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Naughty Dog and Bungie Artists Explain the “Cheats” Developers Use to Get The Best Results Faster

Game developers often find themselves with very close deadlines, and the need to create the best possible work in the least amount of time. This means that reusing assets from previous games as a base for new ones is a quite widespread practice, as explained by Naughty Dog Environment Artist Anthony Vaccaro and Bungie Digital Matte Artist Isaiah Sherman.

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theXtReMe13999d ago

Developers should've been doing this for years. Meaning, they should create one huge insane resolution asset base to draw from and make things look different with shaders. It would cut down on the amount of time it takes to make a game and cut the costs of rerendering assets that are no different from ones used five games before. A Stop signs always going to be a stop sign, no matter how many times you decide to render it and what resolution. The same goes for 1 million other assets that are used game after game. Why did they pay artists to go back and redraw and re-render those assets over and over again, wasting tons of money and time on stuff that players see for two seconds, when they could've rendered it once in a crazy resolution and downsampled it for the game they were designing at the time.

This is why development costs have skyrocketed over the past 10 to 20 years. They waste money on the stupidest things when they could've done them once and reused them over and over again. Changing minute details with shaders, instead of re-rendering the same object looking older or newer or rusted.

Hasn't made sense to me for years.

Abriael3999d ago

Chances are they *have* been doing it for years.

rodiabloalmeida3999d ago (Edited 3999d ago )

it's a certainty, actually. Nothing about chances. it's a fact.

MegaRay3999d ago

They (games developers) should learn a thing or two from CoD developers lol

deadfrag3999d ago

Developers already do this for years!

Baka-akaB3999d ago (Edited 3999d ago )

nvm every was said above

theXtReMe13999d ago (Edited 3999d ago )

I understand that certain developers have been doing this, what I'm talking about is having one artist or a team of artists do nothing but create a 3-D art asset database with worldly art assets that are used over and over again throughout multiple games in multiple genres. I've talked to developers about this, and they agree that something like that should be done, but there isn't a database of anything. They can go back to their past games and grab stuff but there isn't one central database that has all of the assets in one place to make it easy. What I'm talking about is making one huge database of nothing but those assets in the highest resolution possible, that will assure they can be used for the next 20 or 30 years, but the downsample to use in the given constraints of the hardware of that generation.

Hell, it would make sense for an outside entity to do this. Making this database for any developer in the world to use. And constantly update it with new items. It would make the arts side of developing very simple for every developer in the world to use. Even making landmarks like the arch in St. Louis or San Francisco Bridge, so that art teams don't have to re-create what they've already created or other developers have already created. A simple drag-and-drop into their game world. Which will shorten game development time, both physically and financially, and allow developers to focus their attention on AI and gameplay.

Give_me_head_strong3999d ago

Activision has done this every year since COD 4..

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user56695103999d ago

Gotta respect them for sharing tho

Muzikguy3999d ago

It's cool and all that they (ND) shared this info, but seriously?! If any developer doesn't know this they're in the wrong business. COD has been rehashing the same crap for years, they're masters at this too

DJ3999d ago

If you don't do this, you pretty much don't get hired since it means you're simply not efficient enough. Recycle, reduce, reuse.

Destiny10803999d ago

haven't they used the same red barrel for the last twenty years

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PlayStation - The Concert "Changes Everything" for Music Lovers

PlayStation - The Concert is a magical musical experience for fans of the brand.

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The Last of Us Complete Now Available on PS5, Physical Collector’s Edition Coming July

Two award-winning masterpieces, together in one incredible collection.

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Christopher81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

As expected. Unless it's going to Xbox or Switch 2, we can stop hearing about these older games now? We can move on to just news about new games?

darthv7281d ago

....until the PS6 remake followed by the PS7 reboot

Christopher81d ago

Man, first year of PS6 is going to be 90% remasters. I'm going to hate it and likely hold off until new games actually get released that I can't play on my PS5.

Cacabunga81d ago

Yes I’m waiting for complete remaster…. On ps5

OtterX81d ago

...20 years later, "you haven't heard the last of us yet!" *releases The Last of Us Retro Collection*

cloganart81d ago

@Christopher

Oof, yeah. I don't think I'm picking up the PS6 until "Pro" comes out 😂

Cacabunga80d ago

I haven’t played Tlou1 since PS3 and i have the greatest memory of it

Notellin80d ago

I'm already dreading all the cross generation games and remasters we'll see with the next round of consoles.

LonDonE80d ago

lmao this is getting ridiculous but thing is if people keep buying them.. then why would they stop making them?
Peeps STOP BUYING this game.. that actually hurts me to say this as the last of us is high up on my greatest games of all times.. its one of the few games i played through start to finish 3/4 times back to back as i loved it so much. But sony need to stop, give us a Resistance 3 remaster, i would love and buy that.. such an underated series as was killzone.
Or give us infamous.. so many great series and titles i would gladly buy but they just want to keep giving us last of us.

I am done buying that game.. i would only buy part 2 remaster if they remade it and kept joel alive, or i am not interested. Hate last of us 2s story killing off joel.. the actual game is stunning and incredible, they improved so much in the gameplay department but i hate the story with a passion.

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Profchaos81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

We can stop hearing about it when they stop re-releasing them I guess.

I reckon the ps6 version will be 8k 240 and I'll still not care.

I miss new games from nd

Inverno81d ago

And HBO just announced season 3 even tho LoU2 couldn't possibly be so long that it wouldn't be able to fit in 1 season. They're just milking it at this point.

darthv7281d ago

speaking of the HBO series... I felt they should have made part 1 across two seasons, then address part 2 in seasons 3 and 4. so now i have a feeling they rushed through part 1 in season 1 to make season 2 a cliff hanger with Joel's impending demise being the starting point to Season 3.

-Foxtrot81d ago

I love how they decided to rush, chop and change things for Season 1 to get through the game yet for TLOU Part II it’s like “we’re going to do multiple seasons and take our time”

Inverno81d ago

Okay after seeing that there's only 7 episodes I take it back. Though I think it's incredibly stupid not to have just made the season longer. Another season just to finish what could've just been a 13 episode season seems counterintuitive but aiight. I put that on HBO tho.

Neonridr81d ago

This will be the 4th time Sony sells us The Last of Us Part 1.. And the 2nd time on the PS5.

Knushwood Butt81d ago

They don't want Metroid Prime holding that record,

NotoriousWhiz80d ago

Strange, I thought the record went to Street Fighter 2.

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FPS_D3TH81d ago

We are approaching Skyrim levels here

Profchaos81d ago

At this point we are at Skyrim in terms of frequency. Skyrim was one per generation. If you exclude VR Skyrim we've now exceeded it

Tlou 1 PS3, 1 PS4 2 ps5
Skyrim 1 ps360 2 PS4/x1/vr 1 ps5/sx

Tlou 4
Skyrim 4

Christopher81d ago

Not quite. Skyrim had:

PS3/360/PC
PS4/X1
VR
Switch
Skyrim Special Edition PC/PS4/X1
Skyrim Special Edition PS5/XSX

VersusDMC81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

Also add skyrim bundles like the one below and all the humble bundles since that's what everyone is doing here

https://www.xbox.com/en-CA/...

darthv7281d ago

@Chris, LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base. At least Skyrim was able to sell to a wider audience via different platforms.

Christopher81d ago

@darthv72: I don't know why you're telling me that. I only corrected on number of Skyrim re-releases/ports/etc. I didn't say anything else.

Profchaos81d ago

@christopher guess I forgot just how much was out I think the special editions are technically one release despite being cross platform though would the Alexa version count

Christopher81d ago

@Profchaos: I guess, but I'd consider it a separate release since it rolled them into one at a later date but definitely there is a PS5/XSX version with PS5/XSX supported updates specific to them.

Chevalier80d ago

"LoU is getting just as bad by milking the same user base"

Weird. Like 35% of PS5 owners are NEW to Playstation. Plus this is really for new fans from the TV series for season 2 of TLOU.

I recall the same idiotic comments when the 1st one was remade just before TLOU TV Series came out and it went on the be one of the best selling games that year.

So maybe get your FACTS straight. Unlike Skyrim getting literally releases in 3 generations and 10 releases.

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Neonridr80d ago

I gotta figure RE4 is up there too

FPS_D3TH80d ago

No. Those are remakes. Not remasters

Neonridr80d ago

@FPS - we've had quite a few RE4 remasters, only 1 remake.

CrimsonWing6979d ago (Edited 79d ago )

@FPS_D3TH

It blows my mind how people do some mental gymnastics to try to cope with a game they like doing the same thing (technically more) they’re complaining about for another game.

RE4 - PS2, GC
RE4 w Motion Controls - Wii
Literally RE4 HD Remaster - Xbox 360, PS3
I’m assuming a port of RE HD - PS4, Xbox One
RE4 Remake - PS5, Xsex

1 Remake and the bunch are Remasters… how, I mean how—Y’know what, it doesn’t matter anymore…

P_Bomb81d ago

Store says I already own it. I guess it’s just a straight twin-pack. Looks like they added 4 maps to ‘No Return’.

VersusDMC81d ago

You don't need to buy this to get the maps, marlene and bill. It all got patched in to the game on the 3rd.

P_Bomb81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

Good to know. I’ve watched runs of ‘No Return’ but have yet to try it myself. Soon, soon 😉

Knushwood Butt81d ago

Yeah, No Return got a content update.
Three new trophies too.

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A mysterious physical edition of a Naughty Dog game is in the works

billibil-kun: "As The Last of Us season 2 prepares to air on HBO, we've spotted a mysterious reference to a special edition of a physical PS5 game from the franchise. Here's our take on the game, which remains unclear for now."

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Relientk7791d ago

It's probably a bundle of both The Last of Us games

Nyxus91d ago

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. The Last of Us Part 1 + II Remastered.

lukasmain91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

That's totally what it is I believe. It would be a great bundle for new players getting into the ecosystem

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Goodguy0191d ago

They're really milking this franchise lol

anast91d ago

You must comment on every Mario, Zelda, and Skyrim article too.

darthv7291d ago

....because there has been the same mario, Zelda and Skyrim games for three console generations?

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isarai90d ago

@darthv72

Literally yes 🤨

Cacabunga90d ago

Every Mario and Zelda is different. This is just the exact same game over and over

anast90d ago

Skyrim, yes. Mario and Zelda since the 80's

Loktai90d ago

@darthv72 Uh yes. Yes it has. They milked BOTW across Wii U and switch and they STILL want 40+ for it new and never discounted it. They made "remasters" of older zelda games as well on switch and in the past onto the other gameboy platforms from the older platforms. They have done the same with Mario. They port the paper mario games and mario RPG to switch. And now I PROMISE you they are going to show "enhancements" for those same games on Switch 2. I PROMISE you thats going to get mentioned, maybe even tomorrow. Last of us Part 1 has been across techncially 3 generations, but 2 has been 2- and JUST BARELY 2 because it released just a few months before the PS5 did - and so if that counts as milking it, what do you call breath of the wild on Wii U then going to switch or Twilight Princess coming uot on gamecube and Wii - OR ZELDA WIND WAKER HD coming out?

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Chevalier90d ago (Edited 90d ago )

"Skyrim games for three console generations?"

Darth showing some idiocy here. Seriously yes Skyrim has been re-released more than any other game period. It's been released on 3 generations - PS3, PS4, PS5, PSVR, PC, PC VR, Switch, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S. That's 10 releases across 3 generations! So Seriously get your DAMN facts straight.

Yui_Suzumiya90d ago

And yet Fallout 3 has never been Remastered. Prison time should be given for that offense, lol

darthv7290d ago

Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much

thorstein90d ago (Edited 90d ago )

@darth GTAV says hi.

Skyrim has an Alexa edition.

Chevalier90d ago

Clearly a guy with business acumen! Why would Sony want to rebundle games and release them in time for the 2nd season of TLOU to release? I mean the last time a bunch of idiots laughed at Sony then guess what? TLOU part 1 for PS5 only hit top 5 sales and kept popping onto charts throughout the year?! Lol

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Chevalier90d ago

"Skyrim sure, but the other two... not so much"

Multiple Mario and Zelda games have made 2 generations. Maybe you guys forget that over a 3rd of the gamers on Playstation have NEVER owned a Playstation system before and some are coming into it as a result of the TV show.

People said the EXACT same crap when the 1st game got released on PS5, but, it ended up being one of the best selling games the year it came out.

Also for all the idiots complaining. Playstation at least offer $10 upgrades for some of these games. Have you EVER seen a re-release by Nintendo, Xbox, Bethesda offer that?! No I didn't think so.

darthv7290d ago

releasing a newer version because the previous version is not physically compatible is not quite the same as taking a perfectly good existing game that already works on the newer platform and repackaging it under a remaster brand for that newer platform and then repackaging it AGAIN for the same platform.

And that whole line of *insert people here may not have had a PS before* is a line of BS. PS2 is the most selling platform in history... chances are very good a high percentage upgrade to the PS3 and then upgraded to the PS4 and are upgrading again for the PS5. So dont give me that line of bologna. you'd rather swallow every bit of Sony propaganda instead of call them out for milking (and yes this is milking) this game. You know there will be a PS6 version and likely a PS7 remaster.

Of course i am purely speculating on the 6 & 7 but there is a high degree of probability because of what they did already between 3, 4 & 5. And you defending even the $10 upgrade when most of the XB games get free upgrades is just another sign of your blind loyalty. I didnt think it possible and gave you benefit of the doubt but now I can see i was totally wrong.

Chevalier89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

@Darth

Again your examples are absolutely terrible. Repackaged games for new audiences isn't new with the high cost of development. This release is timed for people that are new to Playstation coming from watching season 2 of the TV show. If you're surprised and annoyed by this then stop gaming then. It will happen if there's some new Skyrim, Fallout, Doom or whatever TV show comes out too.

Also you're the guy who defends Xbox for this crap too. Skyrim releases were done while owned by Xbox.

Also you mentioned the PS2, repackaged games happened all the time then too. If you think that repackaged games is going to go away with the skyrocketing cost of development is going away then sorry cover your eyes and plug your ears and pretend like an idiot then. You will be complaining daily soon.

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OhReginald91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

I hope it's both ps5 games bundled with all updates including the new no return add ons for April. I'll triple dip on that.

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