Xbox One early adopters getting shafted

GGG writes about why they believe Microsoft's efforts to show appreciation to Xbox One early adopters aren't good enough.

[Foehammer]

So let me get this straight

For every product pl buy as early adopters the manufacturer should provide compensation?

Looks like Flat Screen Tv companies owe me big time

Diddo for the $600 PS3, after all, the X1 is exponentially more powerful than a PS3 and cost me $100 less, launch to launch.

[Halo2ODST2]

there should be a benifit to spending £400 for a new console while already having a x360, a year ago, what was the benifit to owning a x1 over the 360 ? none, the 360 had more games, better games, and actually has more features and is still easier to use, and is cost effective, they bulit the sales for the x1 with their blind ignorance, they should at least get something from wasting half a grand

[DarthJay]

The benefit is you got to play it for a year. DERP. No one forced anyone to buy at launch or in the year leading up to the price drops.

Hey guess what... pretty much every product ever has had price drops as they age. WHOA. What a news flash!

[PS3Freak]

Our society is FAR too entitled. It's pathetic.

DarthJay hits the nail on the head. You buy a console(or anything really) early and at full price to use it right away. That is the benefit.

People don't deserve half the things they think they do.

[user5575708]

well nintendo rewarded 3ds early adopters when they dropped the price from $250 to $180 early on.

So why can't microsoft? Maybe reimburse people for the kinect that is now almost completely useless...

[Kingthrash360]

True^^
Thing is ms has made a more significant drop than the 3ds...it dropped what 150$ and a forced kinect + free games? Smh I think it should have launched at 349...that's what it worth...IMO at least
Dropping this much so soon is cool but only for this who's waited....Xbox ones most loyal customers were mostly day1 buyers and if I were one of them I'd feel jipped.

[mikeslemonade]

I still look at it's still the same price since the Kinect is $150 standalone. So MS took out the camera but you are paying the saying price for the console without the camera. So I can look at it as if I payed $350 for the console and the extra $150 was for the camera

While you were waiting for a "price drop" I was able to download free games and play the current gen AAA games. You only live once.. so you can choose to be frugal and wait or take what life has to offer.

[Alsybub]

@Halo2ODST2

If we looked at it on that basis then we would still be playing on the NES and Master System. After all, when the SNES and Genesis came out there were far more games on the previous generation, why upgrade? I cannot even be bothered to answer that.

It's been the same on the ps4 and it's the same every generation.

[Yetter]

wasting? My XB1 is on for 12 hours a day minimum.

[frankiebeans]

the price of a ps3 was justified buy the new tech it offered yes high but rightfully so. but xbox had no new tech just a camera nobody wanted.

also if you bought it at launch after all the backlash it got you weren't very smart, judging by the history of the console war everyone knew it was going to get a price drop after all the bad press and the mediocre launch (putting it nicely) it didn't take a expert to know that.

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

LOL these articles are ridiculous. Every product eventually gets a price cut. This black friday, the Samsung Galaxy S5 is on sale for $1 at Best Buy. If I bought it last week, it was $200. So should everyone who bought the phone in March/April now be asking Samsung for $199 credit on their phone bill? I bought the X1 Day One and it doesn't bother me one bit that the system is now $350. Eventually the PS4 will have a price cut too. I voluntarily purchased the system.

@frankie
Did you ever think people LIKED the original plans of the X1? You say X1 owners weren't smart to buy the X1 day one, yet the original PS3 warranted it's ridiculous price tag hahaha, wow, YOU'RE "not very smart."

[TheBrit]

the XB1 plays blue ray movies, xbox 360 didnt a year ago :)

[frankiebeans]

@PONTIAC08G8GT The new tech in the ps3 made it expensive and made it justifiable, a bluray player alone was 1k at the time so as high as the price was my point still stands. at the time the ps3 graphics were 2nd to none with everything they were promising times are different now and the jump to ps4/xbone isnt as amazing as the jump from ps2 to ps3. computers are a whole different anaimal now then they were last gen and thats a fact so take your fanboy nonsense someplace else

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

@frankie

Do you know what a fanboy is? Name one thing in my statement that was fanboyish. Oh that's right, nothing. Come on, don't try to justify the price tag because of your love for Sony. I bought a Sony blu-ray player shortly after the PS3 launched and paid $299. You're defending the PS3 price tag because it had a blu-ray player, but didn't every Sony fan cry about how the X1 wasn't geared towards gamers because it wanted to be a media device? Didn't the PS3 want to do the same, internet and movies?

You speak about non-sense, I doubt you even read what you originally posted. Do you know how much of a MS hater you sound?

"but xbox had no new tech just a camera nobody wanted."

"also if you bought it at launch after all the backlash it got you weren't very smart"

"the mediocre launch (putting it nicely) it didn't take a expert to know that."

I guess being the 2nd best console ever launched is mediocre. You basically call anyone who bought an X1 early not smart. And I guess you speak for everyone that the X1 has no new tech just a camera no one wants. Please explain the "new tech" that the PS4 brings to the table? Both systems brought more powerful hardware, that's about it.

Another Sony fanboy blinded by the greatness.

[frankiebeans]

ummm no sorry bud keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel like a better man but the facts are out all you need to do is google it everything I say is true i haven't made not 1 false claim all the evidence to back me up on the internet. you just make yourself look like you don't know anything every other thing you type. its obvious youre a xbox fan me on the other hand i dont give a flying fuck because xbox and ps4 are shit to me right now because I will be playing ssb till something good is out on either system. also you and i both know you didnt buy no god damn bluray player you just want to have somthing to add to your argument.

[Dee_91]

i'm like %99.999 sure earlier adopters knew prices would drop eventually... sooo how are they getting shafted ?

[frostypants]

@Halo2ODST2: "there should be a benifit to spending £400 for a new console while already having a x360, a year ago, what was the benifit to owning a x1 over the 360 ?"

If you felt this way then WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BUY IT?

[StrawberryDiesel420]

Such a well said comment, how do you only have one bubble? +Bubble Well Said, couldn't have used a better analogy myself.

[user5575708]

some trolls have a lot of wisdom however their wisdom is often wasted because they're busy trolling...

[KiwiViper85]

People who prefer Xbox aren't allowed bubbles.

[solar]

ha! speaking of Flat Screen TV's, i bought my 42" a few months before the whole price gouging fiasco. paid $2000 and then they were cheap as hell. Samsung owes me some monies :P

[PainandGain3102]

jesus you spent 2000 for a 42 inch? what you buy an oled 4k with 3d and 240 hz?

[Dee_91]

$2000 for a 42'? it better be able to cook breakfast and do laundry.Thats insane, even if it came with all the nic nacs. Payed 900 for my 50' with just about everything including 3 year warranty

[solar]

this was in 2007.

[Angeljuice]

"For every product pl buy as early adopters the manufacturer should provide compensation?"

If the consumer is lied to about the product requiring a peripheral (which adds to the cost), then when sales aren't good the manufacturers change their minds and admit that said peripheral isn't required at all, yes they deserve compensation.

[antz1104]

It was never a lie. Kinect came bundled, u always had the option to NOT use it but most did because it was the only bundle and enabled voice recognition.

Systems, bundles, technology will always be cheaper if you wait. The company doesn't owe you anything if you decide to be the first kid on your block with it.

[rainslacker]

If they didn't want to pay the extra $100 for Kinect, they could have not brought the system. That is how consumerism works. They got what MS said would be in the box for the price, MS doesn't really owe them anything anymore than Sony owes its day one adopters of the PS4. Nintendo didn't even owe early adopters of the 3DS anything either after the price drop, but it was ncie that they compensated what is most likely their most loyal fan base. It's good PR, and people like getting stuff for free.

[Copenhagen]

EXACTLY....The xbox defense force will disagree even though it's normal reasoning to think this way. Microsoft absolutely lied even the diehards while not admitting it know it. The Kinect was nothing and is nothing more than an advertising tool for MS to data mine with and the fact it's been out across two generations now and to this day has no importance in gaming outside of dancing games and was given up on by MS themselves when the sales dictated the cost was too high. They told everyone it's "necessary" and we can't just turn a "switch" off to disable it and separate it from the xbox. Yeah what a load of BS that was yet he fanboys and media gave them a pass on it. They should be held accountable for lying to the masses in an attempt to sell boxes to people who took their word when they said it wasn't a gimmick but something necessary for the system to function so yeah they do owe early adopters something for being lied to and supporting them when the xbox was toxic to own.

[user5575708]

@antz1104

there was a period of time where the kinect needed to be plugged into the system or the console wouldn't work.

then after the backlash they changed it.

but their original intention/vision was for everyone to use kinect

great example of bad marketing...they assumed they knew what the consumer wanted

[FromTheAshes]

The PS3 was the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market in 2006 like the PS2 was the cheapest DVD player on the market in 2000...There is a reason why the PS3 was $600 to begin with.

You shouldn't use it as an example compared to Xbox One.

Wow a disagree over facts...

http://www.cnet.com/news/al...

http://edition.cnn.com/2000...

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

So the PS3 warranted it's price tag because it had a blu-ray player, yet everyone yells, cries, and wet's themselves because the X1 had a tv tuner and wanted to be your "one" entertainment unit. My-oh-my aren't we being hypocritical. So if the blu-ray player justified the $600 PS3, then the Kinect justified the $500 X1. Everyone complained that Sony put gamers first and is all about games, yet you and the Sony brigade defend the PS3 because of a non-gaming function, a blu-ray player.

Yea, that makes a lot of sense.

[DARK WITNESS]

@ PONTIAC08G8GT

In all fairness, the ps3 caught just as much flack for trying to be bluray player that nobody wanted and at it's original price of $600 it sold horribly...

in fact if I remember right there was such a backlash that in Japan (sonyland) some retailers were refusing to stock it and even before the console actually launched sony had to announce a price drop.

Here we are slagging off the xbox for dropping it's price so soon but it's only because they are responding to market forces and make no mistake, when Sony made the same misguided F"^%T"k up, they got the pressure and had to respond in the same way to those market forces.

There were plenty of ps fans who did a lot of crying and wetting of their panties of the ps3's price, they didn't get away with it scott free.

If you ask me, that is why sony were able to get it so right with the ps4, because they had learned all these lessons through the ps3's launch.

[Death]

Blu-ray players in 2006 were not sold for a loss like consoles which make their losses up with software. Sony Blu-ray players were also very expensive and made up the bulk of first gen players. You could buy a comparable HD-DVD player for half as much and at the time an arguably better player.

[Hereiamhereibe2]

@pontiac The bluray player was not beneficial to gaming? Since when? I bought a 360 over PS3 but i still was astounded by the beauty of the console and its software. Never regretted 360 until i realized just how annoying the player base was, you people literally ruined the console for me whether online in game or on these damned articles. I used to love xbox now i wish they would liquidate.

[FATHASUN]

@ PONTIAC08G8GT

Wait, the XB1 has a TV Tuner?

[garrettbobbyferguson]

I have the 600 dollar 60 gigger Ps3. where's my free stuff?

[GTgamer]

PS3 was at high because of the blu ray player and cell and Sony didn't take that out so not really a good example Ms said the Xbox one and kinect are one making it 500 then MS took out the kinect and sold it for a $150 then has repedeatly drop the Xones in the first year since launch come on that is shaft to early adopters who some didn't want kinect but said hey screw it and bought it since MS they would never "SELL the Xone without Kinect" and MS totally abandoned the kinect right after so early adopters got the shaft big time.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

No, that's pretty accurate. They removed a ton of things that my Ps3 had to make it cheaper, equivalent to how Microsoft removed something that made the xbox one cheaper.

If people didn't want kinect, they didn't have to buy it, the same way if I didn't want the 600 dollar Ps3, I didn't have to buy it.

[Death]

@GT,

Sony removed backwards compatibility, usb ports and memory card ports to make the system cheaper. You couldn't buy these things separately later on if you wanted to, they were simply gone. If you pick up a $349 Kinectless Xbox One today, you can go to the store later and pick up a Kinect for $149. Kinect wasn't "dropped", it was offered stand alone for those that weren't keen on the idea of being "forced" to buy Kinect with the $499 SKU. I do however agree support will be much more limited now that the attach rate is under 100%.

[otherZinc]

@Foehammer,

Excellent post!

Also, my XBOX ONE $499 purchase was money well spent!

The tv functionality with HDMI in is great. Watching a ballgame in snap mode while playing Forza Motorsport 5 was terrific. Now I do the same with other games.

I've been playing Forza Motorsport 5 for a year, I'll bet Drive Club won't last that long.

What does the PS4 have to offer from a year ago with exclusives? Knack! GTFOOH! There's still no good PS4 Exclusives you can play for any length of time. PS4 owners got shafted with that $400 price tag.

[GTgamer]

That went from zero to trolling real quick.

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

I'm not a fan of the PS4, but the X1 didn't exactly warrant a day one purchase either. I bought my X1 on day one but for a while there I was basically just playing Forza and BF. I don't think either system really warranted a purchase until this time of year. I'm not sure the PS4 has even warranted it's $400 price tag yet as there haven't been any "must have/wow" titles except for a remastered PS3 game. I don't think Sunset Overdrive warrants an X1 purchase either, but at least now you can grab Titanfall for $20, Forza Horizon 2, and the Halo collection.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

More like Zero to drooling, bath salt sniffing, dumbass...

[Death]

Buying launch consoles isn't for everyone. The price point/value formula is different for everybody. What is see as a good value isn't necessarily the same as what you see. Driveclub was the game that I seen that made me decide the PS4 was a good value before picking one up. I am very happy with the decision I made. I had no problem picking up an Xbox One at launch, but it's my friends that made the system a good value on day one. Knowing we would be spending time on the new console was all I needed. I picked up another over the weekend for my daughter. We traded in my launch 360 for a $100 credit and grabbed the Assassins Creed bundle for $249. That's a hard deal to pass up.

[hkgamer]

agreed with what you said until the last sentence. previous prices of console launch especially from a different generation should not matter at all.

i am going to play the devils advocate though and explain the difference between a tv and a games console.

tv needs to make money at all times otherwise there is no point in selling the product. games consoles however has been making a loss or almost nothing (at launch) for quite a long time.

i know tv was just an analogy but thought it didnt really explain it properly.

games consoles can do this due to licensing etc... where they let devs/pubs release games and take a cut from that. but i guess you knew that already.

games consoles are normally for the long run which is why they need to show confidence to their customers and keep brand loyalty. limbo for free is kinda lackluster compared to what 3ds did.

[ramiuk1]

i think the problem is thats annoying is The early adopters paid alot of money and now u can get the console for £150 less in UK and u get 5 games with it,compared to zero games at £200 more.

the pricedrops started after 3 months so it has been a bit harsh on folk imo.
its rare for a consoel to be so discounted after such a short time and i think that is the iossue people have.

although with all the issues and lies im suprised anyone even paid the crazy £439 in UK for it.

[jrshankill]

Agreed.

What has Sony gave early adapters?
......

If this is in regards to the price drop and early adapters feeling shafted... that is life. It happens with all electronics eventually. You would have to be extremely hard-up and childish to complain about this. Every game, DVD, HD TV, dvd player, blu-ray player, washing machine.. they all drop in price eventually.

[Xb1ps4]

Wow.... It's amazing on how some ppl just can't be pleased at all no matter what you do.. I will bet anyone that the writer doesn't have or didn't get a xb1 on or close to launch so what gives him the right to write some bs article on early adapters? Damn near everyone that got a xb1 has been happy with and the ones with both ps4 and xb1 prefer the xb1 like I do..

I got my free code for limbo last night as I was playing halo and that just put a smile on my face as it was yet another free game.. Why are a lot of gamers so damn bitter? And feel so damn entitled to everything? Shit is ridiculous already, you have 2 choices you buy the console or you don't we all know what all consoles are fully capable of already so jump in or just stfu already with all these bs articles.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@Foehammer

This is one of the few times you have actually made sense. Anyone who thinks that they deserve a refund on the Xbox One because it's 150 dollars cheaper than when they first bought is a moron.

If this were to happen where would these refunds end?

I bought Infamous Second Son when it was $60 now it's available for less than 30 bucks, should I get a refund?

Seriously, where are all of these idiots with these silly ideas coming from? My guess is that many of these "entitled" gamers huff paint, sniff bath salts and cinnamon then they come up with these stupid ideas.

If I buy a soda for 2 bucks, drink half of it, then go back to the same store and see the same soda for 90 cents a few days later do I deserve a refund?

Many of these " entitled gamers" really need to wake up from what ever dream world they are living in.

I would love to do this to everyone who thinks they deserve something for nothing.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/...

[evilunklebud]

This site's anti-MS tripe makes my head spin.....

Does this apply to people who buy new cars as well?

[VegasDawg]

This just in giving away free stuff is a rip off, don't fall for it. Good lord, how did this get approved?

[bumnut]

I bought the original Xbox at launch, it dropped in price by £100 shortly after. MS gave me 2 games and a controller as compensation.

[u4one]

agreed. i bought both the x1 and the ps4 at launch. I am by definition an early adopter. I do the same thing with smartphones and various other types of electronics. i don't by any means feel shafted because as an early adopter you kind of assume that things will get cheaper or that deals will come along as the technology ages or becomes more mainstream. i don't mind because I am paying to have my experience sooner rather than later. Now if I bought an x1 and the very next day or even next week it dropped price a bit i might care a little more.

[dumahim]

Just another article from someone with a strong sense of entitlement. Not surprising coming from a site called gimmegimmegames

[nowitzki2004]

The PS3 was $600. but the cheapes Blu-Ray player around that time was $1000. so it was a steal at 600 with maybe the best blu ray player out of all of them.

[MazzingerZ]

The PS3 was a Bluray player and a powerful gaming console, a Bluray player-only device by that time costed more than the PS3.

X360 (399 USD) + HD DVD ext unit (199 USD) was 600 as well, difference is that HD DVD lost the battle and PS3 was still playing BR and games after several years while the X360 didn't and if you were luck (no RROD) would still play games.

I think early adopters of X1 got that, be early adopters, it's a pleasure and need for many, besides they got the camera as well, they can sell it and get money back, I don't see the problem.

[ITPython]

Early XB1 adopters went into this gen knowing what MS had planned to do with the XB1, yet they still foolishly bought one. So they shouldn't be surprised when MS repeatedly screws them over. It is their own fault for supporting MS this gen when the anti-gaming and anti-consumer giant should have been kicked to the curb and ostracized from the gaming industry permanently.

It's only going to get worse when MS releases another console in 2016/2017 and completely abandons the XB1.

[raptorjacob]

Everything gets a price cut eventually. The thing that would bother me if i bought the xbox at launch is it didnt even take a year for a $100 price cut.

[Muzikguy]

If people weren't so entitled this wouldn't even be an issue. Companies need to stop catering to the ones that think they deserve anything and everything for next to nothing

[Soc5]

Ditto

[DEEBO]

Yeah 500 was too much but i luck up and got my 1st one 300 on new years eve,then i pick up 2nd one for my kids brithday for 350.
So for 650 i got two xbox one's, a kinect and AC unity/ black flag.
Not to bad.

[4logpc]

Um what? This is the first time I can remember any gaming company specifically calling out early adopters and giving them something free...

So...

[mrbojingles]

You don't remember the 3DS then do you?

[Dudebro90]

That was different. They got shafted with the outrageous price tag. Which was cut.

Microsoft simply offered another sky without Kinect.

Huge difference.

[bumnut]

Original Xbox did too

[-Foxtrot]

But if you buy it day one then it's your own fault

The same would apply for the PS4 or the Nintendo Wii U

These things happen and it's a risk you have to take if you want a new console at launch.

[Nirvana31591]

The PS4 didn't drop $200 in price. Try again

[NuggetsOfGod]

I think u are thinking of ps3?

[antz1104]

No but the PS3 did.

Kettle. Pot. Black.

[Concertoine]

You make a big risk buying a console day 1. You risk hardware problems, game droughts, price drops, etc.

[Nirvana31591]

Not if you buy a ps4

[ShaunCameron]

Nah. They shafted themselves by choosing to buy a console on launch day. Consumer stupidity at its finest.

[Killz4Twinkies]

Obviously you must not have much disposable income. You come across as jealous rather than educated. I am sure that the people that fall into this consumer stupidity you talk about are fully aware that they are paying a premium and will have some growing pains along the first year or so.

[ShaunCameron]

Define educated.

[Killz4Twinkies]

An educated comment would be something along the lines of... It is pretty unfortunate for XB1 owners as they bought the the XB1 on launch day for the full $499 with the belief that Kinect was something that MS was 100% behind but then kinda got shafted when MS abandoned Kinect and slashed prices to get back in the console race, i would be pretty upset if i was a day one buyer (not saying i agree with this comment but something along these lines wouldnt make you look like such a troll).

Me personally i am happy with both my ps4 and xb1 and think it is awesome that they are in such a heated price war that will allow more and more people to join both gaming communities but that is just me a stupid consumer

[one2thr]

If no one buys at launch, then the media and people will call the product a failure and it may cause the company to discontinue making the product.

Got mine at midnight, and dont regret standing for 4hrs to get my hands on a straggler, seeing that I didnt pre order it.

[Blackleg-sanji]

On one hand i agree u take the risk as an early adopter...but on the other hand who in the hell expected them to drop the price so much and add free games so damn early i would feel kind of upset

[StrawberryDiesel420]

It's a valid point....Again, no one would have predicted this though.

[kneon]

All the pre-launch evidence pointed to the PS4 trouncing the XB1 in sales, so dropping kinect and cutting price/making bundles was to be expected.

In fact if you were to go back to N4G comments from last year you would find plenty of people saying they would wait for the kinectless sku/price drop when Microsoft were still saying it would never happen.

@StrawberryDiesel420
Many people predicted it, but some people refused to believe it could happen.

[Blackleg-sanji]

I mean hell i predicted it but not this much and so soon its crazy although im glad cuz i still dnt have one yet

[rainslacker]

There was a lot of talk before and right after launch that MS would likely cut out the Kinect sooner rather than later due to the sales paling in comparison to the PS4, and in some cases having really bad months. I personally thought the Kinectless bundle would happen this holiday, but didn't expect it to happen as soon as it did.

I never expected a price drop(kinect included or not) within a year, but thought we'd see some good bundles this holiday. It never once thought there be an official price drop as well as a Kinectless SKU as well as some great bundles by the holiday season(all inclusive to the brand that is)..that's pretty unprecedented.

[No_Limit]

I got a $150 Kinect camera that I use everyday with my purchase so I don't feel shafted at all. Lol, love how these anti-MS articles keep popping up by the hours as we are getting close to the holidays. Smh

[Blackleg-sanji]

That thing costs 150.00?? Geez thats alot i didn't kno it was so much. And idk about u but these articles have been popping up for both xbox one nd ps4 since the holidays started

[No_Limit]

the retail stand alone Kinect is retail for $150.

But I agreed, it is the season of "my console is better than yours" at this time of year. LOL

[S2Killinit]

well, i would't call it shafted, but they are definitely the losers if they wanted to sell their console back anytime soon, otherwise, they should be happy other people will get to own their console for less money. Besides, they need a bigger instal base if their investment is to pay of in more games. so, shafted? not really.

[jcole97]

So what does this mean for ps4 owners who aren't even getting anything? not trying to down play people who got a ps4 because I have one aswell. getting something free is not being shafted.. it was our choice to buy the console early so why does Microsoft have to owe us? I'm grateful to get something free for choosing to get it early

[AutoCad]

If you bought the system at launch,you obviously wanted the system..so, why would an early adopter feel shafted?

[antz1104]

You just summed up the best argument in this thread, well said.

[ecco0201]

I'm an early adopter because I wanted to play the system right away, them throwing me a free game a year later is a bonus. Anyone who ever buys a game or a system realize that a short time later the games and system go down in price. The longer you wait the better deal you'll get. I honestly don't understand where this entitlement comes from and that goes for both sides complaining about the free games for PS+ and GWG

[WeAreLegion]

What? They don't owe anyone anything.

[ScorpiusX]

Very happy with my day one Xbox one , do it over again if needed.

[Crazay]

Got my copy of Limbo installed and ready to play. I appreciate getting free stuff. Thanks MS.

It never ceases to amaze me just how fickle the gaming community can be. Getting free stuff is always awesome. WHy bitch about it?

[mochachino]

Yeah it would kinda suck paying $500 for it less than a year ago only to have Kinect support completely dropped and knowing you could have had it for $350 with a new AAA release (essentially making it 289.99). This may have been the fastest and most significant console price drop in recent history.

[NeoGamer232]

I don't think it sucks at all... X1 has a lot of good quality and games that haveunique features we can only get in this generation, and every console should be rated on the quality (not quantity) of games.

I paid $499 for my X1 and it has been used almost everyday I have gamed since it launched, whereas my PS4 is a dust collector. I'm not saying that PS4 is a bad console, I have just played most of the PS4 indie library on my PC already.

I can't wait for Bloodbourne so my PS4 gets some use, but it kind of stinks that next June-ish the PS4 will probably shed $50-100 on its price and I have yet to play a game on the console that really makes me feel that I spent a good $400... Hopefully Bloodbourne will make me feel the console was worth it...

[rainslacker]

I think it sucks, but early adopters got what they paid for. I can see people being upset that MS dropped the required Kinect because it makes it rather useless outside of UI functionality so it devalues the actual product they brought, but they were willing to pay the day one price, which means they found value in it then.

What you're speaking of is buyers remorse for not waiting it out, and maybe a bit of annoyance that their console depreciated so quickly, but neither of those things entitles anyone to any kind of compensation from the manufacturer.

[BLAKHOODe]

Being the owner of both the PS4 and Xbox One, I appreciate Microsoft's effort. As little as their offerings were, they were still way more than Sony's. I use my Xbox One and PS4 every day and Microsoft has done a phenomenal job in turning things around for the Xbox One. In the meantime, my fears of Sony letting success goto it's head, seem to be coming true. These next few years are going to be interesting.

[xDHAV0K24x]

lame. we all knew this. its the risk we take. no regrets!

[Bossmon]

Who cares, people complain about everything, that's the price you pay for get its first, I bought my x1 for 499 but do you see crying to microsoft???,NO... The 360 came out at 499 also and people didn't conplain...stop being a bunch of b#@%hes....don't buy a console within the first 8months of release next time

[Flames76]

WTF are you talking about you idiot?I bought a day one X1 and don't feel shafted at all.I have been playing it and enjoying all the great games since novemeber 2013.I just picked up my second X1 the Sunset Overdrive white Xbox bundle.In case you dont know this thats the price you pay for new electronics to get it first.You are a stupid person and should be flipping burgers instead of writing this garbage.

[SliceOfTruth888]

Paid 499.99 and right now to get a system with Kinect it would cost me 499.99. Some people enjoy kinects features

[Tedakin]

Stop making sense. That's what's annoying to me. They didn't drop the price. They removed a massive feature and put out a new SKU. A price drop would mean the Kinect bundle is now 399. It's not. It's still 499. And I use the voice stuff daily, personally.

[Artemidorus]

I don't feel shafted. You soon learn it's empty and lacks games but you enjoy it as much as you can.

[Gamer777]

This article is coming from gimmegimmegames lol

[DarXyde]

Early adopters know the deal. They assume the risks that come with unproven technology (defects, prices, bugs, etc.).

[sungam3d]

Literally all early adopters get shafted one way or the other.

That's the price you pay for buying brand new untested equipment.

I would never buy a brand new graphics card day one.
It's impossible to tell how well it will perform and they are horrendously over priced. I'll wait 6 months to a year, see how reviews of it are, then buy it at half price.

[level 360]

Just goes to show good thing comes to those who wait..

..but not too long, especially not at the near-end cycle.

Mostly it's the **excitement that firstly drives every single gamer ( with cash or a loan ) to get this new batch of consoles. It's that entitlement called - " bragging rights ".

Once it dies down, reality sinks in.

When your expectations are high and the end result wasn't what you expected it can be ok to some but also brutal to others.

[TheOnlyMastrx]

From launch the cost is only down $50, and thats supposedly only for the holiday season (until the beginning of January). That is for the kinect bundle, thats what they launched with. Those that waited could get the console for $100 off without kinect with an additional $50 off for this holiday season. A year later prices are the same minus the $50 off for holidays.

[Ps4andxb1]

Looks like N4G quality control is on lunch break again.

Rediculous article.

[Shonuff]

For the jackass who came up with this headline, you need to find another job. Stop hating on consoles so much, or this case Xbox.
For all you jackasses whose fighting over which console the best, go play and be happy, jackasses.

[lawgone]

I just play and I'm a happy jackass :)

[Angerfist]

All this Entitlement began with PS+ , it's like Feminism, I mean that modern kind where women basically have all the privileges already and still want more.
Same here. You had the console and could play all the games for a year.
why does someone need compensation for that???

[tman7302]

Another BS article that talks nothing but BS, only to create BS opinion that's concluded with BS responses, just to exposes the real BSers on here.

[Svinya]

Well said.

[Dinkis]

As an early adopter I wasn't expecting anything anyways so...thanks. I'll play it again :-)

[DialgaMarine]

Not really, seeing as there were so few early adopters (buyers before new kinectless SKU). Had there been more, M$ wouldn't even be making these moves right now.

[DJStotty]

what a nonsense article. I am a day one owner so why am i getting shafted exactly?? Here in the Uk the xbox one with kinect has only dropped in price by around £40. At launch i got fifa 14 for free and i have recently got limbo. And Limbo is out now if anyone was wondering.

I dont feel shafted at all by microsoft. I knew the price of the console at launch, and i paid it. Microsoft dont need to give me anything but at least they are giving early adopters something.

[Novistador]

When you buy a console during the first year you are taking a financial risk. Did I know the price would eventually drop? Yes. Do I want a refund? No. Why? Because I wanted to have it day 1. I paid more because I wanted to play it first. So for the past year Ive been enjoying games on this console. Seems worth it to me.

[DeadManMMX]

I've never once felt shafted by my choice to buy both systems at launch. As an early adopter that has any memory of history you should know what your in for. For the Xbox one in particular I love the kinect literally love it and I feel all the people who may never even get to try the device for themselves are getting shafted. I've had pretty good years with both consoles and anything they give us is icing in the cake.

[fullmetal297]

The fact the N4G is really trying to make Microsoft look bad with a price cut look bad is appalling.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

all the kids saying early adopters shouldnt get anything are the ones who didnt get it early so they dont want us to have anything who got it early

[MCTJim]

Wow, anyone who is an early adopter knew exactly what they were buying. No one forced anyone to buy the console. Some of the posts here are just plain silly. I guess the car you bought that was a new model, you should be compensated because they added a feature. I guess this article did exactly what it was intended to do...get clicks.

[XboxSeriesBest]

I'm sure if all the early adopters who believed in the Xbox one's pipe dream of cloud servers and superior online services would have foreseen a $150 price drop in less than a year of the console being released then I'm sure we wouldn't see much of these "early adopters". These valued customers paid half a grand for lackluster launch titles, a weaker console with bad press and a camera that has become completely irrelevant forced upon them and you say they don't deserve anything for being loyal to someone who generally screwed them over in the long run. I think the early adopters do deserve a game just so they feel less like tool bags for buying into M$'s BS. Almost like a pity-gift.

[antz1104]

Ugh, what a load of entitlement. Every single person knew what they got into when they bought it day one. Anyone that can drop $500 should A) do some research and know what they're getting and B) be damn sure they want it.

If you did buy it and you're bitter it's your own fault. If you didn't buy one maybe you should before you weigh in so harshly.

[Svinya]

Don't bother with him. Look at his name. He's trying to create controversy.

[XboxSeriesBest]

I know the truth hurts doesn't it but i tried to warn the early adopters not to buy in to that garbage. Thank god Phil Spencer decided to actually gain some common sense and unfudge some of the arrogant mess that was the Xbox bum. Now it's close to a price that it's actually worth like $350. Although it should be $300 with a game just so more Early adopters feel the need to cry to M$ that they deserve more free games xD

[rigo8582]

I don't see what the big deal is. This goes with the territory when you're an early adopter. If you don't like it, don't be an early adopter. This happens with all types of products not just consoles.

[MookaTek]

Okay, I bought a great system, intentionally, for $500.00 because it had games I wanted to play on it. It has arguably the best first-year game library of any system since the N64. It has many, many great features outside of gaming that I didn't even expect it to have because I thought I didn't care and I didn't research these features.

And then Microsoft has the audacity to reward me for buying into this shit? Assholes even gave me a free game.

If this is getting shafted, then by golly, getting shafted is my new hobby.

[susanto1228]

These anti Xbox articles are getting tiring
I waited for a price drop that I knew would happened
and saved lots of money people will always purchase
items with a higher price at first everything that's
the price you pay for being an early adopter most
gamers accept that too bad so sad

[Macdaddy71]

I think the writer is full of crap, I paid the $500 on day one, n don't regret a dime of it.... It dumb not to think anything you buy will at some time will drop in price....

[SilentGuard]

Obviously Kinect inclusion didn't bother the early adapters all that much since they still bought the system. If they didn't want/like Kinect than they shouldn't have bought the system knowing thats part of what they were buying. No sympathy here.

[dennett316]

This attitude is dumb. People bought the product on launch because they wanted it - either for what was available on the day, or potential games to come like Halo 5. Whining because you're not getting enough free stuff you were never promised or never expected is a disgusting amount of entitlement.

I'm no MS fan, but what they've done in terms of freebies and in terms of making their console more appealing by slashing prices is great for old and new customers alike. Stop moaning for goodness sake.

[one2OMG]

My Xbox One keeps the door open nicely. While my Kinect 2.0 looks all shiny and new in it wrapper - never used.

[UnHoly_One]

Whine whine whine...

Nothing is ever good enough for some people.

[kingvendrick]

Lol at the salty xbots, shafted to hell and back but they'd never admit it. Xbone has had pice drops, kiect drops and free games given away all in less than a year but thats ok cos its M$. They could start giving em away and that would still be ok cos its M$.Guess they must've got some lube at launch in preparation for the shafting they were gonna get. But thats ok cos its M$.

Loooooool

[Svinya]

Go away.

[kingvendrick]

Only when the xbone goes away.

[Killzoner99]

Yup. If I bought an Xbone day one I would be furious right now. This is how Microsoft treats their customers.

[lawgone]

Uhhhh, why. I bought one on day one. I also got a PS4 a few weeks after it came out. Knowing they were brand new I knew I'd be paying a higher price than if I waited 8 months. In exchange for that higher price, I was able to play it while those that were waiting could not. Why would either of them owe me anything?

[TheRacingX]

Microsoft doesnt owe anybody anything, If they want to give away a game or two or 20 like Nintendo, thats their PR move to the hardcore fans, showing they care and thanks for being there first. What they should be doing is trying to make Kinect viable and needed to enhance the gaming experience and make those people with the cheaper version say " aww I wish I paid the extra $$ for the whole thing because game x would be so much more cooler.... " but thats the trick now isnt it...

[lawgone]

So you're tellling me things are more expensive when they're brand new and then they come down in price??! This is brand new information to me!

[MadLad]

This is idiotic.

[hankmoody]

Whoever wrote this article should not be allowed to write about games, let alone anything. I hate that I appreciate the vast wealth of gaming news that N4G gathers yet the overabundance of trolls makes me want to stay far away from the site. This site has way too much negative energy floating around it.

[pyramidshead]

lol I love the fact that people are being gifted cosmetic trash for games they don't even own.

Xbox team must be clueless at this point.

[InTheZoneAC]

ummm,.....waaahhhhh!!!!???

[dwoo713]

I don't feel "shafted" whatsoever. Systems typically have price drops a year or so after release and so this was no surprise to me. Also, the Kinect provides very useful voice controls which I use on a daily bases. I think Microsoft has been doing their best to provide their customers with ample perks in the form of Games With Gold sales & free games.

[quenomamen]

How they getting screwed ? Everybody knew the price and specs before it went on sale.

[ReturnToSanity]

They down owe us anything. We made the choice to buy it early. There was no hinted compensation when we made our purchase. This is such a stupid article and obviously a low blow from PS4 biased editors. Because please don't get me started on Drive Club and other things Sony has promised.

[ricochetmg]

Yep

[big_dom_part_2]

Angry gamers angry at getting shafted after buying a brand new system in it's early days shocker!

Wow! This is news worthy on this site? What a joke. I can't think of a single console ever released where the price hasn't either been cut, or better and improved systems and bundles released not far off it's release.

[averagejoe26]

The point people are missing here is the Xbox community WAS shafted.

Phil Spencer - "Xbox One will not work without Kinect"

Everyone spends $600 on Xbox One with Kinect

Phil Spencer - "Nvm, Xbox One works just fine without Kinect" (but we already have your money).

Normally, I do agree that gamers feel too entitled and complain about free stuff. But this time around, the Xbox community WAS shafted 100%.

[lfc_4eva]

How about PS4 early adopters getting shafted, due to a severe lack of quality titles?

Ever considered that one?

[gnothe1]

if that's the case....I bought the sony XBR 850A 4k tv for 3000 in MARCH an paid 700 for the 4k media player...here in November that same tv is about 1800 an the media player is about 250....does sony owe me anything?...NOPE!!..the sad part is the new 4k TV's support PS now(mine don't) an the new 4k media player(looks like the ps4) plays a lot more media files...so yes I GOT SHAFTED but that's the price I pay for being an early adaptor....just like the money I lost on the HD DVD player an movies...I cant give that shit away....people aways feel entitled to something..an its quite sad...

[Trekster_Gamer]

I purchased my XB1 day one. I knew what I was getting into.

I have not regretted a single moment.

The best and most varied and highest rated games so far. Everything else the XB1 excels at is but using on the cake.

[Sneakybudda]

Its the best thing i have bought in a long while. ill still pay £500 for it.