Xbox Division head Phil Spencer has been quite active in responding the questions from the fans, and he posted another round of answers.
In my opinion there is no reason why your profile and games you downloaded couldn't be accessed through some kind of cloud storage and played through your Xbox One. MS has already showed that your profile can be accessed on different devices. I am sure that the games tied to your account could be accessed and played also. This to me is what they should be working on and it would also encourage digital buys which I am positive a lot of these devs want anyways.
Unfortunately Microsoft and Sony don't value their customers enough to take into account the vast amount of digital content people purchased on 360/PS3. There should be systems in place to allow it, but unfortunately there aren't. Instead, Microsoft decided to ignore it completely and infamously state, "You must be backwards to want backwards compatibility" and Sony has opted to charge ridiculous fees to stream content you've already bought. It's a sorry situation, really. Letting people have access to their content should have been one of the top priorities of the new consoles.
thankfully the way Xbone is set up now it seems we will not have to worry about our content from here on out not being accessible for future systems
This is a reason I don't sell my older consoles for quite a while. My 60gb (500gb) ps3 has the capability to keep my memories playable without the hassle of paying all over again. But similar to what you're saying - Sony and Microsoft are a business and profit will always be focal... In a perfect world they would integrate b/c or at least make it easier and cheaper to access their library of games, but that's not going to happen anytime soon until they go retro and put into collections in about 20 years lol.
Well that's total BS $20 a month isn't ridiculous it's right up there with gamefly. You come off very biases and bitter. Eventually you won't need a console at all just an account and you'll be able access PS Now on any device as long as theirs wifi...hell even 4G lte one day. Add to that with the data transfer projects going on here in the US, UK and Japan even lag won't be an issue. People are so short sighted and fail to read the writing on the wall. Traditional hardware will change to the device you bring with you everywhere and all your content will bs available with no buffering or lag at the highest resolutions...I'll put money on it in 5 to 7 years or less...
(edited) If xbox were to get back compat some time soon, would that change things much for you?
It's good that Microsoft will bringing PS4-like features to XBO including Remote Play which will be perfect for playing a full Xbox game on a tablet whilst away from your TV. Also that Microsoft is looking at a PlayStation Now service to enable backwards compatibility. And that now Oculus Rift has generated a lot of enthusiasm they have announced HoloLens. However one of the reasons Apple beat Microsoft to the smartphone was because Microsoft, a company with so much tech experience and resources sat back on the success of Windows which also allowed newcomer Google to dominate search. Microsoft and Phil Spencer are focused with keeping up with market trends but they also need to push the market forward and come up with new ideas and an original vision.
they would have to pay a hefty price to run many servers for that many uploads and to handle all of the constant inputs all day long everyday. that is why sony is charging for subscription. i wouldnt put BC emulators in my console either just so i can charge you to stream games instantly without taking up HD space.
@HiddenMission. The $20 / month price isn't bad, but tell that to the person who bought TLOU Survival Edition for $79.99, then bought TLOU PS4 for $54.99, and now is being asked to pay $20 / month to play it for the rest of time... You have to look at the Total Cost not, just the singular cost of PS Now... Not paying attention to the total cost is just as near sited as not seeing PS Now's overall value.
Well if your talking about hard BC then the X1 not strong enough to emulate the 360. And you lames here were already complaining about the cost of the X1 to begin with. Focus on new games is what the end-goal is not BC. If you really wanted to be lame and play old games you will find a way to do that. May not be practical but you can do it.
I like BC and would pay extra for it, but let's face it, most consumers don't care and don't want to pay more. I can always keep my old console (or a spare when they go on clearance due to the new generation), but what happens when some of those games features are turned off or no longer available (i.e. DLC downloads)?
Sorry, but paying $20 a month to access games and DLC you already own on a previous console is out of this world ridiculous.
Who cares about last gen really? I have a PS4, still in the package....I need to play the last PS3 backlog games first...once done, never look back, it's fu***ng next gen!!!!!
So basically you're saying they aren't looking out for the customers by making the consoles cheaper? Do we not remember the PS3 launch issue? It was $600 because of backwards compatibility. Once they removed the feature (which required creating extra hardware for the console to process the PS2 functionality) the console got cheaper. In my opinion, they are looking out for what's best moving forward for the consumers. Playstation has Playstation Now which although it's a paid service it's a form of backwards compatibility which shows they atleast have some sort of BC and I think Microsoft is supposed to do something similar with Azure. They are right. Backwards compatibility over price and Next Gen functionality is moving backwards.
yeah i think sony went agaisnt BC in a way to save money and make money knowing they was gonna use gakai to make psnow. MS also will prob do similar but they dont care about past digital content,thats why i dont like the digital push because at will they can take it away and it will become a lost generation.
I totally agree. There are many people on my friends list that refuse to purchase an xbox one because they can't play their arcade games. If the current Gen systems won't support backwards compatibility, they can at least allow you to transfer your arcade games.
for the same reason they can't on PS3, Xbox 360/PS3 were Power PC based and Xbone/PS4 are x86 based... whether its digital or physical doesn't matter its a hardware issue
How come you can play PS3 games through PSNow on your PS4? Couldn't the same be applied to the digital games on your 360 to play on the X1? Couldn't your digital games on 360 be uploaded through the "cloud" and then played through your Xbox One? That's pretty much what I was implying at.
gangsta red, yes you can play anything through streaming... Microsoft could implement something like PSNow but then it'll probably be the same as PSNow too expensive and inconvenient
How is NOW "inconvenient"? No going to the store to purchase the game, No waiting for mail delivery between returns(hoping you don't end up in the Wait Queue), No physical storage for disc of data, No downloading +20 Gigs per game. How much more easy and convenient do you need it to be?
360 is a power pc, One is an AMD x86. They aren't compatible. The only thing MS can do is remote play, or a service like PS Now.
You actually DON'T know that. Sure 360 is powerpc, and Xb1 is x86, but that doesn't just rule out the Software wizards at MS being able to run a 360 emulator to play games. If ANYONE can achieve a solid software program that perhaps sharpens or even enhances 360 games using a software emulator, it's Microsoft. And, that's not including the secondary option of Playing 360 games via streaming on XB1 or PC... So yeah...we don't know- and we are all just speculating. But I wouldn't put it past MS to try to one up PS now, perhaps they could include it with the cost of Xbox live??? If nothing else, if MS went the PSNOW route and went for streaming, I bet they would at LEAST unlock titles you have already purchased digitally or allow those titles to be streamed for free etc. Ps now's mixed reception and pricing is probably reason enough for MS to try one up Sony at their own game, not to mention the fact that it's the most requested feature on the Xbox Feedback site.
considering how weak and underpowered these "next gen" consoles are the very least they should have backwards compatibility. theres something called emulation which would cost Sony and MS nothing to develop. ironic thing is if there was backwards compatibility people would be buying more last gen games as downloads. if anything proves your a fool for buying downloads its that. i spent thousands on downloads last gen and now that my last gen consoles have stopped working thats money down the drain.
I've always been one to keep my old systems around at first so BC wasn't much of a problem. After awhile I just get rid of the old systems when the new one is used more. I can totally understand a need and want for BC consoles though. There's really NO reason all future consoles can't be compatible with past games, especially considering when they're digital. That's my biggest concern going into the next gen. If PS5 and XB2 aren't compatible with this current gen I'm going to be PC only
Sold my 360, but I still have like 15 + games I downloaded for it, so it would be cool to eventually play games like Skate 2 again.
Just like you need a firmware update when upgrading to a new GPU in a PC, which allows you to play all of your old PC games, you would think the same would be true for Xbox 360 games on Xbox One, since they both use a familiar PC architecture. In Sony's case, this wouldn't work since the PS3 used the Cell Processor, and the PS4 uses the same kind of PC architecture as the Xbox One, which is why streaming on PS Now is the only option to play old PS3 games, otherwise every PS3 game would need to be ported over to the PS4, which is expensive.
The ps3 cpu aka the cell is more powerful than the ps4 cpu. That could be the reason for lack of bc
I like how he isn't afraid to call something out that was terrible..... GFWL
Is that a pic of Phil Schwarzenegger? Lol.... "I told you fanboys, We'll be back"
Get this done and people will speak of it like the shot heard around the world and you Spencer will be forever remembered.
All hail Phil spencer!
I love how a certain group will take it personal when someone says this.
Same group that circle jerked over Cerny?
I hate having my 360 and Xbone taking up living room space, especially with my PS4 and WiiU there also. Its a fuqing drag.
I bet it is lol.
So many problems.
LMFAO. After reading it again i see your point. LOL. Still Id rather not have the 360 there.
Move your PS4 and Wii U into your bedroom. Problem solved. I have my systems in 3 different rooms in my home and it works out great.
Easy get rid of the 360.
Shouldnt the source of this be twitter and not Dualshockers... So now they get away with that to? On topic: I like what they have shown so far with Windows 10 and games, there will be plenty. Windows 10 is still months away.
I love how Phil takes alot of his time to clarify and answers all concerns. He really doesn't have to, but just shows how dedicated he is to making Xbox and MS successful.
I would love to see at minimum them create a way for us to access the digital library of the 360, but not a PSNow route of basically asking me to pay for access again via another subscription. BC shouldn't come with an additional cost. We rewarded you before with our loyalty and purchases so they should have rewarded us with BC baked in.
I heard the IOS and Android Xbox Live apps for streaming X1 games is heavily advanced and likely to be available by June for certain IOS and Android devices, and that X360 games will also be streamed to X1 and Tablet by the end of the year at which time Microsoft will push the X1 heavier and pretty much end manufacture of the 360 hardware and instead push 360/X1 and PC games as one single OS under Windows 10 or via apps on other OS. Next Xmas could be a game changer for them. The holographic headset, not so much. Apparently although the developer kits are due around Summer for selected developers to make use off, a full commercial release for the public is still at least 2-3 years away and cost may be a limiting factor to begin with too, pushing a full retail release to a possible Windows 11/New console type scenario. I seriously doubt you will be playing Minecraft on your tabletop this console generation!
Dear Microsoft: Wouldn't it be great if you offered an XBL Platinum for an extra $20-40 / year that gave subscribers digital streaming of all already owned digital games from 360 and X1?
After trying out PS Now i can honestly say that i dont want to stream my games. I want to be able to download my digital purchases from 360 onto my xbox 1. Good luck trying to play Virtua Fighter 5 online while streaming it.
I do agree with this a lot! Personally, I want choice though. Download the games or stream on any device possible. I am sure a high end pc could emulate X360 so you could download and run games on the PC.
Different strokes for different fokes i guess.the family loves playstation now and 15 dollars a month is cheap.no downloads,harddrive space and tons of digital content to play. A movie cost about 11 dollars, a meal at restaurant cost about 15 dollars so paying 15 monthly for Netflix gaming to me is a easy choice to make.
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Would be nice to have backwards compatibility or at least let us bring over all our digital games. Haven't tried ps now since the first beta but really have no interest in it. Most the best ps3 games will probably be ported anyway.
If you wanted to play your old 360 games you should have kept your 360. I still have mine and dont have to deal with a paywall to play my old games.
digital is the future my @$$ why cant i play games purchased from my ps3 xbox wii digitally on my new console ? how can this system take over with ps5 on the way and the next nintendo and xbox 4 on the way knowing everything i buy wont be as assessable as i figured it would of been when i buy a new big TV for myself i still have all my DVDs blurays vhs tapes i can view on it etc
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