Doom 4 Beta Access Comes With Wolfenstein: The New Order Pre-Order

Pre-order Wolfenstein: The New Order and you will get access to the Doom beta.

[sigfredod]

Ok so DOOM could be the: "Series of Massive Significance" to be Finally Confirmed Next Month for Sony's New console? OPM cover?

[4logpc]

I was thinking of the same thing, but I feel like they are talking about Crash that has been rumored for awhile now.

[TWB]

After reading this though DOOM makes much more sense.

Last words about crash from activision were "crash license isnt going anywhere". Ofcourse they could have said that just because the deal was still open....

[MONOLITHICIDE]

FallOut 4?

[4logpc]

Howard said their new game isnt coming for awhile. Including the reveal.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

@4logpc
shit, thanks for ruining my life

[Muffins1223]

Wow that sucks...i was hoping for a fallout in 2015.

[WeAreLegion]

If it is, I'll be pissed. It's already assumed that DOOM 4 will be on PC/PS4/XBO. Don't hype us up for a game that was already going to be multi-plat.

[LAWSON72]

I dont understand this tactic, how are you supposed to introduce players to your new game when the demo is exclusive to preorders. Maybe it is early access?
I guess it is better than having stupid bonus content

[sAVAge_bEaST]

most like;y an early access,,.. they always are. (by like 3 days)

[Palitera]

Or they're scared with people don't giving a shift about their generic pretty shooter (New Order).

[sorane]

"The genre coalesced with 1992's Wolfenstein 3D, which has been credited with creating the genre proper and the basic archetype upon which subsequent titles were based."

Not sure how you can be generic when you're the original. In fact Wolfenstein is the reason other fps games are called generic.

[Palitera]

So this is not the first Wolfenstein? Mindblown! /irony

Have you ever heard about Catacomb 3D?

Anyway, being the so called first template of the FPS genre is an excuse to completely avoid evolution? It seems to do what FPSs are doing for two decades and absolutely nothing more.

"The problems with it... well, they seem like problems that a lot of games share. It basically looks – from this very brief slice of the game – like a lack of imagination. "

"At the end of the day, Wolfenstein: The New Order looks like it will be yet another shooter on the pile of FPSes that we have gotten in gaming lately. The nostalgia factor may garner a large audience for this title, but I failed to see anything about it during both my hands off and hands on previews that would set it above the rest. That’s not to say that Wolfenstein will be a bad game. It’s just treading on the ground of ‘first person generic’ and adding Nazis back in the mix."

"Perhaps I'm faulting The New Order too much, as I was hoping it'd offer something more unique over just yet another tried-and-true FPS. "

[Kleptic]

^it hardly works like that...

just because a game 'franchise' introduces a genre to the market; doesn't automatically make every game in said franchise a masterpiece of innovation...The last wolfenstein was 100% forgettable...

Ironically, though...in my opinion return to castle wolfenstein was the last great title iD released...and that was in 2001...and its innovation at the time was WWII-era class based multiplayer, which ushered in medal of honor and call of duty soon after...

and Doom fell victim to its own weight just the same...the originals invented deathmatch...Doom 3 was a crappy attempt at action survival horror with laughably bad mechanics...and completely threw out ALL aspects of the originals that made them so great...

so just because they are pedigree franchises...doesn't mean anything by today's standards...new order doesn't look unique in any way whatsoever...its just another shooter with nazi's...and robots...or something...

[NarooN]

I love how people always cry about "innovation", as if it's something that's even easy to do, or possible. What else can be done with FPS, or many other genres, that hasn't been done before?

Anyway, it's also funny to me how the same people who cry about innovation are the ones who buy CoD every year, and give it 9's and 10's (see: almost every reviewer ever.)

Wolfenstein is Wolfenstein is Wolfenstein, if you expect some sort of mind-blowing revolution, go back to your dreams.

[sorane]

It's a beta not a demo. The only thing it's meant to introduce to players is the joy of bug testing and reporting.

[LAWSON72]

Not really, sure that is part of a beta but they let you try out the game and see what you think.

[HaMM4R]

How else do you suggest people test for bugs?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I dunno, but I hope there are other ways to get in, because I'm not buying Wolfenstein.

[Hellsvacancy]

Sweeeet, it's been really quite for Doom 4 news

[Mikefizzled]

A little nervous about being a grammar Nazi in the comments of an article about Wolfenstein, just incase BJ is hiding out here.

Quiet*

Much better now.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I would be nervous about any kind of Nazi in a Wolfenstein article.

[KillerPwned]

I was gonna get this regardless but now I will preorder ASAP.

[MWH]

with Carmack out, I wonder how will this impact the quality of the game. to be honest, I believe John Romero had a greater impact then Carmack in Id Software and since the time he left their games didn't succeed as much.

Carmack might have been the brain behind the game, but Romero was its soul.

ah, it's a time long gone now. no need to go back.

I hope DOOM 4 preserve the timeless legacy of one of the greatest games ever made.

[Kleptic]

Romero made them fun to play, Carmack made them look and perform perfectly...

just look at Doom 3 as a primary example of that...it didn't have romero...it looked great, performed perfectly (on powerful hardware, anyway)...and was NOT fun to play...at all...in fact it was terrible on nearly every level...

so to say i'm worried about doom 4 is an understatement...hopefully the developers responsible for it actually have played the originals...we're getting to the point where some developers' first FPS was halo...and that is very much a bad thing for the genre...

[MWH]

well said.

[WonderboyIII]

I tried o play Doom 3 around 4 times and I left it after an hour. This sums it up.

[NarooN]

Hardly any of the original id crew are even at id anymore, and Carmack was pretty much the last of that group for many years, and he left last year.

Basically Carmack was the brains behind the actual coveted engines that all of id's games ran on. He usually coded them single-handedly and he was one of the main reasons those classic id games just *felt* so good to play, even to this day. I still fire up the Quake games and have immense fun with them.

Since Carmack already finished the id Tech 5 engine some time ago, I'm sure Doom 4 will play nicely, so long as the gameplay guys don't mess anything up, which I doubt they will after all this time.

[SpideySpeakz]

I'm just glad Doom4 actually exist. But I don't care too much about this pre-order thing. It maybe a year from when the BETA goes live. I need to know a date of the beta before hand.

[Hellsvacancy]

Me to, i'm a big Doom fan

Still not interested in Wolfenstein, doubt i'll even rent it

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Doom 4 codes is only reason I'm buying new order !

[CYBERHATER]

I sure hope that Doom 4 follows the Brutal Doom format.

[Kleptic]

yeah brutal doom is great...and Doom GLES on android/ios isn't half bad either (although i don't prefer the added effects, i just it on 'original', but the controls work well)...already been through doom II on my android phone a couple of times...looks and plays great, nearly as much fun as on PC...

[FlyingFoxy]

Doom 4? Interesting.. i always thought Doom 4 would follow closely with HL3, like HL2 & Doom 3.

Hmm.. may have to upgrade my graphics card after all.. was originally waiting for Source 2 & UE4 engine games.

Hopefully Doom 4 is more like the originals rather than 3 though..

[FlyingFoxy]

^^ Plus if it's got Co-op through the whole game, and good multiplayer modes i can't see how it could fail.

I think this newer game will be more like the originals though, ID said themselves that they were planning to go back to the style of Quake 1 for the next Quake as well.. so maybe it will be a good thing.

[solidt12]

I didn't even know there was a Doom 4 in development. I'm Excited.

[curtis92]

I'm ready for some more Doom. After... 10 years HOLY GOD IM OLD

[o-Sunny-o]

I loved Doom 3 I used to get scared playing it. I have to get Wolfenstein. I use to like Wolfenstein on Xbox original. ^~^ Ya Hor! lol

[jay2]

Guys, it's a PS game, it's Crash not DOOM next months PS4. Why a PS mag had what started on PC/SMES as an exclusive?