Xbox One + HDTV Deal Leads to Return Fraud For Gamers Who Wanted a PS4 Instead

GameRevolution: "Arguably the biggest gaming deal this Summer was Best Buy's Xbox One and Samsung 40" HDTV for $499. Given the Xbox One's value of $350, and the HDTV's MSRP of $430, it was a Black Friday magnitude deal that thousands would impulsively take advantage of.

The deal was so good, in-fact, that even customers with no interest in an Xbox One have taken advantage of the deal.

Since the deal went live a week ago it has sold out across the country. Some of the customers had no interest in keeping both items, though."

[Foehammer]

Speaks volumes that this deal sold out in minutes yet the article says that just "several customers" tried this.

Others may have tried Amazon, as it was a really good deal, but it sounds like the vast majority got a good deal they/re happy with.

[3-4-5]

Can't stand all this purposeful misreporting.

[ThunderPulse]

Calm down Kirito your life isn't on the line anymore.

[UltimateMaster]

You buy the bundle, you sell the TV 450$, you sell the Xbox One 350$.
Then you buy a PS4 with the cash you just made.

[Locknuts]

Gaming 'journalism'

[XBLSkull]

Kind of along the same lines, I just had a friend on facebook post an hour ago Kmart is selling PS4's for $200, and some walmarts/best buys are price matching. Just what he said I don't know any other details.

[indyman7777]

FOEHAMMER no where did it say: JUST before "several customers". Several means a lot but your changing it to JUST several which suggest not that many. FAIL!

[Adrian_v01]

@indyman

several
ˈsɛv(ə)r(ə)l/Submit
determiner & pronoun

more than two but not many.

[indyman7777]

Adrian_v01 Thanks, but I'm sure that everyone reading my post can tell the several means more than two. And most people can comprehend that he is suggesting not that many by using the word 'JUST'. At least I hope there is no one that does not know comprehend that.

[Adrian_v01]

Just pointing out that his post wasn't a FAIL in that sense. You said several means a lot when in fact it doesn't, he said several means just a few which in fact it does.

[showtimefolks]

sadly stuff like this happen all the time. there are those among us who will always look to take it one step further. they are the ones who buy great deals to sell later at profits

to them it's the bottom line that matters.

I am not calling them wrong but it just doesn't feel right for someone who may actually want it to keep it for himself

[reallyNow]

This is why housing sucks. Bunch of a-hole "flippers" and "investors" selling and buying houses to each other, artificially driving up home prices to an unsustainable price, and then boom, bubble pops and we do it again.

[extermin8or]

Actually the fact it was bought by people quickly and on impulse makes it more significant that several tried this because it wasn't exactly like they planned it out or thought it through. It shows a snapshot of how quite a few people must be after a ps4 if they upgrade to current gen...

[kickerz]

Or u just keep the Xbox one cause there's so many amazing games on the horizon

[Andyajh]

Negative it is also on PC, and therefore not an exclusive.

[thisgamer503]

Don't you know they only take the "exclusive" tag away if its an xbox game that comes to pc. If a ps4 game comes to PC then they kick and scream "But...but...but it's CONSOLE exclusive to ps4 yayz!" lol

[TheXgamerLive]

This story is a HUGE ps4 fanboy lie, but on a daily basis on N4G I expect no less.

Common swnce with deals like this their listed as NOT 4 RESALE and cannot be returned unless its the entire order, again this story is the fraud aka a lie.

Sony fanboys stop the BS.

[Bzone24]

The story is that it was returned to a target. Not the Best Buy it was bought at, hence the fraud.

[JasonKCK]

Desperate people tend to do desperate things.

[TheXgamerLive]

SOooooo 1 person returning something to a different store makes if a news worthy story to be represented as though its NUMEROUS people? I again restate my case. Fanboys.

[lxeasy]

Good Title gamerevolution.com, that will surly give your web site some clicks. As inaccurate as this so called news is.

[XanderZane]

Damn, I missed out on a great deal. I would have kept both. The Samsung 40" HDTV was a SMART TV as well. Probably worth $500+ all by itself. I already own a 46" Samsung Smart HDTV and an XBox One. If anything I would have just sold the Samsung HDTV to a friend for cheap. I wonder if they will do something like this again on Black Friday?

As for the fraud crap. If they returned the system to any store without a receipt, they would get store credit. No store would credit their credit card or give them cash back. So the store wouldn't lose anything. The Target receipt shows they got an XB1 and gave the guy credit of $349.99. The guy used the credit to buy a PS4 and paid the different of $53. Target didn't lose any money. They probably sold the XB1 for $349.99 to someone else. It is fraud though, but the customer service people at the stores should know this. They don't care though because they aren't losing any money.

[AndrewLB]

The product is opened and checked by the return counter because people in the past have returned re-shrink wrapped boxes with weights added and product removed. This means it has to be returned through the distribution hub which results in lost money because they're paying out store credit for a product they never sold originally.

Stores need to be smart and record serial numbers at the point-of-sale so they can be cross-referenced when people attempt to make a return.

what's strange about this story is I've returned things in the past without a receipt and if there had been any sale on an item or if someone had price-matched the item, the most credit they'd give would be the lowest price they sold it for within the time period where returns are allowed.

My local Fry's electronics does record serial numbers when products are purchased in order to prevent fraudulent returns.

[Ipunchbabiesforfun]

and target will turn around and sell it for $350, they're not losing a dime.

[XanderZane]

@AndrewLB
Well Fry's Electronic will open the package even if it's new and never opened. Wal-Mart and Target usually doesn't open their packages. If these stores are losing money, then it's their own fault for not following their own policies. They should never take a return item without a receipt. Most times the receipt is only good for 21-30 days anyway. So how would they know how old the purchase was? I still don't see this as a loss for the store except for having to return the product back to the distributor or vendor. When the product is returned to the vendor, they will get full credit for the product, which cancels out the credit. The credit they give out to the customer will be spent in their store, so they will get that money back as well. The only lose is whatever funds they pay to ship the product back which they never really owned.

[harrisk954]

The guy paid a $50.00 difference when he traded it. There was no fraud here. Best Buy allows returns and he paid money to make up some difference in price in Best Buy's system:

From the NeoGaf user's post:

"traded the Xbox One in for the Target PS4 deal this week. Only paid the 50 buck difference. Good deal all around for those wanting to keep the Xbox One or get a PS4 with the TV."

This opinion article is nonsense click bait.

[thisgamer503]

Or the media is stirring up a frenzy like they like to do. ALl this "several" talk yet we have ONE story to go by lol

[SilentNegotiator]

I'm sure plenty of people got the deal just to flip the TV or the Xbone for other things. It's like getting a brand new TV or Xbone for a hundred or so dollars.

And "just several" is quite the contradiction.

[Adrian_v01]

Meh, wrong reply button.

[suckingeggs]

Ouch

But I bet more people kept Xbox's than traded them especially with halo around the corner

[RedDevils]

Not how anyone would an x1 because of Halo anymore

[thisgamer503]

What the hell are you trying to type little kid?

[ZaWarudo]

Damn, why didn't i think of that?

lol joking, joking.

[Chug]

Such a killer deal, glad I jumped on it. Flipped the tv for $350 so I essentially got an X1 for $150.

[Mega24]

You... you are going places.

[neoandrew]

Exactly, great offer, don't see a fraud here.

[nowitzki2004]

Here is the fraud..

"During the past couple days several customers have returned the Xbox One to another retailer before sharing their experience on internet forums. They would state to customer service that they lost the receipt, resulting in them walking away with a brand name 40" HDTV for a staggering $150, or $280 less than its MSRP."

"One user on NeoGAF proudly shared his experience of not only returning the Xbox One at Target, but trading it in for the latest PS4 bundle which includes The Last of Us and Batman: Arkham Knight."

[neoandrew]

I don't see it, if someone would really lost the receipt, would you call it a fraud?

They bought it, the hardware is theirs, they can do with that they want.

Customer service don't need to accept the return if they do not have the receipt, no one can force them to do so, they agreed, so where is the problem.

You honestly didn't think that people would not use this great offer to make money or buy cheaper? Someone that put this bundle in motion surely knows that also.

They don't even need to return it, they can sell it to anyone, it is the same.

[donthate]

@neo:

"They bought it, the hardware is theirs, they can do with that they want."

Yes, they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone or any entity. This constitutes hurting the store.....

"Customer service don't need to accept the return if they do not have the receipt, no one can force them to do so, they agreed, so where is the problem."

The problem is the person lied to get the store to do it.

If you walk into a bank and lied that the bank card is yours, it is no problem right, because the bank let you withdraw the money?

"I don't see it, if someone would really lost the receipt, would you call it a fraud?"

No, because you were being truthfull!

That is what that is intended for, and is goodwill from the store. Fraudulent actions like discussed is why stores stop doing them.

I'm sad to say that people will reason out of anything to justify the wrong they are doing. It's like common sense doesn't apply if I can twist it around to fit my agenda.

[iSuperSaiyanGod]

They Could of just craigslisted or ebayed it . There's no fraud just bent rules . They would of got around the same price for selling it & if they returned it for another thing in the store I'm guessing they would of used the money at that store anyways for the same product they exchange it for . Boo hoo & multi million dollar corporation got caught looking dumb . Not like they don't take advantage of customers every day w there insurance policy's & other non sense they never uphold w loop holes

[TheCommentator]

This is the reason we can't have nice things.

[lizard81288]

I work in retail and a no receipt return means store credit only. The stores didn't lose any money at all. If anything, you'd think that they would be smart enough to put a not for individual sale tag on either the tv or Xbox one.

[NarfleGarthok]

Wow, you are completely ignorant. The fraud happened when they fraudulently returned the Xbox to another store, lying about purchasing the product from them.

[XisThatKid]

Apparently this is actually HOW we have nice things

[thisgamer503]

Wow people are downright stupid on this site. So if you owned a store and somebody brought in a product from a DIFFERENT store and FOOLED you into giving him money for the product from a different store that YOU DIDN"T sell them in the first place. You wouldn't feel ripped off? REally? Or are you all just happy about the xbox to ps4 trade and turning a real stupid blind eye to the actual fraud? Oy fanboys

[RedDevils]

Same here I probably get rid of the tv and get the games, since I already have one and a PS4, with X1 and games would be full of awesomeness lol

[neoandrew]

It is an offer, not a fraud, they taken the offer, the console and tv is theirs and they can do with it what they want, end of story.

[cartoonx1]

nope its fraud, they lied about receipt. since u cant return without receipt they lied tht they lost it. its fraud.

[neoandrew]

It is just piece of paper, it is their hardware now, they can sell it to who they want.

No one is obligated to accept the return if they don't have the receipt, it's not their problem, if and employee agrees to accept the refund without the receipt than it was his decision.

[nowitzki2004]

@neo

Yes they can sell it or give it away if they want.. but lying is lying and stop defending it.

[donthate]

@neoandrew:

If you ever get caught, try telling that to the police or the judge!

The store agreed upon false pretenses by a non-customer. Would you imagine the opposite. The store could say, the customer agreed to it and thus, I'm not at fault for presenting false marketing!

[XBLSkull]

They can sell it to who they want, the just can't lie to Target saying they bought it there. What about this do you not understand? It is fraud as plain as day.

Now, had they not wanted the Xbox, and took it back to Best Buy, with the receipt, and said they didn't want it, and got the money they paid for it in return, well buddy, that is 100% perfect in my books. No fraud there.

[nitus10]

Fraud - In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain.

There is more but basically fraud was committed. What is even more amazing is that the store fell for it. Normally to return goods you need a receipt and if you state that you lost it then it is up to the individual store if they give you a refund, but they should have taken down the person's particulars.

If those people sold their unwanted product on say eBay then there should not be an issue.

[RedDevils]

Why would any company/store accept a return product without a receipt for proof of purchase, that mean that x customer could rob or stolen the good and make quick buck with their "oh I lost my receipt" whoopydoo

[Mega24]

Neoan, the problem is not them selling it, the problem is them returning it to other retailers, and exchanging it for money back or another console/bundle.

But in all honesty, the retailers are at fault for taking a product without proof of purchase.

[neoandrew]

"But in all honesty, the retailers are at fault for taking a product without proof of purchase. "
^ This

Customer service don't need to accept the return if they do not have the receipt, no one can force them to do so, they agreed, so there is no problem on their side i think.

[BeefCurtains]

There is truth in that statement, but my first job was customer service at a retailer. Have you ever told someone no for returning without a receipt? They will cut you and burn down the store!!! LOL.

It's best to just move on, this practice was dishonest, but retailers make a killing off the general consumer all day long.

[Baka-akaB]

Really ? That's ... generous ... i guess it's a bit about cultural differences in business across various countries , but i've never seen local stores accept without receipts .

I've even seen instance where it's a known customer they'd remember , but just to follow policies and look like good and obedient employée they'd refuse and call their supervisor to deal with this instead

[Ra3v3r]

@BeefCurtains I work in retail and I tell people it's not coming back without a receipt all the time. If the product has my company's brand on it I'll swap it for something else in store, otherwise jog on.

If you paid with a card I'll look up your purchase but again, no receipt - no return. Maybe it's just different in the UK. I also don't live by the rule that the customer is always right, purely cos we always pull shit like this.

I'll be honest, if a UK retailer was doing this kinda deal I'd be torn between giving my skint mate the xbox (already got one and he needs some new gen action) and punting it online to buy a PS4. I really wanna play Bloodborne and Rocket League. Missed TLOU as well.

I'd never consider returning it to another retailer but then again we only really have the joys of Curry's PC World....

[MrBeatdown]

@neoandrew

Wow. By that logic, the store can lie to you to sell you a product, just because you aren't "forced" to buy it.

[r2oB]

@ neoandrew

You can't be that dense. Of course it's fraud. By definition fraud is a deliberate attempt at deception. You think any retailer would have accepted the return if they had admitted to buying the console at another retailer? Or if they had said it was a sale or trade in rather than a return (they may have accepted it but for a lesser value than MSRP)? These people deliberately deceived the retailers into thinking the original purchase was done there. Just because the retailer accepted the return in good faith doesn't nullify the act of fraud on the consumers part.

Your skewed moral compass only effects your subjective opinion on whether the act was right or wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that the act was fraudulent.

[jb227]

"Skewed moral compass" may be taking it a bit far. Lying to a faceless corporation that over works & underpays desperate employees while their executives see millions in salary & bonuses every year hardly constitutes a criminal mind.

It may be technically considered "fraud" but it only existed because of policies that were put into place by the store. It's a white lie to a corporation that will profit regardless of it in the long term. I'd prefer to side with flesh & blood human beings and gamers just trying to get the most out of their hard earned dollars than some big retail chain making money hand over fist.

[Gh05t]

@jb227

You would steal from a company and expect that to not come out of the lowest possible worker? You talk about getting back but how did you help the people you claim they underpay?

You only help yourself, you may talk about caring about the others but if you did you wouldnt ateal a dime because in the end it all comes out of someones check.

I am also assuming since you are so against profit that you dont make a penny more than is necessary to survive... you must not play games since if you did that would mean you spent "extra" money ie profit to play.

You progressive backwards thinking parasites cant even make an arguement without contradicting your own beliefs.

[VINNIEPAZ]

''Customer service don't need to accept the return if they do not have the receipt, no one can force them to do so, they agreed, so there is no problem on their side i think.''

But the fact remains. You still LIED. Are you that slow?

[Kiwi66]

What part of this don't you understand they brought the bundle from bestbuy but then went to a different store and said they brought the xbox one from them and that they wanted to return it for cash but they had lost the reciept that is where the fraud part is stop defending this sort of thing

[_-EDMIX-_]

??? I mean...all I can say is welcome to the real world. That is 100% fraud. That is like saying if I bought a car, then took the vin and plates off and tried to pass it off as a different model, make etc to a dealer to return that it would be ok because I "bought it" lolz.

I..I don't think you get what fraud is.

[iTechHeads]

Yeah the XB1 is just not that desirable. I mean there's a reason it was practically given away n this TV combo.

[nowitzki2004]

Oh man, just think of the black Friday deals for the X1... The deals will be so good I will probably get one.

[PistolsAtDawn]

I'll be getting my second one...Halo 5 bundle baby!!!

[sammarshall102]

I'm dumbfounded whenever I hear statements like this

I guess selling close to 200,000 consoles a month means nobody wants a Xbox One... I'm baffled

Anyways it is fraud and they should be punished

[PistolsAtDawn]

Having all three consoles the X1 is the only one I wouldn't want to go without if it came down to it...(assuming I could only keep one for some reason). The idea that people think PS4 is a superior machine all around and that X1 isn't worth having baffles me. They all have their ups and downs, but when all is said in done, it's easy for me to say that the X1 is the best rounded machine...it's why it does all my heavy lifting and the other two are just for exclusives.

@Sac First of all, please stop representing Sac, you're not doing it any favors, and Sac already has nothing going for it....except heat. Second, I can tell you that Most people that own both like myself PREFER the X1...so THAT means something, mix that with X1 has a higher games attach ratio, and that it has more paid online users...it also shows you that it has a lower percentage of casuals that "just have one" so using sales numbers in this case actually COMPLETELY backfires as to proving that it's a better console...despite selling nearly twice as much, as of last December it was played half as much by over a billion hours according to Sony and MS themselves when they release the anniversary stats.

You must be a VERY bad lawyer.

Also...majority doesn't mean right...Obama and Hitler were both elected by majority.

[sactownlawyer916]

You can prefer xbox all you want however the fact is the majority prefer PlayStation. There is nothing you can say to dispute that.

[nbalive89]

@PistolsAtDawn Just kids being fanboys because they can't afford both so they want to feel better about themselves. I have xbox one,ps4,wii u because i'm gamer who loves gaming fanboys just make gamers look bad.

[King_Slayer]

@PistolsAtDawn

Did you really just equate Obama to Hitler?!?

You sound like a VERY intelligent person. /s

The idea that you think the Xbone is the superior machine all around just baffles me. Did you ever think that most people that buy a PS4 buy it to play games? Could that be why it's selling like crazy... Hmmm

[Ra3v3r]

@King_Slayer

Pretty comical to say most folk buy a PS4 to play games. Surely ALL people buy a PS4 to play games considering that's really all it does. Same goes for an Xbox One or even a Wii U - who buys a games console to only watch TV and stream content?

Maybe I'm just being pedantic but it's a ridiculous arguement. When the attach rate for software is lower it's clear the XBox has a good variety of games that appeal to the audience whereas a lot of folk have likely bought their PS4 to only play CoD, *insert EA sports game here and GTA despite the great indie titles available.

[Ionlybuynamebrand]

How many people have you interviewed with bith systems? Are did you just make that up like you 99% of the things you post on here. I have both and I strongly prefer my ps4. I actually never even play my x1 my girlfriend's plays it. Please keep posting showing how ignorant you are it's quite amusing.

[King_Slayer]

@Ra3v3r

"Who buys a games console to only watch TV and stream content?"

That's a good question. Maybe you should have told MS that before their initial reveal of the Xbone. How many smart devices does someone really need hooked up to one entertainment center? Smart TV, smart bluray, PS3, 360, etc. Sony got it right, they know why people buy game consoles. MS learned the hard way.

[Dewitt]

These comments get more ridiculous every day. Not that desirable, pfft.

[PistolsAtDawn]

In NO WAY is this quality "journalism" Defense force much?

Can we please get some numbers about how many "several" gamers did this...cause it seems like the article is really only talking about one guy on NeoGaf....pathetic. I have no idea how accurate it is, but I do remember reading on reddit that a "best buy employee" said that more than 100,000 of these deals sold....again, not sure how accurate that is, but at least they gave a number...here several = 1

@sac ...apparently it does....

[sactownlawyer916]

Defense of what. PlayStation is already destroying xbox it really doesn't need journalists help.

[JonnyBigBoss]

There were users on Slickdeals who shared their experience with using this method.

[headblackman]

why is this considered news that had to be posted on n4g is my question??? what's the real agenda that you're trying to persuade the people to see in a very small nothing incident???

[ElementX]

This is fraud plain and simple. I can't believe some people defend this behavior. Companies should have serial numbers scanned on expensive items so when returns are made, the numbers can be compared with a database to see if the items were purchased at that retailer.

[0to100]

wow this site sure likes to hate on xbone, and this article is just a misreport, possibly just to promote ps4 once again... on this site.

i have owned both consoles but ps4 is a VERY boring system with no good games & a poor online service. that's the truth, no need to feel insecure guys. congrats on it's sales.

I'm holding off getting ps4 again till their only decent game comes out, uncharted 4, then the ps4 will be a dust collector like the ps3 was, that's if uncharted multiplayer is anything like uc2's.

I'm more excited about win10, gears of war, crackdowns cloud tech, halo 5 & backwards compatibility.

[nitus10]

No it is not hate on the XBone (your word, I normally use XB1), most people here know that fraud was committed by lying to the store about the loss of a receipt although I suppose the stupid award should go to the store.

Personally I don't have a PS4 for a variety of reasons and cost is not one of them, however I do have a PS3 (backwards compatible) and a huge backlog of games.

I don't begrudge your excitement with Win10 etc however I have no interest in any of them since I run Fedora 22 (Linux) on my PC's and am more interested in Action/Adventure and RPG games. As for the so called cloud I knew and used that concept when it was known as remote IT services over 30 years ago and not allot has changed.

[SaveFerris]

Customer lied to store = Sounds like fraud to me.
Store accepts product despite no receipt = Store is at fault for accepting this.

Does this still count as a sale for next months NPD figures?

[FoxyGotGame]

It's a fraud ...No it's Not ...No Receipt...Who Cares .....Deceit!!....Burn in Hell!!! .....End Times Apocalypse ...Extinction Level Event!!!!

Why do so many people care what anyone else does with their own property? Is it your store, or company X1 was returned to? ...Or is it that some of you can't handle the fact that your preferred console was unwanted? I swear the outrage is because it's Xbox. None of you care about the retailer...none of yoooooo lol

If it was PS4 I wouldn't give a Sh#t. I'd see it as that persons loss. Really, it's beyond sad to see so many insecure corporate loving, plastic box worshiping consumers breaking down like this /

[OldDude]

Wow that was intense. I need a beer after reading it. Wait, I live in Washington state, I need something else!

[Gh05t]

Yeah how dare people have good moral charactar. It cant be that people dont like liars it must all be just fanboy rage.

[FoxyGotGame]

Good Moral Character? ...Yeah Okay.

I get on with genuine X1, PS4, PC, Wii U enthusiasts, but I cannot stand fanboys. Those sheeple who defend a corporation like life depended on it, and wouldn't know honesty if it slapped them in the face.

This outrage is because it's Xbox One, nothing to do with 'Good Moral Character'. Pure and Simple. You believe that and you must be what I just described Boy-o.

Now why don't you go sell that line to somebody else /

[Gh05t]

Coming from someone who has a brand tattooed on his username like a tramp stamp, you are the person that you talk about. I wouldnt expect you to even begin to understand the hypocrisy, it would require you to leave your trailer park and get an education.

[S2Killinit]

Microsoft does have really deep pockets though no denying that.

[FoxyGotGame]

Do you have a Shrine?

Otherwise, those words are in Vain...

/s

[NarfleGarthok]

I can't believe there are this many people who don't know what fraud is. Please, look it up before commenting.

[OldDude]

Not to mention some poor store clerk is probably going to get chewed for doing it. Don't celebrate because you lied to a store and got away with it. That's the moral of the story.

[nbalive89]

or fired all over this

[Pillsbury1]

Some people are just smart.

[nitus10]

No some people are just dishonest.

Basically he lied to the store hence "fraud" although the "stupid" award should go to the store.

[DougLord]

Every store should keep a record of every transaction for 12 months. If you don't have the receipt, show them the credit card you used so they can look it up.

[ReBurn]

For something like this I'm surprised that Target doesn't check the serial number to see if it was sold in one of their stores.

[lastking95]

Wasn't this obvious people always do things like this. I'd be lying if I said I've never done something similar with game bundles. Also one person returning the xbox for a ps4 doesn't mean people around the world did this. Some probably returned the tv too.

[bleedsoe9mm]

speaks volumes about the level of human being neogaf is attracting lately

[Reefskye]

What store accepts the return of a product without a receipt, sorry but I worked in retail in the UK no receipt no return as simple as that. I guess this is more common in US. How do you even refund something without a receipt that is lost money only way of doing it in a UK retailer is to use someone else's receipt who bought a the same product thus voiding the warranty on the other persons product.

[snoopgg]

I wish Bestbuy would do this deal with a ps4!

[thisgamer503]

Contact Sony and ask them to secure a marketing deal much like I'm sure Samsung/MS/Bestbuy did.

[kduplessis07]

So this guy either dealt with a incredibly stupid manager got lucky or is lying. Retailers don't do non receipted for that dollar amount. I've worked in retail management for years and would have told him to take a hike.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Strange. I've heard of this happening at Target quite often, at least on the Slickdeals forums, anyway.

[nbalive89]

probably why target have money problems they are no longer in canada

[AstroCyborg]

its crap like this that makes me ashamed to be a gamer

[nbalive89]

me too

[iliimaster]

damn good deal i love my xboxone

[joeorc]

While this is pretty Dirty to take advantage of retailer good will exchanges, do this often enough and the effect means stricter return policy that hurts you and other consumers in the end where like instead of 30 day return you get 14 days..return policy.

Sadly the consumers are their own worst enemy sometimes, not that corporate is any more of a devil or a saint..lol

But sadly things like this are expected and companies do not like it , but its a sad truth in doing business at one time all it took was your word and a handshake, now by that measure many would see you as a sucker.

Its when fair play in business at least tried to be , not what it has become in to days day and age.

Sadly that's just the way things have gone, but still stings to see it like this.
Corporate greed has always been there and just like corporate greed looking for a better deal, some consumers will play the same game and be just as ruthlessly play it against the corporate companies before its done to them.

Target will get to sell an extra xbox one and the money goes back to cover a payout for a product SKU they never had in the 1st place. Life will go on, just a little less kind karma going around from the result.

[IceKoldKilla]

If I lived in the US, I would have kept this! I have a PS4 though. I would have never thought of returning it though. I would have sold the Xbox One for a PS4. Or a trade with some that has a new PS4 (assuming I didn't have one). I would love a Xbox One right now. Halo MCC, Forza, backwards compatibility soon (I wanna play Import Tuner Challenge by Genki, again!) and play Gears too. I only had a Xbox 360 for a year starting from launch. Sold it for a PS3. I would have been too broke for Xbox Live and I enjoyed my PS3 A LOT so I don't regret it. Besides my Xbox would have probably died many times since I got it on launch. I hear mnay went through 2-3 consoles in the beginning. My PS3 overheated too around 2009. Got a free PS3 even without warranty + free game.

[nitus10]

Actually overheating in the PS3 is easily fixed. Just open the machine up if out of warranty and replace the thermal paste. You can do this on PC's as well if overheating is a problem. Total cost less than $5.00 for a small tube.

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[nbalive89]

@IceKoldKilla

well i have respect for you because your not a fanboy BUT a real gamer. You want both console for the first party exclusive but you prefer sony over microsoft nothing wrong with that but if you have the option you have both console better the 95% on here so for this i will give you a bubble.

[Soldierone]

I got the deal because I wanted it. The TV is fantastic and a basically free Xbox to go with it.

It was lame though because our store only had 6 in stock. two people beat us inside (granted the store was open for seriously 10 minutes) and they bought two each, they were trying to buy more but they couldn't. One person got just one bundle like us and they were sold out after that.

No doubt those first two people were flipping at least 3 of them....So friggin annoying.

Best Buy was going to give us a 1TB version though because they ran out, so I'm not complaining about them. They handled it well. Plus it was corporate that cut the stock at the last minute.....

[JasonKCK]

Only thing that's a fraud here is this article.

Complete and utter BS, but you get points for trying.

[GoodnessGreatness]

lol like I just said before. This is a great deal. You get a nice TV and then sell the Xbox for extra cash :)

[dreadz74]

lol sell the tv instead and you got a xb1 for 150 dollars what a deal indeed :)

[acemonkey]

good deal. its the tv and the xb1 ( with halo) it was like a black friday type of deal.

[JMyers]

So much salt about this article. But not really about the fraud... It seems more are upset about the trading in of the XB1 for a PS4