June Xbox One software dev kit gives devs access to more GPU bandwidth

Phil Spencer :

"June XboxOne software dev kit gives devs access to more GPU bandwidth. More performance, new tools and flexibility to make games better"

[No_Limit]

Great news for XB1 owners. In Phil Spencer we trust!

[Blaze929]

Microsoft being the software juggernauts they are known to be! Phil's doing a great job with Xbox One as of late. So quickly too - it's amazing.

[mcstorm]

I agree. Love what has been done with the xbox one so far and I do think its only going to get better and better as this gen goes along.

[christocolus]

Phil is doing great.I must say. The xbox software team have been on their toes since launch. I think a lot devs have been waiting for this. Infinity ward will be very happy about this. Great job guys.

Offtopic: I think 343 or some other developer i.e black tusk or epic will show off a game at E3 which will also be used to demonstrate what can be achieved with dx 12 on xbox one. Its just a thought.hopefully it comes true.

@blaze

Lol. Software juggernauts.. You are damn right. This is actually one of their biggest strengths. The console is already looking so different from what it was at launch.

[headblackman]

i like xbox and phil spencers leadership in the xbox division, but id rather stick with in God we trust!

[TheRedButterfly]

No. Keep religion out of this.

[vega275]

Any idea when the update will roll out. I already have my 5TB hard drive and I want to start transferring my stuff over. Can't wait

[Kayant]

Let's see how this helps with Q3/Q4 games. Good news for XB1 owners sounds like the kinect/snap system reservation has been reduced.

[Illusive_Man]

It'll help. Games are already starting to look damn near indistinguishable on either platform. The only way differences are being discovered are under heavily detailed scrutiny by DF.

Did people really think X1 games would stay 720p? C'mon Man!

Slightly off topic but Forza Horizons 2 is 1080p.

[cruzngta]

Certain people were hoping XB1 would stay at mostly 720p and that is just ignorant because it already had achieved 1080p in several games. I always feel the games are just a bit more crisp and colorful on my XB1 than my PS4 except of course for exclusives. Lots of pop in on PS4 games that deliver 1080p and that annoys me when I see it. Some games on XB1 have better looking textures as well so I think all of this debating is just a load of shit anyway. PS4 is a beast and so is XB1 and they are both going to improve over time. I have several titles on both machines and they all look very close and in some cases better on XB1 as I said b4. Some games are a little better on PS4. Its not what some people are trying to make it seem. I know because I have both and have spent alot of money on many titles for both as well as versions for each to compare on several different tv's / monitors. I am a geek with this shit and like I said its very close people. Just enjoy them for what they are.

[Freedomland]

Meanwhile "ICETEAM" is sitting in their offices, eating doughnuts. Right?

[n4rc]

Maybe... You're the only one saying that.. Lol

[marlinfan10]

@feedom

i didnt see anyone mention them or sony.

[SuperBlunt]

To those saying the xbox games look more colorful on xbox vs ps4 all you have to do is go to your settings on ps4 and put rgb range to full. I just messed with it and the difference is ridiculous. God knows why they didnt just automatically enable it

[JohnathanACE]

As the console generation goes on these consoles are just going to get more powerful.

[cruzngta]

So happy that Phil is THE 'HMFIC' for Xbox now. This should help put an end to all of the bullshit 'XB1 cant do 1080p' and inferior multiplat crap that keeps surfacing. Its a beast of a machine and Phil is undoing all of the elements that were holding back its full potential. Every move he has made has been solid and right b4 E3 - this is huge for us XB1 brethren. Thank you Phil.

[imt558]

Quote :

"...So happy that Phil is THE 'HMFIC' for Xbox now. This should help put an end to all of the bullshit 'XB1 cant do 1080p' and inferior multiplat crap that keeps surfacing..."

Great news, but 1.32 TFLOPS and ALU, ROP's, CU's will not change.

Anyway probably this is ~8% GPU reservation for Kinect, now it will be free.

[akaFullMetal]

Yea I believe this is that 8% gpu reserve being opened up for games. Were they saving that for kinect? If that is true, then kinect isn't so central anymore in there plans for the future possibly?

[Teddy-Duchamp]

Cruzngta, don't take offence mate, but how do you come to the conclusion these two consoles are remotely close in terms of power/ performance? I think we've all heard the "I've got both consoles story" it seems common practice amongst fanboys in an attempt to make readers believe they're giving unbiased opinions.

To be fair, your comments regarding buying the same game for each console, then testing them on (in your own words) "several different tv's/monitor's does seem a tad far fetched.

In the very same post you concluded the consoles are very close and we should enjoy them for what they are.
But.......you, by your own admission have gone to some pretty time consuming, not to mention expensive lengths to prove parity between said consoles.
This kind of contradicts your own advice when you wrote "Enjoy them for what they are"

If you prefer Xbox that's cool bro, but to say these machines are virtually equal would be ignoring the facts.
On pure gaming alone, pound for pound, one of these consoles excels over the other.
This is not a insult to Microsoft, it's just a massive praise to Sony.

[FalloutWanderer2077]

You were doing so well until the last sentence tisk tisk.I could be on here saying similar immature,tedious things about how my gaming PC crushes both the ps4 and xbox one but I don't.

You people need to get a grip. I cannot help but think it;s this "new" mentality. Are you all children or do you work for the respective companies that a majority insist on worshiping? All the while slinging shit on the other platforms.

I am telling you, a lot of people on here are in need of some serious help,need to grow the hell up,save up so they can enjoy more than one console/platform or last but not least, I hope Microsoft and Sony are paying you well.

That is how bad it looks.

"nana a booboo...i gota ps4...its soooo strong...ha beat that!"

" Na ahh my xbox is da most powerfulset everrr...to inifinty..no takebacks"

[Teddy-Duchamp]

"I could be on here saying similar immature,tedious things about how my gaming PC crushes both the ps4 and xbox one but I don't."

Oh but you did.
You just tried to stealth plant it in the guise of sarcasm.
Calm down though fella, I agree with most of your wisdom.

I think coke kicks Pepsi's ass, lets not get too upset about it though.
It's just opinion.

[FalloutWanderer2077]

A high-end PC does trump console.Even the most jaded,zealous fanboy knows that deep within their dark,deprived,jealous heart.

The point is I am not going around blabbing that and throwing it in peoples faces. There is a huge difference and you know it.

Opinions are like a$$holes,unless that particular person has theirs sewed up shut,then yeah, they don't have an opinion lol.

Fair enough. I enjoy coming to this site for the gaming news and every time I see negativity and the d**k measuring console contest,it irks me. I apologize for coming at you in any derogatory way. I sincerely just want more people to get a long,simply put.

Pepsi over coke, coke is too acidic :P

[BabyTownFrolics]

good news is good

[mmj]

Nothing will change.

[No_Limit]

Agreed. The haters will still troll this bit of good Xbox news with negative propaganda just like every other article. That will never change around here.

[player002]

mmmkay more access to gpu and better tools but nothing will change what kind of logic is that..Guess haters gunna hate E3 will be epic

[mmj]

It's the logic of comprehending physical hardware limitations and that the significant gap between the two consoles will always exist.

[n4rc]

It only remains if the other guy matches the competition point for point..

Hardware is a paperweight without software.. People thinking its all the same truly don't know squat

[Chanogram]

Good news is good news. Nice to see it come from a reliable source and not some "insider".

[KingKionic]

Lord Phil spreading the good news.

[GW212]

Question - I bought a launch day edition and have the Kinect that came with it (and seem to be one of the dwindling few that actually think it's pretty cool). Will the additional GPU bandwidth only be accessible if no Kinect is plugged in or will the dev kit give devs the ability to "turn off" bandwidth reserved for Kinect and funnel it directly towards game performance?

[scotmacb]

Just bypass kinect and use it for games simple then give it back when your finished the game

[Chanogram]

They still have to build games with the assumption that a Kinect is plugged in. So... No. This is a system-wide free up of space. We dont even know for sure that it is a kinect reservation decrease. It could be simple optimization of the multiple Operating Systems and how they all use the hardware. Could also be an API update that is just a bit more efficient.

Edit: Of course someone would disagree with this comment right away. After all, everything i said in here was full of opinion and very controversial. N4G FTMFW!

[gamertk421]

Dat MFW, tho

[GW212]

Cool man, thanks for the info.

[denawayne]

Love my Xbox One and Kinect is one of the reasons why.

[Bigpappy]

GW212 writes: "I bought a launch day edition and have the Kinect that came with it (and seem to be one of the dwindling few that actually think it's pretty cool)."

What lead you to have that impression. Everyone I know, who owns Kinect with X1, loves it. Many, who bought it with out, will be looking for one in the near future.

[GW212]

The fact that MS dropped it after trying to sell it so hard coupled with most of my friends being tired of it leads me to that impression.

With all of that said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. For me, I like it and am glad I have it.

[Bigpappy]

I believe they unbundled it simply to have a lower price point that they think would help them to sell more consoles and be more competitive with Sony. I is NOT that they have given up on it.

[DoubleM70]

No it just further optimization X1 just improving with time that's all.

[Redgehammer]

Wait, I believe Kinect is more CPU centric. Isn't it?

[scotmacb]

X1 just keeps getting better MS are gonna win this gen

[gameon1985]

only if people learn to let go of the pass, and another mans (Don Mattrick) mistake. It really is sad that after all the changes Microsoft has done in such a short amount of time people still hold a grudge against Them for DRM.

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Great news for XB1 owners

[True_Samurai]

Nothing stops this train
http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/...

[mrpsychoticstalker]

Phil for president.

[Bonkerz]

Gotta say with all the recent additions, software updates, external drives, app updates/additions, more GPU bandwidth, X1 is really becoming that power house, im already at the point where i barely turn my PC on lol.

[Whitey2k]

Seeing is believing performance increase yes but still with lack of rops etc etc wont make or still struggle to maintain 1080p ps4 still yet have to update its software and release more ram and unlock a rop

[player002]

rops is not as important with gcn as direct compute and bandwith are learn ur ish man...You think Phil just said that for a 2 percent increase lol.I expect him to elaborate more on it from now till E3 or devs will speak on it.This is XB1 article why are yo here in the first place..This site man i tell ya i say reasonable things yet the fanboys bubble me down smh bubble me up brothers

[Convas]

There aren't going to be any unlocked "ROPs" on PS4.

You don't even understand what the hell you're talking about. You're referring to the 2 extra CUs that are part of the PS4. Those will not be activated, they're there for failsafe measures, in case one or two of the 18 active PS4 CUs fail.

Stop talking about things you don't understand.

[koliosis]

YIPPIEEEE!!!!

[GameDev1]

Xbox One, i am buying you

This is great news

[MonstaTruk]

As good news as this is for new Xbox One owners, this pretty much confirms the "disconnect the KINECT to play this game" effect. Which, to some gamers, that's ok, for a little higher resolution. I don't know, I just kinda wished Microsoft would've put aside their "I'm American and I WILL NOT take a loss!" - type of mentality. They should've just ate the $100 price drop and expanded on the untapped KINECT experience/potential, in my humble opinion...

[gameon1985]

How do you know this just wont Stop sending power to the kinect when you are playing the game, but gives it back when you are not?

[MonstaTruk]

Isn't that the same thing? No power going to the KINECT during gameplay = no KINECT during gameplay...

[snookiegamer]

Removing Kinect gives developers more options, and not all games require it. I believe it's a good trade off. It's awesome that they can make gains with the GPU so early in the game :)

[Kribwalker]

It's funny how a positive xbox one article is sitting at such a low degree. If it said something like "insiders claim Xbox one running halo at 792p" this article would probably break N4G filled with haters. Way to go MS, keep updating to bring us the great experiences

[jnemesh]

Good lord, another "secret sauce" article! Tell you what, Microsoft...when you have a game that uses all this sauce to give a superior experience than your competition, THEN brag about it. I am sick to death of reading story after story about how DX12, Cloud computing, and SDK tweaks will "improve" the sub-par performance of your overpriced, underperforming, underselling console! SHOW us that it's a better value, don't just keep talking about magic fairy dust that will somehow benefit gamers in strange and mysterious ways!

[urwifeminder]

Take a break from reading them it may help , I hate to see you all bothered like this.

[Crazay]

Overpriced...? Technically...in Canada its only $50 more with kinect compared to the ps4 without PS Camera.

[jnemesh]

Still overpriced. Still underperforming.

[vega275]

Here's a idea. If your really tired of hearing about those things. Maybe you should hmm I dont know stay out of the MS thread. It will help you tremendously with your problem. Ok goodbye now

[mokkeyrg2]

good news f the haters i say.

[BattleTorn]

I've been wondering - what if this is the decrease in reserve for Kinect - what'll happen to those of the players who go to use their Kinect while their using the additional resources in their resource-demanding game??

Will the game drop in quality? Or will the X1 simply say Kinect is unavailable at this moment?

[Predaking77]

That GPU must be the one reserved for Kinect.

This would be good news if it actually make any difference but for that people will have to wait and see with actual proof and not just whishing.

[HacSawJimThugin]

With all of these bombshells dropping before E3 one can only wonder....the anticipation is killing me. Good job MS.

[Yukonsbud]

Im going to name my son Phil someday

[quenomamen]

760p here we come !!