Sony Online Entertainment Answers Questions After Acquisition; Xbox, IP Ownership,PC Priority &More

After the acquisition by Columbus Nova, Sony Online Entertainment (or Daybreak Game Company, to be more precise, since the studio is going to be rebranded) President John Smedley answered some pressing questions over Twitter, in the attempt to clear the air around rumors and counter-rumors that are shooting all over the world wide web.

[Walker]

Wasn't expecting this at all.
Must've been a pretty penny.

Columbus Nova is a HUGE firm with their hands in a ton of different technology sectors.
I can definitely see them using this to have a foothold.

[traumadisaster]

Probably in the works for months...

[4Sh0w]

Wow. I never even heard of Columbus Nova before today. Why a bunch of suits? Ahh well, whats done is done I just hope Sony gets their finances in order before we see anymore sell offs...I prefer Xbox so more multi games is cool and all but I want sony to remain a strong player because both companies make each other better.

[Silly gameAr]

I think it's more the outside factors (hackers) costing Sony as a whole more money then anything. Seems like when they finally get back on the right track, these guys come out of their rat holes to cause chaos. You know that Sony Pictures hack must have cost them a pretty penny and before that, the PSN hack.

[k3rn3ll]

@Silly gameAr
They werent back on the right track. Playstation is str8 but the company still lost a ton last year overall.The Hack really didnt cost them all that much really. The Interview has made 40million so far of its 44 million budget.

[UltraNova]

What I really want to know is how much did the deal cost?

[NuggetsOfGod]

Pc priority is all I need to know!!

Xbox one/windows 10 crossplay incoming.

Imagine planetside 2 was a console port since it has less players on ps4.

Now between xbox and pc if they use dx12 api then ps4 might be the third wheel in development.

H1z1 looks crap to me though lol

@BiggerBoss
I am not talking about planetside 2 for xbox..
I am talking about future games.

Also I play on pc dude see my first sentence.

[BiggerBoss]

Youre delusional. You do realize how long it took to port Planetside 2 to Ps4 right? Even if Planetside 2 does get ported to Xbox One (which is very possible now), it wont be for a long time. And yet you think the Xb1 will be the preferred platform for the game over the Ps4?? Now ive heard it all

[DragonKnight]

"Pc priority is all I need to know!!"

Sad.

"Xbox one/windows 10 crossplay incoming."

Will never happen. Microsoft hates crossplay. Always have, always will. If you're looking for crossplay games, you want to look at Sony.

"Now between xbox and pc if they use dx12 api then ps4 might be the third wheel in development.

LMAO! You know, based on the previous line of comment you made, this actually sounds like you believe that DX12 would mean more players for the Xbox One. XD

"H1z1 looks crap to me though lol"

And no one is surprised what with your heavily tinted glasses.

[Death]

@DK,

You may want to check your facts before making statements like this. Microsoft is pushing game streaming from Xbox One to PC as well as cross platform play with the release of Windows 10. This is something they have wanted to do since Windows 8 according to the article I linked.

http://www.neoseeker.com/ne...

http://www.trueachievements...

[freshslicepizza]

@NuggetsOfGod
"Now between xbox and pc if they use dx12 api then ps4 might be the third wheel in development."

the ps4 will not benefit from dx12 but the ps4 will not be a third wheel for game support. not when it's the most popular console.

@DragonKnight,
"Will never happen. Microsoft hates crossplay. Always have, always will. If you're looking for crossplay games, you want to look at Sony."

you're thinking of cross play with ps4 and xbox one. now that windows 10 is coming microsoft seems quite adamant on pushing features that ties windows 10 devices together, including cross play with pc and xbox one. fable legends is one title they are advertising that will do this.

http://www.polygon.com/2015...

from the article,
"We're going to let the publishers decide the business model that they have on their titles."

"Spencer said that unlike Games for Windows Live, in Windows 10 developers get full access to Xbox Live and "everything that an Xbox One developer has."

people should not confuse how things panned out with windows live with how they are handling it with windows 10. besides, why are some people acting like they don't want games like planetside 2 to have this feature? strange.

[DragonKnight]

@Death: What Microsoft WANTS to do, and what they end up actually doing, are two very different things. History has proven that Microsoft + Crossplay = An Xbox fanboy's pipedream that will never happen. A new OS won't simply erase Microsoft's incessant control issues and I would bet actual money that the most you could ever hope for is first party titles that MS decide to release on both platforms having cross play, which is proven by the articles you linked. Fable Legends sure, Planetside 2, not a snowball's chance in hell.

[Gazondaily]

@DK

"Will never happen. Microsoft hates crossplay. "

That's why Shadowrun had it and why
Fable Legends is going to have it? Does that not count as crossplay? Or do you have a very specific definition of what you think crossplay is?

"History has proven that Microsoft + Crossplay = An Xbox fanboy's pipedream that will never happen"

Why can't it be a Xbox FAN'S dream? You seem remarkably hostile and pessimistic to the whole prospect. It's as if you wish it doesn't happen. *shrugs *

Ah well. MS have had some missteps in this regard but with the Win 10 announcement and Xbox support, I think it's set to change. Well here's hoping anyway.

[DragonKnight]

@Septic: "That's why Shadowrun had it and why
Fable Legends is going to have it? Does that not count as crossplay? Or do you have a very specific definition of what you think crossplay is?"

Woooooooooooooooooooooow. 2 whole games? Dem options tho. Honestly, you'd have had a better argument if you hadn't given such a pitiful list. You haven't made the case that Microsoft is for cross-platform play. You want to know who to talk to to find out? Talk to Square-Enix or Zenimax Studios for starters. See how willing Microsoft was to allow cross-platform play with their games.

"Why can't it be a Xbox FAN'S dream? You seem remarkably hostile and pessimistic to the whole prospect. It's as if you wish it doesn't happen. *shrugs*"

Hostile and pessimistic. I think you're reading into things because you're the aforementioned fanboy and not the aforementioned fan. Saying "Will never happen, Microsoft hates crossplay" contains no words of hostility and would only be pessimistic if there were no truth in the words. Again, talk to SE or Zenimax if you don't believe what I said but don't transfer your insecurities about Microsoft and the Xbox brand onto my comments.

"Ah well. MS have had some missteps in this regard but with the Win 10 announcement and Xbox support, I think it's set to change. Well here's hoping anyway."

Makes me wonder why you felt the need to go off with the other comments when this last bit is the most realistic approach you could and should have taken.

[JasonKCK]

DragonKnight dude... do you ever read the news on this site or do you just come here to comment?

MS made a big deal about cross play at the same time they showed HoloLense, Win 10, DX12.

[DragonKnight]

@JasonKCK: Since you repeated him, read my comment directed at Death for my response to your statement.

[4Sh0w]

Well Dragonknight if we're speaking historically its not like ANY console has really made great efforts in building a strong library of cross play games on pc. To their credit at least Microsoft has said they are going to change that, Fable is one their biggest IP's so Legends is a great start. You immediately downplay this while they just did an event about pc/Windows 10, new tech, new hardware AND dedicated a portion of that event to cross play on pc, PLUS announced a game deep in development(Fable Legends) that will debut cross play with pc for Xbox One= looks like more than lip service to me, lol yet you said "Will never happen"▶▶▶ Its happening right NOW.

-Don't let some dissapointing news make you post nonsense comments that really just make you sound bitter....you're better than that.

[DragonKnight]

@4Show: "Well Dragonknight if we're speaking historically its not like ANY console has really made great efforts in building a strong library of cross play games on pc."

Sure, but the only console referenced here belongs to Microsoft. I'm sticking within the topic. Plus, if we're speaking technically, Microsoft is the only console manufacturer that historically hasn't even entertained the notion of ANY kind of cross-play, let alone cross-play with the PC.

"To their credit at least Microsoft has said they are going to change that, Fable is one their biggest IP's so Legends is a great start."

Fable is only one of their biggest IPs because Microsoft has so few. Most of the Fable series is universally panned with the first game being the one most people refer to as the best. I wouldn't tout having Fable Legends as cross-play with PC as a huge, megaton deal. Especially since the one franchise they SHOULD be having cross-play with PC, that being Halo, isn't.

"You immediately downplay this while they just did an event about pc/Windows 10, new tech, new hardware AND dedicated a portion of that event to cross play on pc, PLUS announced a game deep in development(Fable Legends) that will debut cross play with pc for Xbox One= looks like more than lip service to me, lol yet you said "Will never happen"▶▶▶ Its happening right NOW."

Was any of that the topic of this article or my reply to NuggetsOfGod? No? Didn't think so. I didn't immediately downplay anything because I was never talking about Fable Legends or the Windows 10 conference. Death brought that up, not me. And I made the correct point that having 1 first party title being cross play with the PC isn't something to brag about nor is it an indication that Microsoft is making a real effort in the area of cross-play. They already had one game with cross-play, but neither game is as big as, oh say, FFXIV which SE approached MS about for cross-play AND not charging the Live fee to play and MS said no to both.

"Don't let some dissapointing news make you post nonsense comments that really just make you sound bitter....you're better than that."

Disappointing for whom? I couldn't care less about SOE being bought up. I have only ever played one SOE game, and not for very long. That was DCUO, of which I still have a disc copy which I suppose is completely useless but it doesn't matter because I haven't played it in years. And nothing I said was nonsense, what it is is something you and the other don't want/like to hear. That doesn't make it nonsense.

[Gazondaily]

Don't argue with DragonKnight. He knows better than all of u. Microsoft's latest conference was apparently a lie, he's not a Sony fanboy (lmfao), Anita Sarkeesian is the devil incarnate and feminists are coming for your children.

What you can't get to your head is, Fable Legends IS cross play. When you say it's never happening, you're making yourself like an even bigger pleb because there's the latest example of it happening right there. There are relatively few examples of cross play games on consoles anyway.

But yeah you carry on in your stubborn fashion. Please don't talk to me about insecurities lol. Your last tirade on our articles was cringeworthy where you shed enough tears for the whole fanboy populace.

Anyway, yeah, here's hoping for more cross play games in the future. It might not happen here but maybe it will with future titles. Who knows.

"Disappointing for whom? I couldn't care less about SOE being bought up. "

Okay :)

[Mehmeh]

@DragonKnight

Your comment history in this thread

Sad.

[freshslicepizza]

how does a topic about sony online entertainment being acquired by nova turn into bashing microsoft and cross play? it doesn't get any saltier than that.

phil spencer said these words about cross play,

"We're going to let the publishers decide the business model that they have on their titles."

he also said this,

"The other thing I'm interested in that scenario is cross-platform chat. We have a lot of people that get into parties and just start chatting even though they're playing different games at the same time."

but yet we are supposed to listen to somebody here instead who never seems to speak positive about the xbox? yeah, ok.

the people in charge of xbox have changed since games for windows live. windows 10 is also a new direction for microsoft. you also have to remember some people here on n4g seem to have a vested interest in downplaying anything related to the xbox division for whatever personal reasons. which is kind of immature because we should be supporting the growth of gaming technology much like shareplay on the ps4.

"History has proven that Microsoft + Crossplay = An Xbox fanboy's pipedream that will never happen."

who says things like this? a more rational person would be saying 'i hope microsoft does make headway in this area since afterall they are the makers of windows. i do have my reservations because of past history but hopefully things have changed now that windows 10 gives developers full access to xbox live unlike games for windows in the past.' but no, it has to turn salty because someone is so passionate at hating one company that it turns into yet another downward spiral into us versus them mentality. 'it's those crazy xbots and their pipedreams we need to crush because we are so loyal to sony and must fuel these console wars to the very end.'

[JasonKCK]

Wasn't Shadowrun crossplay with Windows Vista and 360?

[DragonKnight]

@Septic: "Don't argue with DragonKnight. He knows better than all of u. Microsoft's latest conference was apparently a lie, he's not a Sony fanboy (lmfao), Anita Sarkeesian is the devil incarnate and feminists are coming for your children."

Do you see there how you had to fall back on your lame childish ad hominems, bringing up irrelevant and off topic nonsense because you have a weak position and hope no one notices it? Yeah, I'm so concerned with the site's biggest Xbox fanboy typing anything without a shred of self-awareness.

"What you can't get to your head is, Fable Legends IS cross play. When you say it's never happening, you're making yourself like an even bigger pleb because there's the latest example of it happening right there. There are relatively few examples of cross play games on consoles anyway."

Has it happened Septic, or has Microsoft just said it's going to happen? I bet you actually think that MS' HoloLens tech will work EXACTLY how it was shown at the conference or better right? Just like Kinect did with Milo? Just like Kinect 2.0 has on the Xbox One? Microsoft says a lot Septic. You say something IS when the game hasn't even been released yet, let alone been released on PC. Pathetic.

"But yeah you carry on in your stubborn fashion. Please don't talk to me about insecurities lol. Your last tirade on our articles was cringeworthy where you shed enough tears for the whole fanboy populace."

Oh you mean the pitiful excuse for "what we don't like about ______" article where you said the PS fanbase was the worst completely unironically as you occupy a space of pure Xbox fanboydom? Those lame articles where you had to strain your mind to try and convince people that you actually had any problem with the Xbox One at all but everyone could see right through you? Those articles? Yeah, no tears shed from me bud. If anything you're the one that likely went crying to the mods that I posted your reasons in a comment to get my comment removed so that people could visit your fanboy site.

"Anyway, yeah, here's hoping for more cross play games in the future. It might not happen here but maybe it will with future titles. Who knows."

Sums up the way you write every time. Start with the fanboyism you insist isn't there, end with a neutral statement that seems to exist in complete ignorance of everything you just said.

Oh and if you don't believe me that I don't care about SOE being bought up by some company, here are 3 reasons you should. 1. You insist that I'm a Sony fanboy, or at least an anti-Microsoft fanboy, right? Did MS buy them? No? So then I don't have any reason to care about that. 2. I don't have any kind of account with any game service on PC because I couldn't play anything on this P.O.S. laptop even if I wanted to. It has a 1.6GHz processor which makes it good for nothing. 3. Feel free to look up my PSN NorthernDragon and look at the games I play on playstation consoles. You'll see DCUO there and that's pretty much it from SOE. You won't see any other of their admittedly sparse console offerings on my list at all and you'll see how little I played DCUO

@moldybread: In case you haven't noticed, I'm not even paying attention to a word you say. This is quite simply because of you came into my blog so I really have no interest in your response. Good day.

[4Sh0w]

@DragonKnight, lol you are talking in circles. Its very simple:

NuggetsOfGod said:

"Pc priority is all I need to know!!
Xbox one/windows 10 crossplay incoming."

You responded with:
"Will never happen. Microsoft hates crossplay. Always have, always will. If you're looking for crossplay games, you want to look at Sony."

-Now *IF you would have said something like "pc is NOT priority for Microsoft in regards to gaming"= OK given Xbox gets the majority support for their inhouse game dev thats a legit statement....but not only are you **factually incorrect** because you said "Will never happen" and it of course is happening with the upcoming release of Fable Legends but the rest of that statement sounds disingenuous because again NuggetsOfGod sounds excited about future cross play with pc= THIS IS WHY yoour response to that really sounds like petty cynicism. rather real critique of the availability. of cross play. I mean given that NO console platform has EVER made a real effort to bring about cross play with pc its ridiculous to bash only Microsoft for this reality, especially when the evidence rright now suggests they want to change that.

lol, You sound very bitter, as stated above if you weren't then a gamers logical response would fall somewhere close to optimism, sure even if you are hesitant about Microsofts future crossplay plans a "wait and see attitude" would sound like a neutral position, but downplaying and condemning 1 company for something that even the company you mentioned(Sony) or Nintendo have rarely done, if at all is textbook fanboyism. I mean its just a unusual business model in console gaming...again why not appreciate at least a first step on micros part to initiate it....in time *IF future investment in cross play doesn't happen THEN future critcism would be valid. Until then theres no need to pull out the pitchforks for Microsoft just because SOE is now multipat, oh wait you probably blame Microsoft. for that too. #conspriracy theorie13678.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Well this was already confirmed in the last article EveQuest, H1Z1, PlanetSide, DCU etc are multiplat now.

[christocolus]

Yup,its all multiplat now and the guy seems pretty excited to develop for xbox one.In the polygon article he states they'll have more funds to develop games now.

http://www.polygon.com/2015...

"So what exactly does this mean for you? It will be business as usual and all SOE games will continue on their current path of development and operation," the developer said in a post on Reddit. "In fact, we expect to have even more resources available to us as a result of this acquisition. It also means new exciting developments for our existing IP and games as we can now fully embrace the multi-platform world we are living in."

[MasterCornholio]

Well I hope they bring cross platform play to those games where possible.

I'm happy to see Xbox fans looking forward to them since they went multiplat.

:)

[Gazondaily]

Yeah definitely. Cross play needs to happen. Hopefully these guys can do it.

[SolidStoner]

War Thunder, nice WW2 simulation game does that now.. PS4 and PC players are playing randomly in all lobbies! hope it will be the future for all games... games like Battlefield or COD and so on.. easy could be played together with everyone...

[lemoncake]

they must have paid Sony a ton of cash to get literally everything, will be interesting to see how this pans out over the long term and to see if Sony will use this money to establish a new mmo focused company or if it will all go to clearing some of their debt.

[k3rn3ll]

The wouldnt sell a specialized dev just to creat another studio with the exact same focus. Much less with all their IPs

[rainslacker]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony just used their Sony Computer Entertainment division for such a thing. It always struck me as odd that they would have two divisions that are both focused on pretty much the same thing.

Consolidating them makes a lot of sense from a financial standpoint, but the downside is is that if those online ventures fail to have any traction, then it could pull the PS division down some. In this case though, I guess instead of consolidating they'd be starting fresh, which means a bunch of money had to be paid to get all those established IP's.

On the plus side, it means we'd probably see a lot more console ports of those online games, which we've been seeing a lot of lately anyways...likely due to the new gen being able to handle them adequately

We can hope at least, time will tell..

[KarmaV12]

I think they will be using that money to dig out of the whole they are in as a company (not directed toward PlayStation). They are losing money on a lot of devices lately. $1200 Walkman?? Really Sony. I don't understand it but they are digging their own grave with that. I want to see them bounce back but they need to get their heads out of their butts.

[joeorc]

And before, it was not multiplatform anyway because they were not on Pc? Oh' wait a min....LMAO

Many on this very forum even said that as a negative to Sony as a "game's that did not matter because they were not exclusive" hell you did not even need a D@mn playstation to even play these Old Ported PC game's.

Now suddenly this "earth shaking news" if you ask some on here = this huge Loss for Sony:::::: such a devastated loss for PC port machine that benefit's Microsoft more than any other Game console company because as you know PC as a platform = Microsoft, never mind Linux is also a PC platform.

Will Microsoft allow gamer's to even play these Old ported Games On Xbox Game console's without the requirements of xbox live Gold? Will they allow Silver User's to play online Multi Player without the Need for Gold?

[rainslacker]

I'm sure that Sony was compensated adequately for their "loss". You don't have to worry about them.

SOE didn't make many games for the PS line, although that was changing for the PS4.

As far as what MS will do...hard to say. The dev just says they want to make games for Xbox, doesn't say they are yet. You have a couple years before it becomes an issue to worry about. If they don't allow it, then sounds like a win for Sony and a loss for Xbox only fans. Complain to MS though if you have a problem with it because all this guy is saying is that he wants to make games for the Xbox.

Anyhow, I'm sure the billionaires who made this purchase did their due diligence in what it is they could do based on what they want to do.

[hello12]

To be honest x box fans are being dumb if they think this is a win for x box 1 and i see some x box fans are jumping for joy on the web already.Its not the end of Sony jeez some x box fans need to get a reality check sometimes.

The two big winners here is Microsoft and Sony. Microsoft will have more games available for its platform then it had before and Sony is going to have more money than it had before after selling. I think Playstation fans are wrong though most of money will go to fixing the dire monetary mess Sony is facing.

Playstation fans will still get to play those games and future games- just not under Sonys wing anymore- and to be honest there is know downside for Sony here really, that i see. They mostly likely got advise from the right people would this sale effect the companys share value and i am thinking they got a no answer back?

[christocolus]

KNWS i think most xbox fans are happy cos they'll hopefully get to play PS2, H1Z1, EQ,DCU etc on their platform too, so in that aspect its a win. MS gets more platform support from a new studio and xbox fans get to play these games on thier console too. The games were always going to be released on PS4 everyone knows that and i don't see anyone calling this the end of Sony. why would it be? its not news anymore,we all know Sony has been trying their best to get back into the green and this must have been a difficult decision for them but it had to be done.

[Kingscorpion1981]

Not PS2 only upcoming games that's coming out

[gamertk421]

Planet side 2 is too big of a title for them not to bring to Xbox One, especially if they are really pushing it that way.

[Gazondaily]

Ugh....what is this post abou? Seriously. So lame.

Anyway, I want this to manifest into cross platform gaming. Seriously, it's been too long and Playstation folk being able to play With Xbox gamers would be so wicked. Someone bridge the gap! It doesn't need to exist.

[stuna1]

I actually agree with you, maybe it will help quell some of the unrest between the different factions! Namely PC, PS4 and Xbox1. I think the days of exclusiveness are coming to a end.

[rainslacker]

I was wondering that myself...it's quite the rant. Think he just had to call hypocrisy or something.

SOE was never part of SCE(PS division). It was just a separate publisher with it's own devs, that Sony corporate owned.

Is it a loss for Sony? Maybe...I mean it does mean no console exclusive, but it's not like SOE was that big a thing for fan boy discussion. PS4 will still get the games. All they've done is go multi-plat.

Otherwise, I think it's cool. If cross play becomes available then awesome. SOE does make some great games and we can have some meaningful console wars.:)

[demonddel]

Where do you see Xbox fans jumping for joy at and if you do see anyone jumping slap the ish out of them and how can you tell if they are xbox fans just curious

[greenlantern2814]

I think your right, this is good for XB1/ MS, but doesn't hurt Sony of PS4. Also I have seen a lot of people who used to talk carp about PS2, Everquest and H1Z1 that now "really want" those games for their Xbox 1

[No_Limit]

Great to know all the SOE publish IPs are all going to be multiplatform. Can't wait to see PlanetSide 2 on Live servers as that is where I play all my online FPS on. Cross play with Windows 10 PC should also be possible now.

[rainslacker]

SOE uses it's own servers. Think they are separate from PSN servers, but not positive.

[TheGreatGamer]

I know SOE have received a lot of criticism but I for one am very glad as an xbox one owner to be able to enjoy these games now that they're coming to xbox one as well as ps4 and pc

[ltachiUchiha]

Trust me, if u guys get a chance, get dc universe online. Awesome game.

[ltachiUchiha]

The only down side is the huge file u have to download in order to play it because its like 20+ gb but its an mmo so its understandable. This was the 1st ive ever played and despite crap reviews after enjoying dc universe online for a whole year i stopped listening to reviews. IMO dc universe online is a must have game for any super hero fan who is looking for an awesome mmo.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Yay! I can play H1Z1 now since DAYZ is NEVER coming out for console lol. No fanboy wars people, this works for everyone!

[Bodge]

In the state H1Z1 is in now, you'll be waiting years.

[towelie1288]

Planetside 2 for Xbox one ! YAY i stated this earlier that SOE owned all these IPS's and that they are coming to xbox

[MysticStrummer]

I stand corrected. I made the mistake of believing what Wikipedia said about who owned which IPs. DCUO wasn't on the SCE owned IP list so I figured that meant SOE owned it and it would be fair game for multi plat status.

I hope if Planetside 2 goes to XB1 that we'll get cross play. I'm hooked on the beta and it's definitely a game that is very dependent on player population so the more the merrier. DCUO, H1Z1, and EQ would also greatly benefit from cross play.

[gangsta_red]

Wikipedia is a fickle mistress my friend. I hope they this dev can clean up DCU before they bring it to any other platform. I found the UI painfully confusing.

Interested to see how Everquest Next will look and handle.

[acemonkey]

We see how it all works out. even if they are saying yes on twitter until you see it on the system (ps4 and Xb1) then jump up and down.

[TheGreatGamer]

Just because they say it on twitter that doesn't mean they're lying

[acemonkey]

doesnt mean anything they replied to a tweet. i didnt say they was lying im said wait before u jump up and down over a game you dont know is coming. if you use twitter as a 100% source for gaming related news

[Dark_matter]

I'm just bubbling you up cause I like your profile pic

[AutoCad]

Well ill try out H1Z1 on xbox live when it come out..
Big Win for Gamers,Huge loss for Fanboys

[BlackTar187]

I know right now all those fanboys have to hide theri posts about not wanting these crappy F2p game son their systems anymore and now have to pretend like they always liked them.

[KiwiViper85]

And all those OTHER fanboys have to go and hide their posts about how these games are PS4 exclusives, Never to be seen on Xbox and about Sony's superior first party studios. While pretending to be happy for Xbox owners and the prospect of having to cross play with them.

It works both ways...

[BlackTar187]

Kiwi,

i actually disagree with the significance in the difference of what we each posted.

One is Hey We don't want the games F2P isn't yada yad

All yours is saying is oh no it's not exclusive anymore.

Not even close to the same level of fanboyism sorry

Also i don't see too many people parading SOE btw they are all on the PC anyways and have a much bigger PC following and the games are more gearded towards the PC crowd like they always have.

[KiwiViper85]

I disagree with your rebuttal.

MS Fanboys who used F2p as an insult towards PS4, don't have to play the games. If they thought they were trash before, there's a very good chance they still think they're trash. There is zero need to pretend that they liked them all along. This is all opinion

Sony Fanboys who used the fact that these games are PS4 exclusive as an insult towards Xbox, have to retract their statements as these games are no longer exclusive. A first party studio that was part of Sonys strong stable of first party developers, is no longer first party. This is all fact.

Fanboys on both sides are just as bad, is what I was originally trying to get across, but seeing as you felt the need to defend them I just had to clarify.

[BlackTar187]

Sorry dude but your rebuttal is extremely weak.

Also other then PS2 no one really hypes up SOE game son consoles. They are used as filler if anything. Again thanks for the reply but i disagree with your assessment completely.

Unfortnalety with this news i can't say hey next time you hear someone use SOE as a first party studio of value in their talks link me to the conversation but going back is stupid and going forward as you said it won't be said anymore.

[Joda]

Sweet. If this annoys one person it is all worth it.

[Maxor]

H1Z1 will come out for consoles two years from now. By then the buzz will be over and nobody will care.

[Baka-akaB]

i'm tired with both styles of fanboys , pretending it's nothing anyone should want or that it's a huge win and must have games .

We shall see what goes on any of those platform , and quite frankly, any mmo would benefits from having more than one single console platform , if they want a console future

[ThatOneRiggaNob]

I'm not too hype for these games coming to Xbox One since I tried DCUO on PS3 and didn't care too much for it. I haven't played h1z1 or ps2 but I guess giving them a try won't hurt atleast.

[BlackTar187]

So you're not hyped because you admittedly played less then 50% of the games you mentioned and weren't happy with that 30% footprint you tried?

Whoever thinks it's cool for a system to have less games for no reason at all need to leave gaming and go do something else. not syaing you are this person but it's this vibe i get from people who pretend that having less is somehow better.

[ThatOneRiggaNob]

Well I've watched h1z1 and planetside 2 before and I didn't find them too interesting which is why I also said it won't hurt to try them. Also I agree the more games on a console the better but that doesn't mean I have to be hyped for every single one of them that drop.

[BattleAxe]

Well it looks like SOE has control of all of their IPs, so in theory we could be seeing Planetside 2 on Xbox One :)

[MasterCornholio]

I hope it doesn't take them a long time to port it over. The PS4 version of PS2 took forever to make.

[gameon1985]

You know when I was typing N4g in the search engine I had a felling something big happened today, and boy was I right.

[Kingscorpion1981]

Besides PS2 SOE is a mediocre developer at best.

[Maxor]

Sony's financial fall out continues.

[chaosx]

I still cant get my head around this..... Sony must be in some real trouble if they have too sell the shop thats making games they have been touting as a Tent pole for the PS4 free to play world. H1Z1 and PS2 arent even launched and it looks like they will go to the competition.
This wont be good for the PS4 in the long run.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Story of the day, everybody loves Playstation games, it just takes them going to another platform for some to realize it :-). In all seriousness, Sony got some money and Daybreak gets more funding. Win win for everyone!

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Sony chops off another division in hopes that it will help them survive. I'm sure the timing has a lot to do with the delay of their 2014 fiscal yearly financial report, which is now pushed back until March.

Either way, this is an utter megaton. Anyone who thinks this company isn't in trouble, or actually has a future, is kidding themselves.

[joeorc]

@MultiConsoleGamer

You just do not freaking get it, you just cannot go in and force the only Share holder IE: Sony to see its Non for public buy in "held" Asset when you do not have the stock public its a (held) asset in other words the Stock is only being held, and the only stock holder is an inanimate object a company..not a person a corpus that will not take that part of the company Public in a (IPO) there is freaking a (Stock restriction) IE. You or i or a freaking Multi-Billion $$$ hedge fund would have to depose a Japanese Held private stock by Non Japanese?

Hello ? In the freaking past 40 D@mn Years remember TBoone Pickens and that Billion $$$ Bid in a Hostile Take over and what happened to his play in Japan? It freaking Failed!!!

Japan is not like the d@mn west in mergers & ACQ's it just does not work that way thinking you can cowboy your way in there, thats a d@mn pipe dream of the west.

How many d@mn times do i have to post this? Huh? There is only one d@mn share holder of SCE inc. It is Sony, and guess what just because you buy stock into a company does not = you being able to force said company to take such "non Public" asset public for a d@mn Buy in. The Fact that you are trying to use this as ammo in your Miss information diatribe is rather a Disservice to people when you are spreading FUD in an agenda When you know d@mn well what you are infact claiming is just not even remotely True.

[maniacmayhem]

Calm down...it's video games.

[rainslacker]

Hmmm...the delay was due to the hack of Sony's film division. The effects of the hack weren't known well enough yet to put a monetary value to. Investor's haven't been complaining, because that loss is kind of important.

Delaying the report won't change the report, and this sale wouldn't be reflected in the delayed report anyways as reports talk about things that have already happen, and not things that happen after the cut off date.

The delayed report wasn't for a yearly report anyhow, it was for a quarterly report.

Do you ever get tired of being so wrong about everything?

[urwifeminder]

Lol well that is hilarious guessing that the music division and movie division will be next , running it into the ground Sony ha ha keep those old guys calling the shots like its 1985.

[SaveFerris]

What about the parity clause?

[Azzanation]

This is obvious with Sony's finical outcomes in the past few years. They simply cant support and afford these studios, also explains the cut backs on there heavy AAA studios like Sucker Punch. Only fanboys will claim everything is fine but this isn't a doom post but more evidence of Sony in the wrong basket.

[joeorc]

http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

3D stacked TSV's

Sample price:

2,100 yen
Or close to $18.00 /sensor in mass production it will of course drop further in price/sensor but look at which companies use the sensors in smart phones, you would be surprised who buy's them for the smart phone's they make.
Apple and SAMSUNG for One.and two..lol

Also back in 2012
http://www.engadget.com/201...

so are you catching a trend here, a lil over 2.6 freaking years ago, Sony spent another billion, and to increase by another 20,000 its about a cool billion and about 2.5 years of R&D sure there are plenty of companies more than willing to line up and challenge that market investment/s

Well let's see: selling off a part of the company that A: was making pretty much only PC games with Licence UP's for those iP's that cost Sony a large cost in cash, and than those very same Free 2 Play games did not reach the goals set for the investment COST's required to really get a larger return on investment.
B: while also employing 1000 developers with a pay out on AVG: $80,000 or more a year/developer.

Oh' let's not forget

Sony is also increasing production in a very popular single board PC...that now will have officially be supported by Microsoft as a windows 10 device!

Sony is creating 30 new jobs at its factory in Bridgend county as the technology giant quadruples its production to cope with the expected demand of a next generation computer.
It is taking on the extra staff at its Pencoed site after unveiling the new budget-priced Raspberry Pi 2.
The production rate will rise from 18,000 units to 80,000 units per week.
There are currently 70 workers at the plant.

http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-wa...

"About 4.5 million Raspberry Pis have been sold since the board's release in 2012, and Upton expects to sell three million Pi 2 and model B+ models this year."

and

"The intention is you can take a Windows 10 application that you can run on Surface, PC, a Windows phone and now Raspberry Pi as well."

http://www.techrepublic.com...

Vs' only needing to increase by 30 workers, and shifting from what was 18,000 units/week to now 80,000 units a week, with each of those units geared to sell for a retail price of $35.00 per/unit

With now those units are now a windows 10 certified Computer to dev Windows 10 apps to boot, and the windows 10 is free to put on the unit for dev's to sign up.

Yea it was no contest...Sony was asked to trim down COST's and overhead to return to profit. Add in now the increase in 20000 wfr's/month in CMOS sensors for Sony's Fab plant that will be getting rather large order's by Samsung and Apple..yeah it was not much of a stretch to see which was going to be sold and which was not!

[Father__Merrin]

hmm dunno what to make of it, it certainly makes sense these have always been pc games and not part of playstation.

i think at the end of the day general for all games like hizi planetside may be better off multiplat, look at warframe?

as long as it dont effect the release of planetside on ps4

[Mikey Mike]

H1Z1 going multi is good for the game, more resources to fine tune... SONY dumping SOE, gains money and has to use less resources to maintain servers... WIN WIN

[DanteVFenris666]

Whether the Xbox side didn't want to admit it before and the Sony side not now soe was one of my favourite studios. Dcuo, planetside2, Everquest made the Xbox look like shit with those games being exclusive. Dcuo is one of my fav games to play on ps4 between new releases. So it's great that Xbox is getting them and now xbox fanboys can't trash such amazing titles.

Hopefully this means dcuo will get more funding and not have to reuse a lot of old assets to make new content

[bsquwhere]

Sony sells SOE and Xbox fanboys are thrilled not because they get games they hated 48 hrs ago (now they love them of course) ,but because they think Sony is going out of business. Sad and pathetic. Let's hope people lose jobs and money, yes let's cheer for millions of dissapointed gamers. Morons. I'm glad Xbox gamers get the possibility to enjoy these titles as well. I own all 4 so I'm good. Now go play some games.

[testerg35]

Doesn't it also work the other way? Sony fans who liked these games now think they suck and that SOE was a waste of resource?

[xDHAV0K24x]

amen

[Ippiki Okami]

"Doesn't it also work the other way? Sony fans who liked these games now think they suck and that SOE was a waste of resource?"

No. If you look at the financials SOE hasn't had any hit games on pc just niche ones. My guess is they'll go "pay to win" like they wanted to with H1Z1 until sony said no and made them give refunds. The damage was done to the brand and sony dumped them to the first company who offered money. You can tell this was the case by how fast they rebranded the company.

[Maxor]

If you look at the financials Sony is virtually dying. The company is bleeding money at an astounding rate with no end in sight.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Unless you are a fanboy, it's all good. DCUO was an awesome game. Planetside and H1Z1 look cool. Maybe (a big maybe) those games will come to XB1.

[BlissSeeker]

May someone please bring up to speed on this whole Sony fiasco?
I've been out of it for a few days.