on the right, which are always the primary input device on the right side of the controller. This creates balance.
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