DX 12 Will Improve Xbox One Games' Performance, Reduces CPU Utilization By 50%

Microsoft details the advantages of DX 12.

[Boltshocker]

XB1 seems to be getting alot better keep up the good work Microsoft listen to your fans

[u got owned]

excited, finally good news from MS camp, now give us that price drop

[Gazondaily]

Yeah this is big. More Nandos sauce than secret sauce.

[TI_21]

MS had some good news for a while now. ;)
Though DX12 won't be such a huge jump on X1 since it already uses a custom D3D console API which doesn't have as much overhead to begin with.

[Saigon]

I am not trying to hate, but did we speak too soon regarding this. I mean it won't be available until late 2015. What was the point of showing it this soon, why not wait until next year when it is a little more reasonable or the end of 2014. But I do know why it done this early, lets see if anyone else can guess...

[SmielmaN]

Price drop won't happen until holiday 2015. Btw, this isn't being released until holiday 2015?! By then we will be on second and third generation games for these consoles! Everything's going to look better.

[PONTIAC08G8GT]

The news lately has actually been good for MS.

- New update rolled out
- Titanfall launched successfully
- Another update was announced for April
- Project Spark BETA is up and available for everyone
- DX12
- EA secured rights for Titanfall 2
- Twitch service
- X1 system sale increase

They are still behind PS4 but its nice to see they are making an attempt to right the ship.

[UnholyLight]

Yes, finally some good news.

Now hopefully both my consoles will get equal amounts of love. Currently playing the crap out of my PS4 compared to the X1.

See everyone? Why were you so quick to write off the X1? Don't you feel at least a bit idiotic right now?

[DeathOfTheFanBoy]

@Saigon it's not meant for the public, this is for devs.

[Evilsnuggle]

I Posted a video that said the same thing . That yes DX 12 would improve tools for xbone. But it's seriously doubtful that the xbone would receive a substantial boost In performance. No super duper ultimate extra special secret sauce or No 5%-10 performance boost. The video also said it would not close the performance gap between PS4 AND xbone. The red dragon and a lot of xbone fanBoys Are so delusional By insisting that DX 12 would be some sort of secret sauce more disappointment For the xbone boys and girls.

SmielmaN
Michael Pachter has insiders at Microsoft that said that Microsoft will drop kinect in 2015. Michael Pachter also said that the reason that every xbone has a Kincet is because of tricky Don Juan Mattrick . Don Mattrick though kinect would change the world now Don Mattrick is gone so will kinect said Michael Pachter.
http://n4g.com/news/1471270...

[jebabcock]

A release of Holiday 2015 is almost 2 years away... i sense vaporware.... another milo if you will...

[Denethor_II]

What about DX12 for PC?

[The Great Melon]

@PONTIAC08G8GT

EA securing rights for Titanfall 2 isn't a good thing for Microsoft. It pretty much means that it is coming out for the PS4.

[GameNameFame]

So Xbox 1 gets mantle like features.

So PS4 will get the same thing or already has one working soon.

How does that close the gap? both gets same software?

benefit is mostly for PC really.

[GameNameFame]

Just to be clear.

Xbox One can ALREADY "Code to Metal". So in reality, besides of easy porting, it offers no advantage, no change in gap size.

You still are limited by hardware. No power lock. No new special processing.

Just better access to hardware for programmer. Good for PC. For consoles, they had that already for looooong time.

[ProjectVulcan]

Well pretty much what I said. That it'll take ages to arrive and not matter to Xbox One. The figures thrown around for it aren't going to apply to console either.

It'll benefit PC most, Xbox One will just get gradual updates to improve it just as PS4 will.

The fact is they are largely CPU performance related also isn't a big deal for consoles which share the same CPU architecture, but have a large disparity in GPU performance....

It'll be a boon for PC developers though.

[awi5951]

@Evilsnuggle

Direct x9 to 10 was a huge boost too bad microsoft tried to force windows vista down our throats with it. Well games like crysis it was found out that you could force most of the lighting effects onto windows xp it was close but not as good as vista. But stalker has a huge boost with direct x 10 so it was a noticeable graphics upgrade.

[waljaber]

2015 PS4 will be the leading console by then and plenty of games will look way better then X1, two n half year from lunch console :( come on.

[UltimateMaster]

It reduces the CPU to offload the task onto the GPU instead. Like what the PS4 is currently doing.

[ABizzel1]

It's amazing what a fake headline can do. The XBO isn't getting 50% more CPU performance, that 50% increase in performance was directly aimed at low end PC CPU's. The XBO already has a low level API, so DX12 will be a modest improvement over what's being offered, but hopefully much better tools. Also the XBO's CPU isn't the problem, it's the GPU being under-clocked and having cores cut from it's original HD 7790 (which would be a good GPU, but turn it into a 7750 + 7770 hybrid / 7760), and the lack of graphics RAM (6GB DDR3 + 2GB GDDR5 would have been so much better).

The XBO needs GPU and RAM improvements, not a slight CPU boost, but every little bit helps. The last thing is that games won't be launching with DX12 support until late 2015.

DX12 is a nice boost for PC gaming, but a minor boost to XBO, but every little bit helps, in keeping these consoles current.

[GarrusVakarian]

Ok...so what ive gathered so far is that DX12 will basically allow the X1's CPU and GPU to perform tasks more efficiently, right?

If im correct, then obviously, as a result of increased efficiency, you should get increased performance. But how much exactly? I think people are expecting way too much here without realising exactly how much DX12 will help. Can anyone with actual knowledge clue me/us in?

Edit: "DX 12 coming Holiday 2015"....wtf? Why so long?

Edit 2: So the Forza 5 demo they showed off at the DX12 conference was running on an NVIDIA PC....wtf?

[creeping judas]

Not the technical reply you were hoping for, but at this point I think anything is better than nothing.

[kingdip90]

I agree it would be good to know how much of a technical bump this will offer.

consumers need to know which system is the most powerful and has more Bang for its buck. If xbox can definitively say it can out perform ps4 it may bump sales even if people are waiting forever for the update (I believe article says holiday 2015)

[rdgneoz3]

Probably similar to the hype of what the eSRAM could do for the system. Also, it has almost 2 years before it comes out and a little after that before it gets taken advantage of.

[sinspirit]

Why so long? Because, Microsoft having all of that money doesn't mean they work hard. Windows has been nothing but minor updates for over a decade and neglect for problems consumers have repeatedly had, and they still charge ridiculous prices for an upgrade of decade old software, and still pull the 32-bit/64-bit crap to price the unrestricted models higher than the basic and 32-bit versions, that are the same software but they basically gimp it to drive the price of the higher models and to hopefully have people buy the basic and upgrade later on.

[Charybdis]

Some of the benefits will extend to the xb1. Though not as much as for pc's comparable to mantle it (directx12) tries to create a console like level api (efficiency) on pc's. The biggest thing shown for directx in the forza example is that it will be easier for developpers to port their games to pc's using directx 12.

[u got owned]

@Lukas_Japonicus

you are trying to hard to downplay this... Dont worry PS4 will be just fine.

"If im correct, then obviously, as a result of increased efficiency, you should get increased performance. But how much exactly?"

the answer is in the title... "Reduces CPU Utilization By 50%"

[ramiuk1]

exactly holiday 2015 is way to far away.
while its great for pc as PC pretty solida with dx11 but in regard to consoles imo the PS4 Will be too far infront in terms of fidelity for it to help MS,as by then xbone will prob be £199 at retail.

[GarrusVakarian]

@ u got owned

Seriously...wtf are you even talking about? In absolutely no way am i trying to downplay this. I commented on my understanding of DX12 and asked if i was correct...that's it. How can i downplay something that im asking people to explain to me due to my lack of knowledge?

Seems that you are reading my comment with a hint of salty pre-judgement.

"the answer is in the title... "Reduces CPU Utilization By 50%""

Lol, no it's not. That doesn't tell me how *much* of a performance increase we will see in actual games. That just tells us that the CPU will be more efficient.

[nypifisel]

You're correct being careful. Cause even though it surely will help the effects are way to overstated here. One have to realize that the performance of the silicon in the Xbox One as well as the PS4 is static! It can't change!

Also thinking like this is rather silly cause that assumes that the API for the PS4 won't improve at all, which of course is ludicrous. The Xbox One will NEVER be able to close the gap. And right now more than anything it's the small ESRAM which is the Xbox Ones biggest problem.

[SniperControl]

@nypifisel

Bub up, you hit the nail on the head, I love how xboys think Sony are doing nothing to improve the PS4.

[n4gsuxass]

Why do you ask for someone with technical knowledge to clue you in, yet in the same post you are already downplaying its possible impact.

Negative. Have an open mind.

[GameSpawn]

@Lukas

I think you and I both want more information.

The purple elephant in the room:
"Reduces CPU Utilization By 50%"

In comparison to what, Microsoft? My bet is that the whole statement is:
"Reduces CPU Utilization By 50% [in comparison to DX 11]"
Because most performance comparisons are done with previous versions. This was completely omitted by either Microsoft or the article writer to "enhance" the truth and make the announcement seem more amazing than it really is -- all it really does is leave those looking for more technical information staring with question marks over their heads.

Now if this truly is the case...how many games use DX 11 as their sole API and not already using a custom API with lower overhead than DX 11?

[MetaReapre]

@Lukes
In terms of graphical fidelity. It will be a small boost. In terms of computing capability it is quite big. Not 100 percent sure but I belive for the most part in games you should see improving fps in games that use it.

@u got owned
The 50% cpu power doesn't tell us much on the overall graphic processing power that improves stuff like resolution and texture qualities... For all we know it might not be even enough improvement to notice.

[TruthfullySO]

! Just a heads up for you guys, DX12 isn't meant for current tech like XBONE/ or current apu,SoC type architecture not saying the xbone or other tech wont benefit. The changes to the program set are for memory allocation changes, and rendering commands particularly for spread spectrum on logical gpu/cpu sets with multiple cores. Allowing for greater throughput, efficiently and predictability in processing. This will affect any devices with programmable pipelines that support DX11.
The only thing about the xbone is the conflicts within the pipeline when throughput is already about maxed out, leaves little room for the cpu/gpu to dump/fetch instructions from the pipeline, my guess this is where it will benefit the xbone the most. Making it easier to dump/fetch data for new instructions. PS4 eliminated this problem with using a shared programmable pipeline, so CPU/GPU can dump/fetch accordingly, while also using the instruction set without having to duplicate it like in the classic cpu/gpu setup, that was the importance of DDR5 memory in the PS4 architecture.

PC's will benefit the most with the iteration of DDR4 next year. My guess is this is Microsoft preparation for implementing ddr4 into its server systems, which will benefit from the doubling of memory bandwidth and improved allocation tables.
DDR4 is the memory solution for single chip solutions in the future because they allow independent programming of individual DRAMS, which greatly improves individual program performance.

Sorry for typing so much just trying help people get a better understanding.

[thehitman]

No amount of more CPU utilization will make up for bandwidth issues the XB1 has. Means still low resolution games and a 50% better utilization if true will only increase games about 3-5 fps on average. Not trying to be a hater but all MS did was give xbox fans another false hope and people will eat this up like see MS has a plan... Kind of pathetic. There is a saying though "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me" so hope people keep that in mind.

[BOLO]

"Edit: "DX 12 coming Holiday 2015"....wtf? Why so long?"

DirectX 12: Brought to you by Windows 9.

[mark3214uk]

2015 for x1 to do what ps4 is doing NOW wtf lol

[Thunderhawkxbox]

Can u tell me wat ps4 can do xbox one can't don't bring me that 1080p crap if they give u game I bet u can't even tell what resolution game is on if devs don't say anything about it

[Flutterby]

Well at the moment thunder hawk the ps4 can run any game better by about 50% or more.

[IAmSovereign]

@Thunderhawk

"don't bring me that 1080p crap"

You need to stop with that argument. It has nothing to do with the resolution itself. It has to do with the fact that compared to the ps4 the xbox one blinks. Down the road the power gap will show in more than just resolution. AI processing, the ability to create scenarios, these will all come into play down the road. It may only be about resolution now. But what about when a game comes out that fully utilizes all of the PS4s juice, in beauty and in gameplay, and the XB1 just can't cut it?

[LexHazard79]

@ I am sovereign,

Fanboh comment dude! But whatever I actually agree that XB fans to wait and see just how exactly this is going to work! Also a ways off for early 2014 apartment.

[IAmSovereign]

Bakpain, it isn't a fanboy comment. Its facts. There is a massive power gap. Whether you want to accept it or not. It's just the truth.

I don't even own a PS4 either.

[OpieWinston]

HAHAHAHAHA
You think that Open GL is as good as DirectX?
That was pretty funny...If you read their blog.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dir...

That's when it'll be released on PC. It'll be releasing on X1 later this year.

Between Tile resourcing and CPU utilization...You'll be seeing some damn good Exclusive X1 games and decent Third party games (Not a lot of good third party devs out there)

And all that talk about eSRAM being a major bottleneck will be laughable when the X1 is able to offload tasks off the GPU too MAJOR extremes. Cloud allows for Audio/Other tasks to be lifted off it. CPU being able to use MULTI THREADING...This is BIG news for gaming. Direct X eSRAM streaming is pretty advanced and with 16 MB of it they were able to get 6 GB of DDR3...So wait and see for first party.

[Rhythmattic]

opiewinston

As for all the talk of the eSRAM being a major bottleneck ... I agree it's not...
It's actually MS's choice of DDR3 as it shared memory pool that is the "Bottleneck". ....
For this reason alone , the eSRAM is far from that.

[andrewsqual]

"When compared to previous iterations, this a big change in the way DX talks to the GPU. In short this will improve performance across the board for Xbox One games"
Lol "in short"? How about any kind of information how this works at all? How does DX12 allowing better talk to GPUs for the first time ever on Windows Operating Systems have anything to do with "improving performance across the board for Xbox One games"????

[n4gsuxass]

What does it matter if you know how it delivers? Do you think you understanding bares any impact upon whether it works or not?

No quite simply. Although I also prefer information over ignorance, I'm not going to knock MS for keeping the details low. Remember the majority of people either don't care how it works or wouldn't understand most of the technical jargon.

[Prime157]

No, some of us are tired of their amazing pr spinning it to be much better when in reality it's old technology their competition has had for awhile.

Edit: and if you hate n4g that much, why not do the logical thing and NOT type it into your browser, as the internet is much bigger.

[GamingSinceThe80s]

Sounds nice but holiday 2015? 2 years is a long time to wait.I wish they could roll this out a little faster.Why not now?

[jetlian]

more like 18 months and devs just getting it so
how could they use it in such a short amount of time?!

halo 5 ff15 and mgs5:pp should be coming out by then

[Cueil]

It's already available for use internally.you will start to see a significant increase in overall performance in games

[B-radical]

50% CPU reduced is insane!

[Mr-Dude]

Seeing is believing

[ramiuk1]

yeah almost a\s insane as them trying to make people belive that eSRAM was mega powerful and would make it faster than ps4 lol.

and in 18 months ps4 will have widened the gap so far MS will need a new console to compete.
PC's will benefit but not xbone.

Gutted as I Want xbone to succeed but im stuggling to see anything good for it

[thrust]

They have said xbox one supports dx12 so yes it will benefit from it.

[valet_Smerdyakov]

Don't forget da cloudz! They will make xbox 3 times more powerful!

[Kingnichendrix]

Its going to be like their incredible Titan Fall Cloud Ai they boasted about hahahaha

[Jumper09]

Microsoft wasnt reacting to fans with DX12, its a reaction to AMDs Mantle lol

And it wont improve much on Xbone, because the DX12 features are already there on Xbone.

[Convas]

Is that why Intel's been working with Microsoft for years on development of DirectX 12? Why it will work with Haswell?

You guys need to beef up your attacks.

This isn't MS responding to Mantle, this is MS CRUSHING Mantle.

Nvidia confirmed that DX12 will work on Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell and forward. AMD confirmed they will support it with their GPUs as well.

You now have both GPU fabs flying the DX flag again ... and you think, that this was all in reaction to Mantle?

Ahaha! *wipes tears*

[Jumper09]

Yes it was a reaction to mantle... Why wait so long if its already 4 fucking years in development?

Im wiping my tears about your stupid fanboyism that believes everything what microsoft says...

[Obscure_Observer]

@Convas

I desagreed with you mistake (dam you IPad) :/

Gonna give you a bubble to make amends.

Cheers

[Tempest317]

@Convas

HHardly CRUSHING mantle, as this isnt available for nearly another 2 years...mantle is available (granted its limited) today. It really makes more sense that this is a knee jerk response to mantle

[starchild]

Yes, Mantle is available but only on a couple games, and while the gains are nice I get graphical artifacts in Thief and microstuttering, even though my average and minimum framerates improved a lot.

[AnimeFreak013]

Agreed I'm really happy MS is trying hard to improve the X1as I really think it needed a lot of improvements sense it's launch in November and so far they done an amazing job with updates on the system. Now I might just get the X1 as I'm seeing lots of fixes and updates MS is doing to the X1 that I before didn't want to get till my complainments r fixed plus I so want to play DR3 FM5 and KI. BTW yes I own my PS4 and luv it but in terms of features and updates sony has done so far are a little bare bone compared to X1.

[ErickThomas]

What is DX 12 ?

[troylazlow]

Moooooooooore Poooooooower!

[RiPPn]

The fact that Xboners get excited about even the idea of a performance increase is a tell that deep down they know their system is weak sauce.

[SourShoes]

Yes, in terms of software. But where is this dGPU, the secret more powerful chip that a certain live journalist said would be revealed today? Oh no! The MS event is over. He's a liar. Stop believing his bs fanboys. You know who you are.

Edit: Hopefully this will destroy his website's last inkling of credibility to the aforementioned fanboys. Die MisterXmedia

[PSVita]

That guy misterX has serious issues

[nypifisel]

It wont, his followers are as insane and far away from reality as he is. He's been disproved hundreds of times yet these people still believe him, I honestly don't get it :S

[Hawkinst540]

At the moment he is claiming that Albert Penello is lying/wrong about there being no stacked GPU haha

[killzone619]

Nandos chicken burger. BRAP!

[PSVita]

Update 2: Microsoft has confirmed that it will release DX 12 in Holiday 2015.

Holiday 2015!?

[Magicite]

''Microsoft has confirmed that it will release DX 12 in Holiday 2015''.
Lots of things can happen meanwhile.

[fr0sty]

Good to see that XB1 won't be stuck using an inefficient API. Now it's API should be able to code closer to the metal much like PS4 and Mantle. This won't automatically mean you'll start seeing more 1080p games and that sort of thing, but you will see performance increases. More stable frame rates, more enemies on screen due to less CPU overhead, better physics, etc.

Shame it won't be here until almost 2016.

[deadfrag]

Neither will the PS4!Really Fanboys are the worst thing for gaming,all this that Dx12 will probably add to the XBOXONE API will in some form end up in the PS4 API too,in case you fanboys wonder.First the xboxone is not going to run DX12 is going to use some features of DX12 on the Xboxone main API,Microsoft is not writting DX12 for Xboxone like some delusional fanboys are thinking!Second the Ps4 APi can use or be optimize to use various features of other known Api`s librarys like Opengl`s,and in case you people dont know Opengls is going to support all this new features of Dx12 its already confirmed!So go play games,and expect only what can actually be seen,2015 is not next month!

[fr0sty]

The performance increases that this would add to Xbox's API are likely already included in PS4's. Direct X was notorious for having a lot of overhead, and that is what Xbox's API is based on. Hence the name, (Direct)Xbox. However, PS4's was always one similar to mantle/DX12, it offers good low level access already. Not to say both APIs can't and won't improve.

[Eddie20101]

If Directx12 doesn't release until holiday 2015, then its going to be a long time before you see any difference in games for PC and Xbox One, at least 2 years into Xbox One being on the market.

Seems like a premature announcement.

[webeblazing]

is the new nvidia gpu going to be dx12. this says dx12 not coming out for 2yrs

[ITPython]

Wow, it's releasing Holiday of 2015? I thought it was going to be sometime soon, as in 2014.

That's quite a long time before the XB1 gets this boost. I mean crap, the US will already have voted for a new president by Holiday 2015, and it seems like that is a REALLY long time from now.

Makes you wonder if MS was initially planning on launching the XB1 in 2015, as that seems to be when a lot of their AAA exclusive games are releasing as well.

[cell989]

And when it does come out you ain't really getting that 50% boost just like you ain't getting a x10 boost from the cloud. No amount of software magic can cure bad hardware specs

[ArbitorChief]

Fantastic news, DX12 is sounding promising!

[christocolus]

This is great news. I think MS has been planning this all along. The xbx one imo was to be released this year. Great news...i expect Ms 1st and 2nd party would have been working with early versions of DX12 for some time now ..so im guessing we will see some amazing xbx one games at E3..

[PSVita]

Here's go MS with it "Wait for it!..." tag line again...and once again everyone's happy about it and praises MS because they must have planned it all along smh Holiday 2015 lol

I'd say just remember Milo and the kinect promises..

[fr0sty]

It will lead to performance increases, though not like many would like to think. It won't lead to parity with other consoles, for instance. It will lead to fanboys using it as a bullet point in their endless efforts to justify their purchase.

[Eddie20101]

Microsoft planned on having next gen games in 2015, two years after release of the Xbox One console. Even then it will not be better than PS4. PS4 will have improved their Programming API and games will be much better than they can be now.

[christocolus]

@psvita and Eddie

Whats with you guys and the insecurity? Did i mention the ps4 once in my comment? And what does milo and kate have to do with Ms Dx12? I am referring to the xbx one as the article is obviously about it..so whats with the ps4 will be better talk about?...damn. Did i even mention the PS4?..and so you know eddie if by 2015 xbx one games look way better than Quantum break then that would be a huge step up one that i believe every xbx fan will be very happy about.....you guys are a very weird bunch though...you do the weirdest things.

[PSVita]

"And what does milo and kate have to do with Ms Dx12?"

It's one of the small examples of how they baited their Xbox audience again and again with false promises of things that would get better over time. Are people really excited to wait until late 2015 for something that it should have been released with?

And the PS4 is relevant because even with DX12 on the Xbox it'll still have more power and that's not including the improvements the are sure to come on the software side.

If all else fail maybe MS will just make everyone's XB1 600% more powerful with the cloud..

[Eddie20101]

@Christoculus

Not Insecure at all, Just stating common sense.

[Iluvtrim]

Sweet

[infectedaztec]

NO WAY! SERIOUSLY NO WAY!......really?

I'm no tech head so this seems like black magic to me.

If its true then its massive news.....groundbreaking....gam e changing....

[Eonjay]

It basically means that framerates can be boosted.

[4logpc]

That is not what it means at all.

[Eonjay]

@4logpc

Yes it does. People think that its the GPU that holds back the Xbox One. They are wrong. They Xbox GPU is more than capable of doing 1080p @60Hz. The problem is a bottlenecked CPU that can't keep up with the GPU. With DX12, the GPU wont spend time idling while it waits for the CPU. This will boost framerates.

What did Mantle boost on AMD chips? Framerates.

[4logpc]

@eonjay

Sorry but you are so wrong it hurts.

[GarrusVakarian]

The CPU bottlenecks the GPU? Huh? That's the first time ive ever heard that. I thought the ESRAM was the bottleneck?

The way ive had it explained to me before is that the GPU with the ESRAM band-aid is the bottleneck.

[Eonjay]

@4logpc.

I'm not trolling or trying to downplay anything. This is great news but people want to know what it means and I actually understand it. Can you tell me what you think it mean? Maybe I am missing something but I do know that if you boost the efficiency of a CPU, it increase framerates because you spend less time waiting on the CPU to complete a frame.

@Lukas_Japonicus

The CPU bottlenecks framerates.
The ESram bottlenecks resolution.

[Dewitt]

Eonjay is correct, the ESRAM is there to improve the throughput to the CPU which reduces idle. If you can get them closer to same level with less idle it will indeed increase the performance across the board. By their numbers it looked like between 20-30% boost for lower level APUs.

[SourShoes]

http://i.imgur.com/N3iMLE1....

[CoLD FiRE]

Eonjay is right about the CPU bottlenecking the GPU yet everyone disagrees with him and agrees with Lukas who apparently has never heard of a CPU bottlenecking a GPU.

A CPU bottleneck is a known issue when it comes to balancing a system. Imagine running a Titan with a Celeron then run the same GPU with an i7-4770k. Do you honestly think it's gonna perform the same in both situations?

[Drewidian]

You have to understand that part of the reason the Xbox one is having performance issues is the architecture of the operating systems. There's a virtualization/hardware abstraction layer and then on top of that there's the OS for the games and the Windows 8 styled OS interface for apps. Part of the problem (I believe) with this model is that the games have to essentially process through an emulator/translator to talk to the hardware. Direct X12 seems to have allowed a more direct/efficient/optimized method of talking to the graphics and CPU hardware. It could prove to be very promising for future games.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

As a tech head I'll tell you this is more of a boon to PCs than the X1. regardless of how good Dx12 is, it won't sufficiently boon the X1 to make up for it's hardware being extremely average.

[n4rc]

Sweet..

[Volkama]

Just stick pictures of Microsoft's slides up next time. It's better to see this information in the context it was delivered.

[stragomccloud]

This also greatly benefits PC gamers as well. We have AMD and their Mantle API to thank for this. They really gave the industry a shove in the pants.

Good on you!

[koliosis]

Omg omg omg omg

[Eonjay]

More than anything else this will improve framerate.

[user9597082]

Fine by me. 720p at 60fps is a far better and noticeable difference than 1080p with a lower framerate.

[Eonjay]

Agreed. Also think back to Tomb Raider. With this kind of boost it MAY have been able to boost the same framerate as the PS4 version. So this doesn't just apply to 720p games. It can boost the efficiency at any resolution.

[rdgneoz3]

60 fps is only needed for twitch gameplay like FPS or an arcade fighter. You don't need 60 fps for an RPG or such.

[user9597082]

Nobody needs 60fps but unlike in film, higher framerates make video games look great.
For me it has nothing to do with technical gaming aspects. The aesthetic is phenomenal when you get that fluid motion.

[Gamer666]

Agreed. I played MGS Ground Zeros on my 360 and X1 yesterday.

The slower frame rate really stood out. Graphically I could also see differences but they didn't affect gameplay as much as frame rate did.

[Convas]

"But but but, Xbone won't really support DX12."

Heh. E3's going to be terribly, beautifully, woefully entertaining.

Edit: In case folk are missing the sarcasm.

[Angeljuice]

"DX 12 launches Holiday 2015"

Which E3 are you talking about? 2016?

[maniacmayhem]

For third party devs I'm guessing DX12 will be available for them for their 2015-16 games.

I'm sure first party games are already using this and will be showing it off at this years E3.

[stuna1]

Ha ha Anglejuice you shut Convas down in the middle of his killstreak! LMFO

By the time this rolls out PS4 tools will up and running with a 100% performance increase across the boards, so in laymen terms; the boast that the Xbox1 will get will then be to little too late, and the technologically gap will still be present!

[Convas]

Because there's no way that MS hasn't given their 1st/2nd party developers early access to DirectX 12 tools and there's no way the games announced @ E3 2014 and E3 2015 won't show some of the benefits, right?

SMH

[PSVita]

If it were ready why would they just give it to there first party studios??

[crusf]

Sarcasm does not translate well in text.

[christocolus]

@convas

You should stop arguing with these guys... at the conference it was revealed that turn 10 used dx12 to port an xbx one game...that alone should prove to these naysayers that MS 1st party studios have a version of the api up and running already...dont know why its so hard to understand that...if the api is actually able to reduce cpu over head and reduce dev time as seen with the forza 5 presentation then i expect Remedy,343i, BT, lionhead , Rare and all the other 1st and 2nd party devs would have since upgraded their sdks..

[jetlian]

what people are really missing is the games using it will hit in 2015 not the tools themselves.

they have 18 months to re adjust games for it. Halo 5, ff15 and hopefully mgs5 will be using it.

Games coming this year are too close to take advantage of it

[crusf]

I own a Ps4 and not an Xbox one. But I am happy that microsoft is improving the Xbox one cant wait to get one soon:D

[infectedaztec]

The stronger one gets, the other will have to keep up. When XB raises its game it indirectly benefits PS gamers and vice versa because it gives the other company a kick up the backside.

The graphical arm race is one that gamers benefit from.

As a side note....if MS follow through with their cloud claims (like it appears they have done with their DX12 claims) then the XB1 will be a monster

[rdgneoz3]

Competition is always good for the consumer. However, don't bring up the cloud... TF is using the Asure servers and it's still only 792p with 6v6. The cloud is just a fancy new word for dedicated servers, it's not gonna make everything 1080p.

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Not believing a word until we see it in action.

After all the flip flopping and lying and bogus PR on doing this and that and not delivering on much at all it's just better to wait and see.

Microsofts likes to shout from the mountains a lot

[4logpc]

Because Microsoft would do a 180 on their graphics API...

That makes zero sense.

[aragon]

lol well said

[zebramocha]

I think xRe meant they way dx12 has been talked about by Ms or people very fond of Ms made it seem like dx12 will put it on the same footing as the ps4 and he wants to see the affects of it or they should stop speaking about it.

[jXales]

or they could be spouting theoretical figures instead of triad, proven and/or stable ones.

like the guy said, seeing is believing.

[Pudge88]

@ 4LOGPC....Yea because microsoft is pro consumers right? because they do what we the gamers want right? i want an Xbone but they havent been reliable at all. Bring in the disagrees haters

[maniacmayhem]

@Pudge88

Well they reversed a lot of policies that a lot of games and devs were complaining about so yea...they are also addressing the resolution/framerate problem, they are giving the X1 a lot of exclusives and indie support...so yea..they are doing what the gamers want.

[Nero1314]

When did they lie ? Sony lie a lot more than ms

[BlitzKriegBOOM]

and here come the doubters...

[valet_Smerdyakov]

and here come the gullible kids...

[BlitzKriegBOOM]

i dont recall you being a software developer.

[akaFullMetal]

We will have to wait and see the games, but hopefully it will help with the Esram, and hopefully get 1080p games to be the norm on X1.

[pwnsause_returns]

ok, now i want to see it to believe it

[Godz Kastro]

Wow... cool

[Julion0715]

I wonder if the guys above thats doubting ms do yall even own an x1? If not then why are you here serious question

[bleedsoe9mm]

proof is in the pudding

[AutoCad]

I wonder if Microsoft studios already have access to this..
Cant wait to see what Halo 5 going to look like

[xx4xx]

Those questions will be answered at E3....or sooner.

[GodGinrai]

I believe so.

[Manic2014]

They stated dev's already have access to the tools, but the games releasing holiday 2015 will show the improvement.

[lets_go_gunners]

Someone asked Phil Spencer if games were gonna be shown running on DX12 on twitter. and he responded something along the lines of..we have to check the current builds to see if they're ready or not...SO yeah. Early Access or Dx12 is coming later this year so it should be a interesting e3 to say the least.

[JCOLE13195]

Fantastic news! I'm really looking forward to what improvements this will bring.

[valet_Smerdyakov]

This will bring very little too late. Similar desperate marketing trick like "the cloud".

[AngelicIceDiamond]

DX 12 Will Improve Xbox One Games' Performance, Reduces CPU Utilization By 50%

What does that mean game wise?

[AutoCad]

Awesome games.

[Eonjay]

It means better framerates. it means that the CPU can complete tasks needed faster. But people don't understand this because they don't understand what a CPU does vs a GPU.

A GPU draws the graphics.
A CPU calculates (computes) things like physics AI etc.

The more efficient a CPU is, the less it bottlenecks the system because you spend less time per frame waiting for it to calculate things.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Hmm, well it'll use half the resources the CPU usually uses. That being said, games are generally GPU intensive. Really it depends on how the dev programs the game. (i.e. Borderlands 2 is CPU intensive, whereas Witcher 2 is GPU intensive).

This is a good thing regardless, but I feel like in terms of Hardware itself, it won't mean much. Simply put, the PS4 and X1 spec-wise just aren't good enough to fully take advantage of this sort of thing. PCs on the other hand, major + for them.

[xx4xx]

Oh snap!!!!

Combine this with the power of the almighty cloud and we'll have insane graphics.

OK. A little heavy on the sarcasm....but this pretty exciting news (in all seriousness).

Excited to see it in action.

[bleedsoe9mm]

people laugh at all the cloud talk and rightly so , but i don't think titanfall would have launched that smoothly on EA or sony servers .

[Elit3Nick]

I saw yesterday an article saying that EA servers would go down for maintenance, and I laughed when it said that Titanfall on X1 wouldn't be affected XD

[sandman224]

I don't get it. Will this be something you add on to your console by physical form or will it be an update that you download and install?

[AutoCad]

Software Update.
No hardware required.

[4logpc]

It is all code based. Meaning games in the future will be able to utilize it.

[Windy999]

Xbox one will become more powerful when directx 12 games start getting launched. It may not be a huge increase but it will be a noticeable difference especially to frame rates.
It will also help close the gap between the PS4 graphics.

[Undini]

Will help what? You think only Xbox is the only console getting better software to increase performance..... Just think about it.

[Windy999]

Xbox one is the only one that is improving at this point in time, obviously the PS4 will get more powerful as well. It will be a constant battle as the fight for superiority. The PS4 has better graphics for now but Microsoft is closing the gap for now and will continue to do so.

[andrewsqual]

@Windy999 Are you absolutely kidding??? The company that haven't done anything to come close to beating games last gen like Infamous, Killzone God of War, Uncharted: are now "closing the gap" with nothing to back it up whatsoever???
What are you people smoking here? If they are so confident why don't they show us a demo running on Xbone at 1080p like the Killzone and Infamous next gen trailers shown back on 20th Feb 2013 by Sony. Think about that for just a second because this is something Microsoft have yet to do to date.

[Windy999]

Why would they want to share all the detail now. Why not create a hype and then realise some more info at E3 with games that are coming out too. Thats the time to really show it off as it will be proved thus by the games.
Why would they take PS4 games and showcase them on the Xbox One that would just be plane stupid.
The PS4 has the more power behind it but its all hardware and no software where as Microsoft went Software with hardware. Xbox's hardware may not be the best but its the software and the tools that can set a game and a console apart from its competitors just like the hardware can do as well.

[imt558]

Xbone will improve, PS4 will stagnate!!

Bravo, Windy!!!!

http://blog.us.playstation....

Sony use their own API :

GNM - Low Level API

GNMX - Wrapper API

PSSL - Shader Language ( beyond DX11.2/OpenGL 4.4 level, )

PSSL was Sony's new slate on it's graphics API tech, which support all the latest graphic API standard with some set features exclusive to PS4.

[quenomamen]

Guess developing a new VR device is stagnation while putting out a new SDK is revolutionary. Lol , thats some logic you got there hoss.

[CR7JUVE1897]

This is certainly good news.

[Julion0715]

Ms said all along this is a marathon not a sprint things will get better on both systems, its jus funny when ms say anything no one believes it they need links twitter accounts insiders but as soon as sony say something its the god truth jus stop it

[MasterCornholio]

That would be Sony.

"Fergal Gara: This format war, if you want to call it that, is a marathon, not a sprint. We're coming out of the blocks in a strong position, but we're conscious that is no-where close to job done, and we have to continually improve the proposition, proving what PS4 represents."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[MasterCornholio]

This is just an update to their API.

Which is pretty cool because that means performance in games will get better. But honestly this is something that happens to all APIs so i expect the same to happen to the Wii U and the PS4.

[jhoward585]

I want to see a demonstration of DX 12 Before I get myself excited.

Hope this isn't another secret sauce story.

[XboxFun]

Wait this cant be true! According to the many developers and hardware experts here on N4G dx12 will do absolutly do nothing for the Xbox One.

I know, this must be all smoke and mirrors made by the illuminati known as MS to trick everyone right sony brigade?

This is the difference between sony and MS. Sony went with raw hardware to make it look good on paper. MS went with software, improved api's to make a low spec machine work just as well as the "50%" more powerful one.

E3 is going to be interesting and once dx12 gets in the hands of the devs and games start looking better than ps4 I expect full spin and excuses from this site as usual.

the ammo is getting lower and lower....soon you guys will have to start using sticks.

[CR7JUVE1897]

Because Sony will just sit idly by and not make any improvements to their development software by the time DX12 comes out more than 18 months from now?

[Majin-vegeta]

*
E3 is going to be interesting and once dx12 gets in the hands of the devs and games start looking better than ps4 I expect full spin and excuses from this site as usual.

Lol oh god pls stop just stop.While I have no idea what the hell DX 12 does.The fact that you think that games will look better on X1 just makes look like a fool.

ND,SM would like to have a word with you about "BETTER LOOKING GAMES".

Like LuvBurger said.Sony isn't gonna sit around twiddling their thumbs.Wish you people would do some research before spouting off lame hypothesis.

[JCOLE13195]

Damn Holiday 2015? I was hoping it would be utilized sooner for upcoming games =\

[Manic2014]

The games which will be releasing in holiday 2015 will show the improvements, the devs have access to the tools right now.

[yarbie1000]

They said preview coming later this year and early access. Forza has had it apparently 4 months since it took them 4 months to convert XB1DX11 to 12. So it's possible the preview everyone will see of DX12 will be on XB1 this year

[Duke19]

Hard to say what real world effect that will have with games, but definitely good to see some solid updates coming for M$ - should help to reduce the lead the PS4 has in the graphics department.

Would be nice to talk about the games on either system, not just which system performs at X resolution/fps.

[curtis92]

Well that sounds awesome. I had my doubts about what Dx12 could do but this sounds promising.

[kewlkat007]

Im no developer..so for the most part too many big words about DX12 to understand

[UsUcK]

Awesome news.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

so Dx12 will have some affect. but the experts at n4g said it wouldnt

[imt558]

So, you are an expert and DX12 will bring some benefits?

[Gr1mmyshadows]

uhhh did you not see the conference???

[GearsOfWar]

@imt558

He's not..

But the ones who just held a conference on directx12 are..

.-.

[RedDeadLB]

I'm impressed with what we've been shown (or told to be exact). Looking forward to DX12 on PC.

[aerisbueller]

"Update 2: Microsoft has confirmed that it will release DX 12 in Holiday 2015."
Nice, in almost 2 years XBox one will get a much needed fps boost.

[Elit3Nick]

Xbox will get these features sooner since they just need to make DX12 work with its hardware, which remains static, with pc they need to make sure it works with all those different GPUs.

[aerisbueller]

you just make stuff up as you go along and other xbox one hopemongers automatically agree? Literally, the main reason for DirectX is you don't have to make sure it works with every piece of hardware

[Elit3Nick]

No the point of directX is to allow people easier and more efficient access a system's performance, if they released DX12 right away without optimizing it you could bet that it would be broken.

[Brim]

come on bro use ur head

[MCTJim]

This and coupled with the granite SDK will finally show why they went with ESRAM and why they set up the hardware the way it is. Lots of unknowns about the chips et if anyone bother to read the Digital Foundry breakdown. Personally, to me, this is how the final build of the X1 hardware and software was supposed to be. MS launched a year early to compete with Sony. So I guess we are no longer beta testers.

[cfc78]

Awesome news keep it going with great updates and games then drop some heavyweight nukes at E3 and i'll be very happy with the purchase of my X1, 2014's looking great.

[Saito]

Hope for my Xbox side! Though, I'll doubt it'll keep up with PS side. My playing ratio on both is about 70-30 at the moment.

[ape007]

good stuff, yes that is what we all want, EFFICIENCY, we don't want lazy devs waste all resources....cough cod ghosts cough

[HacSawJimThugin]

This great news. MS has a multi year plan in place for the X1 and I'm enjoying watching it play out. This is just a drop in the bucket, E3 will see the flood gates opened and gaming goodness will flood Xbox with awesome sauce.

[CR7JUVE1897]

Wait. Holiday 2015?

Meaning that we won't see games utilizing this until Spring of 2016.

That's all well and good but it would be wrong to say that Sony wouldn't have updates to their development kits as well by that time.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

where are you getting spring of 2016 from?

im sure games will be ready to utilize this by the time DX12 comes out

[CR7JUVE1897]

I would assume that you would have to develop a game ona platform that would already have DX12 embedded into the system.

How would you develop a game that utilizes DX12 technology if it is not available on that system?

If it comes out Holiday 2015, I would think that is when the development of the title utizlizing it would START once it is in place.

Therefore, my assupmtion that we won't see fully developed games using being released until spring of 2016.

[ElementX]

They also mentioned "early access" which could mean anything.

[stuna1]

On PC's! They also said that the Xbox1 also had some of the feature of DX12 already on board, but the rest of the feature set won't roll out until the ending of 2015.

They said it in the live blog! I understand people have their hopes up, but common sense dictates if the Xbox1 was able to utilize the full feature set, why give a release date of the ending of 2015!? If anything DX12 will be more beneficial to PC's then the Xbox1, like it's always been! And because of that, it's more the reason why early access was pertaining to its PC application.

[ElementX]

I own a gaming PC, PS4, and Xbox One. I don't have my hopes up because I can play any game I want pretty much.

[Manic2014]

If you read the source, the games releasing holiday 2015 will be utilising DX12.

[maniacmayhem]

I'm sure they are referring to 3rd party developers and even then they can sign up for early access to DX12.

But it is for certain that the 1st party devs are using this.

I would even say that Sunset Overdrive might be using this too. I remember a quote from Phil saying something like he saw the latest build of it and the graphics improved tremendously. Makes me now wonder if those guys have it since we have seen absolutely nothing of that game.

[CR7JUVE1897]

So if that is the case, then when do you think that we will start seein Xbox one games with DX12?

If developers for the platform can get early access to it, then are we talking about during the 2015 holdiay season? Earlier?

I'm getting confused now.

It's time for me to take a lunch break and play some Titanfall while watching Juventus-Fiorentina in the Europa League.

The benefits of working from home.

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

"Unless MS planned ahead and got DX12 functionality in the GPU of the XB1, that'd mean that DX12 would purely be a software upgrade and wouldn't necessitate new hardware.
Either that or it's a half-truth and the XB1 will only support certain parts of DX12 like how Windows 7 supports about half the new features in DX11.2"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Gam...

[stiggs]

@TheGreatAndPowerful

It said that on Reddit?

It must be true. /s

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

Truth hurts doesn't it little buddy.

[stiggs]

@TheGreatAndPowerful

Hurts what? How does the quoted text in your comment "hurt"?

I suppose if I was an immature child that has an unhealthy attachment to a a piece of silicon and plastic then your comment might be distressing.

I'm an adult who couldn't care less about proclaiming my allegiance to a specific console maker. Your assumption that my feelings are hurt because I'm a "XBOX fanboy" only serves to expose your own infantile mindset.

I don't even own a XBOX One. I was just pointing out that it's not a good idea to rely on quotes from Reddit as they typically hold no weight or relevancy.

Now go play outside you mischievous little scamp.

[urwifeminder]

Extended battery life for mobile devices is big news, well done MS working with the industry leaders Intel ,Amd, Nvidia to help improve tech and the future of the industry all working with the same tools.

[mark3214uk]

the problem is you guys dont get that the x1 needs boosting with drx12 and cloud to be on par with the ps4 it wont make it better just the same,if what ms says is true

[antikbaka]

Hello "powaah oh da kloud tooo"

[Jumper09]

Kinda funny how Xbone fans think now that DX12 will make the Xbone more powerful or even as powerful as the PS4.

Most of them never heard about DirectX before and now they hype it up as the new savior.
The weak GPU and awful Memory Setup wont change with DX12.

Btw Xbone already uses most of the DX12 features...

[fossilfern]

This is good news I had a feeling this would happen. Makes my decision for going XBO even sweeter though to be honest I didn't care what resolution each versions are because If i cared I would get the game PC.

Regardless of all the haters on here and around the rest of the web the XBO is a nice machine, and this is coming from someone who thought the 360 was a poorly built machine and didnt care for it much.

[cruzngta]

2 years is a long time. Earlier today Sony released info about optimization kits of their own. By the time MS gets this going Sony will be even further ahead because of their own improvements and their inherently stronger hardware. A good step for MS but too little too late.

[hello12]

Developers have already got the directx12 drivers it was announced during the conference. Early access starts this year. Full release holiday 2015

Some questions still remain unanswered from that conference for me. The directx12 will improve the x box 1 how much remains to be seen?

[cruzngta]

2 phrase it correctly '2 years of simmering the sauce in the pot b4 actual use.'

[corvusmd]

Nice, sounds like great things are in the pipeline. Does anyone know if DX 12 will also incorporate the tiled resources of DX 11.2? If so, that could be a HUGE game changer. 50% more efficient CPU AND allowing the Ram to instantaneously control 6gb worth of textures with 32mb of RAM/eSRAM...good lord that would be a HUGE boost to gaming...although if that was the case I'm sure they would have said that by now. (And NO, I'm not getting that from MisterX...I don't listen to ANY of those "insiders" as they always seem to be wrong...I don't know why fanboys always assume that people listen to him about that junk, I heard it straight from the devs...see link attached. I got it from a board, cause it had a good layman description, but the source links are there).

http://www.ign.com/boards/t...

@cuzngta I get what you are saying about it taking so long, but the small catch there is that unless Sony does another large optimization, the XB1 opt will leap right past it (not to mention that XB1 has been and still can make other optimizations...they aren't limited to waiting for this one).

[cruzngta]

In any case this console war is going to be very interesting and in the end the gamers win. Glad I have both systems and I love them both for what they are. Nice to know MS and Sony are doing things to make them better over time.

[chand93]

Xbox 2 will be out by then ,i'm in the cloud.

[dragonyght]

"Microsoft has confirmed that it will release DX 12 in Holiday 2015"
So we will not see any these improvement on Xbox one till What 2017 thats kinda a very long way off. lol they better hope their competitor gonna just sit there and not doing any improvement on their own during those time cause that suck for MS if the do

[nate254]

Ummm how about we will see improvements in 2015?? I don't know where the heck you came up with 2017. By the time it releases they will have it optimized (DX12) and good to go.

[josephayal]

Powerful, Powerful Machine

[feraldrgn]

2015? So you have to wait a whole year or more just to compete with the other next gen console?
Not to mention it hasn't been seen in practice yet, so will it make the difference?

[fossilfern]

"just to compete with the other next gen console"

its already competing.

[hollabox]

Maybe Konami can stop being lazy and at least move MG 5 PT up to 900P! 720P just seem a bit low for game made with last gen specs in mind. Konami has twice as many cores, 3 times the bandwidth, 10 times the usable ram, over 5 times floating point performance, and over 3 times the triangle output as the X360. And the best they could do was 720P at 60 rather then X360 30? To top it off MG5 GZ can be beaten in 6 minutes! What the hell Konami?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Definitely seems like this is going to be a nice boost for the Xbox One developers and games but its a bit of a ways out (unless they push this to Xbox One devs earlier) so I don't see immediate impact happening.

[Father__Merrin]

couple more years yet?

[Gamer-40]

Ooopps...
That is a significant boost.

[bleedsoe9mm]

targeting holiday 2015 games , sounds like gears of war might be the first to take full advantage of this

[cyber_daemonx]

More secret sauce eh.

SMH.

[ExitToExisT]

If this is true.. I hope Dead Rising 3 will be updated to be 1080p.

[cyclindk]

Amazing, this along with the limitless cloud power, increasingly reduced resource cost of kinect according to Rare, esram secret slasa <insert pictures of clouds and soy sauce> The X1 is now unstoppable!

[OsirisBlack]

Sorry Microsoft but I do not believe you.

[ThePandaMaster]

Sony will improve all there tools as well so don't think this means X1 will become comparable to Ps4. Good news for devs and multiplatform games though(X1 Exclusives also).

Can't wait till about 2015-2016(maybe longer) when the real power of these systems will be shown :D.

Also I hope this comes to windows 7.... I would hate to have to use 8 :/.

[DC777]

Holiday 2015??? So there is really no point in this announcement right now. Retarded let down.

[solidt12]

50% no way. it might actually increase CPU utilization by 5%

[MannGamer]

Alright good news for me who might consider the Xbox One in 2016.
On 2016 Xbox will be more relevant with more kinect support and a price cut

[AnotherGamer117]

So Holiday 2015. How long before developers can fully implement this into the Xbox One games?

[mochachino]

MS should win an award for it's ability to constantly dangle new carrots for the mules to follow.

End of 2015, well that's a lot of time to actually make their BS possibly come true but MS has no problem promising and never delivering. As long as the fans have false hope they're happy with the sales.

4x more power due to the cloud, wait and see.

Kinect lag free, wait and see

50% more CPU power, wait and see.

[TristanPR77]

Don't forget that Microsoft also said that there was no differences in power between the PS4 and xbone. They lied but it worked because their mules believed that.

Then also was the 8% increase on the cpu with the same promise of increased performance and what happened? Lies.

They keep their fanboys feeder with dreams, lies and false hopes but xbone fans are very good at swallowing that.

[jules]

kinda like greatness awaits....

[killzone619]

well MS said there was no way they would allow a 30% power advantage to ps4. lets see how that turns out...

[TristanPR77]

Sadly for xbone, DX12 cannot magically make the console as powerful or fast as the PS4 so they will still be behind the PS4.

[russo121]

All I can say is: Dreaming is very good...
By now xboners can dream. By then they will cry.
Why 2015? It comes to my mind that this date will coincide with windows xxx.xx launch, or, at that time people has already forgotten this "supapower"!!!!

http://images.anandtech.com... extracted from http://www.anandtech.com/sh...
This is a good comparison to Mantle as it helps the processor with drawing calls.
We can see from the figure above that weaker cpus have more gains than powerful ones. The same applies here as the xbone cpu has underperformance values compared to ps4.

Edit: Yes, it's here for non believers http://www.cinemablend.com/...

[aLiEnViSiToR]

In 2016 with Proper Win9 + DX12 = Gamers Heaven :D

[1nsomniac]

Although I understand that MS are saying themselves that this will be completely different to previous iterations of DX & will show significant improved performance.

Lets not forget that MS has also on every single iteration of DX claimed that each version would show significant performance increases & factually (you can research yourself if you question it) DX even since the very beginning has NEVER & I mean EVER increased performance!

Although I believe with Mantel gaining support MS will have to follow through with this promise this time around. It still does not exclude the fact that they have claimed this & lied on every single release of DX to date. So lets just wait & see despite the fact that there is almost 2 years until it will be released. Which again leads me to believe that what they have said has been completely pulled out of the imaginary ether as there is absolutely no way they have a working prototype or even a set plan if we are still 2 years away from seeing it!

[windblowsagain]

Anyone who thinks this will come to Windows 7 is in denial.

MS wants to sell 8.1 etc.

[1nsomniac]

They tried this with Windows Vista & DX10 though.

Once it was proven & published that MS was lying & the added features were completely accessible with no limitations through Windows XP they apologised & pulled another complete 180' - as usual!

Even with how stupid they think the general population is I don't think Win XP & DX10 fiasco was that long ago that people would of forgotten already. After all it was only a couple of years ago.

They'll obviously try but I don't think they'll push it to hard.

[TruthfullySO]

Just a heads up for you guys, DX12 isn't meant for current tech like XBONE/ or current apu,SoC type architecture not saying the xbone or other tech wont benefit. The changes to the program set are for memory allocation changes, and rendering commands particularly for spread spectrum on logical gpu/cpu sets with multiple cores. Allowing for greater throughput, efficiently and predictability in processing. This will affect any devices with programmable pipelines that support DX11.
The only thing about the xbone is the conflicts within the pipeline when throughput is already about maxed out, leaves little room for the cpu/gpu to dump/fetch instructions from the pipeline, my guess this is where it will benefit the xbone the most. Making it easier to dump/fetch data for new instructions. PS4 eliminated this problem with using a shared programmable pipeline, so CPU/GPU can dump/fetch accordingly, while also using the instruction set without having to duplicate it like in the classic cpu/gpu setup, that was the importance of DDR5 memory in the PS4 architecture.

PC's will benefit the most with the iteration of DDR4 next year. My guess is this is Microsoft preparation for implementing ddr4 into its server systems, which will benefit from the doubling of memory bandwidth and improved allocation tables.
DDR4 is the memory solution for single chip solutions in the future because they allow independent programming of individual DRAMS, which greatly improves individual program performance.

Sorry for typing so much just trying help people get a better understanding.

[Master-Tonberry]

Both the Xbox One and the PS4 will continue to steadily improve just as all consoles have in the past. The PS4 has more powerful hardware and is already using a Mantle like low level API, at best DX12 will just make it easier for third party dev's to get parity with multi-platform titles.

As for PC if DX12 is anything like Mantle it will only be of real benefit to those with lower end CPU's.

[mmj]

Even with DX12 Xbone is not going to get remotely close to PS4 performance, the hardware it requires just doesn't physically exist inside the console. The day Xbone is able to match PS4 performance (excluding games held back on PS4) is the day I will stop calling witchcraft BS.

[pornflakes]

The PS3 has also 40% more power compared to the 360.

But there are nearly no differences.

You dont need only raw power to programm games.

DX is the most used API. For future games, using DX12 devs will easily be able to port games to XONE.

[clerigo]

"there are nearly no differences"
Are you sure?
Uncharted and The Last of Us, clearly proved the difference between 360 and PS3 power!

But I agree that the difference between XBone and PS4 is even Bigger!

[kakashi81]

After the update I assume tomb raider will be 1080p at 60fps?

[jmxxii]

Smoke and Mirrors

[jairusmonillas]

Holiday 2015 lol

[lepedro]

that cool but we have to wait until holiday 2015 almost two years

[SITH]

Nice Microsoft. I still say the Xbox one should have had 8gb of GDDR5 like the ps4, but if this utilization pans out Xbox one will perform perfectly.

[kakashi81]

Other than easy ports from pc to xbox, what other features the DX12 can do? Better bump mapping and anti-aliasing? Please someone explain.

[Pandamobile]

Performance.

[tudors]

This is more than possible, I have a PC with 2GB Radeon HD 7790 GDDR5, 8GB 16mhz RAM, 7200rpm HD and the CPU is a Quad core AMD athlon X4 740 3.2-3.7mhz, any Tech guys here will tell you that my bottleneck would be the CPU yet when I use 'AMD Gaming evolved' to optimize my games I can run Battlefield 4 at higher resolutions than both the PS4 and the Xbox 1, so explain that, and yes it also looks better than both.

[ElementX]

MHz, don't you mean GHz on the CPU and wtf is 16mhz RAM? LOL

[tudors]

Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz DDR3

Does that help! and regards the CPU MHZ that's called a typo mate, I can admit that, but the fact that you don't understand ram speeds makes you look a idiot for trying to educate me.

If you were not being cocky then my apologies.

[tudors]

I can't really run BF4 on a 3.7mhz CPU lol ;)

[ElementX]

I was being cocky. 16mhz isn't 1600mhz. I understand RAM speed

[tudors]

Oh whoops another typo! big deal, get over it, you know what I meant, but at least you can admit to being a cocky little *hit

[larrysdirtydrawss]

infectedaztec + 15h ago
NO WAY! SERIOUSLY NO WAY!......really?

I'm no tech head so this seems like black magic to me.

If its true then its massive news.....groundbreaking....gam e changing....

graphics wont improve too much,ps4 sdk/tools can/will do the same things in their own way,this is how it always goes. xone is trying to get to a efficiency level that the ps4 is already at...sony will have their own improved tricks in software/tools by than,and ms will be trying to catch up once more... of course ms can never do anything to catch up to the monster sized difference in fixed hardware specs(the main reason theres huge difference in multiplat games and why 1st party open world games like infamous looks better than anything xone has,again,its open world)

[kryteris]

"announced that DX 12 will improve performance of game’s on the Xbox One"

This is all that was said in regards to the X1. So pretty much nothing, and DirectX has little to do with the api that runs on consoles. Yes, they are different. The DirectX 12 reveal, was them saying that we can do Mantle on PC too. Or we must, or its game over for us but we will gladly give ourselves a deadline of late 2015! (and exclude pre-GCN Radeon hardware) *Mantle will most likely be available to the masses sometime after April, good luck MS.

[tudors]

"Mantle will most likely be available to the masses sometime after April" when you say masses do you mean for developer use of public? because I am already using mantle.

[Masta Kaos]

2015...??? Another Milo.....

[ARESWARLORD]

CPU does not matter much in newer games. You need a Monster GPU and the world is yours when you build a PC.

[Golden_Mud]

well the CPU is needed if u want to create a world where 1000 players share the same servers .

[JOEgolferG]

Might improve graphics but I won't believe it until I see it, remember all the talk about the cloud???? At the end of the day it still won't catch the PS4 up performance wise and that's a fact!

[TimeSkipLuffy]

Then 2015 will be a good year to buy the X1 as a second home console. By then there should be some exclusives games released that I want to play and the X1 should be cheaper as well.

It is still the same GPU. Optimaization to utilize the GPU can be done by both. Sony and MS. But you can't replace the hardware without releasing a new console ^^

[hobbitooo]

it is too little too late by 2015....
the war is already lost for xbox by then

[Gamerita]

they make awful hardware then surround it with useless news like this all the time trying to patch the xbone image.

talk about desperate.

[clerigo]

First it was the CLOUDzzzzz !
Now is the DX12zzzzz !
What will be the next MIRACLEzzzzz???

Here's a burst of reality:

XBone GPU:
1.18 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
768 Shaders
48 Texture units
16 ROPS
2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4 GPU:
1.84TF GPU (18 CUs) for games + 56%
1152 Shaders +50%
72 Texture units +50%
32 ROPS + 100%
8 ACE/64 queues +300%

As you can see quite clearly, the PS4's GPU had 50% more power than the XBone GPU.
This explains why the majority of the multiplatform games are running at 720p at XBone and 1080p at PS4 (50% more resolution).

PS4 have a stronger GPU but it also has a faster CPU to match:
PS4 CPU actually runs at 2Ghz and produce 14 MB/s of textures, versus 12 MB/s textures for the XBone 1.6Ghz CPU (overclocked to 1,75Ghz).

The PS4's CPU is 15% faster than the XBone CPU (you can comprove this in the benchmark tests made):

Even more than this, the PS4 has a lot faster system and graphics memory, sporting 8GB of GDDR5 (V)RAM where-as the Xbox One uses older 8GB of DDR3 RAM.

Against pure power... there are no arguments!
DX12???
lol

[parentsbasement]

Nowhere in the title of this article is Sony mentioned , so why do they rush in on EVERY MS article ? ....man , talk about needing reassured your winkie is still big enough.....it is ok ?.....PS4 is great (I got one ) but maybe Xbox one is great to (it is, I got one )....and if they can make it better WTF do you care ? dosent effect Sony only people one bit imo.....hell, I want them both to get better , shouldnt everybody?

[Jojo0903]

Kind of off topic but if people can tell the differences in resolution so easily why did it take so long for it to come out that multiplayer in kill zone runs lower than 1080p? People played for months and couldn't tell the difference.

[Keregan]

Except for the resolution debate, Xbox one is already better at everything else than the PS4. With the Dx12 implementation, xbox will deliver full hd games....so we will be back at the same old same which is what game you prefer that's it.