The creator of the Dead or Alive fighting series has launched a scathing attack on the developers of the latest title in the series.
It got a little out of hand I agree. But, then again, who am i to complain hihihi.
yeah. to make the DLC and game, that im Definitely going to be buying now, more erotic to get ppl like me to buy it-- is pretty low. ...oh wells. disusting practices for benevolent perverts, welcome to the industry. hopefully the gameplay is good. its a shame to create something and see it turn into something you didnt intend. but thats life, do something about it or move on.
i kinda agree with him. DOA5 has always been advertized for its sexy fighters than what the game is about. DOA has always been a very solid fighting series and i think what they are doing with DOA5 marketing is wrong.
I also agree with the master Itagaki san. He makes no illusion of his motives with the fighting game and DOAXVB games being separate fan service whilst keeping the integrity of the fighting game in tact. DOA 5 has become well DLC milked which is saddening and now the Last Round milking some more.
DoA was advertised with boob models and skin texture since day one and it wasn't a problem for anyone while he was behind the steering wheel. IMO, if you're past that skin texture and boob model DoA has just gotten good and someone's jelly.
I agree, like for me it got worse with the 300 billion costumes, and now a new gen version with even more costumes coming after it XD
what a big hypocrite. the guy who made DOA so sexualised is now bashing it.
Yep. He played around with the sexiness in a subtle way in the fighting game, but made DOA Extreme and Beach Party to satisfy the perverts. I have no problem with preverts, I also have my moments, but I understand what he is saying about not allowing the core gameplay to be overshadowed by the perversion. Perversion is a quick sell, but if they keep the game strictly about the fighting gameplay, in would have a loyal fan base.
The first game on Original Xbox was about Fighting...it was a fighting game.
LOL he was okay to sell the early titles though with sex. Making the boobs huge on fighters that bounced realisticly etc.. Whether you agree with him or not I feel he is still sore abotu whatever happened over at Team Ninja.
I agree with him. DOA basically represents everything I despise with the video game industry. It's time the industry grew up and stop producing juvenile garbage like this. If people want video games to start being recognized as a serious art form like books and film, crap games like DOA need to stop existing. This also goes for other franchises like Metal Gear, God of War, etc. I love those franchises but Clean up your act and stop using needless salacious scenes in your game to sell copies. It cheapens what otherwise are great games.
That's like saying movies are all immature because movies like Snow Dogs or Porky's exist, or even just the annual "<insert genre> Movie" parodies. These games do not obscure the shining examples of art in the medium any more than the aforementioned detract from the merits of films like The Theory of Everything, for example.
Whoa so your either gay or just a lonely gamer
Gay here, he's just a prude that doesn't watch TV, listen to music, or walk by the romance novel section at the grocery store.
The same could be said for movies and books. Fifty Shades of Grey ring a bell?
meh, everyone loves boobs. all in all its a good fighting game with alot of depth. its easy to learn but hard to master. im just happy that its finally coming out on PC next month! i think all fighting games (all games in general really) should have clothing options like in DoA, i love it <3 you get to choose whatever you want no matter how skimpy it is. and who would judge you?
You are completely disregarding several groups by saying that statement.
He's only pissed because it was his money train, and he got derailed. As erotic as DOA5: LR is, it doesn't even come close to the costumes and tit bounce seen in Tomonobu Itagaki;s versions of DOA1 and DOAX. And hey guess what.... when girls jump around.... their tits bounce..... it's a fact, look it up. ;) Devil's Third is NEVER coming out, and nobody gives a shit about it... The hype train died 4 years ago. He can blast DOA all he wants, it's not going to bring any good publicity to the outdated turd of a game he's wasted 5 years of his life developing.
Devil's Third was revived by Nintendo and it looks great....
Maybe , just "maybe" he should focus on "his" game ...so it can be released in some form , before taking jabs at other people work that are actually releasing content in a timely manner ? Just saying ....
when i jump around, my tits bounce, too. Its not just girls.
Lets say... "this game found its audience..and the developers and the publisher know their audience" As a fighting game fan who cares mostly about the gameplay and not virtual female characters I stick to other fighting games and don't support DOA though.
For those too lazy to click.. The creator of the Dead or Alive fighting series has launched a scathing attack on the developers of the latest title in the series. In a recent interview, Tomonobu Itagaki, who left Japanese gaming company Team Ninja in acrimonious circumstances back in 2008, blasted the move by the studio to make Dead or Alive 5 "more erotic", and referred to their attempts to "milk loyal players out of [their] money" with erotic DLC as "disgusting". He added: "Everybody is a little perverted; even I’m a little perverted. But, it was for that very reason I created DOAX [Dead or Alive Xtreme]; in order to target the people who wanted something a little bit more casual and sexy but at the same time keeping that tone separate from the 'fighting game' that is DOA. DOA is now a total mess." I agree Full interview http://www.orochinagi.com/2...
I agree also ... I already got accused of being a 'Feminist' on N4G (Proof? check my history) regarding an objection/comment I made regarding this game. I like the fighting mechanic, but went totally off it when they merged a good game with what amounts to crass material usually found in a boys adult magazine. The Female fighters were Sexy before, but it got Sleezy when School Girls (Honoko) were being portrayed as Big Boobs & Panties. Maybe immature Guys will not try to understand a Females point of view. This (America/UK) is not Japan, and the dumb argument little boys commented to me, like 'Girls dress like Sluts anyway, and we (Females) all love topless guy pics' is whack! I wouldn't ever be interested in a topless school boy, yet a bunch of boys argued at the comment and down voted me on mass? One disillusioned Girl even agreed with the boys??? ;/
You said it right there. They are boys. Not men.
most of the raunchier outfits are DLC. ...if you dont like them, or dont want to participate, then dont. the game is still a fun fighting game with some pretty cool moves.
"...crass material usually found in a VOGUE magazine." **************DEADPOOL AUTO-CORRECTION***************
Wow. So he's both a douche and a hypocrite.
This is why I don't have it in my fighting game collection. I've got am all but this one is less focused on fighting.it's more along the lines of Barbie dress up rather than being sexy. DOA needs an overhaul.
whats the practical difference between releasing a fighting game with sexy DLC compared to releasing a fighting game, then releasing a separate game with the same characters dressed sexy? honestly it makes more sense in this case to have all of the outfits DLC as opposed to a separate game. if you're just a fan of the fighting game, then dont worry about the dress up thing, its 100% optional. I just wish they would introduce a volleyball game mode and a really good photo mode.
It is optional ,but when a company focus on outfits and not the fighting engine. thats where you know when something is up.its the same game since part one.bring back the old director and watch what happens.
Team Ninja has been absolutely terrible after he left, both in terms of the games they've released, as well as the decisions they've made for those releases (censorship, leaving the original Japanese language out of the portable games, toning down the difficulty, adding boring sections to perfect games, and of course the neverending greed when it comes to DLC).
but they brought the DOA franchise back to playstation
and breast physics are not perverse because it was in the very first DOA. Please. Everyone knows sex sells and that's what the developers are doing. They are there to make money-not because they are there for the consumers. If that's what the consumers are buying into and its making money then why mess with the formula? Call of Duty is a fine example. Every year. Why? because it is what sells. They will only stop if people stop buying into it. Only then will it force them to change because its not making them any money.
"He added: "Everybody is a little perverted; even I’m a little perverted." Hahahaha he thinks he's just a little perverted? What a modest man.
So the developers mad because they sexed up DOA EVEN MORE then it was before....I'm going to have to purchase this game and play for hours on end so I can make a sound conclusion myself. Judging by the steam page pre-order bonuses they might be on to something.
Why is he mad he made the template. When everyone else was focusing on fighting mechanics and realistic characters and hit detection he was busy working on breast physics. He is just bitter because now they continued his trash without him showing him that he wasn't in anyway special. DOA was on a fast decline the moment he introduced his perverted ideals. When you have players just jumping to watch how the female characters breasts react in a fighting game you know you have messed up. Thank you Itagaki now shut up and accept you f*#ked up a good series.
Pretty much this. Christie's spandex dominatrix outfit from Dead or Alive 4 puts a lot of the costumes in DOA5 to shame in the erotic department. This guy is just jealous.
Great news everyone they delayed DOA to March 30 on steam for 28 new costumes YA!
Let me first say this is coming from a fan of this game since 2002 and DOA3. I have the utmost respect for Itagaki. If not for him we would not have DOA in the first place so i will always respect him for that. After all this is just his opinion and i would listen to his faster than some internet forum person. DOA has done both good and bad for the series, on one side that have actively made sure that the DOA franchise is relevant and being talked about. But on the other their prices for the costume packs are getting quite high as of late. Especially the Halloween packs. Anyways I want people to know that aside from the erotic portions of the game which have always been present this game has never been smoother and better. I loved the redesign for 5 and i do like the option for new outfits that come regularly, lets also not forget the new characters and the new stages that are coming. and remember the DLC is always optional.
DoA5 is best one yet, i will quit gaming if Devils turd is gonna turn out better than Ng3 or DoA5.
Yeah I got to agree. The tagline was "I'm a Fighter" in the beginning right? Which was kind of a settle way of acknowledging the DOA game being known to have fan service, but it was no substitution for actually delivering a solid fighting game experience. The nature of the DLC and all it's iterations have kind of made a mockery of that despite it being a good game the way it's marketed makes it out to be just eye candy. This in itself will turn people away, it's hard for someone who doesn't know what DOA is all about or who might want to jump in to take the game seriously at first glance. I personally think they need to dial it back if there is ever a DOA6 take things a bit more seriously and not have every DLC outfit for the ladies just be a different variation of being half nude lol it doesn't have to be that way it's a good game at it's core.
The hell are you talking about "dialing back"? Have you even heard of Dead or Alive? If you're that offended, piss off.
Nope. I haven't even played Dead or Alive. I just saw screenshots of the game and decided to make a post about it.
I'm not sure what he's blasting. He was the one who created the over sexualized appeal of the game along with the beach volleyball games that followed. And all the girls in the ninjas gaiden games under his supervision got more over sexualized. And wasn't he fired for molestation accusations? Pot calling the kettle black. If he's calling the business model of dlc disgusting and milking, it can be argued, but that's simply the direction the industry is going. DLC gives insensitive to hold on to old game and another way for devs to make money when second hand game sales steal money from developers. In any case I don't care either way DOA was never my fighting game so tecmo koei milking their strongest franchise is business.
What is the issue with cosmetic DLC? I fail to see how it "milks" DOA players. That is actually DLC I support as it doesn't give any competitive edges. Someone wants to buy an outfit to make their character skanky? Fine. Someone doesn't? Fine. Game still plays the same at the end of the day.
Its all supposed to be entertainment. So I view them as various forms of entertainment. If one day we have a game with lots of gore, nudity, sexual themes sell very well? Its because thats serving a entertainment sector that other games have not been comfortable going to all too often. When in fact this is the way the medium should progress like movies and music has. Its an evolution that takes place in all entertainment to reach a mainstream adult audience.
What is the difference between last gen & current with this game? Im sure theres more to it than just a resolution boost...
I don't follow DOA but if I had to guess its probably like any other fighting game update. Tweaks to the engine and cast, possibly a new mechanic, maybe some new characters?
the next gen version will have 2 new stages
Thats it? :/
Not like his oatmeal face made a better DOA game. It's the exact same thing. It's shit.
I haven't played anything b4 DOA 5 but I kinda agree it felt like a mess and was soulless
I asked Tomonobu about giving guidance on DOA5 and he said Team Ninja didn't want his input.
The only thing that bothers me about DOA is that they milk the hell out of the DLC. If you want all the locked DLC content, it's going to cost you the Total: $293.78!!! D.O.A 5: Last Round or D.L.C 5: Cash Hound?
The real problem with this game is the engine. I'm so tired of looking at the same old crap. Just look at the character models. They haven't changed anything at all.
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