Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s Lag is Turning Players Off the Game

CraveOnline: "I’ve now put a fair few hours into the multiplayer component of Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare since its official release yesterday, and I’ve found myself having more fun with it than any CoD game in recent memory. However, it does suffer with some (at times) crippling lag issues due to Activision’s refusal to give the game dedicated servers, and many are finding this lag so unbearable that it is making the game nigh-on unplayable."

[qwerty676]

idk about the ps4 version

but couldn't Activision have used Microsoft azure servers?

[thrust]

I have noticed the lag only happens when someone with a poor internet connection comes in to the game it seems to effect all the players a lot.

When normal just that person who has a bad internet is laggy all the players become laggy.

[theshonen8899]

Microsoft's servers are required for all Xbox Live games. Hence the original justification for an Xbox Live subscription.

[donthate]

theshonen:

That is not true. The servers are offered to devs at a reduced cost, but larger devs like Activision, EA, Ubisoft and so on often prefer to use their own servers.

However, the devs servers are still integrated within Xbox Live. It is not like it is decoupled.

That is why you have issues on the alpha of Evolve where you have same developer, same game and same servers, but different network between PSN and XBL, yet XBL had no issues and PSN did.

That said, CoD:AW doesn't even have dedicated servers. They use servers primarily for matchmaking, and then it is P2P all the way.

That is why is I skipped CoD for the first time since MW1. Bought every iteration day-1 (or pre-ordered), but this one I skipped. Playing Titanfall on rock solid dedicated servers with Azure have completely spoiled me.

I can't go back so instead I am waiting for Halo:MCC which is also powered by Azure.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

@donthate "The servers are offered to devs at a reduced cost, but larger devs like Activision, EA, Ubisoft and so on often prefer to use their own servers."
Links please thanks.

[LoydX-mas]

@Xabi,

http://videogamesandnews.co...

[Alsybub]

@XabiDaChosenOne & @theshonen8899

It's true, not all publishers use Microsoft's servers. The intention was that they would, and it was a requirement, but EA started removing their online components from games at the beginning of the 360's life, out of protest. Microsoft was forced to bow to the pressure and EA has used it's own servers ever since. It's one of the reasons why you always know that a big EA game released on Xbox is almost guaranteed to have server issues at the beginning. If they went through LIVE then it probably wouldn't be so bad.

I don't know about other publishers though. I thought EA was the exception to the rule and I'm not saying it's every game that EA releases. After all, Titanfall used Azure but then I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean Titanfall used LIVE for matchmaking.

[Kidmyst]

On PC I had it time out joining a session once last night. The a little lag at the beginning of one but then saw a player disconnected and it was fine. I don't get why they have gamers host games but don't allow dedicated servers like clans used to be able to run their own. I miss the days of custom servers, like rifles only.

[Sonital]

Thou shalt not speak of the cloud!

[DARK WITNESS]

COD has had lag issues pretty much since mw2.

Lag compensation to be more exact.

The big problem has always been that;

A. The dev's refuse to accept there actually is an issue.

B. It seems to affect players so randomly and the experiences seem to be so contrasting that it's to nail down. example some players it affects by more or less giving them God mode, while others players find it impossible to kill anybody because it seems like everyone is a few seconds ahead of them. For some players this seems to vary from game to game while for other players it is either one or the other constantly.

I know some people who love the original black ops and say they never had a problem with it. I found that game unplayable.

MW3 was even worse.

The best example I can give though was my experience with BLOPS2.

When the game launched I refused to buy it because of my experience with the last few Cod games and lag.

My friends said I should get it and that it felt and played the closes to Cod4 in terms of connection. I Caved in and to my surprise I actually had no issues with it.

What was funny was a lot of my US friends refused to play it because they said the lag was sooo bad, it felt like they were moving soooo slow and everyone else was moving soooooo fast like they were a few seconds behind everyone.... Funny thing that, I could have sworn that is what I was going through with BLOPS and MW3 and everyone thought I was making it up!

Well a few weeks into the game, second week of Dec to be exact I think, and BOOM! the first update lands. OMG THE GAME JUST WENT FROM BEING PERFECT TO BEING TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE!!!! WTF, WTF, NERD RAGE, RAGE QUITE WTF!!!

The BLOPS2 forums lit up like a xmas tree. One half of the community now saying they could play the game now and it was working fine. The other half of the community saying they could not play at all, it was horrible.

All of a sudden we were being told it was our connection that was the issue. a lot of us could not understand that because it had been working fine and our connections had not changed at all.

A few of us had pointed out we thought it was a network code issue but again half the community said it was working fine and we were just lacking skill etc. Then that video game out showing that even on a LAN connection there was clearly visible lag issues.... on LAN!

The issue will not be fixed with Dedicated servers. look at BF4 and the issues that had and that was on Ded servers. COD has lag issues on LAN, that says it all. If you actually watch some of the videos when they are doing their tournaments etc you can actually see bullet lag, dying after running round a corner or behind over and all that sort of crap, and that is suppose to be on Lan.

now the next cod is here and it's the same issue all over again. I have not bought the new Cod because of the issues above.

Even if you told me the connection is fine and working, until the first few patches, hotfixes come out it could all change.

If you have really bad lag right now, it could improve with a few updates.

If you have no issues with lag right now, that could also change with updates later on.

For now, I am just going to watch and see what happens. some of my clan have already said it's good but it's got all the same bullshit issues with connection that I have hated about cod since forever.

[Palitera]

It is much worse than MW2. Since the TTK is again ridiculously low, it is felt all the time.

I didnt even know this issue was pushing off more people, but i can say for myself: my copy was already resold.

Add to it:
- It's the most camp friendly game I have ever played. I have never seen so many little spots designed specifically for camping in any game. (But the maps flow better than the latest games, at least. 3 lanes, clashing points, some powerful positions...).
- the perks are inoffensive.
- and unbalanced. There's no reason not to put cold blooded on tier 1.
- the kill streaks have no ooomph at all.
- talking about ooomph, the guns... It's a joke that they put a paintball effects options on the game, because that's exactly what the guns feel like.
- verticality, but not so much. I think I have received an "out of bounds" message in every single game I've played...
- finally, the public. I have forgotten how annoying these kids are. The nail in the coffin.
I'd give the MP 3/10. It's very bad IMO.

I liked CoD even until MW3, but after this their games are pure garbage imo. I dont know why I keep trying them every year... Well, at least I can say I have an opinion of my own.

[Ricegum]

I have an opinion of my own and I love the game. Far from garbage, bit over dramatic don't you think? This is definitely a step in the right direction, the most fun I've had since Modern Warfare 1&2. But yeah, everyone is entitled to their opinion :)

Oh and on topic, I've only had a problem with lag about 3 times and I was playing it all day yesterday, so it's a non-issue for me at the moment.

[Palitera]

No drama. I really think this is a very bad MP game. Haven't even touched SP before reselling and the survival mode... Seriously, no ranking up, no progression kept, nothing? There's a reason why most people prefer roguelites to roguelikes...

Well, my bubbles are gone. Have fun with the game. I kind of envy you guys that enjoy it.

[BX81]

It uses p2p? I noticed when someone backs out it host migrates. Other than the lag I love it.

[k3rn3ll]

COD has always done that has it not? I've played everything since MW and I don't remember a game that didn't migrate.

[Meltic]

Im in europé and the lag is killing me. Im playing on a high end PC.

[CervantesPR1]

they wont use the azure servers because they are not free, there is some sort of catch to it.

[VegasDawg]

Your wrong quit making up stuff. Ea has their own servers and demanded MS let them use it same as Ubisoft.

[Patrick_pk44]

I've played there hours of COD MP on PS4 and haven't experienced lag.

[punishing1]

I know our experiences are all individual, but I can tell you I've suffered it pretty regularly on PS4 in the short time I've played. Had at least two application freezes playing MP too, where I had to close it altogether. MY connection shows that it's solid, but I can see other players with a 1 bar connection. They must be the culprit.

[3-4-5]

XB1 since midnight release, only one game lagged so far and that was for about 4-5 seconds.

* People are overexagerating the lag in this game.

Some of those people are just not good, so they blame the lag. Don't believe me ? Ever watch a "good" or "pro" player play and do bad ?

They will blame ANYTHING except themselves.

Lots of these players think they are pro, so most of the comments I've seen have been about them not being able to adapt to the game, and so the complain about it.

* I have a good connection but I know others have much better, and if I'm having 99.99% of my games be fine, I'd imagine about 90% of you are as well.

[BeatYoAzz89]

The lag issues are mainly on PS3 and 360 and no they are not over exaggerated. I have been playing since Day Zero midnight and I have yet to see a match countdown timer by the time I spawn in most players are already in and ready can't tell u how many times I've joined then get immediately killed by an enemy coming around the corner. But it doesnt stop there lots of getting killed around corners (bullet wise), moments of freezing in gun fights, sometimes I kill people with 5 bullets others take a whole clip and fly away to turn around put 3 bullets in me and i die, not able to spawn right away after death even when its showing push square to respawn, and every single game all the players ping will go from red to 2 bars to red to 3 bars back to red and will do it all game long. I have open NAT and fast internet doesnt make a difference. Also have 2.00+ k/d in cod franchise since MW1 so I know how to play the game problem isn't on our end.

[Godz Kastro]

Dude, i was just saying that yesterday as i played. I can not believe they are still using peer to peer.

[ramiuk1]

not had any lag issues on ps4,there was 1 guy with a bad ping that was skipping about but only once and i been smashing it for last 2 days .
im in uk.

[VealParmHero]

It's a shame they didn't use Azure or at least some form of ded servers. I honestly had no idea, and I've been following this game for months now. I guess I just assumed that next-gen meant dedicated servers for all the big mp-focused games. Even ghosts had them. I think the lack of them is inexcusable. I have been experiencing some pretty inconsistent connection so far. It's not the random times where you get mad or just blame it on lag...it is very obvious lag where you simply cannot be quick or accurate enough to overcome it. Then, I'll get back on, and everything is fine.

I'll tell ya this, other online games have been working great for both my ps4 and x1. Titanfall namely, has almost no lag thanks to the azure servers. Biggest title around relies on P2P though?

I have my gripes with this game, but overall it's actually really fun and a nice change of pace...but the f***ing lag!

[XanderZane]

Microsoft offered dedicated server for FREE I thought. They have over 300K of them. It's stupid that devs don't want to use them. 2K Sports also uses their own crappy servers, which is why their online service is so screwed up. They should have just used Microsofts dedicated servers. I'm not having any issues with Horizon 2 or Sunset Overdrive. These devs are just stupid.

[otherZinc]

@XanderZane,

I agree completely! This is where M$ outclassed its competition.

There are no problems with Forza Motorsport 5, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, and I'm sure there'll be no problem with Halo Master Chief Collection!

Devs need to use M$s resources when making an online game on an XBOX Console. If Sony has crap servers, tough, Drive Club still doesn't work.

[r1sh12]

lag compensation has been part of COD since Black Ops.. Why are people discovering it now and complaining about it?

[XanderZane]

Probably because gamers were hoping that Activision would wise up and get the proper dedicate server for their most popular game. Activision is making serious millions off of the CoD franchise and they can't afford proper dedicated servers for this game? It's ridiculous. This should have been taken care of back when MW3 was released.

[bennissimo]

No lag whatsoever over my XBL connection. After ~5 hours of on/off play, lag would have already presented itself were it an XBL issue.

[r1sh12]

dude.. its not xbox live or playstation network. You dont use their servers.
Its P2P - I.e the same way torrents work.
1 person becomes the 'server' and distributes the data to all other players.

thats why players get host

[IIZANGETSUII]

ps4 version = tons of lag too

[xtremeimport]

It still doesn't have dedicated servers?!
hahahaha

[The Dude]

I own both versions the PS4 and Xbox1. I love the mechanics of the game. But there are too many lobbies on both platforms where the lag plays such a big factor into which team wins, like bullets not registering etc. I'm to the point I'm starting to feel like I'm done with the COD series all together.

[boneso82]

"I'm to the point I'm starting to feel like I'm done with the COD series all together."

Ghosts didn't make you feel like that already?

[Kingoftherodeo]

they could but then you might end up with a version of the game with a more stable network than the other. so to be fair we all get to run on potato

[DLConspiracy]

It seems they went the parity route and decided to NOT do as many dedicated servers as ghosts did. Which is odd to me. Not sure why they chose more peer 2 peer methods than they did with ghosts. I figured it was a sure bet they would have. Seems they toned it back for some reason and unfortunately it has a few laggy problems. I sure hope they change their minds and actually take advantage of some of the azure servers. Which if its because of parity, I think that's just as bad as the resolution parity in my book. I choose ms and Xbox for their online servers.

Its significantly laggier then ghosts EVER was on Xbox one... Give us the servers Activision. Let ms give you some free servers.

[Simmo3D]

Xbox users could use Dedicated Azure servers but nooooo. Activision sucks.

[Volkama]

Activision/MS relationship may have soured a little, because Ghosts was promised to use dedicated servers on the Xbox One with a big song and dance but this release it seems to be completely off the table.

The devs have said there will be dedicated servers, but they refuse to specify platforms or details and there clearly aren't any servers right now.

[VealParmHero]

at Volkama, I think Ghosts may have started without servers on the last-gen versions and then eventually they implemented them to some degree. Could we maybe see them put the game on servers over time?

[Utalkin2me]

And Sony users could use dedicated servers as well.

[Volkama]

If Activision set them up, yes. Which they should for a game as big as COD.

[MasterCornholio]

Well that's true. Its not like dedicated servers are an exclusive feature to Microsoft or anything.

[Volkama]

Servers aren't an exclusive feature, but Microsoft make it easy and affordable to host them. There isn't really a good excuse not to use what is supposed to be a defining feature of the XBox platform.

That's a discussion for smaller games though, it's moot with regards to COD. Activision must have solid datacentres established already for Destiny and WoW. They should be hosting COD servers, even if they're only accessible with some money-grabbing premium scheme.

[GameDev1]

@Volkama

Sony do have their own private dedicated servers, so Activison can use it.

Sony use their on private Openstack servers from Rackspace and even hired Rackspace engineers, it does almost everything azure can do and its runs servers for first party and exclusive games

http://www.playstationlifes...

http://www.thewhir.com/web-...

You and others should really gain knowlegde on servers run by companies, Microsoft just lets theirs made known more while Sony does it behind the scenes as usual

[TankCrossing]

@Gamedev1 Call of Duty is not a Sony first party game.

Besides, if DriveClub is any indication of Sony's server performance then P2P might be the better option anyway.

Take your foot out of your mouth, it's unhygienic.

[GameDev1]

@TankCrossing

I think it was made very clear Driveclub's problem had to do with software code rather than the actual hardware (dedicated servers) that run it

Talk about spilling unhygenic crap from about a topic you seemingly didnt know about eh??

And it doesnt matter if Activision isnt an exclusive, my point is that they can request a use of Sony's Openstack servers

[Palitera]

1. Dedicated servers do not fix bad netcode.
2. Dedicated servers create a whole new group of issues. Actually, for such a popular game, if the matchmaking is made right, lobbies can make ping be much lower if the game connects you with a host actually near you, something that the servers might not be.

It is not a magic perfect solution at all.

[TankCrossing]

That's true Palitera, but with Xbox Live the servers are always relatively local. That's the best thing about it from a player point of view, and the reason "dedicated servers are not new and anyone can use them" doesn't really hold up as a counterpoint.

P2P can still be better for perhaps a 2 player online game in the right circumstances, but otherwise the "power of the cloud" is as good as it's going to get.

[TankCrossing]

And "Gamedev1" DriveClub problems have nothing to do with servers, yet they have felt the need to bring more servers online? Where is the sense in that?

http://www.gamepolitics.com...

DriveClub is not really the topic, but it is fair to say it doesn't provide a glowing endorsement of Sony's hosting regardless of any software problems contributing.

Also, there is no evidence what-so-ever that Sony would be willing to host servers for a 3rd party multiplatform game, and there is no evidence to suggest that it would be a good thing if they did.

There is plenty of evidence that Activision can host their own servers (Destiny), and plenty of evidence Microsoft allow 3rd parties to use Azure.

If you must go on a fanboy rampage you should pick your battles. Stick to safer topics like resolution and sales. Perhaps mention Naughty Dog a few times.

[Ju]

There is really no reason why the server backend for the PS4 can't run on an Azure hosted VM. I mean, they offer compute resources and that works with any platform. Sure, the Azure specific API won't be available on a non windows based OS, but MS doesn't own TCP/IP. And eventually it runs scalable VMs connected over an IP protocol. Technically, both can run the same server version (in fact, this is quite true for most hosted games, those run the same server backend with an instance for PS/Xbox/PC each...and yes...I have worked on those, so I guess I know). Only lobby and matchmaking relies on PSN/XBLive/GameSpy or what ever.

[Dark_king]

"there is no evidence what-so-ever that Sony would be willing to host servers for a 3rd party multiplatform game,"
I remember reading somewhere that Sony would for a fee.

" and there is usevidence to suggest that it would be a good thing if they did"
Now that's just not true in fact they proved that years ago with MAG and PS2 is here now proving it again.Lets not fool are self here. How many MMO's has Sony got out there running great.

[VegasDawg]

Only if they bought time from a 3rd party like AMazon and it's not cheap so it's not likely to happen much this generation. Other companies have it but not Sony, they have a cloud but it only streams games, MS spent almost 10 billion on the cloud just last year alone,no way on earth could SOny afford that.

[Ju]

^^ All the money they spent, huh. And now they are giving it away for free?

Server hosting costs money. No matter who provides the service. MS might give you a discount for XBL if you host on Azure and use MS's services. But that's about it. The publisher pays for the server time. No matter how you want to twist this.

Azure isn't a game hosting service (only). It's a corporate business service which also is used for gaming.

[FanboyKilla]

acti and ea want to use their own servers, because if they use ms servers, it would put theirs to shame. you wouldnt want anything but dedicated.

also, what about ps4? you think they would put xone on dedicated servers and ps4 on p2p? lmfao those sony fanboys would blow their tops. they wouldnt even support the game. they would want it too. you cant use ms for sony soooo they would have to provide their own for sony. which means spend money, which means they wont.

[pompombrum]

p2p in 2014? Sorry but that's laughable especially when it's with one of the most profitable releases of the year.

[CowbopBeboy]

Agreed. You'd think Activision would invest some money into dedicated servers by now.

[Alexious]

I didn't lag at all and yesterday was the first day with everyone playing.

[CowbopBeboy]

It differentiates between players. I've experienced some issues, but not as many as others. But when compared with Titanfall, which had dedicated servers, it's very noticeable.

[SheenuTheLegend]

Believe me, it lags so much to me.
I can play every other game fine but never a call of duty

[SuicideKing]

Maybe your too slow for call of duty...just joking.
It seems the same as every year for me lag wise. Sometimes it is realy bad but mostly ok. It is disappointing coming from Titanfall though.

[polloloco]

Did they not say a few days ago the game would have dedicated servers ? lol i did not buy the game but thats 2 years in a row where they lied.

[CowbopBeboy]

Ghosts eventually did have dedicated servers, kinda. They were a weird form of hybrid server that a lot of people had problems with. I didn't really play Ghosts, though, so I couldn't tell you how successful those servers were.

[Volkama]

That hybrid dedicated line is/was a crock. Not even close to the same thing as dedicated servers hosting games.

[Volkama]

They said a week or 2 ago that there will be dedicated servers, but that details about platforms and specifics would follow later.

They were asked directly in the Reddit AMA yesterday "Will there be dedicated servers", and they answered "yes", but then completely ignored all of the obvious follow-up questions.

[Summons75]

Yes just like they said the story would be longer than 2 hours and they are changing up the game....cod devs and Activision promise the world and never deliver.

[knifefight]

I haven't played it yet, but I hope that most players can have an optimal experience.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Lag? I have had only one host migration, every other game has been great. I'm really enjoying the movement system, and even though my stats are terrible (not that I even care) this is the change CoD needed in my book. Fast faced and a lot of fun.

[dreamed]

Says it all really,you telling me a game this big cant afford dedicated servers,just shows the contempt acti has for its fans......ps watched a few twitch streams and this game is such a pos its unreal...what do u all like about this crap??????????????

[caseh]

It's not that they can't afford them, it's the fact that dedicated servers for the CoD userbase are going to cost a small fortune when the millions upon millions of players already use P2P and know no difference.

Why would they pay big dollar to fix something that the majority know nothing about?

[Locknuts]

I have had no issues. Really enjoying the game.

[dillhole]

Wow, you have 5 disagrees for stating a fact about your experience. Who does that? I have had no lag either.

[Locknuts]

Meh. It's N4G. I think I said I didn't like the PS4 games line up once or something and disagrees have magically followed me ever since.

[The Meerkat]

This is interesting.

I had some sporadic lag while playing on the PS4 yesterday. I just put it down to the PSN seeing that every other COD game I've played was on the 360.

But it was only minor. My biggest gripe is the controller. COD just doesn't feel right with a DS4.

[GoPanthers999]

X1 andlaying split screen with my son, we have experienced no lag whatsoever. Have been disconnected a couple of times, but I would expect that.

[SeanScythe]

I sort of enjoy the game, but there are so many issues that the game is a 7.5/10 for me.
Cons:
Maps: there are far to few maps. And they seem to limited to where you can and can't go.
Sounds: there is no Bass or deep sounds in this game. The loudest sounds in the game are when you unlock new things after the rounds are over.
Guns: This is the future and I can still only have 2 attachments on my gun.
Community: Urggggghhhh Why isn't there a way to mute all before a round starts? I swear the people are no different and all they do is talk bs and make annoying sounds/comments.
One more this about the audio/sound: There is no control of the audio other than master volume and music. there is no way to turn up or down the volume of voice chat or other options common in games. Also why is the damn chat in the middle of the screen it's annoying.

[Dudebro90]

Either you are trolling, don't have the game, or don't know how to wire a sound system.

This is by FAR the most powerful and bass heavy soundtrack of any call of duty.

[SeanScythe]

Yeah I'm trolling and don't know how to wire my PS Gold Wireless 7.1 headset. I'm not the only one that's noticed the sound. If you are getting bass out of this game you must have your sound craned up because the loudest thing in this game is the unlocks. And no it's not the most powerful and bass heavy, the last COD game I played was black ops and it was way better with sound than this game. Also BF4, Killzone:SF, TLoU, Diablo3, and all my other games sound just fine. Quit defending this game like the second coming. It's got issue but it's still a fun game.

[ironmonkey]

No lag on ps4

[Revengeance]

Don't know why you're getting disagrees. I guess it's from Xbox fanboys who want PSN to fail.

[SuicideKing]

Or other ps4 users who ARE experiencing lag...

[Mkai28]

You know, the word "fanboy" is getting tired. Perhaps getting disagrees because he is speaking for everyone that has a PS4 and saying there is no lag.. What if someone said Xbox one has no lag?

[hello12]

To say there is no lag is stupid. Even x box 1 would have noticeable lag if dedicated servers are not been used.

[FrankTheRabbit]

How is the lag (if there is any) on the Xbox One? I would say about 75% of my matches have tons of lag in them (ps4)and its hard to keep going back. When everything works I can say its the most fun I've had in a cod since black ops but the lag is just turning me off.

[jrshankill]

No big issues for me so far on X1. Have been disconnected maybe 1 out of 10 games. Nothing game breaking at all.

[PizzaSteve]

And the complaints begin. Every year the same complaints over the same crap game. I'm tired of saying 'when is people gonna learn' but people are not gonna learn. Activision is gonna keep giving you the same crap long as you keep buying it. Glad I don't play this crap.

[SliceOfTruth888]

Its day 1....did people expect no lag?

[JeffGUNZ]

Well, I think people DESERVE dedicated servers at this point. How much money does COD make for Activision, yet they continue to run it on P2P when people always complain about lag. Playing Titanfall then jumping to COD is a joke really. I used to love COD, back when COD4MW and MW2 were out, but it's been a complete downward spiral since then. I'll stick with Destiny for now, really can't wait for Rainbow 6 Seige to come out.

[SpinalRemains138]

There is definite lag. You notice it more when you're sniping, as every milisecond becomes even more paramount considering you're aiming for a smaller target with one bullet. The ADS on scopes is very slow and when you headshot a guy, and he doesn't get hit but keeps running or whatever, its noticable.

Not so much during run and gun where you spray 5-8 rounds and may not notice the first one miss or not register. Its subtle, which is good compared to other past games, but its there.

[Donnywho]

They should just start releasing one every 6 months. Based on their strategies, it's the only logical thing to do.

[randomguy35]

On the ps4 only noticed lag on one occasion. Other than that one time I haven't seen it again. A lot of people should check they're nat type.

[randomguy35]

Lol I guess the down vote came from me mentioning I have it on ps4 you fanboys are hilarious.

[blackblades]

Been off cod since black ops, and it feels good.

[raWfodog]

I also haven't played COD since the first BLOPS but I think I'll be getting this one.

[RaptgamersUnited]

Yeah I played for 3 hours yesterday on Hardcore and was losing like crazy to all the campers. I was like what the hell I suck at this game until I tested the lag.

[Wedge19]

I'll agree. The lag was getting extremely frustrating yesterday on PS4. Weird issues with no skill involvement.

[StreelyBoy]

The video they show is a bad example. First he miss half his shots and he is using a lazor type gun.

[GearSkiN]

I kno the xbox has dedicated servers

[oO_bizkitz_Oo]

I have no prob on xbone..... no prob at all upgrade your walmart connection ppl. Garbage article meant to get ppl to rant about pointless shit.

[InTheZoneAC]

I'm surprised that despite how much they've made off this series they still cheap out with some wimpy P2P infrastructure...

[Ps4andxb1]

Parity -

That thing that happens when MS Azure servers arent allowed to be used because Sony doesn't have the network infrastructure to match it.

Therefore we all suffer with p2p.

[Mkai28]

Or when some Ps4 owners complain about how they should've had a dynamic resolution as well to maintain a more consistent 60fps.. But would've complained if it was 1320x1080 and cried parity.

[xMAJORxCARNAGEx]

i am having major problems with lag to the point its becoming unplayable, the ping drops all the time and its been like this since launch I HOPE THEY FIX IT

[N4GJD]

As someone who has witnessed the lag compensation progressively increased with each new release of a call of duty title; it's really not surprising to say the least. It's obviously been intentional to cater to every possible internet connection out there (includes bad connections) or to make outcomes random (for noobs). You'll soon have connections originating from mexico or overseas taking over the game. And dedicated servers would not the solution; you'd experience the same garbage (trust me). If you don't experience this by now, you must have a terrible connection.

[iistuii]

No problem this end. Not a single game of bad lag. Maybe I'm lucky..

[Lulz_Boat]

believe me or not, this is the FIRST COD game where i noticed ZERO lag problem.

[Mac420]

The problem isn't the fact the games P2P, its caused by these studios allowing weaker, an weaker connections to get on video games. Just like Destiny, BF4, everything is being dumb down. From the actual games themselves down to the connection required to play them correctly.

P2P was fine in Halo 2, an multiple other games. Hasn't been a problem all these previous years, up until about 3-4 years ago. Now studios have removed the required bandwidth cap or set it lower not sure which just a guess, an all games P2P or Dedicated are suffering for it.

With a game like COD that essentially cost them nothing to produce, they spend double sometimes triple the amount on Marketing alone, you figure if anybody should have dedicated it should be them.

Until they stop worrying about the lowest denominator to make a profit for they're share holders, this trend will continue, because they no longer care about the gamers, they just want anybody who is willing to buy the game.

[Macdaddy71]

Mac420 Nailed it enough said!!!!! that's the lag

[kevnb]

many internet providers have started throttling peer to peer transfers in that time.

[xActionBasturdx]

I havent had any lag issues on ps4...probably the smoothest CoD launch I've experienced in a while

Can't speak on any other console though.

[2pacalypsenow]

I thought i was having lag cuz my shots were delayed and movements were delayed .

Turns out my tv was is cinema mode not Game mode loving the game so far :-b

[Zoloftuser]

Does that explain why bullets go around corners?

[captainexplosion]

I'm getting the same problems I had with MW2. I will shoot at somebody first but they kill me, then I watch my kill cam and I never even shot at him. It makes game very hard to play.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I've been watching players stream this on PS4 and it very rarely lagged from anything I saw!

[JonnyBigBoss]

P2P needs to DIE!

[Quofo]

This game has shit gameplay, shit graphics, shit maps and the worst lag I've ever experienced on any CoD to date. I'll literally empty a 30 round clip into someone's back with perfect accuracy and still not get one hit marker. Biggest piece of shit I've ever played. Fuck you Activision and fuck you Sledgehammer. Last year I buy this fucking garbage. Can't even get dedicated servers on a game that has made billions. Pathetic. Payed 120 dollars for this trash and I'm returning it today asap. Save your money people! This game is pure shit. Black Ops 1 graphics and lag. An absolute joke! And did I mention, worst spawns ever? You can literally kill a guy and he'll immediately spawn behind you and kill you 0.5 seconds later. Happens non stop.

[DiLeCtioN]

Glad I did not buy it, don't support something that is broken

[Zoloftuser]

The problem is anyone with a great connection gets penalized when someone with a bad connection plays in the same game. I can never win head to head since they changed the lag compensation host to average in COD BO 2. How is there any skill in a game when you are always .5 seconds behind some kid who's connection is average. I would love to get this game but I can't take the garbage coding they use. Skill is not even a factor these days.

[angelwrath]

And that's what you get for buying an Activision game.

[0neShot]

This is just the author throwing gripe about his loses in MP, and he has to use "players" to make it like widespread.

There is definitely fine tuning to be made with the lag or lag comp but saying it unbearable or forcing players to back out is simply BS.

[beereal360]

No lag on my xbox one

[Flames76]

Im already done with the game nothing but modded controller's.Im glad i rented it COD is done game over

[Macdaddy71]

Bullshit they no lag!!!
I have twc 15 up n 1.7 Down, ps4 two x1 wii u dish 3 tablets kindle seven cell phones all using my Wifi, and when I play COD I have Not had No lag what so ever!!!! I think a lot of people don't know how to setup there wifi, but they blame the game, if you go in the game of 16 players n 6 or 7 has low ping that's the lag, low ping players should be able to get kick out,...if hurts everyone

[jstrick17]

For those of you that bought the digital copy, Microsoft game me a full refund because of how bad the game is playing online. For the people who say there is no lag, you're just lucky because Microsoft Support told me they were working directly with Activision to fix the poor online play. If it didnt exist why would they need to fix it???

[quenomamen]

Another year another laggy Doodie.

[kevnb]

some internet providers throttle all peer to peer traffic...

[DoggyBiscuit]

I'm glad I haven't bought the game yet

[JonnyBigBoss]

This delay is atrocious.

[Jumper09]

I dont believe people that say they dont have lag... everyone has it. You will experience it in every 1v1 gunfight lol

[LongShot]

Ive been experiencing lag in AW xbox 360 version, earlyer today everything was really smooth, no lag and now i cant get a decent game. is this happening because its day one and they have to setup stuff or this is like the way the game is

[mokkeyrg2]

dedicated servers really its stupid how laggy it gets its unplayable at times!!

[SonyAddict]

Hit detection + lag=pathetic online game and I find it totally disappointing!, what a shame..

[CoryHG]

OH BUT THIS WASN'T STATED IN ALL THOSE 9/10 REVIEWS NOW WAS IT!?

[CoryHG]

game is unplayable but manages high reviews. Game is garbage as usual.

[toejo78]

Never heard such rubbish. Having put over 10 hours into multiplayer I've not witnessed lag even once. Best Cod in years.

[iistuii]

Yeah agree. What you'll get is some idiot with a piss poor internet connection having troubles & using that to bash a perfectly good game. Mine & all my mates in parties since launch have all been ok.

[captainexplosion]

The lag is still really bad on my end. The fact that it takes more bullets to kill in AW makes it seem even worse.

[bjmartynhak]

Actually, longer TTK are less affected by small lag. In Ghosts I would die before the guy started to shoot o.O

[bjmartynhak]

No overall lag here. But LOTS of lost connection to the host.

Usually before it, there is a shit-load of lag and rubber-banding. Then 5-10 seconds later I'm disconnected. This happens with the ping bar both full or red.

PS4 version.

Apart from that, the TTK is actually good for me (this is from someone that loves Killzone and Halo TTK). But as I said, no small overall lag, just massive when it is about to disconnect.

[picklebutter]

Call of Duty PC is over. End of Story. Still crazy silly zoids about Call of Duty Multiplayer, cool I am too. Doesn't change the fact that AW was the defining end of COD PC. The next evolution of COD if there will be one may very well be improved on sommmmmme Ping/Lagcomp/P2P/Dedi level but the fact still remains the fire that has kept the COD series burning well for sooooo long rests in our straight up obsession with dedicated free and independent,liberating Dedicated servers. That place where hit detection is KING and the guy with the know how can stick his grubby fingers onto a keyboard and make the game you love so much shine with new horizons of zombies,additional maps, designs and complimentary refreshments...Oo.. guys that is over. Sorry. After spending severrrrral hours starting with day zero in COD AW I quickly could see a mirror image of COD Ghosts P2P F!@#$%& nightmare. Sure it is awesome and fresh for a few minutes and the all your favorite yellows reds and blacks start filling the ping bars to the right and your innocent COD grin begins to slowwwly turn upside down and then i am just glad (SOOOOO glad the Campaign mode is just brilliant) and it is. My solution for Me is to pick up an Xbox One...but thats just me.